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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: JonasCarminis on August 19, 2009, 06:55:28 PM

Title: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: JonasCarminis on August 19, 2009, 06:55:28 PM
hey everyone. :)

im on the "standard dose" of T shots and my doctor has put me on T cream (along with the shots).  she told me to watch out for signs that my T was too high, but i want to make sure i catch them.

right now all i can think of is anger.  :/
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Mister on August 19, 2009, 06:57:09 PM
anger is only a side effect if yoru T dose is hundreds of times too high.

as for physical signs, there is typically nothing you can detect without a blood test.  not sure what your doctor wants you to watch for.
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: JonasCarminis on August 19, 2009, 07:01:03 PM
Quote from: Mister on August 19, 2009, 06:57:09 PM
...not sure what your doctor wants you to watch for.

maybe she doesnt know either.  lol  im the first person shes doing this with.  i want to try too of course, im not just letting her do little experiments on me.
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Radar on August 19, 2009, 07:27:41 PM
Are your T levels low so she's put you on injection and cream? I find it concerning if she doesn't know "high T level signs" but wants you to.
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Dennis on August 19, 2009, 07:37:22 PM
High blood pressure is all that comes to mind, and that doesn't happen in everyone, just some seem to be sensitive to the effects of T and get increased bp. My T was off the charts post-hysto and my blood pressure was fine. Oh, but I was hornier than a many-peckered billy goat most of the time. Maybe that's what she means.

Dennis
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: sneakersjay on August 19, 2009, 08:04:16 PM
My second T level was 1200, and the doc said that was too high, and lowered my dose.  Last check it was 700.  I haven't noticed any difference either before it got high, or after.  Other than having a higher cholesterol, and the standard wanted side effects, haven't had any effects.

I'm getting it checked again next month so we'll see where I'm at.

Jay
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: JonasCarminis on August 19, 2009, 08:06:34 PM
Quote from: Radar on August 19, 2009, 07:27:41 PM
Are your T levels low so she's put you on injection and cream?

no, im on cream to rub on m junk so that more converts to DHT.  were doing a little experiment.
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: tekla on August 19, 2009, 08:10:14 PM
I was hornier than a many-peckered billy goat most of the time.

You say that like its a bad thing.
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: JonasCarminis on August 19, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
Quote from: Dennis on August 19, 2009, 07:37:22 PM
Oh, but I was hornier than a many-peckered billy goat most of the time. Maybe that's what she means.

i already am like that.  probably because im a teen though.
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Lachlann on August 20, 2009, 12:42:53 AM
Quote from: Josh on August 19, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
i already am like that.  probably because im a teen though.
Yeah, at your age I wouldn't worry about it.
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Alyx. on August 20, 2009, 02:12:21 AM
If you turn green, grow muscles, and get taller, it's too high.
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Jamie-o on August 20, 2009, 05:20:06 AM
Given that T has a tendency to estrify when the levels get too high, I would say also be on the look out for signs of feminization.  I suspect the most likely signs would be spotting and PMS-like moodiness. (You've not had hysto, as I recall, right?)

Quote from: Heartwood on August 20, 2009, 02:12:21 AM
If you turn green, grow muscles, and get taller, it's too high.

Heh heh.  And don't forget about your eyes turning silver, and your hair getting all shaggy.   ;)
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Lachlann on August 20, 2009, 05:22:13 AM
Hmm, now I have a question.

Do they check up on your testosterone levels all the time? Like do they expect you to check in for appointments?
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Jamie-o on August 20, 2009, 05:41:22 AM
Well, I was originally asked to come in after 2 months to check levels, and since they are normal (albeit verging on a little high) I'm supposed to check in again in 4 months.  I don't know how often my doc will want to check them after that, though.
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: JonasCarminis on August 20, 2009, 06:16:32 AM
due to shot anxiety, i havnt been on a stable dose since i started, so it hasnt really been possible to check my levels (and have them be acurate).

i want to be on time with my shots for 4 weeks before checking my levels.

i was supposed to have them checked at 3 months. :/  if i do my shot before bed, i'll be on time for the 3rd week in a row, then if i do my 4th shot, i'll go in to have my levels checked.  i suspect they'll be high because of the cream thrown in.
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Mister on August 20, 2009, 08:27:00 AM
Quote from: Monty on August 20, 2009, 05:22:13 AM
Hmm, now I have a question.

Do they check up on your testosterone levels all the time? Like do they expect you to check in for appointments?

Yes.  The typical blood work schedule goes something like this: Pre-T, 3 mo, 6 mo & every six months after that, unless there's some type of issue.
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Silver on August 21, 2009, 02:20:50 AM
Feminization? There isn't any potential for breast/hip growth, so I'd say water retention and weight gain. Just a guess here. The danger with high T is aromatization, the body won't allow enough to cause problems to be circulating at once.

SilverFang
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: JonasCarminis on August 21, 2009, 03:23:14 AM
Quote from: SilverFang on August 21, 2009, 02:20:50 AM
...The danger with high T is aromatization...

you mean im going to smell?
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Myself on August 21, 2009, 09:25:37 AM
Quote from: Josh on August 21, 2009, 03:23:14 AM
you mean im going to smell?

No, it means testosterone starts converting into estrogen!
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: JonasCarminis on August 21, 2009, 05:27:56 PM
thats called estrifying...
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Dennis on August 21, 2009, 06:11:06 PM
Quote from: tekla on August 19, 2009, 08:10:14 PM
I was hornier than a many-peckered billy goat most of the time.

You say that like its a bad thing.

Oh hell no, was rather entertaining, if a bit distracting in court...

Oh, and T converting to estrogen is also called aromatization. I've not heard estrifying before, but aromatization is a term applied to any chemical reaction where hydrocarbons are converted (either aromatic to non-aromatic or the other way around, I forget). The enzyme involved is aromatase.

Couldn't find estrify as a word on google.

Dennis
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Jamie-o on August 21, 2009, 11:17:19 PM
Quote from: Dennis on August 21, 2009, 06:11:06 PM
Couldn't find estrify as a word on google.

I may very well have made that word up.  I do that sometimes, in the tradition of Shakespeare, Marlow, Johnson, Joyce ...  ;D

But if it isn't a word, it should be.  ;)
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Myself on August 21, 2009, 11:19:14 PM
Quote from: Jamie-o on August 21, 2009, 11:17:19 PM
I may very well have made that word up.  I do that sometimes.  ;D

But if it isn't a word, it should be.  ;)

I was just about to say the same! :D
That word doesn't really exist, it was made in here.

"Aromatase is an enzyme that is responsible for a key step in the biosynthesis of estrogens"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromatase (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromatase)

They generally convert testosterone into estrogens.
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Jay on August 24, 2009, 01:27:20 PM
Anger was my biggest sign.. and coming on my period too... as too much of the good stuff gets turned back into the bad stuff I was informed :-( Also it doesn't bring on the effects any quicker..

Jay
Title: Re: what are signs that your T is too high?
Post by: Silver on August 25, 2009, 05:51:46 AM
Quote from: Jamie-o on August 21, 2009, 11:17:19 PM
But if it isn't a word, it should be.  ;)

"Bouncebackability" is in the Oxford dictionary. Enough said.

SilverFang