Hahah..don't you just hate it when your trying to be the guy that you are..and then estrogen kicks in and turns you into a sissy?
Quote from: Sir Kyle on August 09, 2009, 11:39:59 PM
Hahah..don't you just hate it when your trying to be the guy that you are..and then estrogen kicks in and turns you into a sissy?
I blame everything on estrogen poisoning. :laugh:
So the answer would be a resounding "yes".
Yeah... Estrogen sucks! You're feeling OK then all of a sudden... BAM!!! The Red Death comes. It does make it hard to be yourself, but I guess we're just gonna have to deal. :-\
Quote from: The Unforgiven on August 09, 2009, 11:52:21 PM
Yeah... Estrogen sucks! You're feeling OK then all of a sudden... BAM!!! The Red Death comes. It does make it hard to be yourself, but I guess we're just gonna have to deal. :-\
the red death...hmm... that shall not be missed.
I so look forward to never seeing that again too. wonder how long it will take.
If you have asked this yesterday or a few hours ago. I would have say yes. E sucks (along with the whole hormonal cocktail x_x) Right now its more of a meh.
Boys I will take all of it. Anytime.
Janet
Quote from: Janet Lynn on August 10, 2009, 12:22:45 AM
Boys I will take all of it. Anytime.
Janet
I would donate, if I could. ;)
Quote from: Janet Lynn on August 10, 2009, 12:22:45 AM
Boys I will take all of it. Anytime.
Janet
ALL of it? O.O
Ok I'll share some with you, Heartwood.
Janet
Quote from: Janet Lynn on August 10, 2009, 12:58:37 AM
Ok I'll share some with you, Heartwood.
Janet
Thanks! But that's not what I meant. :P
Even if we split it in half, all the estrogen from all the transmales from this site would be like 50x what the human body is made for. o.o
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Although, seriously, we'd probobly die.
Not if it could be rationed over time. Then no menopause, which I would not mind.
Sorry for the hijack, Gentlemen.
Janet
Quote from: Janet Lynn on August 10, 2009, 01:06:13 AM
Not if it could be rationed over time. Then no menopause, which I would not mind.
Sorry for the hijack, Gentlemen.
Janet
Yes, but you'd still end up with estrogen piling up faster then you could consume it.
We could always sell it on the black market, I'm sure somebody out there would like to buy it. :D
Uh... yeah, I mean "ESTROGEN IS TEH SUXXORZ" Carry on, guys. :P
Acually, I'm not sure what you mean as "Estrogen turns you into a sissy." My womanly pride isn't offended or anything, I'm just curious as to what you mean. :P
Quote from: Heartwood on August 10, 2009, 01:13:41 AM
Yes, but you'd still end up with estrogen piling up faster then you could consume it.
We could always sell it on the black market, I'm sure somebody out there would like to buy it. :D
Uh... yeah, I mean "ESTROGEN IS TEH SUXXORZ" Carry on, guys. :P
Acually, I'm not sure what you mean as "Estrogen turns you into a sissy." My womanly pride isn't offended or anything, I'm just curious as to what you mean. :P
You girls are hilarious.
I guess it might be the spontaneous crying, or the whining in agony because of menstrual cramps... Hrm. I think there are many reasons. :laugh:
Quote from: Heartwood on August 10, 2009, 01:13:41 AMAcually, I'm not sure what you mean as "Estrogen turns you into a sissy." My womanly pride isn't offended or anything, I'm just curious as to what you mean. :P
You can be in happy land then PMS comes. Surprise (if you forgot the dates) and poof (depending on your typical reactions) crying spells. Body pain (of several types) mood swings (cant get more girly than mood swings) You feel crappy, you feel down and weak. Oh and you might turn into a bitch.
Quote from: Zelane on August 10, 2009, 01:28:58 AM
You can be in happy land then PMS comes. Surprise (if you forgot the dates) and poof (depending on your typical reactions) crying spells. Body pain (of several types) mood swings (cant get more girly than mood swings) You feel crappy, you feel down and weak. Oh and you might turn into a bitch.
Although I do ask I now be referred to as a bastard. :)
But altogether, very much so - and it's quite terrible.
Quote from: Janet Lynn on August 10, 2009, 12:22:45 AM
Boys I will take all of it. Anytime.
I'll give you my erstwhile cramps (it's been a few years since my "red-headed cousin" came for a visit) if I can have your prostate (erstwhile or otherwise).
Quote from: Adrian on August 10, 2009, 01:31:48 AM
Although I do ask I now be referred to as a bastard. :)
But altogether, very much so - and it's quite terrible.
Adrian, you bastard. :) Happy?
I thought that might be a good question to ask back there, because it gave you guys an opening for what this thread seems to be about: Manly whineing. :P
...We'll still take it though. Seriously.
Quote from: Adrian on August 10, 2009, 01:31:48 AM
Although I do ask I now be referred to as a bastard. :)
But altogether, very much so - and it's quite terrible.
Yikes, sorry yeah my mistake. I put it on girl terms (since the one asking was a girl) Anyway sorry but it still starts with B...
Quote from: Heartwood on August 10, 2009, 02:05:51 AM
Adrian, you bastard. :) Happy?
I thought that might be a good question to ask back there, because it gave you guys an opening for what this thread seems to be about: Manly whineing. :P
...We'll still take it though. Seriously.
Why, thank you, Heartwood. ;D
Quote from: Zelane on August 10, 2009, 02:16:19 AM
Yikes, sorry yeah my mistake. I put it on girl terms (since the one asking was a girl) Anyway sorry but it still starts with B...
Oh, no worries! I was just joking around.
I think one of the worst parts is that you have to go to work and live life with pain that would knock a lot of people into bed and stand when your body wants to curl and die. Walk when your body is trying to stay still so the pain will ebb just a bit. Then you just want to clobber the first person that asks if your OK.
I hate it..
Lately,.. I've been having "collapse in to tears" moments a lot more often than I'm remotely comfortable with.
In fact.. I think I'll be going off the contraceptive pill in an attempt to reduce it..
Here's to hoping it doesn't come back to bite me..
Estrogen makes you cuckoo. BTDT.
No offense, ladies. Maybe estrogen makes men cuckoo, and testosterone makes ladies cuckoo. When we get on our proper hormones we feel so much better!
But estrogen still makes ladies cuckoo, too.
::ducking and running::
Jay
So where's that one transman that disagrees? I still can't find him.
Estrogen is certainly making me look rather like a sissy. It's interfering with my running as well. Don't like being inexplicaby cranky either. Or bleeding out of genitals, as far as I'm concerned it's never a good sign.
It might just be me, but it feels like my brain is running on drugs. We'll see if I feel any better sans E.
SilverFang
I'm fairly certain that estrogen messed with my brain and gave me my mood disorder. But my depression started at menarche, a time that is emotionally horrifying for a teenage transman anyway...so who knows for sure how much of my depression was caused by hormones and how much by gender dysphoria.
I also pointed out to a buddy a few years ago that my mood improved considerably when I got well into perimenopause and my female hormone levels dropped. And he said, "Well, you must have been pretty happy when you stopped having your period."
Well, yes, I was. Deep in the closet, even to myself (only to myself?), and thinking, "I'm closer to being a man!"
I remember hearing the saying 'never trust something that bleeds for five days and doesn't die" hahahahaha :)
It sucks big time. I end up eating about 5-10 blocks of chocolate and copious amounts of other junk and still feel like crap. I hate that my depressions and dysphoria becomes really bad the week before. Like the glass is half empty, and its cracked, and I cut my lip and chipped a tooth...
Cheers
Jay
Quote from: jaydle83 on August 10, 2009, 11:53:42 AM
I remember hearing the saying 'never trust something that bleeds for five days and doesn't die" hahahahaha :)
It sucks big time. I end up eating about 5-10 blocks of chocolate and copious amounts of other junk and still feel like crap. I hate that my depressions and dysphoria becomes really bad the week before. Like the glass is half empty, and its cracked, and I cut my lip and chipped a tooth...
Cheers
Jay
I love that saying! :laugh:
I, for one, always feel irritable, cranky, and fatigued. It elevates horribly before that time of the month. I wonder if the proper hormone will do my brain justice.
Only 9?
Yes. Estrogen does suck. I just thoroughly enjoy how when the Red Death comes I get extra irritable and more apt to cry that my brother says rude comments about how "womanly" I really am.
Love the stereotyping sibling because of something in my body I can't control
/endsarcasm
Edit: I love your imhappyplz picture, Heartwood XD
Hell yes it sucks. The swings are bad enough, the copious bleeding is downright traumatizing, but the ABSOLUTE worst is the crying at work when someone pisses you off and you just *can't* help it, no matter how much you wish you could, and so you get frustrated with yourself, which brings the galldanged waterworks pouring even harder... *Right* in front of all the people you WISH would take you seriously as a guy and stop "lumping" you in with all the so-called "other" girls... Brutal, agonizing, downward spiral it is. :icon_burn: :icon_burn: :icon_burn: :icon_burn:
A couple of months ago i was having dosage issues... and holy hell i was in the crabbiest mood ever. Glad that sorted itself out.
I'm one of those 9
transmen aren't the only who think estrogen sucks!
I know guys who have estrogen phobia, afraid of it being too high!
They are avoiding soy products!!! :O
Quote from: sneakersjay on August 10, 2009, 08:06:14 AM
Estrogen makes you cuckoo. BTDT.
No offense, ladies. Maybe estrogen makes men cuckoo, and testosterone makes ladies cuckoo. When we get on our proper hormones we feel so much better!
But estrogen still makes ladies cuckoo, too.
::ducking and running::
Jay
I find that people are generally cuckoo wheather they are on hormones or not.
Ahh, I can associate....only the other direction lol. I can be very volatile on T....><
Being on E for a bit in the past, I was still volatile, and in some cases more, but mainly cause I had more than just gender issues, I was suffering from depression. But yeah, E in general calmed me down, killed the storm in my mind.
Quote from: Heartwood on August 12, 2009, 02:03:05 AM
I find that people are generally cuckoo wheather they are on hormones or not.
I agree :laugh:
Sorry for continued hijacking of this thread ^^;
Testosterone is just as bad. Except you be come the Incredible Hulk when angry.
I'll swap any time gentlemen, a n y t i m e.
Now back to our host.......................
Janet
I suspect that E is harder on transmen since we have male brains and T is harder for transwomen because they have female brains. A brain being flooded with a hormone not meant to be dominant is bound to cause problems.
BTW who is this 10th guy? :icon_blink:
Yeah, I'd like to meet this 10th guy that actually likes E. ??? :P
I'm beginning to wonder if my anxiety in early childhood started because of a flood of estrogen in my system, particularly when I neared puberty. Or it may have been situational, being that I was living in the wrong role. It got a lot worse once my younger brother was born.
Alright, alright... I'll be that tenth and admit that I like E.
... Just not in my body, thanks. ;D
Well I am glad to be free of that. The red deathed stopped the first month I was on a full dose. 1/2 dose did nothing to get rid of it.
Myles
*looks jealously at all you guys who get to live even a little bit normal*
Red Death for me it's not usually a big problem (well, I hate it, but I can handle), except last time that my period came. I was in bed with my boyfriend and when I discovered it I really had a panic attack. :'(
But one or two days before Red Death, I usually get an enormous depression. It's because of the estrogen and feminine hormones that go up and down, they drive me crazy.
Yes, estrogen sucks. >:(
I think its safe to say motion seconded... thirded etc and finally motion carried. Yeah this 1 guy out of 10 that likes it can't be real... its just gotta be one of those phantom like statistics, like on here where I post like 2.36389 messages per day you know... Its BS.
Cheers
Jay
Quote from: CodyJess on August 12, 2009, 04:51:13 PM
Alright, alright... I'll be that tenth and admit that I like E.
... Just not in my body, thanks. ;D
I was thinking the same thing. I like E... in women. ;)