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Title: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: flygirl82 on July 12, 2009, 08:50:43 PM
Hi everyone.  im rather new to this site, in terms of being active atleast as i have been reading post for a long while, but havent actually posted much myself.  anyways hi everyone ;-p  I have a question in regards to hormones. I have been living full time for almost a year now.  I would post a picture however it wont let me do an avatar thing so soon.  Im starting hormones in a little more then a week.  I know we arent suppose to discuss dosaging and stuff but my question is this, he said that he would be giving me hormones shots and i had the option of going in and getting the shots every 2 weeks or 1x a month.  im thinking more along the lines of 1x month if i have to go in since i travel alot. but i really dont hear of many girls even being given that option, is it not as effective? is it better that i go in 2 times a month?  i asked him he said it was the same...  any thoughts, suggestions or comments greatly appreciated.

Anabella Bianca.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Nero on July 12, 2009, 09:09:17 PM
are you a trans guy or girl? if you're getting testosterone injections, 1x a month sounds a little too far inbetween. i don't know for estrogen.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: flygirl82 on July 12, 2009, 09:18:39 PM
sorry ... to clarify i am a m2f transexual.  i made this profile really late at night obviously sleep deprived an accidently put f2m transexual and am not being able to change this??!!  is this due to me being so new and needing to do an x amount of post before i can edit my profile??
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Michelle. on July 13, 2009, 12:09:47 AM
Hey Flygirl,

At 15 posts your profile features open up, as does PM and picture posting.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Lori on July 13, 2009, 07:36:07 AM
I'd go twice a month because the levels vary drastically. Mood swings are common and I really don't see how they can make a shot last all month. I don't even trust the 2 week thing. I do a shot weekly to keep the levels up and level.

Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Chloe on July 14, 2009, 02:19:20 AM
Quote from: Lori on July 13, 2009, 07:36:07 AMI don't even trust the 2 week thing. I do a shot weekly to keep the levels up and level.
To do it correctly bi-weekly is more like it, less more often is definitely better so get used to the idea of doing it yourself. I suppose it's quite understandable why doctors are reluctant to prescribe that way but if one thinks of IM's as having a 'half-life' just like administering a pill or patch the reasoning becomes obvious . . .

Do you like giving yourself shots (the buttocks being best by-the way)?
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Lori on July 14, 2009, 06:58:40 AM
Quote from: Kiera on July 14, 2009, 02:19:20 AM
To do it correctly bi-weekly is more like it, less more often is definitely better so get used to the idea of doing it yourself.

Do you like giving yourself shots (the buttocks being best by-the way)?

I'm having a difficult time deciphering that sentence I highlighted in red. Can you state it another way? Or explain to me what you meant?

Do I like giving myself shots? I don't really think about it in that light. I see it as it's going to turn me into a girl and I look forward to them. As far as physically doing it, I have no issues with wiping an alcohol patch on my butt and jamming a needle into it. I've done it so many times now Its just a thing I do on Friday's. Feed the cat, clean the kitchen, get my shot, answer email. Its like brushing my teeth. It is just something that needs to get done and it gets done. I don't like or dislike it. I like what it is doing to me.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Tristan on July 16, 2009, 09:45:32 PM
i agree with bi weekly. at the clinic i work at alot of the people on Hrt do bi weekly or weekly. monthly can be done but with more problemz with hormone levels
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Naturally Blonde on July 18, 2009, 04:50:25 AM
I wish I had the opportunity to try shots? in the U.K injectable HRT is not licenced and there are no outlets to purchase the stuff. I've only ever been on pills and patches but I think injectable HRT would work better?  :(

Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: flygirl82 on July 18, 2009, 08:19:49 PM
im a little older... just turned 27 so i told the dr. that I wanted to do shots because they are stronger and more effective by what i heard... so im trying to speed this process along a lil faster then normal if you know what i mean lol.    im extremly excited about this new chapter in my life.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Naturally Blonde on July 19, 2009, 03:19:07 AM
Quote from: ~Principessa Anabella~ on July 18, 2009, 08:19:49 PM
im a little older... just turned 27 so i told the dr. that I wanted to do shots because they are stronger and more effective by what i heard... so im trying to speed this process along a lil faster then normal if you know what i mean lol.    im extremly excited about this new chapter in my life.
You don't know how lucky you are in your country to have 'shots' licenced and readily available. Over here they are not licenced and I've had constant arguements with the authorities to get them over here.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: flygirl82 on July 19, 2009, 05:03:10 AM
Quote from: Naturally Blonde on July 19, 2009, 03:19:07 AM
You don't know how lucky you are in your country to have 'shots' licenced and readily available. Over here they are not licenced and I've had constant arguements with the authorities to get them over here.

what type of hormones are you taking? pills, patches or cream?  Can you maybe order them online from an out of country supplier, or is it illegal in your country.  I wonder why the authorities are so against hormones via injections??
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Tristan on July 19, 2009, 02:52:16 PM
i also take the shots. it makes me moody once the E levels strart to get low at the end of the week but yeah it works fast that way for me, people saw alot of changes in my face and body.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Naturally Blonde on July 20, 2009, 04:54:25 AM
Quote from: ~Principessa Anabella~ on July 19, 2009, 05:03:10 AM
what type of hormones are you taking? pills, patches or cream?  Can you maybe order them online from an out of country supplier, or is it illegal in your country.  I wonder why the authorities are so against hormones via injections??

I've been on pills, patches and Gel for 10 years and they don't seem to work for me. Injectable HRT is my last resort but in the U.K injecatables are not licenced. I don't know why you can't get them in this country but because of the red tape I will have to buy them from another country and hope they get through customs ok and then work out how to inject myself.

I think one of the anti - androgen's is legal in this country but illegal in the states, so different countries have different rules which make it very difficult for people who are in transition.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: lacitychick21 on July 21, 2009, 11:54:23 PM
I've done pellets (from 1 every 3mo, 4 mo, 6 mo, 1 year, 1.5 years), shots 1x/mo and 2x/mo, orals (sublingual and ingested) and different types of progesterone cycling and every combination in between. Now I'm on a Estro-patch/shot 2x/mo regimen.

After all that...My fav for convenience was pellets. For safe dosages, my fav is my patch/shot combo I'm on now. Personally, I didn't see much of a difference between 1x/mp and 2x/mo shots, but 1x was much better from a convenience standpoint.

In the end... I think they're just different ways of skinning a cat. Go with what's most convenient, comfortable, and affordable to you.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Naturally Blonde on July 22, 2009, 04:46:23 AM
Quote from: lacitychick21 on July 21, 2009, 11:54:23 PM
I've done pellets (from 1 every 3mo, 4 mo, 6 mo, 1 year, 1.5 years), shots 1x/mo and 2x/mo, orals (sublingual and ingested) and different types of progesterone cycling and every combination in between. Now I'm on a Estro-patch/shot 2x/mo regimen.

After all that...My fav for convenience was pellets. For safe dosages, my fav is my patch/shot combo I'm on now. Personally, I didn't see much of a difference between 1x/mp and 2x/mo shots, but 1x was much better from a convenience standpoint.

In the end... I think they're just different ways of skinning a cat. Go with what's most convenient, comfortable, and affordable to you.

Pellets are also not licenced in my country?
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: vanna on July 22, 2009, 04:51:45 AM
My Mother had pellets supplied on the NHS and then using her private health insurance when she went through menpoause

she complain they ran out too fast though
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Naturally Blonde on July 22, 2009, 08:28:34 AM
Quote from: Ms Delgado on July 22, 2009, 04:51:45 AM
My Mother had pellets supplied on the NHS and then using her private health insurance when she went through menpoause

she complain they ran out too fast though

Never heard of HRT pellets being accessed on the NHS. The only pellets I've found are on the NHS are anti - androgens like Zoladex.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: vanna on July 22, 2009, 09:00:36 AM
they were hrt, precribed at St Saviors hospital around 8 years ago we only had a long discussion the other day over it when she was inquiring my injectible doses so yes they are around if you look.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: lacitychick21 on July 22, 2009, 08:34:10 PM
Yeah... they are definitely around. Apparently, I had too many implanted and my estro levels skyrocketed. I didn't take any additional estrogen for more than a year and a half before my estro levels returned to numbers resembling normal.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Naturally Blonde on July 23, 2009, 01:10:38 AM
Quote from: lacitychick21 on July 22, 2009, 08:34:10 PM
Yeah... they are definitely around. Apparently, I had too many implanted and my estro levels skyrocketed. I didn't take any additional estrogen for more than a year and a half before my estro levels returned to numbers resembling normal.

I can't get HRT shots the legal way in the U.K for love or money. The NHS blankly refused as it's not licenced here so it looks like I might have to buy on line and pay the customs tax.

Quote from: Ms Delgado on July 22, 2009, 09:00:36 AM
they were hrt, precribed at St Saviors hospital around 8 years ago we only had a long discussion the other day over it when she was inquiring my injectible doses so yes they are around if you look.

I find that very hard to believe considering shots are not legal in the U.K but if there is an outlet for HRT shots in the U.K somewhere I'd like to know exactely where it is and how to access it?
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: vanna on July 23, 2009, 09:24:01 AM
you find it hard to believe?? lol i must be liar and never knew, you are a big girl you work it out my helping you in the past hasnt really been a huge success.

I am wishing you yours though
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Naturally Blonde on July 30, 2009, 03:31:43 AM
Quote from: Ms Delgado on July 23, 2009, 09:24:01 AM
you find it hard to believe?? lol i must be liar and never knew, you are a big girl you work it out my helping you in the past hasnt really been a huge success.

I am wishing you yours though

You are fully aware we can't get shots over here in England through the NHS as it's not licenced and if they are bought or ordered overseas they are sometimes seized at customs and a heavy tax duty is required on top of the original purchase. They do not make it easy for us over here.

If you are also from the U.K tell me about a retail outlet to buy injectable HRT who's products won't get seized at customs?  The NHS are against injectable HRT and will not provide any support regarding this medication.

I';ve also looked up St Saviors hospital which is in Kent and I'm on the case to find out if they have any information.

Post Merge: July 31, 2009, 07:09:10 AM

I checked out St Saviors hospital in Kent which is a private hospital and they have no knowledge or experience of either TG patients or injectable HRT. 
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: flygirl82 on August 09, 2009, 08:56:26 PM
ok so i had my first shot 2 weeks ago and all i have to say is ouch lol.  i opted for the 1 month shot as for right now im splitting my time between vegas and la. so its kinda difficult to manage a time to set up to go in bi weekly.  anyways my dr. opted not 2 give me spiro first month, and i will get my prescription for that on the 28.... so really i was under the impression that with just E shot and no spiro I wasnt going to see much if any changes.

boy was i wrong.  my nipples are swollen now especially in the morning when waking up.  and there are hard bumps behind them, and its rather sore to touch around them too. 

also my urine smells rather different lol

So im under the impression E alone is doing something, but still i cant wait to start spiro as im sure the effects would be more no?

Thanks for reading :)

Ana.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Tristan on August 10, 2009, 09:15:56 PM
and so it begins ms Anabella.lol
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Naturally Blonde on August 14, 2009, 02:38:21 AM
I wish I could get them. Injectable HRT is not licesed or sold in the U.K and I can't find anyone who has ever been on them over here. I've been told by forum members about 'In house pharmacy' off the Oz coast but I really would like to purchase this product closer to home. The import duty and tax is high for this type of purchase and all U.S members take this medication for granted.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: flygirl82 on August 17, 2009, 10:03:10 PM
to say all U.S. members take it for granted is rather uncalled for.  you keep posting you wish they where availiable, and clearly they arent based off of your numerous postings so the only route you will be able to go is inhouse or some online pharmacy or something, instead of coming online saying we take it all for granted and posting about it over and over.   there are products that arent availiable here in the united states that are there (androcur spl?)
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Chloe on August 18, 2009, 02:19:14 PM
Quote from: lacitychick21 on July 22, 2009, 08:34:10 PM
Yeah... they are definitely around. Apparently, I had too many implanted and my estro levels skyrocketed.

lol ;D Believe or not my father, old man like he is, has a pump subcutaneously implanted into his arm and he's under the impression it's estrogen and why he now more easily cries alot but somehow . . .

lol I think not! Good for one year and cost is $5,000 each, he's got prostrate cancer so best guess it's "casodex" which I also take for similar reasons.  ;)

Gee, now isn't that a coincidence, "like father like daughter" (although I'm not quite so sure he  understands / appreciates the full humor of this yet)!

Quote from: ~Principessa Anabella~ on August 09, 2009, 08:56:26 PMim splitting my time between vegas and la.
Hummm . . . being a good "northeast coast" girl myself are you saying yer 'aving MORE FUN? ??? According to tekla (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4698), who lives and works right next door to . . .

Quote from: ~Principessa Anabella~ on August 17, 2009, 10:03:10 PM. . . based off of your numerous postings . . . the only route you will be able to go is [censored] or some online pharmacy or something,
lol NOPE! silly girl . . . NB can't do that either, something 'bout "value tax", an extra "checkbox" and GB customs :eusa_naughty: GOD BLESS AMERICA! Active participate in every bloody male war going!  :(
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: flygirl82 on August 18, 2009, 08:02:40 PM
well being the silly girl that I am I just got the impression from her statement (that import duities are expensive and she would much rather get it closer to home) that she could get it that route... that route being the above "censored" one.  :P

and yeah vegas and l.a. are fun, NYC is next I think though, but im a chicagoan at heart lol.  ;)

and best wishes for your father, im sorry to hear of what he is going through.

ana.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Naturally Blonde on August 19, 2009, 02:26:52 PM
Quote from: ~Principessa Anabella~ on August 18, 2009, 08:02:40 PM
well being the silly girl that I am I just got the impression from her statement (that import duities are expensive and she would much rather get it closer to home) that she could get it that route... that route being the above "censored" one.  :P

ana.

Yes, I would rather find Aa supplier closer to home, maybe somewhere in europe? the in house pharmacy supplies from the australian coast. We do get heavy customs fees in the U.K and then more fees when the stuff is delivered.

I agree there are some things we get here that you can't get in the U.S like cypretone acitate. But I want to get on shots as I have never tried them and I'm at my lowest point because pills don't seem to be working for me.I'm sorry if I seem a moany guts but it is upsetting when I can't the basic medication I need and I've been in transition for 10 years.
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Chloe on August 19, 2009, 03:10:26 PM
Quote from: Naturally Blonde on August 19, 2009, 02:26:52 PM. . . sorry if I seem a moany guts but it is upsetting when I can't the basic medication I need and I've been in transition for 10 years.
NB, sorry too! Didn't mean to make light of yer situation. For a dinner and a "show around" - what city are you? - what do you think customs would say if an American visited for a night or two and . . .

lol brought you a 1/2 gallon? ;D
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Naturally Blonde on August 19, 2009, 03:25:52 PM
Quote from: Kiera on August 19, 2009, 03:10:26 PM
NB, sorry too! Didn't mean to make light of yer situation. For a dinner and a "show around" - what city are you? - what do you think customs would say if an American visited for a night or two and . . .

lol brought you a 1/2 gallon? ;D

I'm about 30 miles from London. I live out in the country but there is a good rail link into London. If you occasionally visit the U.K it may be a way round the situation for me?
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: flygirl82 on August 20, 2009, 04:03:21 AM
Quote from: Naturally Blonde on August 19, 2009, 02:26:52 PM
Yes, I would rather find Aa supplier closer to home, maybe somewhere in europe? the in house pharmacy supplies from the australian coast. We do get heavy customs fees in the U.K and then more fees when the stuff is delivered.

I agree there are some things we get here that you can't get in the U.S like cypretone acitate. But I want to get on shots as I have never tried them and I'm at my lowest point because pills don't seem to be working for me.I'm sorry if I seem a moany guts but it is upsetting when I can't the basic medication I need and I've been in transition for 10 years.

Im sorry too if I seemed out of line or rude.  I guess I too wouldnt be to pleased if I had been trying to get on shots for a while and being denied it simply because it isnt allowed in the country while it is so in others.  I wish I could help.  The pills arent doing anything at all? even taking them sublingual (spelling??)  And what does your dr. say in regards to this?
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Chloe on August 20, 2009, 08:50:33 AM
Quote from: ~Principessa Anabella~ on August 20, 2009, 04:03:21 AMAnd what does your dr. say in regards to this?

;D ;D lol er, which / what *often bloodsuckers like lawyers* doctor is that? lol thought we were talking [*censored*]!

Have two kids crazy wife *love to travel as often as possible* Heathrow Gatwick *non-stop short hop* from Atlanta, we'll keep in mind & prayers and work on it! In the meantime maybe we all need join Anabella~ on her north/south I-15 commute thru Ontario, San Bernardino Valley & Barstow (luv the desert, parents just sold house in Havasu City)!
Title: Re: introduction and question regards to hormone shots im starting soon
Post by: Naturally Blonde on August 21, 2009, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: ~Principessa Anabella~ on August 20, 2009, 04:03:21 AM
And what does your dr. say in regards to this?

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