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Title: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: tekla on May 19, 2009, 09:30:15 AM
Now this is funny.  As a life-long (at least as an adult) advocate for taxing the churches, and taxing the property owned by the churches,and taxing the businesses run by and for the churches I had to think as I read this that perhaps there is a god after all.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News /2009/05/18/No-benefits-for-laid-off-religious-workers/UPI-95691242688977/ (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/05/18/No-benefits-for-laid-off-religious-workers/%20UPI-95691242688977/)

RICHMOND, Va., May 18 (UPI) -- Some people recently laid-off from religious institutions in Virginia said they were shocked to find the state does not offer them unemployment benefits.

Carol Bronson, who was laid off from her secretarial job at Temple Emanuel synagogue in Virginia Beach, said she was told her unemployment claim was denied because the tax exemptions for religious organizations under Virginia law include an exemption from paying unemployment taxes, The (Norfolk) Virginian-Pilot reported Monday.


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Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: lisagurl on May 19, 2009, 02:01:07 PM
It does not stop them from receiving public services like fire and police protection.
Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: NicholeW. on May 19, 2009, 02:03:55 PM
Quote from: lisagurl on May 19, 2009, 02:01:07 PM
It does not stop them from receiving public services like fire and police protection.

Now there's an idea! :laugh: Churches could take subscriptions for fire and police service as was done in the early decades of USA and in the colonies before that!

Excellent idea, Lisa! :)

N~
Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: tekla on May 19, 2009, 02:13:31 PM
>>>> approves
Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: RebeccaFog on May 19, 2009, 06:37:47 PM

since ceaser wore a skirt, it's probably pretty easy to render unto him.

Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: NicholeW. on May 19, 2009, 06:45:22 PM
Rebis, luv, I think you made your response to the wrong thread! Did you mean that to go in this thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,60131.msg385484.html#msg385484)?
>:-)

Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: RebeccaFog on May 19, 2009, 08:08:00 PM
Quote from: Nichole on May 19, 2009, 06:45:22 PM
Rebis, luv, I think you made your response to the wrong thread! Did you mean that to go in this thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,60131.msg385484.html#msg385484)?
>:-)

All threads.  I think it's a good line.   :)
Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: Cindy on May 20, 2009, 04:13:51 AM
Why can't they pray to the Lord (Whoever) to put the fire out?

I also get amused by Psychics advertising. Don't they know the answer?

Cindy
Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: Agent_J on May 25, 2009, 12:03:15 AM
I've had to laugh how in some versions of the article there is effort to make it out to be strictly the state government's choice; that the church has absolutely no control over the unemployment eligibility.  The really special articles are those that take that angle then point out that there are options (pay the tax, file self-insurance in lieu...) but that it's up to the church, as the employer, to effect them.
Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: Mister on May 25, 2009, 02:13:41 AM
Ugh.  While I do not understand why anyone would work for a religious institution, that just sucks. I would be interested to find out if the church simply has the option to opt out of unemployment insurance or if they are not allowed to contribute at all.  If it's the former, I feel for the laid off employees.
Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: lisagurl on May 25, 2009, 08:32:26 AM
QuoteWhile I do not understand why anyone would work for a religious institution,

Many own hospitals, publishing houses, farms, and many other business.
Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: RebeccaFog on May 25, 2009, 12:28:59 PM
Quote from: lisagurl on May 25, 2009, 08:32:26 AM
Many own hospitals, publishing houses, farms, and many other business.

Ain't there no churches in the pR0n biz?  I'd work for that one.
Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: tekla on May 25, 2009, 12:29:51 PM
Tax the churches.  Tax the business owned by the churches.  Frank Zappa
Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: Hazumu on May 25, 2009, 01:20:25 PM
"Render unto Caesar if line 56 is greater than line 64"

-an entry to a contest in Discovery Magazine.  The contest was to alter cliches to make them startling.

(Another phrase so altered: "Running around like a chicken with its legs cut off")

=K
Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: LadyArwen on May 30, 2009, 07:40:23 PM
Quote from: Karen on May 25, 2009, 01:20:25 PM
"Render unto Caesar if line 56 is greater than line 64"

-an entry to a contest in Discovery Magazine.  The contest was to alter cliches to make them startling.

(Another phrase so altered: "Running around like a chicken with its legs cut off")

=K

ROTFL!! This is rich. :laugh:
Title: Re: Render Unto Ceaser
Post by: RebeccaFog on May 30, 2009, 11:15:06 PM

If God had wanted humans to fly, he would have given us beaks.