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Community Conversation => Crossdresser talk => Topic started by: cblucky21 on July 12, 2009, 04:42:34 AM

Title: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: cblucky21 on July 12, 2009, 04:42:34 AM
i really need help learning how to tuck and tape effectively the problem is im a visual learner so i like have lots of problems understanding things in writing is there anyone out there that can please help me i know pictures and diagrams probably arent allowed let alone videos but i really need to know how to do this.
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Cindy on July 12, 2009, 04:49:33 AM
Hi

There used to be diagrams on Wiki. It's really very simple. Push the testicles back into your body, upwards. Fold the scrotal sack back. fold the penis backwards wear a gaff or tight panties. Tape if desired but only if clean shaven, otherwise a lot of tears when removing tape.

Cindy
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: cblucky21 on July 12, 2009, 05:01:10 AM
you make it sounds easy but i dont have a gaff or pantyhose to make the stephygaff so at the moment tape is my most viable option and ive been shaving my entire body for the last 2 hours (helps me relax) so im pretty hairless lol. ill go try what your saying i hope it works if anyone knows of like any site that offers a video or diagram id greatly appreciate it i know urls arent allowed but im sure there some way to help me find the site
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: barbie on July 12, 2009, 05:05:48 AM
I just wear tight underwear pants made of nylone or plastic-like material.
It bulges a little bit, but I do not care so much  ;D

https://www.susans.org/forums/MGalleryItem.php?id=1754 (https://www.susans.org/forums/MGalleryItem.php?id=1754)
https://www.susans.org/forums/MGalleryItem.php?id=1755 (https://www.susans.org/forums/MGalleryItem.php?id=1755)

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: cblucky21 on July 12, 2009, 05:15:07 AM
ok so like i found the cavity i think that you tuck them in  but they most definetly will not stay and it just looks weird how do i keep them up or how do i tape them
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: barbie on July 12, 2009, 05:20:17 AM
I tried to follow some instructions for tucking, but they did not help so much (or was I wrong in some steps?).

Yes. I could find the two cavities, but always one bulges out when I walk.

And wearing tight pants has causes skin problem in my buttock, and I usually wear loosen pants.

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Cindy on July 12, 2009, 05:21:23 AM
As Barbie said, tight panties. Buy some. Nothing works unless you put the effort in. Miracles don't happen
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: V M on July 12, 2009, 05:39:43 AM
I found that low rise bikinis from Victoria's Secret hold my junk pretty well. After pushing the testicles up and wrapping the scrotal sack around the penis it should look rather vaginal at that point. I usually put my panties up first and then tuck  ;)
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: cblucky21 on July 12, 2009, 05:54:45 AM
ok more progress i found out how to get them tucked and and sort of to stay in but the scrotum kind of makes it look like really deformed and what do i do with the shaft tucking just between the legs is uncomfortable can i tuck it too?
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: V M on July 12, 2009, 06:11:35 AM
Do you see the area designed for the vagina? It is usually a cotton panel. Wrap the scrotal sack evenly around the shaft and put it there
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: cblucky21 on July 12, 2009, 06:21:41 AM
lol this is what i mean by being absolutely horrible at understanding written instructions im so sorry this is just like really difficult for me to like understand without seeing. what do u mean wrap around. like push into the scrotum sack? this is so difficult for me lol
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Robyn on July 12, 2009, 06:26:06 AM
Quote from: CindyJames on July 12, 2009, 05:21:23 AM
As Barbie said, tight panties. Buy some. Nothing works unless you put the effort in. Miracles don't happen

And no tucking is necessary if you wear long skirts.

I'm glad I never tried it back in the preop days.

Robyn
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: cblucky21 on July 12, 2009, 06:39:03 AM
lol but i hate long skirts i like showing my legs i might get those pantyhose and make the gaff cause this tucking thing is too hard without seeing it lol. if anyone does have a way for me to visual see it though please do. i know i know im hardheaded haha
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: V M on July 12, 2009, 06:40:05 AM
OK, well look at a picture of girl parts and your panties. Were do you think the goods should go? Should the testicles be pushed up inside much like ovaries? Should the shaft be evenly wrapped in the empty scrotal sack and placed in the cotton vaginal area?  :eusa_think:
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: cblucky21 on July 12, 2009, 06:49:37 AM
hmm i think i see what you mean but how do i keep it in place like (bathroom sitting, walking, swimming, etc etc.
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: barbie on July 15, 2009, 12:07:51 PM
For tight jeans, tight underwear pants seem to be enough for tucking.

As my skinny jeans were black, it is difficult to tell, but my tucking yesterday seemed perfect:

https://www.susans.org/forums/MGalleryItem.php?id=1767 (https://www.susans.org/forums/MGalleryItem.php?id=1767)

I just wore tight underwear pants (price = ca US$1.00).

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Tammy Hope on July 15, 2009, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: cblucky21 on July 12, 2009, 05:15:07 AM
ok so like i found the cavity i think that you tuck them in  but they most definetly will not stay and it just looks weird how do i keep them up or how do i tape them
That has been my frustration as well, lol.

Knowing the simple mechanics and getting them to work are too entirely different things.
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Hannah on July 15, 2009, 01:53:49 PM
The problem I used to run into with this is all the handling made stuff...harder to manage if you will.   :icon_ashamed:

Is hrt in your future? because it clears that right up and has made this whole thing a ton easier. There are lots of panties made just for this, sure they cost a bit but isn't it worth it to escape this hassle on a daily basis?
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Autumn on July 16, 2009, 05:48:38 AM
I paid obscenely high prices for two gaffs. One had this pocket thing that you pulled tight, one was a reinforced thong.

Pocket was total crap, huge waste of money. The thong worked much better, but a similar effect can be obtained by wearing two or three pairs of underwear.

I really don't like to tuck and it's not necessary for me right now, but two tight nylon thongs under a tight more normal panty should give you good support and conceal. Play around with the pairs you have and layering, you might have better results with a different order.

When you first start, especially if you're not a transsexual crossdresser, putting on the clothes or the physical manipulation is probably going to get you swelling. Beat off first if you have to.

Later on either you don't get satisfaction from it (after all, it's just putting on your underwear, nothing special) or you get the satisfaction of looking 'right.'

I wear a size 5 panty, adult underwear doesn't really go smaller other than XS sizes from VS or forever 21, but the problem there is you may not have enough room at all. What you want is underwear that is tight but has the ability to hold you in place. If your body is bigger than mine, it's much easier to find a smaller size of underwear for a tight fit. The pocket gaff I mentioned above was physically too big for me to get it tightened.

Simply buying pantyhose (they're like 33 cents at walmart for disposable pairs, more durable ones that have paneling to hold your gut and sides in are more expensive) and cutting them is an option too.
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Wendy on July 16, 2009, 10:52:51 AM
Getting it in place is easy but keeping it there seems to not work well for me.

When people say they use tape what type of tape do they use?
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: tekla on July 16, 2009, 02:36:12 PM
two words.  foundation garments
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: petiteduality on July 28, 2009, 08:08:17 AM
Just a pair of panties one or two sizes smaller make the trick for me. The bad thing is that I can't do the tucking for more than 4-5 hours because it starts to chaff.

Foundation garments have not helped me much. The ones I have found have too loose fabric in the key area, but are tight in the rest of the garment.
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Maryteresa on August 29, 2009, 05:33:13 AM
Frankly, at my age I'm not going to tuck my testicles up into my abdominal cavity.  It depends what you want to wear 'en femme'.  As I see it, it can only be necessary to engage in excruciating tucking if you want to wear a swimsuit or bunnysuit in public.   For the rest of us crossdressers, who wear skirts &c an invisible tuck and no bulge is perfectly achievable using tight fitting support panties and pantyhose, all available in packets at M&S, to mention just one outlet.
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Renate on August 29, 2009, 05:45:00 AM
Apparently, inguinal canals are quite variable.
I have heard of those for whom pushing the testicles back up the inguinal canal is "excruciating".
For others, they go up there very easily and just stay there naturally.
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Chrissty on August 30, 2009, 08:21:07 AM
Quote from: Renate on August 29, 2009, 05:45:00 AM
Apparently, inguinal canals are quite variable.
I have heard of those for whom pushing the testicles back up the inguinal canal is "excruciating".
For others, they go up there very easily and just stay there naturally.

Hmm...the problem I seem to get, is unless everthing is really tight.. :o

....the lot ends up "in there".. ::)

Maybe I'm just deformed? :-\

Chrissty
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Wendy on September 02, 2009, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: Renate on August 29, 2009, 05:45:00 AM
Apparently, inguinal canals are quite variable.
I have heard of those for whom pushing the testicles back up the inguinal canal is "excruciating".
For others, they go up there very easily and just stay there naturally.

Well these days they go in easily but jogging was not a good idea.  It still hurts when they get bruised.
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Cindy on September 03, 2009, 04:10:59 AM
Sumo Wrestlers seem to do it with no pain :laugh:

Or maybe they are in to pain? :laugh:
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: GinaDouglas on September 03, 2009, 06:16:52 PM
There seems to a missing element in most of your understandings of how to do this.  The testes can't drop back out of the belly if there is no place for them to go.  You have to effectively eliminate the scrotal sac.  The way to do that is to pull the right edge and the left edge up and over the penile shaft,  so they meet each other, 180 degrees from where they started.  You can then put a piece of cloth medical tape over the top of the shaft, to hold the two edges of the sac together, and then a loop of tape around the whole thing to hold the first piece of tape in place.  You then pull the penis forward, which causes it to lengthen, but lose girth, and fold it back into the ass-crack.  I don't use tape anymore, just control-top panties such as Nancy Ganz 446 Tumm-ee Brief Panties or Body Wrap 44810 Panty Brief Panties.  For sizing, since we don't have wide hips, add 15% to the weight recommendations for size.  So, since the mediums say they are good up to 140 pounds, they are really good up to over 160.
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Renate on September 03, 2009, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: GinaDouglas on September 03, 2009, 06:16:52 PM
You have to effectively eliminate the scrotal sac.

Huh? I don't understand this. Testes up, thing down. Let the scrotum take care of itself.
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Nicky on September 03, 2009, 07:05:31 PM
I must have a little nads, I don't see how I could wrap the sack around anything.

Yeah, I think it takes care of itself. I guess if it is big enough it might actually help things stay in place.
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: Tammy Hope on September 04, 2009, 01:23:53 AM
I've read, and tried, what Gina describes and i know the logistics of it - I just can't keep everything in place until I apply whatever it is that's going to hold it that way
Title: Re: Need Help Tucking!!!
Post by: GinaDouglas on September 04, 2009, 06:20:14 PM
It's a proven technique that goes back at least to JoAnn Roberts book, published in the 80's.  It stays in place, is comfortable, and keeps you from getting erect.  The point is that it leaves nowhere for the testes to drop back into.