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Title: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: NicholeW. on March 20, 2009, 10:36:13 AM
10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
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Recently, the good people at AskMen.com revealed their list of the "Top Ten Things Men Shouldn't Do In Public," which included definite no-no's like picking their noses and peeing conspicuously, and debatable no-no's like crying (Come on, what if his dog just died? What if he just watched The Notebook for the first time?). Interestingly, they said proposing to your girlfriend on a subway was a "bold" public move—something that really ought to top the list of forbidden public acts, if you ask me (I mean seriously, a subway? Is there a danker, drearier place on Earth to ask a woman to spend the rest of your life with you?).

Conversation starter anyone? :) Be nice, please.

Nichole

Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: imaz on March 20, 2009, 10:45:16 AM
Not guilty on No's 1, 2 and 4! ;D
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: am529 on March 20, 2009, 11:10:01 AM
I was going to post that, but you beat me to it.
I'm not guilty of any of those.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: imaz on March 20, 2009, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: am529 on March 20, 2009, 11:10:01 AM
I was going to post that, but you beat me to it.
I'm not guilty of any of those.

None?

You have to be kidding! ;D
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: am529 on March 20, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
Quote from: imaz on March 20, 2009, 11:15:19 AM
None?

You have to be kidding! ;D
ok, well maybe number 5.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Sandy on March 20, 2009, 11:41:08 AM
I am guilty of number 1.

I put my foundation on before I leave home, but I put my mascara and lipstick on when I get on the train.  Trust me there is no more dangerous thing to your eyes than sticking a mascara brush near them on a moving train!  It takes some co-ordination, but it can be done.

But I really do need to shave *seconds* off my ritual in the morning.  Ten more minutes in the sack means an awful lot to me so there is not a wasted move when I get up and get out.

But the others, no.  I really don't appreciate sitting there minding my own business and someone comes in chatting on her cell!  I feel embarrassed to flush (I do though).  The person talking usually have no such embarrassment and continues chatting right through whatever bodily function (and noises) they have to do (YUCK!)

And my midriff has it's own zip code and will remain tastefully hidden, thank you very much!

-Sandy
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: sd on March 20, 2009, 01:58:08 PM
Can someone explain why #3 is such a no-no? Okay, short, short skirt, yeah, but if it falls well below the knee, I fail to see an issue. In between would be a gray area I guess.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Janet_Girl on March 20, 2009, 02:01:56 PM
1. Apply Full Make-Up.  Not unless I can take over an entire table. :D

2. Adjust Your Skimpy Underwear.  That is what the rest room is for.

3. Sit Cross-Legged While Wearing a Skirt.   Why not?  Show off the legs

4. Show Off Your Midriff.  Not with my tummy

5. Talk on Your Phone in a Public Bathroom or Dressing Room.  SICK

6. Ask Your Partner or Spouse If They Love You.  Why not?  if they do, do they not wish to tell every one?

7. Tweeze Errant Hairs or Pop a Pimple. See 5

8. Criticize Your Partner or Spouse.  Not unless you want to fight in public.

9. Adjust the Girls.  See 2

10. Pee All Over the Toilet Seat.  How is that possile unless you hover?  And guys are guliy of this and the toilet seat issue.  :laugh:

Janet

Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: NicholeW. on March 20, 2009, 02:04:46 PM
I think the notion being that "a lady never shows a lot of thigh," Leslie. Just a guess. Although that's the one I am prolly "guilty" of more than any. I think my legs are prolly my best asset. :)

Now sitting with legs wide spread in a skirt seems to me much, much, much less appropriate than sitting with them crossed. But yes, I can see where sitting with my legs together at the knees would prolly be best of all.

Nichole

O, the "pop a pimple" one. EWWWWWW!! Why would anyone even think about it? Go to a restroom and use a kleenex or TP if you're gonna go out with poppable pimples! YECH!
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Hazumu on March 20, 2009, 02:44:37 PM
On skirts -- what if the skirt is down near the ankles?  I can understand the above-the-knee skirts and leg-crossing, but what if the knees remain covered?

Or is this going to become a "dumb rule"?

Karen
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: mickie88 on March 20, 2009, 03:39:30 PM
1. Apply Full Make-Up.  do it at home, the bathroom or not at all

2. Adjust Your Skimpy Underwear.  yes, bathroom, but coverage is definitely important to me and so is looking like a lady, picking my panties out of somewhere in the middle of a grocery store is just nasty not to mention unsanitary!!

3. Sit Cross-Legged While Wearing a Skirt.   i think they mean sit cross-legged like a MAN!! Brittiney and ur daughter are VERY fond of doing this, Britt has thick legs, so i understand, but our daughter just copies and everyone sees MORE than they need to of a 7 year old.

4. Show Off Your Midriff.  Not with my tummy-ditto!!

5. Talk on Your Phone in a Public Bathroom or Dressing Room.  SICK--totally!!

6. Ask Your Partner or Spouse If They Love You.  Why not?  if they do, do they not wish to tell every one?

7. Tweeze Errant Hairs or Pop a Pimple. See 5--ditto

8. Criticize Your Partner or Spouse.  Not unless you want to fight in public-i did this almost daily, trust me they retaliate and it's twice as bad!!!

9. Adjust the Girls.  See 2, or seek a somewhat secluded place, ur probably turning on some sick perverted man standing there playing with the girls!!! every where is not a girls gone wild video...lol

10. Pee All Over the Toilet Seat.  How is that possile unless you hover?  And guys are guilty of this and the toilet seat issue.  :laugh: yeah i seriously don't see me possibly doing this...lol
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Suzy on March 20, 2009, 04:49:23 PM
1. Apply Full Make-Up.    Well we who live in the area of little to no public transportation sometimes do this while driving down the highway.  It is not at all uncommon to look around in a line of traffic and be able to see 4 or 5 makeup brushes, mascara wands, of lipsticks working their magic.  Dangerous?  you bet!  Disgusting?  Nah!

3. Sit Cross-Legged While Wearing a Skirt.   This one I do not understand.  It is the norm of girls around here.

5. Talk on Your Phone in a Public Bathroom or Dressing Room.   Never!  My voice is pretty good, but the last thing I would want is for anyone to ever hear me and question me while I am in the rest room or the dressing room.

10. Pee All Over the Toilet Seat.   Does this even need to be said?  ewwwwww!   Just remember:  Aim before you shoot, or Sit before you poot, and this would not be an issue for either gender.

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Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Sandy on March 20, 2009, 05:40:44 PM
Quote from: Kristi on March 20, 2009, 04:49:23 PM

3. Sit Cross-Legged While Wearing a Skirt.   This one I do not understand.  It is the norm of girls around here.

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Other than looking unladylike in a short skirt, the only other reason for not crossing your legs is that it is mildly unhealthy as it can block blood flow.

Though I do remember one time, long ago, when I heard a mother correcting her daughter telling her that "Ladies always have both feet flat on the floor!"

Whatever...

I sit so that I am comfortable, modest, and have good posture.  If crossing my legs is an option I go for it.

-Sandy
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: tinkerbell on March 20, 2009, 06:19:46 PM
To me, you are NOT a lady if you: 

* Swear like a drunken sailor.
* Drink heavily.
* Bend your knees when walking in heels.
* Are middle-aged but wear the attire of a teenage girl.
* Constantly touch your face or have your hair all over your face!
* Don't stand up straight or stand up with your legs apart!
* Finish eating your food before all the men who are sharing the same table with you.
* Are that woman who appears at Walmart at five o'clock in the afternoon wearing
"flip-flops", with five children, dirty clothes, her hair unbrushed, running around and shouting at her kids from the rooftops! 

::)  :P 


tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Michelle. on March 20, 2009, 07:28:22 PM
3. Sit Cross-Legged While Wearing a Skirt.

I, too, think this does refer to the "male way."

I'm under the impression that a womans hips being wider than a mans is what allows her to more easily sit with her legs crossed and the top ankle behind the other.

Narrower hips is what makes it easier for guys to cross their legs with the foot resting on the knee.

Funny thing is I can very easily do the female leg cross with my right side but not so easily with my left side.

All the other stuff seems like common sense.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Sophie90 on March 20, 2009, 08:39:49 PM
I've done 3.

The skirt cross-legged thing, the underwear adjustment (it wasn't skimpy though :p) and the adjustment of the, erm, "girls".

Sorry society, but I have to be comfortable!
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: SarahFaceDoom on March 20, 2009, 11:58:21 PM
I don't get the legs crossed thing.  Surely crossing your legs is more modest.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Genevieve Swann on March 21, 2009, 04:56:57 AM
Sitting with crossed legs is better than legs spread wide apart. Putting on makeup takes me too long to do it in public. I guess showing your naval depends on how pretty it is. The most disgusting thing I've seen is overwieght women with pants that show the butt crack from behind. What about mothers who sometimes breast feed in public? In some countries it is not uncommon.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: karenstar on March 21, 2009, 03:58:40 PM
I would have to disagree with "don't cross legs" as others have already mentioned the reasons like being modest and comfortable. Seems open legs in a short dress perhaps is what men want but not for me.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: placeholdername on March 21, 2009, 04:18:53 PM
Quote from: michellesofl on March 20, 2009, 07:28:22 PM
3. Sit Cross-Legged While Wearing a Skirt.

I, too, think this does refer to the "male way."

I'm under the impression that a womans hips being wider than a mans is what allows her to more easily sit with her legs crossed and the top ankle behind the other.

Narrower hips is what makes it easier for guys to cross their legs with the foot resting on the knee.

Funny thing is I can very easily do the female leg cross with my right side but not so easily with my left side.

All the other stuff seems like common sense.

Maybe I'm just weird-boned but I've always been able to do the 'female way' from either side and I find the 'male way' uncomfortable no matter what.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: KarenLyn on March 21, 2009, 11:32:57 PM
Quote from: Genevieve Swann on March 21, 2009, 04:56:57 AM
Sitting with crossed legs is better than legs spread wide apart. Putting on makeup takes me too long to do it in public. I guess showing your naval depends on how pretty it is. The most disgusting thing I've seen is overwieght women with pants that show the butt crack from behind. What about mothers who sometimes breast feed in public? In some countries it is not uncommon.

And what's wrong with breast feeding in public? A baby needs to eat too.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Sandy on March 22, 2009, 10:29:43 AM
Quote from: KarenLyn on March 21, 2009, 11:32:57 PM
And what's wrong with breast feeding in public? A baby needs to eat too.
I agree.  That's what breasts are for.

As long as it is done discreetly and with a minimum of fanfare I really have no problem with it.

-Sandy
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Hazumu on March 22, 2009, 11:19:12 AM
Tink :icon_chick: said:

* Swear like a drunken sailor.

I'm a former Marine.  I don't use what I learned in normal daily conversation.  But under extraordinary situations, the phrases I learned constitute a 'tactical nuclear' arsenal (with great power comes great responsibility.)

* Drink heavily.

"Driving the porcelain bus", "Making a sidewalk pizza", et.al, are only fun the first few times.  Glad I got that over early in my 'tweens (late teens/early twenties.)

* Are middle-aged but wear the attire of a teenage girl.

Lapses are understandable (but not 'acceptable') for those who are in the throes of their second puberty

* Finish eating your food before all the men who are sharing the same table with you.

Guilty as charged...  It's very hard to unlearn a habit reinforced by 20 years of military service.  Any tips on how to slow down?

My $0.43 ($0.02 in 1913)

=K
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Stealthgrrl on March 22, 2009, 01:34:29 PM
#3 is just stupid unless you're sitting like a linebacker.

And the bare midriffs aren't classy? Well honey, we aren't all on our way to the opera. No, it isn't classy, but if you've got the body for it, there's a place for it. Not all of us are Julia Sugarbaker. At least not all the time.  :P
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: tinkerbell on March 22, 2009, 06:08:10 PM
Quote from: Karen on March 22, 2009, 11:19:12 AM
Tink :icon_chick: said:

* Finish eating your food before all the men who are sharing the same table with you.

Guilty as charged...  It's very hard to unlearn a habit reinforced by 20 years of military service.  Any tips on how to slow down?

Someone dear to me once told me that men don't savor their food because their main objective is to get full and not actually taste what they eat.  She went on to say that "the relationship between food and a woman should be like foreplay, slow, sweet, delicate.  A woman should enjoy every bite, every taste and every move."  ;)

My humble advice would be to observe other women in social situations.  During dinner, going at the same pace with other women (talking, drinking, cutting your food, taking your time, telling a joke, whatever) is the best advice.  There will always be someone (usually a man) who finishes his food first, but you don't want to be that someone!   ;D


tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Sophie90 on March 22, 2009, 06:38:57 PM
Quote from: Tink on March 22, 2009, 06:08:10 PM
Someone dear to me once told me that men don't savor their food because their main objective is to get full and not actually taste what they eat.  She went on to say that "the relationship between food and a woman should be like foreplay, slow, sweet, delicate.  A woman should enjoy every bite, every taste and every move."  ;)

My humble advice would be to observe other women in social situations.  During dinner, going at the same pace with other women (talking, drinking, cutting your food, taking your time, telling a joke, whatever) is the best advice.  There will always be someone (usually a man) who finishes his food first, but you don't want to be that someone!   ;D


tink :icon_chick:

Oh lord I must be a man... once I start eating, I'm eating until it's all gone.

No pauses. No drinking. No speaking, unless I am spoken to... as that would just be rude.

I don't eat all that fast though... if that helps lol?
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Stealthgrrl on March 22, 2009, 06:54:05 PM
All my life I've been famously last to finish a meal. Once I was taken to a Japanese restaurant where they cook the food in front of you and the meal is served in courses. I, naturally, couldn't keep up and felt unpleasantly pressured to eat faster. I never went back.

Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: SarahFaceDoom on March 23, 2009, 04:20:36 AM
The speed with which I finish eating is proportional to the company I have for the meal :P
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Sephirah on March 23, 2009, 04:32:26 AM
Hmm... well, to add to that, maybe it's not a super hot idea to sit down to portions that you need climbing gear, oxygen equipment and a team of Sherpas to scale.

A.K.A Mount Everoast.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Stealthgrrl on March 23, 2009, 06:28:39 AM
Quote from: Leiandra on March 23, 2009, 04:32:26 AM
Hmm... well, to add to that, maybe it's not a super hot idea to sit down to portions that you need climbing gear, oxygen equipment and a team of Sherpas to scale.

A.K.A Mount Everoast.

Oh god, i am sooo busted. I have always had the appetite of a longshoreman, and that didn't change one bit. it embarasses me. I purposely order less, when I am out with friends, than I would really like to have. I eat like a fricking horse, it's horrible.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: tekla on March 23, 2009, 11:18:55 AM
maybe it's not a super hot idea to sit down to portions that you need climbing gear, oxygen equipment and a team of Sherpas to scale
The old rule of thumb was: Never eat anything bigger than your head.

I have always had the appetite of a longshoreman
Oh, Bud for breakfast, Bud for lunch, and for dinner, more Bud?
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: NicholeW. on March 23, 2009, 05:47:04 PM
Quote from: Stealthgrrl on March 22, 2009, 06:54:05 PM
All my life I've been famously last to finish a meal. Once I was taken to a Japanese restaurant where they cook the food in front of you and the meal is served in courses. I, naturally, couldn't keep up and felt unpleasantly pressured to eat faster. I never went back.

Phooey on that. That's why they make doggie-bags/boxes!! So major appetite and slow eater, doubly famous? You should also be famous for taking out stacks of doggie boxes for the fridge!! LOL!!

I'm always the last done and the slowest eater and have been for years. Ian and Cat often need to sit at the table extra minutes for me to finish. Besides, if you eat slowly and chew slowly it's easier to tell when you're sated. The mesages from the tummy keep up with the lock mechanism on your hunger that way.

Tink's advice I find spot-on. But I was doing that long before I was transitioning. My parents used to complain about my slow eating.

Nichole
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: tinkerbell on March 23, 2009, 07:03:31 PM
Quote from: Nichole on March 23, 2009, 05:47:04 PM
Tink's advice I find spot-on. But I was doing that long before I was transitioning. My parents used to complain about my slow eating.

Nichole

I used to eat very slowly when I was a child as well, but that wasn't because I was "ladylike" but because I was a stubborn little bitch who didn't want to eat her veggies.  Mom would be doing the dishes with a mirror in front of her watching me eat.  "EAT, EAT DAMN IT" Actually she didn't say "damn it" but she said other things  ;D, and there I was feeling nauseated with my mouth full and crying my eyes out!


tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: NicholeW. on March 23, 2009, 07:09:02 PM
Quote from: Tink on March 23, 2009, 07:03:31 PM
I used to eat very slowly when I was a child as well, but that wasn't because I was "ladylike" but because I was a stubborn little bitch who didn't want to eat her veggies.  Mom would be doing the dishes with a mirror in front of her watching me eat.  "EAT, EAT DAMN IT" Actually she didn't say "damn it" but she said other things  ;D, and there I was feeling nauseated with my mouth full and crying my eyes out!


tink :icon_chick:

Aw!! baby Nichole :icon_hug: s baby Tink!!

OK, some of mine was that as well especially the couple of times she made tuna hot dish! Yuck, I still hate the odor of hot tuna. Even steaks! :laugh:

Nichole

Oh, and just so everyone's clear, like Tink I was not saying that slow eating was a baby-marker that I was female. I just have always been a slow eater. I think that proves that I'm a slow eater. :laugh:
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: tinkerbell on March 23, 2009, 07:15:46 PM
Her main dish was: Cauliflower croquettes!  :eusa_sick: The funny thing is that I learned to love them and nowadays I can't get enough.  I guess I am getting old!  :P


tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: NicholeW. on March 23, 2009, 07:37:05 PM
Actually those sound goood!! Although I have to admit that Baby Nichole tended to turn her nose up at those sulfery veggies as well: cabbage, broccoli and cauliflower. I hated their smells. Then I learned that contrary to accepted Southern cooking mores of my family you didn't have to boil the darned stuff till it reeked!! :)

That's made a huge difference with all three. :)

Nichole
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Jeneva on March 24, 2009, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: Nichole on March 23, 2009, 07:37:05 PM
Actually those sound goood!! Although I have to admit that Baby Nichole tended to turn her nose up at those sulfery veggies as well: cabbage, broccoli and cauliflower. I hated their smells. Then I learned that contrary to accepted Southern cooking mores of my family you didn't have to boil the darned stuff till it reeked!! :)

That's made a huge difference with all three. :)

Nichole

Yeah, but it seems like everyone in the south thinks not only do they have to be way over cooked into mush, but they also have to be smothered in fake cheese or cream sauce.  I've always wondered why bother fixing it if you have to overwhelm the flavor with something else.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Suzy on March 24, 2009, 09:44:23 AM
Quote from: hiddenflame on March 24, 2009, 09:14:02 AM
Yeah, but it seems like everyone in the south thinks not only do they have to be way over cooked into mush, but they also have to be smothered in fake cheese or cream sauce.  I've always wondered why bother fixing it if you have to overwhelm the flavor with something else.

My favorite way to eat cauliflower is raw.  But my close second is as a substitute for mashed potatoes.  (I can't eat the starches.)   You cook it well and blend with some nonfat sour cream until smooth.  It has a taste like mashed potatoes with a little extra peppery spice.  It is also good to sprinkle a little bit of grated sharp cheddar and chives on top.

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Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Janet_Girl on March 24, 2009, 10:21:40 AM
Little off topic.  But Deep fried and raw.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: SisterGirlfriend on March 24, 2009, 12:39:15 PM
I don't care how young or well-toned you are, no one needs to ever bare their midriff. It isn't 1999 anymore.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Saraloop on March 26, 2009, 09:50:27 PM
It's un-lady like to take out your willy if you have one, since ladies aren't suppose to have any.. mahaha
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Cindy on March 27, 2009, 04:33:52 AM
I agree with who ever said don't show the bum crack, yuk
Or the whale tail. Looks sexy on a supermodel but most of us? (except me ;)).
Swearing loudly.

Being drunk
Fingers up the nose; revolting in any one

Drinking grog faster than your male date, also a bad move! Or good depending where you want to spend the night!


Cindy James
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Genevieve Swann on March 27, 2009, 04:41:41 AM
Showing off the butt cleavage is disgusting. It is now illegal in the state of Maryland. It is considered lewdness and punishable by law.
Title: Re: 10 Things a Lady Should Never Do in Public
Post by: Cindy on March 27, 2009, 05:28:43 AM
Ahh
I think that's too far.
Does this apply to males as well?  Every carpet layer, plumber etc would be in goal in SA

Hi Hon
Cindy James