Susan's Place Transgender Resources

Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: Jasonk16 on July 15, 2009, 11:40:00 PM

Title: Applying for a job
Post by: Jasonk16 on July 15, 2009, 11:40:00 PM
Im sure this question has been asked before but I need some opinions/answers soon.
I'm gonna be applying for a job and I was wondering if when you fill out the app. if you can check off male as your sex and not say a word to your boss or anyone about being trans...or do they need to see your birth certificate and such?

My name is legally changed to a male name, I'm on T and I pass 100% of the time.

I def. don't want to check female...but I also don't wanna leave it blank and explain later because they may see that as a simple thing that someone shouldn't miss but also telling them is REALLY scary.  :-\

I have anxiety issues...really bad and if I get called for a job interview it's gonna be my first ever so I'll be terrified.   :embarrassed:

Title: Re: Applying for a job
Post by: tekla on July 15, 2009, 11:44:36 PM
You need the documents, at least two for the I9, one is your SS Card, but the other one is going to have a gender on it most likely - a state ID/DL, passport, etc.

Title: Re: Applying for a job
Post by: Kayden on July 16, 2009, 12:54:02 AM
For the application process, if you're in the U.S., you are not required to check a sex/gender.  They will see it when they verify your ability to work legally.
Title: Re: Applying for a job
Post by: tekla on July 16, 2009, 01:43:10 AM
Yeah but to get hired, you need to fill out an I9 and prove you're eligibility to work - I know, I fill out about 20 a year in my line of work.

Here are the acceptable ones on a PDF that you can follow from this site.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=31b3ab0a43b5d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=31b3ab0a43b5d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD)

One of them will contain a gender marker.

Anyone can apply for jobs all they want, I assumed you really wanted to work and get paid.

List A
Documents that establish both identity and employment eligibility.

  1. U.S. Passport (unexpired or expired)
  2. Certificate of U.S. Citizenship (INS Form N-560 or N-561)
  3. Certificate of Naturalization (INS Form N-550 or N-570)
  4. Unexpired foreign passport, with I-551 stamp or attached INS Form I-94
      indicating unexpired employment authorization
  5. Alien Registration Receipt Card with photograph (INS Form I-151 or
      I-551)
  6. Unexpired Temporary Resident Card (INS Form I-688)
  7. Unexpired Employment Authorization Card (INS Form I-688A)
  8. Unexpired Reentry Permit (INS Form I-327)
  9. Unexpired Refugee Travel Document (INS Form I-571)
10. Unexpired Employment Authorization Document issued by the INS which
       contains a photograph (INS Form I-688B)

OR
List B
Documents that establish identity

  1. Driver's license or ID card issued by a state or outlying possession of the
      United States provided it contains a photograph or information such as
      name, date of birth, sex, height, eye color, and address
  2. ID card issued by federal, state or local government agencies or entities
      provided it contains a photograph or information such as name, date of
      birth, sex, height, eye color, and address
  3. School ID card with a photograph
  4. Voter's registration card
  5. U.S. Military card or draft record
  6. Military dependent's ID card
  7. U.S. Coast Guard Merchant Mariner Card
  8. Native American tribal document
  9. Driver's license issued by a Canadian government authority

For persons under age 18 who are unable to present a document listed above:
10. School record or report card
11. Clinic, doctor, or hospital record
12. Day-care or nursery school record

AND
List C
Documents that establish employment eligibility

1. U.S. social security card issued by the Social Security Administration
     (other than a card stating it is not valid for employment)
2. Certification of Birth Abroad issued by the Department of State (Form
      FS-545 or Form DS-1350)
3. Original or certified copy of a birth certificate issued by a state, county,
      municipal authority or outlying possession of the United States bearing an
      official seal
4. Native American tribal document
5. U.S. Citizen ID Card (INS Form I-197)
6. ID Card for use of Resident Citizen in the United States (INS Form I-179)
7. Unexpired employment authorization document issued by the INS (other
      than those listed under List A)



Title: Re: Applying for a job
Post by: GQjoey on July 16, 2009, 03:46:50 AM
Since I was 18, I've always checked off M. And never had a problem with it. They either don't care enough to ask, or are too confused to do so. They just make a copy of your SS and ID and that's that.
First job I ever had, where it asked if you have ever been known by another name, I put my birth name, and still checked off the M. I worked for a delivery company driving trucks, the owner was as redneck as they come, and he never blinked an eye. At least not in my presence.
Title: Re: Applying for a job
Post by: alexkidd on July 16, 2009, 05:52:54 AM
My last two casual jobs I ticked M - my drivers licence and everything says Male now. One of them wanted to see my birth certificate - it has me listed as female and my old girl name. I showed it to the manager and it the same sentence showed him my change of name certificate and just said it's Mr Alex R******* - he didnt even blink, just said no worries Alex - thanks for bringing it in.
Easy as.
The other job didnt even ask to see my birth certificate and since everything else says Male already it was no issues
Title: Re: Applying for a job
Post by: Camden on July 18, 2009, 01:31:56 AM
i just got my license changed this week but before i would just check male, and then when I had to hand over my license for something like credit check or background check, I just said there is an error on my license and I have a court date to rectify it and nothing was EVER said about it. Got the job and the house...no questions asked.
Title: Re: Applying for a job
Post by: Jasonk16 on July 18, 2009, 02:16:59 AM
Quote from: Camden on July 18, 2009, 01:31:56 AM
i just got my license changed this week but before i would just check male, and then when I had to hand over my license for something like credit check or background check, I just said there is an error on my license and I have a court date to rectify it and nothing was EVER said about it. Got the job and the house...no questions asked.


you got the sex changed on ur license?
howd u do that?
Title: Re: Applying for a job
Post by: Camden on August 17, 2009, 12:19:32 AM
I'm in California and just had my "t" Dr. fill out a form and took it to DMV the next day. Couldn't have been easier, I guess the catch can be if the doctor puts "in transition" rather than "completed" transition. It was easy.
Title: Re: Applying for a job
Post by: Mister on August 17, 2009, 12:58:04 AM
Unless you've changed your gender with social security, putting 'M' on your work documents will cause social security to issue a 'no-match' letter, prompting an inquiry into your file. 
Title: Re: Applying for a job
Post by: sneakersjay on August 17, 2009, 07:31:37 AM
Quote from: Mister on August 17, 2009, 12:58:04 AM
Unless you've changed your gender with social security, putting 'M' on your work documents will cause social security to issue a 'no-match' letter, prompting an inquiry into your file.

Mister beat me to it.


Jay