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Title: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: Nero on August 18, 2009, 04:46:17 PM
Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today and less people smiled at me - a good sign?
hey, i know it's pathetic, but I take what i can get.
Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: Sarah Louise on August 18, 2009, 04:48:16 PM
Holding the door open for men or women (especially those older than yourself) used to be a common curtesy.  It is dying out, but it does still happen.

Sarah L.
Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: Radar on August 18, 2009, 06:10:43 PM
Quote from: Sarah Louise on August 18, 2009, 04:48:16 PM
Holding the door open for men or women (especially those older than yourself) used to be a common curtesy.  It is dying out, but it does still happen.

Sarah L.

Agreed, although in the U.S. South you still see it alot. I even open doors for men alot. Sometimes they want me to go in first instead but I insist. I'm such a gentleman. Sometimes. Kind of. :icon_confused2:
Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: Deanna_Renee on August 18, 2009, 06:17:30 PM
Hey Nero, don't be upset on the (increasingly rare) occasion that someone holds the door open for you. I always hold the door for people - too many years in restaurant management. It's either a sign that you are either looking like a kid, man, or people around you are just being rude. I'm hoping its the second, with a mix of the first.

Deanna
Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: tekla on August 18, 2009, 06:18:44 PM
I'd always suspect 'rude' as a prime reason.  In SF people hold doors open for everyone all the time, its manners, not gender.
Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: Michelle. on August 18, 2009, 09:24:48 PM
I can understand not stoping and holding open the door, doorman style.

What irks me is when some teeny-bopper or wanna be thug dosen't even bother to prevent the door from closing when I'm three steps behind them.
Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: Janet_Girl on August 18, 2009, 09:29:25 PM
Holding the door for the person behind is Just common curtsy to my mind, regardless of age.

But, Little Brother, are you getting the head nod from guys, yet?  Like 'What's up, Dude?'

Janet
Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: tekla on August 18, 2009, 09:29:36 PM
That's when you reach out and fling the door shut and smack them to the ground from the rear.  It's funny.  Really.
Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: Michelle. on August 18, 2009, 09:39:22 PM
Dang that door has a tight spring!!!
Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: Suzy on August 18, 2009, 09:46:08 PM
What I want to know, big guy, is if you held the door for anyone else. ;)

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Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: V M on August 18, 2009, 09:47:04 PM
Holding the door for others is somewhat common courtesy where I live. But mostly for women. I love it. Some guys go out of their way to open the door for me sometimes  :laugh:

Almost all the guys give everyone the "cowboy nod" where I live
Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: Vancha on August 19, 2009, 02:34:33 PM
I'm the one who opens the door at the movie theatre for the person behind me... And then the person behind them... And so on and so forth.  I will sometimes stand there until the whole theatre is empty, without meaning to at all.  :laugh:  I hold open doors for men, women, kids... Anyone.  But what bothers me is that they don't have the courtesy to at least mutter a "thanks", which I always do.

It may be rudeness, but it could be that they are less likely to open a door for a man, which is sometimes true.  Other guys don't want to seem gay by opening a door for you.  ;D
Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: Chamillion on August 19, 2009, 04:33:23 PM
Idk, I noticed more people holding the door for me when I started being read as male, probably because now I look like I'm just any other guy, rather than standing out as different when I was being read as female.

When I say "holding the door" I don't mean people standing behind the door and letting me walk through, I mean people opening it themselves and stretching their arm behind them so the door doesn't shut in my face.  I'm from the east coast, people don't hold doors here.
Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: GamerJames on August 19, 2009, 04:37:03 PM
Whether it's gender, rudeness, or something else entirely, I gotta admit, it bugs me when guys hold the door for me too, IF it's a situation where they wouldn't hold the door for another guy. And I almost NEVER have had a woman hold the door for me in those situations (maybe it's just the culture around here, idk). Plus, in the elevators at work, the guys let the girls out first even if they have to step outta their way to do it. I have not seen them do that for other guys. The days that they don't look at me and wait for me to get off first (or say "go ahead" with a courteous smile) are the days I feel like I'm passing alright.

And I hold doors open for everyone regardless of gender in SOME situations, but you gotta admit people, there are some situations where holding the door for the next person is just courteous, and some situations where you're going out of your way to let all the ladies go first or whatnot. That's where the difference lies in my opinion. If you're holding the door just that little bit more as you go through it, that's courtesy and applicable no matter the gender. If you're holding the door open and stepping out of the way while the other person goes first, in my opinion, that's a different level of courtesy reserved for men being gentlemanly towards women.

For instance, when I drive a friend somewhere, if it's a gal, I'll go to her door, unlock it and hold it open, then go get in my side. If it's a guy friend I wouldn't dream of doing that. I just unlock the car from my side and they open their door and get in at the same time I do. Call me sexist if you wish, but the women I've done that for all appreciate the "courtesy" of it, and I can guarantee you the men I hang with would think it was messed up if I did that for them. Just how my friends are? Maybe, but I think it's more along the lines of "some courtesies are for everyone, some are just for women"...

And... commence veggie-flinging. ;)
Title: Re: Fewer people held the door open for me than usual today - a good sign?
Post by: V M on August 19, 2009, 04:40:15 PM
Quote from: Adrian on August 19, 2009, 02:34:33 PM
  :laugh:  I hold open doors for men, women, kids... Anyone.  But what bothers me is that they don't have the courtesy to at least mutter a "thanks", which I always do.

I always smile and say Thank You. I wouldn't feel right if I didn't