I've just had a right experience.
So after my little examination of the breast, of which some of you may remember i found a lump that - from that examination - turned out to be a cyst, the hospital had called me back. However, they failed to mention in their letter why.
So all seems normal at my appointment, the nurse said it was to discuss the blood results, i'm told to strip off my top and in walks a male doc to examine them. Having told them the cyst had now disappeared, the male doc seems more interested in the queer lumps i have on my chest... And then he says: "Do you mind if i have a look at your scrotum?"
O_O
As to which i replied: "Yes, i do mind." So he asks why. I tell him i'm FTM transexual and that part wont ever be shown to anyone unless they're performing surgery on it.
So he sits me down and explains to me his concern about my breasts. And also goes on to explain some males can have a definciency in testosterone, he asks if i was born with enlarged breasts and goes on to explain there's possible chance i could have been born with XXY chromosomes instead of XY.
And so of which i explain AGAIN that my body is FEMALE lol He didn't know. My GP had never told them i was FTM and the doc didn't even know what it meant!! O_O wow >_>
And so the matter was dropped. I shouldn't have said anything should i? lol They might have taken my breasts off there and then and given me hormones >_< damn
So... i dont know whether to feel embarrassed... or even more confident about my situation. I think a little of both since they all thought i was a guy after all this time and seeing my chest and all. Bloody good job i aint a DD lmao
I'd think it'd be embarrassing and awesome all at the same time.
I mean, that's not easy to do.
That's way cool but I think I would have dropped trou and let him see your scrotum just to see the look on his face LOL
Haha, that's great. Passing with a physician, that's gotta be a good sign!
Quote from: Cyndigurl45 on May 26, 2009, 09:52:50 AM
That's way cool but I think I would have dropped trou and let him see your scrotum just to see the look on his face LOL
You could have gotten some possibly insurance covered reconstructive surgery too. ;)
Quote from: Radar on May 26, 2009, 02:08:11 PM
You could have gotten some possibly insurance covered reconstructive surgery too. ;)
oh every things free here on the NHS in the UK. Except, it's a bloody darn long wait. But i am wondering if i never said anything, would treatment for the testosterone definciency and ops for breast removal be a much quicker wait? It makes one ponder.
Quote from: jonjon on May 26, 2009, 02:19:08 PM
oh every things free here on the NHS in the UK. Except, it's a bloody darn long wait. But i am wondering if i never said anything, would treatment for the testosterone definciency and ops for breast removal be a much quicker wait? It makes one ponder.
Ah, O.K. I didn't know you were in the UK. Will they even pay for bottom reconstructive surgery, even though the insurance companies in the US would consider it cosmetic and "not necessary"?
i dont know, i think they pay some, but you have to put the rest to it.
Is this typical for National Health doctors? Seems like not the brightest doctor I've run across.
Remember, fifty percent of doctors were in the bottom half of their class.
Only in Med School, and not even then. A lot of Med Schools are a pass/fail deal. But to get into one, you have to be in the top of your undergrad class, at least here.
Ya know what? That story was awesome. Especially the scrotum part. The best part is when you had to explain things twice. I'm really happy for you. I would hope to be in that position one day on the opposite side......like when was my last pap smear or something......
Good for you.
Quote from: Radar on May 26, 2009, 03:52:08 PM
Ah, O.K. I didn't know you were in the UK. Will they even pay for bottom reconstructive surgery, even though the insurance companies in the US would consider it cosmetic and "not necessary"?
Yes, they will in most places, though it depends on where in the country you are. You have to get referrals etc, but generally they'll pay.
Quote from: tekla on May 26, 2009, 06:10:23 PM
Is this typical for National Health doctors? Seems like not the brightest doctor I've run across.
No, it's not typical of NHS doctors, but if a doctor is particularly rushed and stressed then I guess they believe what they see and don't necessarily listen to the patient properly. Add that to the fact that many doctors probably haven't come across FTMs before, and it's fairly easy to understand how it happens.
Quote from: tekla on May 26, 2009, 06:21:54 PM
Only in Med School, and not even then. A lot of Med Schools are a pass/fail deal. But to get into one, you have to be in the top of your undergrad class, at least here.
The system here is entirely different, it's not a case of undergraduate degree and then Med School.
:)
Quote from: jonjon on May 26, 2009, 02:19:08 PM
oh every things free here on the NHS in the UK. Except, it's a bloody darn long wait. But i am wondering if i never said anything, would treatment for the testosterone definciency and ops for breast removal be a much quicker wait? It makes one ponder.
Probably not, which biological sex you are is something that medical professionals tend to notice. :D
That one was a bit slow, but others (hopefully, at least) wouldn't be.
Funny story by the way lol.
i was meaning more on the sense if i was a biological guy with low testosterone levels and enlarged breasts. Would a biological guy with these problems have a much quicker wait than a transman with the same needs?
medical doctors aren't exempt of the delusion that all transgender people are MTF. not to steal your thunder, but it may be more of an ignorance factor than a passing one, especially if he believed that female was your target gender.
you're still not getting me. He thought i was a bioguy that was born with low testosterone and assumed i was a guy with natural enlarged breasts of which (i do believe if i'd let him carry on) was going to start out doing tests on me to give me the correct medication and treatment to get my body to average male status. And it makes me think would a bioguy with issues like that that ISN'T transgender get treatment faster than someone who WAS transgender for the exact same kinda treatments.
I am getting you. If you told your doctor you were trans, yoru doctor could have assumed you were MTF since the FTM population is a bit more invisible because it hasn't been thrown all over trashy daytime tv as much.
QuoteAnd it makes me think would a bioguy with issues like that that ISN'T transgender get treatment faster than someone who WAS transgender for the exact same kinda treatments.
Seems to me that a cisgendered guy would be too embarrassed about his man boobs to go to the doctor at all.
Quote from: jonjon on May 28, 2009, 12:33:00 PM
And it makes me think would a bioguy with issues like that that ISN'T transgender get treatment faster than someone who WAS transgender for the exact same kinda treatments.
Yes, I reckon they would on the NHS, as there'd be no need for any sort of psychological assessment. Of course, some PCTs probably wouldn't fund corrective surgery for manboobs, as they'd consider it cosmetic surgery in the same way that breast augmentation for cis-gendered women is often not funded. Low T levels though - yes, I'd expect that to be funded - Sustanon and other forms of T weren't developed primarily for trans men y'know!
:)
haha that's awesome. i have to say though that he doesn't seem like a very informed doctor, but definitely still awesome that he thought that :)
Mister - if the doctor assumed MTF why would he suggest treatment for the breasts?
Quote from: Jeatyn on June 03, 2009, 03:58:15 AM
Mister - if the doctor assumed MTF why would he suggest treatment for the breasts?
read this statement from the OP
QuoteSo he sits me down and explains to me his concern about my breasts. And also goes on to explain some males can have a definciency in testosterone, he asks if i was born with enlarged breasts and goes on to explain there's possible chance i could have been born with XXY chromosomes instead of XY.
This is clearly a doctor who was confused. People who are XY are genetically male, and people who are XXY are generally male-appearing and intersexed. The doc thought OP was genetically male, not female, hence the request for a scrotum exam and the breasts being a 'problem.'
Quote from: Mister on June 03, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
The doc thought OP was genetically male, not female, hence the request for a scrotum exam and the breasts being a 'problem.'
exactly, so if i were MTF, why would the breasts be a 'problem'? I don't think he understood at all what transexual meant.
That's what I'm saying. Ignorant doctor.