So i'm moving today. The current tenit was to be out of that apartment by like 5 Yesterday. Adrian got off work at 9 and we drove all the way to the apartment to see if this person had left anything like furniture behind witch we were told she might. We walk in and notice she took the fridge and the stove!! she's moving in with her grandmother why did she take this. NOw we dont have one. ANd dont have any money to purchace one. I'm having major panic attacks because i dont know what to do!!! TO my astonishment when i went into the bathroom i noticed that SHE TOOK THE TOLIOT SEAT!!!!!!!
:( i'm freaking out. I have no idea where to get a fridge and a stove. I'm at a loss I have no idea what to do and i'm panicing big time. *breaths into a paper bag* (Unfortunatly it does say in our tennit agreement that the landlord will not provide us with a fridge or a stove BUT we said we wouldnt sign it unless he could assure us that this aparmtent had one. He said she was leaving it. We relaxed. I'm so stupid)
If it an apartment, is not the owner responsible to get you a fridge and a stove? The toilet seat should also be covered. If they are not ask for a major discount, or six months free rent.
If you have to get your own. Try refurbished appliances, or Sears, Lowe's even Home Depot. Lowe's does have clearance models really cheap.
Janet
Something about the landlord's actions just seem suspicious from the start. Did the appliances belong to the previous tenant or did he provide them for her? If he made her buy her own, I can see her point in taking them with her. For him to make you sign something saying that he wouldn't have to provide them, it sounds to me like he already knew she was taking them and wanted to get out of his responsibility.
I would think that there should be some sort of legal protection that he has to provide you with certain basics that you need--like being able to prepare food. :-\ Is there somewhere you can go to get some free legal advice? Landlords have certain legal requirements they have to meet on behalf of their tenants. He's obviously not doing this and knows it. The paper he had you sign might not even be something he can legally ask you to do. You have rights.
I'm sorry you're having such a horrible problem with this. I hope you can get it worked out and get what you need.
no matter what the lease agreement says, if your in any state in the USA, they are required to supply refrigerators, stoves,a nd all the basic things. That is just law no matter what state you are in, if your outside of the USA though, I do not know, I just know US law.
Search online for where you live for leasing laws and the like, find info, consult a lawyer if the landlord won't supply those things. If law says they have to provide it, then write an official statement, notarized to the landlord, that you will be withholding rent until such a time as your stove and refrigerator and the like are provided.
where do you live?
Yep, for an apartment, the stove at least is included. The manager may have some in storage to replace them.
Before you freak, talk to the manager. They may not even know this happened, for all you know, she may have stolen them.
Oh he knows alright. He said he MAY have a stove for me but he's not sure if it works >.< And I live in Ontario Canada. I'm not sure what the laws are i'm going to look it up. It should be the law :S i did however buy a very cool toilet seat LOL but i've been packing everything i can carry into the uhaul since adrian is at work. She's bringing a friend from work with her to help move the huge stuff. Man i'm beat.
Quote from: phantom_heart on May 01, 2009, 03:43:23 PM
Oh he knows alright. He said he MAY have a stove for me but he's not sure if it works >.< And I live in Ontario Canada. I'm not sure what the laws are i'm going to look it up. It should be the law :S i did however buy a very cool toilet seat LOL but i've been packing everything i can carry into the uhaul since adrian is at work. She's bringing a friend from work with her to help move the huge stuff. Man i'm beat.
yeah, do the research, i cant see as canada's laws on the matter are much different then ours, it should be covered (in theory).
I wish you luck in the matter though
I thought Canada was one of those countries where tenants often own and therefore take appliances with them when they move.
Other places in the world you even take the cabinets with when you leave. South America, Europe.
The appliances stay behind as a rule are way more of an American thing than many of us realize.
You might want to check out garage sales for the appliances. Craigslist is helpful for this sort of thing as well.
Best of luck with your new place.
Mich'
My experience is that apartments come WITH appliances, but I've never rented a house that came with them.
I read that in Germany the law says when you move, you have to remove your plumbing fixtures and take them with you. Anyone moving into a new place has to buy their own plumbing fixtures and have them installed first. What a pain in the rear! And this is considered normal? Crazy Germans. Apparently there are a whole lot of plumbing fixture stores over there.
you have to remove your plumbing fixtures and take them with you
They must have one hell of a plumbers union.
Quote from: Hypatia on May 01, 2009, 11:45:57 PM
I read that in Germany the law says when you move, you have to remove your plumbing fixtures and take them with you. Anyone moving into a new place has to buy their own plumbing fixtures and have them installed first. What a pain in the rear! And this is considered normal? Crazy Germans. Apparently there are a whole lot of plumbing fixture stores over there.
wow, just wow
Oh my! When we were going through stuff that she left last night she left a pack of womans razors, nobs for the cubbords in the kitchen. A closet thingy 2 small tv trays and 2 odd pink mats. She also took the little nob off the chain lock on the bacment. I still can't get over the toilot seat. Its just soo wierd. I just bought a cool one with butterflys on it for 12 bucks at walmart and i'm leaving it there when i move LOL.
Cuteist thing when we were moving at like 9pm last night with a huge uhaul. This little girl comes out of apartment 2 and askes if we are the new people moving in. (i was waiting on adrian to show up) i was like yep its me and my hubby (said hubby out of habit) and she's like "no kids" and she looked so hopefull! i was like "no i'm sorry no kids" she looks sad and is like "Thats okay." AWWW
We ended up leaving all of our stuff in the apartment and staying at adrians dad's place tonight just because her job is in this city and she's has to go in early. and we were to whiped to drive back lol. SO i'll be unpacking everything tonight and tomorrow. Hopefully i will be getting a fridge and stove from easy home for 22 bucks a week. Thats good since adrian gets paid weekely. Anyone else used easy home? Is it good? It looks okay to me but i'm desperate so anything looks good LOL
I wont have internet until thursday..how will i survive!!
You will probably be paying very high interest on your new fridge and stove.
Check thrift stores. They often have appliances. Probably better than renting a stove.
Robyn
Or the local Craig's List, or some 'free' service. We have several of those here, where if you are willing to go pick it up, they will give it to you.
free-cycle is a wonderful thing, know a friend kitted out a whole house that way, and it is the friendliest cosiest most interesting looking house i've ever been in. I'm now an 'honorary housemate'.
Well i'm moved into the new apartment and founds some problems today. There is some black mould spots in the bacement i dont know what to do about it. the people up stares in the other apartment think that the landlord wont do aynthing suposidly the previous tenit tried.
Also i saw i mouse yesterday >.< and there is like NO water pressure.
Are you able, legally, to withhold rent until these issues are resolved?
Document document document. photo photo photo. put stuff in writing. Start a paper trail with the landlord.
Quote from: phantom_heart on May 08, 2009, 08:53:30 PM
Well i'm moved into the new apartment and founds some problems today. There is some black mould spots in the bacement i dont know what to do about it. the people up stares in the other apartment think that the landlord wont do aynthing suposidly the previous tenit tried.
Also i saw i mouse yesterday >.< and there is like NO water pressure.
did you not check the place out before signing the lease
but im pretty sure even in canada if they don't fix mold they are in a heap of legal crap
I did look at it but i didnt know to look for problems like this...I'm going to take photos of the problems and than let my landlord know my concerns. If he wont do anything i'll get in contact with the city. its just so diffrent for me. I'm not used to any of this stuff. :S
Quote from: phantom_heart on May 09, 2009, 11:36:58 AM
I did look at it but i didnt know to look for problems like this...I'm going to take photos of the problems and than let my landlord know my concerns. If he wont do anything i'll get in contact with the city. its just so diffrent for me. I'm not used to any of this stuff. :S
yeah, crappy landlords can unravel your look on things, because that hits you close, its where you live. Your perspective changes when your home is messed with.
It sounds like our current apartment owner. Our stove and garage is falling apart and all he says is 'oh that's nothing. It just needs a little touch up work, is all. ' the bastard.
Dear (landlords name),
I have notified you of the following problems with unit### previously. The following photographs show that these issues have not been resolved.
Therefore I am withholding payment of rent until these issues are corrected.
Sincerely,
Your Name Here.
PS I have opened a bank account at ##### Bank. At said bank I have deposited this months rent and will make said payment AFTER these issues are resolved.
ATTACHED... You will find a photocopy of said deposit.
Dear (landlords name),
I have previously notified you ( how many times) of the following problems with unit### [/b]on the [/b] (when). The following photographs show that these issues have not been resolved.
Therefore I am withholding payment of rent until these issues are corrected.
Sincerely,
Your Name Here.
PS I have opened a bank account at ##### Bank. At said bank I have deposited this months rent and will make said payment AFTER these issues are resolved.
ATTACHED... You will find a photocopy of the above mentioned deposit, and photographs.
[/quote]
That's just the changes i'll make.
Excellent.
That will send the correct message.
Maybe just one more edit.
QuoteDear (landlords name),
I have previously notified you (how many times) of the following problems with unit### on the (when). The following photographs show that these issues have not been resolved.
Therefore I am withholding payment of rent until these issues are corrected.
Sincerely,
Your Name Here.
PS I have opened a bank account at ##### Bank. At said bank I have deposited this months rent and will gladly make said payment AFTER these issues are resolved.
ATTACHED... You will find a photocopy of the above mentioned deposit, and photographs.
That's just the changes i'll make.
I'd check with a lawyer to make sure that conforms to legal standards and practices for where you are. Some places that legal, others, it's not.
Thanks guys this is really going to help!!! I'm still taking photos. I'm also getting a quote from mould specialists because they say that they can directly charge the landlord for the fee's. and if he doesnt pay they help me go to the city for help. I dunno i'm still looking into it. Thanks so much guys!
Quote from: Kiera on May 14, 2009, 09:37:03 AM
;D ;D Rachel, i'm looking to fix up (as best possible within means) and rent out a house in the Atlanta area as well,
Do I need to revise my Good Book" phrases to read: "Neither a borrower, lender or landlord be"?
phantom_heart, perhaps you can negotiate further "the rent"?
I wish you the best of luck, there are some bad tenants out there, but there are good ones too.
My peeve is a landlord that charges you a metric ton of money for a pet, its rediculous, allow it or don't...ugh