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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Sippin my tea on March 17, 2009, 01:41:42 PM

Title: Electrolysis
Post by: Sippin my tea on March 17, 2009, 01:41:42 PM
Right now laser hair removal seems way out of my budget. I've read that it'll cost well over $1000 just to do the face alone. That said, does anyone here have any knowledge about personal electrolyzers? I'm sure that there are those that you can buy that work, but I've seen electrolysis kits for even under $100 that claim permanent hair removal. Does anyone have a particular brand/machine that a starving student might be able to afford?

Here's some of the stuff I ran into after a quick search on eBay (which I'm doubting is the best site to go to for this, anyway)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vector-Hair-Removal-Electrolysis-Epilator-Remover-BrNEW_W0QQitemZ270327089592QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item270327089592&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vector-Hair-Removal-Electrolysis-Epilator-Remover-BrNEW_W0QQitemZ270327089592QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item270327089592&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205)|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A2|240%3A1308

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Verseo-Electrolysis-ePen-Permanent-Hair-Removal-Kit_W0QQitemZ200310845959QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item200310845959&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205 (http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Verseo-Electrolysis-ePen-Permanent-Hair-Removal-Kit_W0QQitemZ200310845959QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item200310845959&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205)|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A2|240%3A1318

http://cgi.ebay.com/Clareblend-Ultrablend-Professional-Electrolysis-Machine_W0QQitemZ360139568909QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item360139568909&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Clareblend-Ultrablend-Professional-Electrolysis-Machine_W0QQitemZ360139568909QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item360139568909&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205)|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A2|240%3A1318

The last option seems the most viable because of the price and it seems to be less consumer-oriented, but I don't want to fork over $1000 dollars for something that could work for less. Thank you!
Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: iminadaze on March 17, 2009, 07:22:15 PM
Out of the three you listed the ultrablend would work the best IMO, but you have to
consider ease of use, I have a cheap electrolysis gadget, and it works. but getting the
tip in the follicle is difficult to say the least, and is very, very time consuming.

The best machine out there is going to take an extra long time to clear any hair if the
right person is not doing the job, and the right person in this case is someone who has
done the procedure many times. Trust me, my unit was only $50 and is now sitting in a box
likely never to be used again, that would be a real bummer if the unit cost $1000

I was fortunate to have my father loan me the money to start laser on my face...$3500
for six sessions and a two year guarantee that starts after the last session.
I start in Apr...I am so excited!

Just my opinion but if I could spend the $1000 I would be getting the Tria laser, cuz it
is much more consumer friendly and less likely to damage your skin with proper use.

Good Luck

 
Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: vanna on March 17, 2009, 07:37:19 PM
i was under an impression that needless electrolysis is ineffective and not genuine method for permanent hair removal.

It isnt possible to generate an amount of energy needed to create the chemical change using any tweezer methods as the hair is not good at conductivity although you may have some limited success with few hairs and those that have, modify their kits to work like real galv or blend methods.

save your money for real electroysis or laser / electroysis followup
Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: sd on March 17, 2009, 07:43:52 PM
For electro to work, as Ms Delgado mentioned it needs to have the needle inserted.

Also, do NOT try and do this yourself. it is very easy to damage your skin with electrolysis. If you were talking about your legs, where you could experiment here and there without too much damage, fine, but if you mess up on your face, you will be looking at a scarred face for many years.

Do the face the right way, if you want to play in other areas, go for it.
Oh and laser can scar as well, which is why many home ones do not work, they are underpowered to prevent damage to your skin.
Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: Janet_Girl on March 17, 2009, 08:34:03 PM
Home Electrolysis is not effective.  A properly trained and certified tech is the only way to go.

Or Laser.

Janet

Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: Purple Pimp on March 17, 2009, 10:40:47 PM
Check out http://www.hairtell.com/ (http://www.hairtell.com/) , http://www.hairfacts.com/ (http://www.hairfacts.com/) , and their related forums.  They do a good job reviewing hair removal products and their efficacy.

The following page features a general warning re: hair removal
devices on ebay: http://www.hairfacts.com/distributors/ebay.html (http://www.hairfacts.com/distributors/ebay.html)

Lia
Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: Alyssa M. on March 17, 2009, 10:58:39 PM
Quote from: Nicole_M on March 17, 2009, 07:22:15 PM$3500 for six sessions and a two year guarantee that starts after the last session.

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

$500+ per session?  :o

I really hope that's a typo! Things are generally cheaper here but ... wow! I'm paying less than 1/4 of that!
Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: Tristan on March 18, 2009, 01:08:09 PM
Quote from: Sippin my tea on March 17, 2009, 01:41:42 PM
Right now laser hair removal seems way out of my budget. I've read that it'll cost well over $1000 just to do the face alone. That said, does anyone here have any knowledge about personal electrolyzers? I'm sure that there are those that you can buy that work, but I've seen electrolysis kits for even under $100 that claim permanent hair removal. Does anyone have a particular brand/machine that a starving student might be able to afford?

Here's some of the stuff I ran into after a quick search on eBay (which I'm doubting is the best site to go to for this, anyway)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vector-Hair-Removal-Electrolysis-Epilator-Remover-BrNEW_W0QQitemZ270327089592QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item270327089592&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vector-Hair-Removal-Electrolysis-Epilator-Remover-BrNEW_W0QQitemZ270327089592QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item270327089592&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205)|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A2|240%3A1308

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Verseo-Electrolysis-ePen-Permanent-Hair-Removal-Kit_W0QQitemZ200310845959QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item200310845959&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205 (http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Verseo-Electrolysis-ePen-Permanent-Hair-Removal-Kit_W0QQitemZ200310845959QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item200310845959&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205)|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A2|240%3A1318

http://cgi.ebay.com/Clareblend-Ultrablend-Professional-Electrolysis-Machine_W0QQitemZ360139568909QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item360139568909&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Clareblend-Ultrablend-Professional-Electrolysis-Machine_W0QQitemZ360139568909QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item360139568909&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205)|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A2|240%3A1318

The last option seems the most viable because of the price and it seems to be less consumer-oriented, but I don't want to fork over $1000 dollars for something that could work for less. Thank you!

What message me with the state you live in and ill see if I can help you find a center to do it for you. My Electrolysis  sessions are only $15 a session and I go every 2 ta 3 weeks. No more than 30 bucks a month is not bad. Yeah doing it yourself since it has a needle in it is really hard.
Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: Ms.Behavin on March 18, 2009, 10:39:38 PM
Being a fun loving girl I did both laser and electro.  I did not do the laser plan but talked to the laser place to do the whole face for 150-$200 a session (It's only about 20 minutes a session anyway).  I had to do both as being more mature ( read older then dirt) I was about 50 percent grey.  All told I spent about $1000 on laser and so far about $3000 on electro and still have the rest of the year to go (That will be three years of electro BTW).  Electro where I live runs about $65 an hour for blend.  I get about 4 hours a month done.

Beni
Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: Sippin my tea on March 18, 2009, 11:32:22 PM
Wow, I've gotten so many helpful responses! It looks like a collective nay-say for doing electrolysis at home, but I was guessing it wasn't the best idea.

Nicole, you get to start in April? That's awesome! I'm starting hormones in April (cross my fingers), so that'll be my special gift to me ^-^. As for paying for electrolysis, there isn't really a rush. I mean, I'm not very hairy at all, but  I can't cut any fiscal corners at the moment. I'm not getting any financial support from my family. It's fine though. At least I can say I did it myself, so I guess that kinda counts for something.

Gotcha, Ms. Delgado!

Leslie, since I haven't started hormones yet, I'm not really sure where I'll need electrolysis. My face is the only place I'm sure I'll need to get done, so I guess I can't take any chances with that.

I trust you, Janet. From what I can tell, you know what you're talking about.

Lia, I checked that site and it listed eBay as one of the big 'no's' on where to to check this stuff out at, haha. It was a helpful resource, though.

I'm hoping I can pull off a deal like that, Alyssa! Where do you get yours done? And how many sessions would it take for the face?

Tristan, you're only spending $15 a session? That sounds unbelievable! I live in Northern California, and I doubt I can pull off finding a place at that price. If you could though...just wow.

Beni, you do NOT look very old at all!! Anyway, how much did it cost you for the face alone?

Again, thank you for all of your responses, everyone!
Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: Alyssa M. on March 19, 2009, 12:09:41 AM
California probably has thriving competition in this area. I found my place by looking at the susans.org resources, the phone book, and the Googles. You can start here: https://www.susans.org/Health/Electrolysis/USA/California/, (https://www.susans.org/Health/Electrolysis/USA/California/,) or just use google. At your age it shouldn't be a big deal. :)
Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: sd on March 19, 2009, 12:50:19 AM
Quote from: Sippin my tea on March 18, 2009, 11:32:22 PM
Leslie, since I haven't started hormones yet, I'm not really sure where I'll need electrolysis. My face is the only place I'm sure I'll need to get done, so I guess I can't take any chances with that.
Hold off on laser and electro if you have little as is, if you get on hormones soon enough you may not need it, or not much.
Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: daisybelle on March 19, 2009, 01:56:06 PM
Quote from: Alyssa M. on March 19, 2009, 12:09:41 AM
California probably has thriving competition in this area. I found my place by looking at the susans.org resources, the phone book, and the Googles. You can start here: https://www.susans.org/Health/Electrolysis/USA/California/, (https://www.susans.org/Health/Electrolysis/USA/California/,) or just use google. At your age it shouldn't be a big deal. :)

Texas has none in the Susan's listing...
:icon_cry2: :icon_burn: :eusa_wall: :icon_censored:  :icon_boxing:  Okay so I am emotional - what a girl to do?

Daisy
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Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: Ms.Behavin on March 19, 2009, 09:54:15 PM
Well It will be about $4500-$5000  on laser and electro for my face once it's done later this year. I had very dense facial hair.  Luckly that was the only place that needed to be worked on hair wise.  Though it was just a bit each month so could handle it as a monthly expense.

As to looks, well, HRT has been very very nice to me. 

Beni

Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: angel on March 25, 2009, 10:52:33 AM
dont waste yer money hon! I did & it was a total waste!
Saved up for LHR & after 2 years ( & a lot of £££££) I am body hair free. I never have to shave now & I also had my chest, pubes & armpits done.

Angel xx
Title: Re: Electrolysis
Post by: gween on March 26, 2009, 08:10:38 PM
i pay by the treatment  i pay 130 dollars  per treatment that upper face and lower neck but i have had 13 treatments im almost there maybe you can call the hospital around you and see if they have a dermatologist that does laser. i tried elctro that just hurt to much i like laser


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