Hey everybody, just wondering, how many months were you on T when your "dicklet" stopped growing? I have been on T since late May '08 and it seems like mine stopped growing at around six months. I'm worried that that's it but I have heard from some people that they've had growth spurts even after years of being on T.
What a horrible thing to call it.
Quote from: Mister on May 04, 2009, 08:25:42 PM
What a horrible thing to call it.
You haven't heard that term before? It's pretty common. And I wasn't asking what you thought of the word.
Quote from: trnsboi on May 04, 2009, 08:37:31 PM
You haven't heard that term before? It's pretty common. And I wasn't asking what you thought of the word.
I have. and I've told everyone I've heard use it that I think it's horrible and disrespectful.
Also, your very first post is asking a question about a trans person's genitals? sorry, but you're not likely to get many responses from those of us who have been on T for a while (which would be about a half dozen or so) without establishing any kind of rapport. To me, that indicates a troll.
Thanks for the warm welcome. I'm entitled to use whatever words I wish just as you are entitled to dislike them.
Quote from: trnsboi on May 04, 2009, 09:05:07 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome. I'm entitled to use whatever words I wish just as you are entitled to dislike them.
Not so much around here. Check the TOS before you start making those kinds of statements.
Um, "dicklet" does not constitute "foul or obscene language." It is a commonly used term within the FTM community. There are many terms that some people find offensive. Some people find the words "cock" and "pussy" foul and obscene and yet they appear on the message boards. I know people who are offended by the terms FTM and MTF because they suggest that trans people are different from other men and women. Does that mean that these terms should not be used on the boards? No. It's a personal preference, and nobody is making you use any word that you dislike.
Hey, nice to meet you trnsboy. Off to a good start ;)
Feel free to write an introduction in our introductions section.
Mister is right in that we do have some terms of service rules for this site, one in particular is around language.
I don't think dicklet itself would be disallowed, but if someone finds it distasteful just accept they can say they don't like it (what would you prefer Mister?, actually what would all you guys prefer.. ???).
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If you don't like the term, do you have a better one? This seems to be the appropriate term, according to the Urban Dictionary:
1. dicklet 38 up, 5 down
1: an unusually small penis
2: the natural phallus of a female-to-male transexual, as enlarged to the proportions of a small penis by hormones and possibly metaoidioplasty (but not phalloplasty)
38 votes in favor and 5 against is a pretty big margain.
Nicky sums it up!!! ;) (i kinda like the word dicklet)
Any chance we can get someone to answer this question? I am curious to see the answer.
Myles
It's my penis. my dick. my cock. it isn't lesser or other than a penis.
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Quote from: GinaDouglas on May 04, 2009, 09:47:26 PM
If you don't like the term, do you have a better one? This seems to be the appropriate term, according to the Urban Dictionary:
1. dicklet 38 up, 5 down
1: an unusually small penis
2: the natural phallus of a female-to-male transexual, as enlarged to the proportions of a small penis by hormones and possibly metaoidioplasty (but not phalloplasty)
38 votes in favor and 5 against is a pretty big margain.
Because Urban Dictionary is always polite and accurate. It also includes MTFs in the definitions of Trap, ->-bleeped-<- and Chick With A Dick, so i guess those are now also fair play.
Well, it kinda is "other" than a penis, since you don't pee through it.
You have the right to use language as you see fit. You have the right to tell others that their use of language offends you. But you don't really have the right to tell other people how they have to use language, because that contradicts their right to use language as they see fit. Deliberate hate speech is an exception, but trnsboi's use of language was clearly not hate speech.
I don't care if you call it a dicklet or a chicklet or a case of beer. I just find it offensive when people try to control other people's use of language, when that use of language is not deliberately meant to offend.
Quote from: GinaDouglas on May 04, 2009, 11:48:31 PM
Well, it kinda is "other" than a penis, since you don't pee through it.
I don't?
Not the way I understand human anatomy, you don't. If I'm wrong, you have my apologies.
Quote from: GinaDouglas on May 04, 2009, 11:53:38 PM
Not the way I understand human anatomy, you don't. If I'm wrong, you have my apologies.
you're forgiven.
The "-let" suffix implies that it's small, not that it's inferior. Your average trans penis is a lot smaller than your average bio penis. I don't see why that is offensive.
Thanks for all of you who are sticking up for my right of free speech :) Now, is there anyone who can answer the original question?
Okay, this is getting absolutely ridiculous. My CLITORIS is about 1 1/2 inches long after 10 months on T. It doesn't seem to be growing anymore.
I call it a clit, as that's the technical term. But I don't begrudge anyone who refers to it differently.
SD
Thanks for answering Seb. Some guys wouldn't talk about their size and I appreciate your answering the question. :) Hopefully the thread can stay on topic and not continue with bickering about terminology.
Can't believe you lot are on here comparing penis sizes!
And then men complain about being stereotyped! ;)
Quote from: imaz on May 05, 2009, 02:55:07 AM
Can't believe you lot are on here comparing penis sizes!
And then men complain about being stereotyped! ;)
i think its more about wondering and hoping for something worth having than comparing for the macho-ness of it.
Thanks for answering, Sebastien. We've been on T for almost the same amount of time and that's about where I am as well, but that's only when I'm, um, very happy haha.
Quote from: Sebastien on May 05, 2009, 01:24:57 AM
Okay, this is getting absolutely ridiculous. My CLITORIS is about 1 1/2 inches long after 10 months on T. It doesn't seem to be growing anymore.
I call it a clit, as that's the technical term. But I don't begrudge anyone who refers to it differently.
SD
Hi, Trnsboi. I've been on T for nearly three months, so I'm not as large as you and Sebastien. I really don't have enough to measure. Except when I'm, er, happy. And when that happens, pulling out a measuring tape is the last thing on my mind!
Welcome to the site, by the way. Will you be posting an introduction?
if you guys are that concerned about the size of your dicks, get on HGH and pump regularly. twoish years of that got me to less than a half inch of bio 'normal' preop.
What 5 inchs? :o
Quote from: Mister on May 05, 2009, 04:03:55 PM
if you guys are that concerned about the size of your dicks, get on HGH and pump regularly. twoish years of that got me to less than a half inch of bio 'normal' preop.
It sounds to me like they've already surpassed your record, Mister. I'm not sure why they'd want to use the method given the results. My guess would be that 1 1/2 is about the best anyone could hope for.
There are born males who haven't maybe as much or certainly not more. (As long as you guys are measuring.) :)
Nichole
Quote from: Nichole on May 05, 2009, 04:58:18 PM
It sounds to me like they've already surpassed your record, Mister. I'm not sure why they'd want to use the method given the results. My guess would be that 1 1/2 is about the best anyone could hope for.
There are born males who haven't maybe as much or certainly not more. (As long as you guys are measuring.) :)
Nichole
Nicole, I think you misread my post. Again.
Quote from: Mister on May 05, 2009, 05:00:03 PM
Nicole, I think you misread my post. Again.
Huh? What did I "miss" this time?
twoish years of that got me to less than a half inch of bio 'normal' preop.
Quote from: Mister on May 05, 2009, 05:03:13 PM
twoish years of that got me to less than a half inch of bio 'normal' preop.
Nope, I read that, they are saying they already have that and more. Perhaps you meant to say that you added that much in addition to what they have?
N~
Quote from: Nichole on May 05, 2009, 05:04:52 PM
Nope, I read that, they are saying they already have that and more. Perhaps you meant to say that you added that much in addition to what they have?
N~
No, what they're saying is that they've got an inch and a half. white bio male normal is ~4.8 inches. I was 4.2 preop. About a half inch less than bio male normal. all the people who have posted have not been on t for very long. it'd be basically impossible for them to have seen the same amount of growth, let alone more, Nichole.
I'm kinda watching this topic, because, I'm honestly curious.
what I would like to know is not just "how big does it get" but also "how much does it grow" because, I have an unusually large clitoris as is and I wonder if that means I could get to a larger overall size on just T, or whether there's a sort of roof on how big it'll get regardless of starting size.
Quote from: Miniar on May 05, 2009, 05:07:43 PM
I'm kinda watching this topic, because, I'm honestly curious.
what I would like to know is not just "how big does it get" but also "how much does it grow" because, I have an unusually large clitoris as is and I wonder if that means I could get to a larger overall size on just T, or whether there's a sort of roof on how big it'll get regardless of starting size.
average post t-only numbers are 5-7cm. your starting size might give you a heads up and it might not. everybody's different.
Um, sorry to butt in here, but I think the confusion may be because Mister said half an inch of bio 'normal' preop, when it should have read half an inch off bio 'normal' preop. Just a small typo, and I still understood what Mister was meaning, but I guess it could have been hazy to others.
:)
i think either is acceptable. i doubt many other people wouldn't have understood what i meant.
Edited to remove portion that violated Rule 2 of the TOS. -- Nichole
actually, I had no idea what you meant Mister.
I was also thinking recently of posting a question similar to this... I'm going on 9 months on T and I think my clit stopped growing around the 6 month mark as well. I'd reckon its about 4-5 centimetres from the base. What I was curious about however, is that it doesn't jut out at all unless theres been some excitement. Otherwise it stays within the confines of its home. Is that how it is with others?
I didn't know what you meant, either. And frankly, your sarcastic tone isn't necessary. There's no need to take personally a small misunderstanding such as this. It's derailing the topic.
Anyway thank you for responding those that did, as this does come into play when thinking about lower surgery.
Thanks
Myles
Kestin, mine stays pretty much hidden unless I'm aroused. At that point, it may well get to 2 inches or more... haven't really bothered checking then. And I've never measured it with a ruler, just with my fingers... I honestly don't care much about how long it gets, because I don't plan on ever having any type of bottom surgery, but it's still interesting just to see the effects of T.
Miniar, as per how much does it grow, I certainly couldn't see my clit before T. It was entirely hidden by the clitoral hood. Now it protrudes, but not near as much normally as when I'm aroused. It looks very different, though, and I noticed that probably within the first 3 months I was on T. Also, for me, that area HURT like a mf'er for about 4 months while things were growing.
Mister, how did that work with human growth hormone? Did it affect any other parts of your body, or height growth?
SD
Sorry if this is kinda off topic.. but am I the only one NOT excited about clit growth? I'm really not looking forward to that effect of T at all.. maybe I'm alone on this haha
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Mister, how did that work with human growth hormone? Did it affect any other parts of your body, or height growth?
Since I started it six weeks after i started testosterone, it's hard to say what each change is attributed to. I didn't get any taller, but my height had been fixed for about ten years prior to starting T. My feet grew a bit more than it seems people who are only on T experience (2-2.5 sizes) and my hands/wrists grew considerably. I now wear my watch 3 holes looser than I did a few years ago. Other than that, nothing out of the ordinary for testosterone use except for the extra growth, which is why I went on HGH.
Wow. Mister, were you very big before going on t? And how old were you when you started? I've heard that you get better results the younger you are. Also, how did you get the HGH?
I was pretty big to start off (like 1/4 inch) but now I think I'm pretty average for FTMs. I've pumped but I don't do it every day so I haven't noticed any growth.
Quote from: Mister on May 05, 2009, 05:06:16 PM
No, what they're saying is that they've got an inch and a half. white bio male normal is ~4.8 inches. I was 4.2 preop. About a half inch less than bio male normal. all the people who have posted have not been on t for very long. it'd be basically impossible for them to have seen the same amount of growth, let alone more, Nichole.
Mister, how were you able to get the doctor to prescribe HGH for you?
Did your insurance cover the HGH? I find this technique fascinating.
my old insurance didn't, so i used a HSA. my new insurance covers 90% of it.
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If it gets bigger on T and sticks out, does it get chaffed? I suppose you get desensitised like a guy that has been circumcised
Quote from: Nicky on May 06, 2009, 05:12:25 PM
If it gets bigger on T and sticks out, does it get chaffed? I suppose you get desensitised like a guy that has been circumcised
Yes. it's very sensitive, especially when starting T/immediately after a growth spurt. It's all about comfy underwear.
Quote from: Chamillion on May 05, 2009, 07:12:20 PM
Sorry if this is kinda off topic.. but am I the only one NOT excited about clit growth? I'm really not looking forward to that effect of T at all.. maybe I'm alone on this haha
I never wanted "growth," either. But after I started T, I sorta started wanting it. Perhaps I'm channeling some of my I-still-want-a-penis frustrations into it.
Then again, maybe there's some wishful thinking on my part that I might wind up with something larger than usual. But I don't think so.
I could be lying to myself...but since I'm not Pinocchio, it won't do me any good, size-wise. :D
Quote from: Chamillion on May 05, 2009, 07:12:20 PM
Sorry if this is kinda off topic.. but am I the only one NOT excited about clit growth? I'm really not looking forward to that effect of T at all.. maybe I'm alone on this haha
That was one of the main reasons I started T! I thought I'd be bigger since I had a large clit to begin with but I seem to be stuck at an inch and a half. I should probably start pumping daily--has anyone else used pumps?
lots of people do. its recommended a lot.
I have seen on many XXX rated shops online. clit pumps they are quite expensive..
If it works its worth a shot eh?
Anyone??
Jay
there are cheap ways to make your own too. ive done it. :P if you want to know how, message me.
So have you noticed it grow any larger than previously?
I tried to make my own but I would rather by the product to be honest.
Thanks for the offer though :)
Jay
i dont use it regularly and im only about 3.5 months on T, so idk if it helped any.
short term effects are fun though... bigger, harder, and more sensetive.
I pumped pretty regularly until I was no longer single... any time I made mention of needing/wanting to do it, my girlfriend provided me with an alternative.
I think for those of us not really interested in, or not having decided to get bottom surgery, the clitoral growth is all a bit scary beforehand. There are worries about what sexual activities will be like after T, atleast on my part.
Quote from: Mister on May 05, 2009, 04:03:55 PM
if you guys are that concerned about the size of your dicks, get on HGH and pump regularly. twoish years of that got me to less than a half inch of bio 'normal' preop.
"While a clitoral pump can temporarily increase the size of the genitalia due to the forced increase in blood flow by means of the vacuum, permanent enlargement is rare and usually of minimal extent. There is also a risk of serious injury if too much suction is applied to the genitals."
The source was wikipedia ... and no, I don't consider everything in wikipedia 100% accurate ... but I do know the pumps work by increasing the blood flow to the area, so I can see how injury could occur by either using it too often or just with too much suction.
Also, besides just use of hormone therapy, age and your genes are going to play a part in growth. Perhaps there's a "typical" amount of growth to expect but I'm sure it's one of those "everyone is going to have different results" types of things as well.
Also, if anyone's interested in comparing to bio males > http://www.sizesurvey.com/result.html (http://www.sizesurvey.com/result.html)
Before I answer question..... Mister, don't you think you can be less... rude and getting up everyones' butts? Just chill out. Geez.
Anyway, I had a large clit before I started T. Now I have a nice sized Plit as I like to call it. (Penis-Clit~) It's about 1 inch long, the hood/foreskin grew with it, I can't really penetrate or anything like that, but it's still a nice happy-noise inducing fact.
I've thought of a pump, they are expensive as hell though and right now I can't do much on that favor, but I do look forward to it when I can. I think it would be amazing.
And I forgot whom said about can't pee through an unaltered clit? Well.. yeah. You can't. I don't know why Mister has to talk all elusive and such. Unless of course, you're intersexed, you can't pee through the clit without any surgery. Let's keep anatomy correct at least, k? Don't go confusing people.
Blood leopard,
This is an old thread. Mister hasn't been seen in quite a while.
Oh.. haha. All I saw was that there were posts labeled "today". Forgive the 4am ness for me.
NP
I'm thankful to whoever dug it up, it's a great thread. I like hearing about other guys "sizes" if that doesn't make me sound too weird. I'm like 1/1000 of an inch so this gives me hope it'll grow :)
Michael Alexander, I'm right there with you! For me having my own sorta-penis is pretty high up there on the list of important, and threads like this help me believe that one day I'll have something awesome! :D
Quote from: MaxAloysius on November 24, 2010, 07:27:57 AM
Michael Alexander, I'm right there with you! For me having my own sorta-penis is pretty high up there on the list of important, and threads like this help me believe that one day I'll have something awesome! :D
Word on this. Having something I can actually jack is one of the biggest incentives for T for me. And this thread is pretty good (amusing terminology argument included)
9 months on T and pumping about every other day has got me to 1.5 inches soft and up to 3 inches hard.
The cheapest pump you can make is out of a 60cc Catheter Syringe. On amazon I ordered 10 of them with shipping it cost about 12 bucks. I got a bunch of them in case I messed up cutting the pointy end off.
Basically there are two ways to use them. (1) Cut off pointing end, insert dick, pull plunger out slowly. or (2) Take plunger out, use a hose from a "normal" penis pump but attach it to the smaller cylinder from the syringe. This method uses parts from a cheap pump available at most adult stores.
I can tell you that regular pumping does help size. I'm not saying it will give you permanent growth, but it will increase the average size your erection achieves even when that erection is not caused by pumping.
PS: Use lube every time you pump. Your dick will thank you
Quote from: trnsboi on May 04, 2009, 07:46:21 PM
Hey everybody, just wondering, how many months were you on T when your "dicklet" stopped growing?
... unfair advantage / virilized at birth. sadly I remained impotent even with viagra.
(intersexed)
good luck though, hope you get better results (I gave up... though today I'm going out dressed male for the first time since I stopped the last of my FTM-style hormones last month)
... perk though is I don't have to style my hair and can wear a charming beret that coordinates with my outfit instead.
metrosexual male versus androgynous lesbian... I'm funny like that (genderfluid) these days.
Quote from: Nick Aiden on November 24, 2010, 11:25:04 AM
9 months on T and pumping about every other day has got me to 1.5 inches soft and up to 3 inches hard.
Nick--did you start pumping at the same time you started t? If you started them at the same time then there's no way to tell if it was the pump or if you just have good genes :) I have a pump but I am terrible about keeping up a good regimen.