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Community Conversation => Non-binary talk => Topic started by: Kendall on August 29, 2006, 09:10:57 PM

Title: The man in me.
Post by: Kendall on August 29, 2006, 09:10:57 PM
Even though I identify with the femininity with me of about 75%,  what then do I consider the man in me (25%).

Physically (naked) I have about 90% male in me, but I dont consider this at the moment since I am going through transitions and it is changing. Hopefully anatomically will reach a 50% change. Though in my case 30% is more likely.

Communication wise, I think I am very male. I wont ever try to change this part of me. Masculine communication I enjoy more for being direct and short.

Sexually, anatomically the lower will always be male. Performance wise is sort of a mixture of male physique and feminine role.

Clothing wise, although I like heels and flats, to work I use functional male shoes. I love the heels I got , just only around the house lol. The watch I have is male. They are always larger, and has better functions. I have a rolex sized watch and a calculator watch.

Facial hair wise, I dont know if I will ever remove my facial hair totally. Sometimes when I am more masculine, I let myself grow more a gotti or small beard.

My natural hair is thinner, and I go that way most the time. I have worn some wigs, but only do that in pictures and  the times I get into more full female mode (like in some of the pictures I have taken).
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Vanessa V. on August 29, 2006, 09:37:37 PM
I oft-times feel the balance is at 60% female / 40% male here

I cast my male self as very low on the traditionally "masculine" scale, which makes him very bareable, and makes my female self not quite as supressed...

As an intellectual, I'm generally not expected to have rippling muscles or traditional "masculine" forms of "fun" and as a speaker, I engage deeply in the very traditionally "feminine" field of communication....

I generally have alot of girls that are friends, which gets me the best of both worlds, casting me as "cool" with other guys, yet allowing me to enjoy a female presence in my friends circle....

Although I love skirts and other forms of women's clothing, sometimes you just can't match a baggy pair of shorts for comfort....

-Nessa
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Melissa on August 29, 2006, 10:18:30 PM
I feel about 80% feminine and maybe 20% masculine.  Note the use of the words feminine/masculine, rather than male/female though.  Why?  Because I don't feel male at all, just like a somewhat more masculine woman.

Melissa
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Kendall on August 30, 2006, 05:57:19 PM
..Sometimes I will get all my makeup, hair, and sometimes breastforms on all in ultra girl mode , then wear my male clothing that I normal wear. Its very nice thing to try. Sorta helps to mix the male and female.

Like I said in my PM Vanessa, I sooo much agree that baggy shorts are great

two thumbs up here.

Kendra
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: cindianna_jones on August 31, 2006, 03:35:57 AM
The man in me never was
The man on me it was
That thing that reminded me
a state I'd always see
the man I'd never be.

Cindi
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Vanessa V. on August 31, 2006, 04:11:30 AM
I do mixing like that on occassion Kendra....

I'd wear a bra and tank-top on top, then baggy shorts on the bottom....

Something unique about having a bra on.... definitely different than the traditionally male fare...

-Nessa
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: beatrix on September 05, 2006, 08:52:49 PM
The man in me is a scared weakling.  It's something I'm looking for hope and strength from, and unfortunately, there isn't any.  And the medications aren't working yet and work is bad again.

I've analyzed my writings.  I write creatively nearly every day, and I'm pretty sure that my writing style is masculine, which is key to my identity. 

The man in me is bisexual.  When I feel feminine, I have no attraction to those beasts. 

Today, the man in me may as well die, because he ain't going anywhere.  Tomorrow may be a better day.  Tomorrow I get to talk with my therapist; tomorrow I may have some money in the bank; tomorrow I could get a letter, or a phone call on a new job . . .

Or I could figure out how to live on a grad student's income for a year until I graduate.

The man in me is so goal oriented that I've forgotten the jouney, sometimes . . .

It's good to have balance ... the middle path ...
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Kendall on September 14, 2006, 06:09:49 PM
Hmmm Beatrix,
Not sure what my writing style is. Probably not feminine, maybe more masculine too.

I also have the one focused mind, which is the man in me. Its hard for me to multi task easy.

Kendra
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: seldom on September 15, 2006, 01:35:54 AM
I do such a mix of technical writing it is really hard to tell what my writing style really is. 

I feel weird because the man in me is a tweedy professor or librarian and the woman in me is almost identical.  There is a bit of a feminist tilt to some of my thought paterns, but that has little to do with the way I am, and tell you the truth is nothing unique for somebody who identifies themselves as androgyne. 

I really cannot break it down to percentages, I cannot say anything other then there is nothing overtly feminine about me and I definately not overtly masculine.  In fact when several people have met me, they figure out pretty quickly by the way I act that most of the time I am androgynous and if I am trying to be overly masculine or feminine it is more out of necessity then out of nature. 

I do have my moments which are more masculine and feminine, but more often then not I find myself disconnected from the polarities. 

Tell you the truth I cannot stand the polarity of masculinity.  Largely because machismo is more destructive then constructive.   
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Kendall on September 16, 2006, 06:36:10 AM
The man in me likes action in movies and books. Although I like a little romance, reading romance novels is not my thing. I do like some romance but must be placed in action / adventure type settings. Mainly my genre is scifi and fantasy. I am not really into the teenage girl or women's romance stuff.

Yes didnt think you had much male in you Tink. I think I have seen you mention it in other posts elsewhere that your 100% women. Good way to show the difference between TS and Androgyne though.

Androgyne has some of both gender in them. I started this post to show some major things that are a part of that male in me. I think its important that whatever I feel about my gender that is true should be recognized. Even if it means that I feel like both gender, its important to me that I should recognize both and how both and how they influence each other.

Some others that feel both genders have been responding great recently. Although no two androgynes are the same, just knowing that others feel the two genders within them and accept somethings about them from both genders, I think is an important message for others that feel the same. Just as important I think then the fact that gender doesnt always match birth sex and that gender comes in a variety of mixes.

I like this post. Although I had spent the first year posting about things I had been studying about cosmetology and feminine fashion, it sort of was a stark blunt truthful statement that recognized the male in me that is part of me that swims together with the female in me, which is one and the same.
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Sophie on September 17, 2006, 07:19:57 AM
Wow, it's hard to know what the man or woman in me would be...
Atm for me it's about 55% male 45% female, talk about confusing!
Genetically/physically 100% female btw.

Ah, I think the man in me is very much a gentleman, but can still have fun and be cool.
As for the woman? No one in particular, as far as I can tell.

Bearing in mind the evidence for this is basically how differently I interact/get treated on net forums with different gendered names on different ones... it may be a tad unrelaible. :-\
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: sheila18 on September 20, 2006, 03:36:51 AM
Quote from: wickham_kendra on August 29, 2006, 09:10:57 PM
Communication wise, I think I am very male. I wont ever try to change this part of me. Masculine communication I enjoy more for being direct and short.

Kendra:
I totaly relate.   You know what(by the way this is not advice or trying to change you whatever)    I changed my communications image when I identified with "TRINI" from hte Matrix after that there were a slew of strong female characters or "heroines" that i could visualize and gave the ability to be direct strong, confident and sexy(in a ffemenine way)  Angelina Jolie's Lora Crawfors and Jeniffer Garners Elektra and Sydney Bristow just stand out so tall for me and is easy for me to emulate/model them in my mind and give expression.  When am out in Sheila mode

I totally agree with you about the guy in me.  For me is a very strong energy That can't be killed nor destroyed, I am gratefully and blessedly stuck with both Al and Sheila
  Oh well :)
love no matter what, sheila18


  Is there any heroine for you?
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Shana A on September 20, 2006, 03:50:38 PM
I can't break it down into percentages. I don't feel male at all, female is closer but doesn't adequately describe it either. I mostly tend to feel myself to be "other", a place on the gender continuum that doesn't have words in this language.

Zythyra
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Kendall on September 21, 2006, 07:17:44 AM
Sheila18
I like the character from Robotech: New Generation named Lancer/Yellow Dancer. That was sort of the first character in entertainment that I sort of felt any connection to gender wise, sort of.

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As for women that excude masculine traits at times, yes who doesnt love:

Trinity and Lora Croft
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As posted in sexuality forum, I am attracted to masculine women of various forms/transitions. I am more attracted to those two rather than wanting to be them. Though parts of them I would like.
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: sheila18 on September 22, 2006, 12:51:20 AM
kendra:
yes totally agree, am really sorry that i did not get a chace to enjoy yellow dancer, i will become acquainted with it thanks for the tip, i love positive and corageous reinforcement.
i also like kagero from ninja scroll, girl every time i see her i can't decide to have her or be her  :D aahhh
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and of course my favorite the very early issues of Shi
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sweet life   kendra thanks for the pics you made my day sweetheart  ;)
love no matter what girls, sheila18

the greatest thing you'll ever learn is to love and to be loved in return- nature boy
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Kendall on September 22, 2006, 07:45:45 AM
I also love Jatarri aka Nikki (and her lesbian relationship to Ryntha) from Animal Mystic.  I think I identify with Ryntha more, and am attracted to Jatarri.

Ryntha is sort of part animal, and for some reason seems like very much me. Where as Jatarri is the aggressor and masculine type personality, though. Ryntha with her tail and horns sort of reminds me though of having parts of male anatomy, mixed with female anatomy.

Ryntha (the one under the white lion)
Ryntha is Jatarri's lover. A very submissive personality character.
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Jatarri
Is on the left in the pic above. She is the main character in the comic series. Klor, the horse man next to her is her friend that fights with her. The white lion is her mount.

I really liked this comic series. Its one of the few comic series I ever bought.

Yes I also bought a best of art for shi also. Love her style.
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: veronica06 on September 22, 2006, 08:30:26 AM
hmm?  the man..in me?
ok.I'll bite.
the man..in me..BEING male for 50 plus years..
remember conan the barbarian?
that is a part of me...in my inner core. the man in me loves to fight and cause hate and discontent.
the man in me..loves bigger gals...not skinny minnies.
the man in me,..is part of a lot of different things.
mr spock..cold hard logic.
dean martin...a little booze in me and I get all roamantic and start in with "welcome to my world"
john wayne.......definitely the duke. not taking any backlip off no one and man enough to stand up to anyone anywhere.

oh....man oh man.
have "I" got enough man in me.
I have had-to....to survive on the street like I did growing up.
--------
but there is the half of me I have yearned for.
my inner woman.
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: sheila18 on September 22, 2006, 10:58:29 AM
kendra:
wow she looks awesome, also i see a resemblance with you, facial bone structure,  I am on my way to work for the long stretch of 32 hr weekend.
thanks for the pics kendra, i'll pick it up when i get back monday.

Veronica:
i love to listen to honest conversations, and it takes courage and mental balace.  For so many years I lived a deluded life of obsesion trying to be accepted as a woman that it twisted my mind, by twisting my perceptions. Clear thinking and honesty is so refreshing now, thanks veronica.  Also am 50 and change. Also had to develop masculine skils to survive, however in raising a daughter  i learned that women are tougher than men and still very femenine and they can kick booty if they choose to, i wish i could have learned that early in life and not this late, am not complaning i have no regrets.
  Am trying to say that I identify with your post, loving women, fights and all those things considered masculine that now i see they are neither because i see women doing the same, but you and i grew in an era where "women " meant the Stepford Wife type and men meant Charles Bronson for me and anything in between was just "undesirable" or "looser"

  that is why i feel blessed to have both aspects ...
by the way once i had the skinnier taller gals the ones that i could embrace their souls when i put my arms around ...was hard to forget... boy or girl mode i love women, am bi but defenitely preffer and appreciate the soft fickle race
sheila18
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Kendall on September 22, 2006, 06:04:18 PM
I like what you say Veronica. Straight to the point.

Ok sheila18, have fun working.

Ken/Kendra
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Vanessa V. on September 24, 2006, 02:28:12 AM
*Returns*

Happy to see more Androgynes here! :D

Yes, I feel happy to have both worlds....

I would think my male side is a fighter, though my female side is no roll over either...

My mind is sort of like the Cold War, two strong powers that would destroy eachother if they ever went to war...

So masculine and feminine come to a compromise.... allow for both sides to live and live well...

Sometimes you just feel the need to roll up your sleeves and knock some heads... :P

As to strong, assertive women that can do just that, Anime is very very good for that kind of stuff....

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-Lust from "Full Metal Alchemist"

A great strong female.... ruthlessly efficient and calculating, yet in the end, just wishes to be a human...

A marvellous tale of power and love....

:D

-Nessa
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: sheila18 on September 25, 2006, 11:06:52 PM
Quote from: Vanessa V. on September 24, 2006, 02:28:12 AM
My mind is sort of like the Cold War, two strong powers that would destroy eachother if they ever went to war...
...
Sometimes you just feel the need to roll up your sleeves and knock some heads... :P (  :D  )

As to strong, assertive women that can do just that, Anime is very very good for that kind of stuff....
a great strong female.... ruthlessly efficient and calculating, yet in the end, just wishes to be a human...
:D
-Nessa

thanks,  oh wow great stuff! am so lucky that you girls are into this subject i always fwlt out side the box because i enjoyed the childish comics, i felt that society totaly was clueles about the richness of mithology and art and historical background ...i could go on and on even though am a beginner at this, there is such a wealth of art out there.

Defenitely is better to share similar interests
thanks girls  ;)
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sheila18
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Kendall on November 05, 2006, 09:39:47 AM
The man in me is how I cook, lol.

Fast, easy, simple

Microwave is my best friend.

Frozen, canned, instant, 1 ingredient or less. 5 min prep time.
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Laurry on November 05, 2006, 03:34:29 PM
Quote from: Kendra on November 05, 2006, 09:39:47 AM
The man in me is how I cook, lol.

Fast, easy, simple

Microwave is my best friend.

Frozen, canned, instant, 1 ingredient or less. 5 min prep time.

I could have written this.  Let me add that what doesn't get cooked in the microwave is generally done on the gas grill.  My gourmet cooking is when I make fried rice, as it takes both the rice cooker and a wok/skillet.

Other "man in me" moments...housecleaning (never have developed that feminine efficiency)...a tendency to collect "junk" and an on-going battle with procrastination (which I'm going to work on one of these days). 

.....Laurie
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Shinya on November 05, 2006, 09:43:40 PM
You know I got to looking and forgot what this thread was after all the anime talk, so this is Shinya. My name sake.

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Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Shana A on November 06, 2006, 08:57:17 AM
I've always loved to cook. I don't own a microwave, and don't buy much in the way of prepared or canned foods, I'd rather make things from scratch.

z
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Kendall on November 06, 2006, 07:17:38 PM
Quote from: LaurieO on November 05, 2006, 03:34:29 PM
I could have written this.  Let me add that what doesn't get cooked in the microwave is generally done on the gas grill.  My gourmet cooking is when I make fried rice, as it takes both the rice cooker and a wok/skillet.

Other "man in me" moments...housecleaning (never have developed that feminine efficiency)...a tendency to collect "junk" and an on-going battle with procrastination (which I'm going to work on one of these days). 

.....Laurie

After cooking 3 straight weeks after katrina on charcoal and grill, grill is my last option lol (still when I smell BBque, I gag). I dont collect "stuff". I have very few CDs, DVDs, Books, and magazines/comics.

Somedays I do procrastinate, but I am pretty good with keeping things straight. Photos on my site show the condition of my house in the backgrounds for proof including my current profile pic (guess you can't see much in it).

Shinya
Nice, I wondered where you got your name from.

Zythyra
Sounds like man cooking isnt your thing lol. Lets go to your place, that means good food.
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Shana A on November 07, 2006, 09:26:08 PM
QuoteI have very few CDs, DVDs, Books, and magazines/comics.

Sounds like man cooking isnt your thing lol. Lets go to your place, that means good food.

It's good food, at least if you like eating veggies  :)

And I have plenty of CDs and books too

z
Title: Re: The man in me.
Post by: Kendall on November 15, 2006, 07:04:50 AM
..Comes out when I am angry.

Hulk Angry.

Likes cool gadgets like computers, robots, high tech gadgets, and amazing machines.

Knows how to set the clock on the VCR.

Doesnt read instructions, until trying has failed to produce the any results. Then the girl in me says "ok...read them".

Is very good at reading maps and finding my way from point A to point B, with limited miss directions.(Found my way from Seattle to Mississippi by myself, and drove into her driveway the first time ever, without stopping or getting lost once).