Is it true that even though you can feel like a man on the inside, the testosterone makes you feel more like one biologically? Since I lack t I feel like a female and i hate it.
There are periods where I think hormones can affect how you feel. Myself and several other ftms I know go through moments were you feel more feminine. Sometimes I think it's hormones, others could be a reaction to a situation where you're seen as a woman and falling back into the female personna.
What does it "feel" like to be a female?
What do you think it would "feel" like to be a man?
I second what HeatherRose said, but I can certainly tell you that after being on T for awhile, you obviously LOOK like any other guy, and at that point, you begin to feel like any other guy, as well. Even though I still have breasts, I don't feel much different from other guys now. Also, the absence of the monthly curse helps quite a bit.
SD
To answer heatherroses question I hate it because its not who i am inside.
Yeah..i think I have my period. Three cheers for the red death!
When you started on T did you notice what I call "The Edge of Rage"?
Kind of like a welling up of hot, raw nerve, emotion.
Do you find yourself creating little confrontations in your
head and imagining how you could fight your way out of them?
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Quote from: Kyle :3 on September 06, 2009, 07:53:33 PMTo answer heatherroses question...
I didn't ask how you felt about it. I want you
to describe want it feels like to be a woman.
Quote from: heatherrose on September 06, 2009, 08:01:53 PM
When you started on T did you notice what I call "The Edge of Rage"?
Kind of like a welling up of hot, raw nerve, emotion.
Do you find yourself creating little confrontations in your
head and imagining how you could fight your way out of them?
Well I am not on t yet but my testosterone level is a little higher than most females so I have facial hair and my ring finger is longer than my index finger. I do have little fights in my head sometimes. Its very weird I can hear screaming
Post Merge: September 06, 2009, 07:11:37 PM
Oh to answer your real question I feel like because of my breasts and legs I feel like a shrimpy gross little women. I hate it because Im not a woman inside.
Quote from: heatherrose on September 06, 2009, 08:01:53 PM
When you started on T did you notice what I call "The Edge of Rage"?
Kind of like a welling up of hot, raw nerve, emotion.
Do you find yourself creating little confrontations in your
head and imagining how you could fight your way out of them?
Me? Not in the slightest. My "edge of rage" was every time the curse came. When I got on T, I became far calmer than ever before.
SD
Quote from: Kyle :3 on September 06, 2009, 08:10:29 PM...Im not a woman inside.
Fair enough, what do you think it feels like to be a man?
Quote from: Sebastien on September 06, 2009, 08:15:37 PMNot in the slightest.
The reason I asked is, others have mentioned they have gained an overall feeling of "power".
When I started on spironolactone I noticed a considerable calming of my "Edge of Rage".
Thus I thought it might have been a result of my testosterone poisoning.
Thanx for your answer.
Quote from: Sebastien on September 06, 2009, 08:15:37 PM
Me? Not in the slightest. My "edge of rage" was every time the curse came. When I got on T, I became far calmer than ever before.
SD
me neither. oddly, I'm actually a lot calmer and more sensitive to people's feelings. people keep commenting on it. I was much more likely to 'go off' on people before T.
Notice I said I experienced a considerable calming of my "Edge of Rage".
and not that it was gone. I was considerably more volatile
while under the influence of testoserone.
I think there is something in the hormone balance that affects my perception of gender and femininity-masculinity. This past week I felt really fem inside, like my mones were skyrocketing to deadly levels. Headaches, emotionalness, etc.. even 'shocks' in my brain. all this E makes my head hurt :S
I definitely feel less rage and more even now that I am on T. As far as what a women feels like and what a man feels like, Well on E while presenting as a women I never felt like I really was one jut trying to be one, so I am not sure if I could say what it feels like to be a women.
If that makes any sense
Myles
I think the anger is because it is the wrong hormone for us. I feel like I was meant to have t in my body. I cant wait until I finally have the right hormone
Quote from: heatherrose on September 06, 2009, 08:01:53 PM
When you started on T did you notice what I call "The Edge of Rage"?
Kind of like a welling up of hot, raw nerve, emotion.
Do you find yourself creating little confrontations in your
head and imagining how you could fight your way out of them?
That's how I felt much of the time
before T. :D I really do think there is something to the notion that T-people have hormones that don't match their brains. It seems that no matter which way you go, getting on hormones that match your identity makes you calmer and happier.
Quote from: heatherrose on September 06, 2009, 08:01:53 PM
When you started on T did you notice what I call "The Edge of Rage"?
Kind of like a welling up of hot, raw nerve, emotion.
Do you find yourself creating little confrontations in your
head and imagining how you could fight your way out of them?
As the some of the other gentlemen here have said, I had this feeling quite frequently pre-T, but much less of it once I started T. For many years, I would sit at my desk at school everyday and imagine all kinds of confrontations from which I would emerge victorious, ranging from fierce verbal sparring matches with people that know to fantastic battles against legions of imaginary enemies whom I defeat single-handedly in the most violent manner (and for some reason I was always had more muscle, height, and facial hair and come to think of it, breast-less ;) ). Once I started T, however, the frequency of these imaginings has decreased from several times a day to once in a blue moon. T has really taken the edge
off of my rage.
Quote from: Jamie-o on September 06, 2009, 10:38:14 PM
That's how I felt much of the time before T. :D I really do think there is something to the notion that T-people have hormones that don't match their brains. It seems that no matter which way you go, getting on hormones that match your identity makes you calmer and happier.
I am not on T, I do not have facial hair, my ring finger is shorter than my index finger. I have a pretty girly face / body, unfortunately. Not more than average, but it is feminine. But whatever this "estrogen" is, it makes me extremely volatile, aggressive and has me steaming with vehemence for the smallest things. I think T may indeed calm me. Or it will get worse, and then I'll be in for something bad.
Quote from: heatherrose on September 06, 2009, 08:01:53 PM
When you started on T did you notice what I call "The Edge of Rage"?
Kind of like a welling up of hot, raw nerve, emotion.
Do you find yourself creating little confrontations in your
head and imagining how you could fight your way out of them?
Seems I'm going to be echoing a few of the guys here. The rage has subdued itself. The last time I felt that all-consuming anger post-T was also the last time I experienced the red death (my anger and
that tended to coincide). And I hadn't thought about it, but I've not been creating confrontations in my head nearly as much as I used to. I'm surprised I didn't make more of a note of their absence, considering how much I used to run violent scenarios through my head.
I will say that I am more willing to speak up for myself now. Not sure if that's strictly due to the T or because I have more confidence and am gaining something that may actually be a sense of self-worth.
A guy who had been working in an andrology clinic for 20 or so years came to speak to our FTM group one night.
One of the things he said, is that the brain has to be "running on the right fuel" to function properly. It's common for T people to feel much calmer and think more clearly after starting HRT, and he's seen it happen with pretty much every FTM that's walked in the door (apparently part of their monitoring is asking you a series of questions about your mental wellbeing and any mental changes before each shot).
He said this may be due to the hormone levels being monitored and tweaked, and the same "relief" thing happens to genetic men with hormone imbalances that they treat.
Apparently, a surprisingly large number of cis-people have hormone imbalances at some stage in their lives too, and "it's a pity they just see it as normal, because they'd feel and function so much better if they got it seen to".
It's nice to know I'm not the only one who rages out! I think it's part mental, part hormonal. I know for me, things got a heap better when started doing the social side of transition, but there are still times when I feel the E levels spike and go all weird (I refuse to say girly. I don't go girly. I go weird).
Mentally speaking, my "weird" is a mix of rage, self doubt, mental "fog" (unable to think straight or concentrate), depression, emotional instability coupled with much stronger emotions and social phobia. Also, my self confidence takes a massive dive.
It is horrible. It was worse on E and T blockers (and they weren't even that strong, apparently) - I honestly thought it was permanant, there was no way out. After all, I was being told I had normal female hormones now, and this was "how I was supposed to be feeling"! The last remnants of my semi-rational mind had me ready to eat a lead lunch at cafe barrel.
That's what my brain equates with "being and feeling female". I'm sure MTF's have a similar association with T and "feeling male". It's not a sexist thing, it's just body and brain at war.
I don't know what it's like to be female. Not a real one, anyway. I pretended for a long while, but I could never fit in. Not on the inside, and that conflict always it showed on the outside - no matter how hard I tried to hide it (I was never accepted as one of them either).
What's it like to be a man (to me)? It's almost too easy :laugh:. The world makes a lot more sense. Being accepted and fitting in is much easier than I ever expected - I just have to say, think, act and do what comes naturally. I don't feel a "power" as such, but I do feel a huge increase in confidence and relief from finally being able to be myself, and having the world react in a positive manner!
Sometimes I can revert slightly in difficult situation though - but I think it has to do with being used to putting up a front for so long. While finally being yourself can be a massive relief, it can also leave you feeling a bit naked at times. If people dislike you, it's actually you they dislike, and not who you're pretending to be. You've got nothing to hide behind anymore.
Quote from: Kyle :3 on September 06, 2009, 07:24:48 PMIs it true that even though you can feel like a man on the inside, the testosterone makes you feel more like one biologically?
It has for me. As time goes on and I get more changes I'm sure I'll feel even more like a man. It's hard to feel like a man when you don't have certain male sexual characteristics... but we already all know this. ;)
If people dislike you, it's actually you they dislike, and not who you're pretending to be. You've got nothing to hide behind anymore.
I think they are also much more likely to tell you that they don't like you, and much more likely to do something about it also.
Isn't sad that people can't just switch bodies with other people? I'm MtF so I shouldn't be on this section of the board but I saw it in one of the "Most recently posted in" on the side so I clicked on it.
My answer may not be that helpful but I'll try. To feel like a man, would feel wonderful to you, like feeling like a woman does for me. It's hard to describe but I'll try my best. You see, when you've transitioned you'll feel alot of weight off your chest *giggles* I mean that litterally of course. Onetime when I had the joy of wearing "breast" forms they actually felt like I had breasts. I must say when I took them off, even though they were'nt that heavy, it felt like someone had lifted massive weights from my body. It depressed me, but for you I'm sure it'll feel amazing.
I will warn you though, "feeling like male" will get quite uncomfortable at times in the crotch area. Once you've full transitioned you'll know what I mean. That thing is extremely hard to posiion properly, and unless your naked there will be positions that you walk or sit in, that just won't feel right. Kind feels like someone put a stick of salami (or other meat stick depending on size) in your pants and your not allowed to take it out. Of course your salami stick will feel things too, which makes it doulbe as uncomfortable at times.
Anyway I hope that helps lol, it's hard to describe just like it would be hard to describe feeling female. Though when you accept yourself as male, even if you haven't transitioned, you'll know what it's like emotionally. I feel kinda empty when I'm presenting as a male. I'm still me and everything, just something feels depressing and it won't go away. I even feel that way sometimes when dressed up if I'm not convinced. However when you look at your self in the mirror and "see" a male (or in my case a female) whether or not you've transitioned, as long as your mind in convinced it will be one of the most uplifting and wonderful feelings you will ever feel (second only to sex lol.)
P.S.
Isn't it sad that I would love to have/feel a period? I mean I know it hurts like hell, I know it's uncomfortable, I know even genetic females who aren't trans hate it with a passion as well, and yet it's something I'll never have... and so I want it... sad isn't it?
Quote from: Adrianna on September 07, 2009, 12:09:00 PM
P.S.
Isn't it sad that I would love to have/feel a period? I mean I know it hurts like hell, I know it's uncomfortable, I know even genetic females who aren't trans hate it with a passion as well, and yet it's something I'll never have... and so I want it... sad isn't it?
Hahaha yeah it is kinda sad. I understand why youd want it though. Id rather have precum than a period any day
Quote from: Sebastien on September 06, 2009, 07:43:11 PM
I second what HeatherRose said, but I can certainly tell you that after being on T for awhile, you obviously LOOK like any other guy, and at that point, you begin to feel like any other guy, as well
SD
Very much agree'd!
Jay
Quote from: Kyle :3 on September 07, 2009, 12:24:52 PM
Hahaha yeah it is kinda sad. I understand why youd want it though. Id rather have precum than a period any day
Technically you do have that. It's really no different then normal female lubracation, just in a smaller amount and possibly contains sperm. Actually female ejaculation, has been reported (and no not just in porn) and it comes from the urethra not the vaginal opening. This is attrabutited to being produced by the G-spot as well (where as female lubracation is produced by two glands nearer to the entrance of the vaginal canal) and it's chemical make-up is the same as male ejaculate (minus the sperm) so it's actually possible for you to have that. Where as what I want is impossible lol. The reason for this is most likely due to the fact that all fetuses are female to begin with and only change once testosterone is pumped into the body. So most likely the g-spot in a genetic male actually changes to become the prostate and other needed organs.. meaning they are practically the same thing :P
Quote from: Adrianna on September 07, 2009, 01:41:05 PMIt's really no different then normal female lubracation, just in a smaller amount and possibly contains sperm. Actually female ejaculation, has been reported (and no not just in porn) and it comes from the urethra not the vaginal opening. This is attrabutited to being produced by the G-spot as well (where as female lubracation is produced by two glands nearer to the entrance of the vaginal canal) and it's chemical make-up is the same as male ejaculate (minus the sperm) so it's actually possible for you to have that.
This is true. The female cum gland is referred to as the female prostate (this gland becomes the prostate in male fetuses). It's components are
just like male cum except no sperm and ejaculates from the urethra. Women can even train themselves to have a female ejaculation.
That would be... I hate to say it... So cool. :laugh:
So if women can train themselves to ejaculate, so can trans guys. I guess it would be interesting, in a way... After bottom surgery, especially. It would just be a bit of an affirmation of maleness. I can imagine liking that.
Does testosterone make me feel like a man? I don't know, what does being a man feel like?
Quote from: Mister on September 08, 2009, 01:28:52 PM
I don't know, what does being a man feel like?
well... it feels like youre a macho caveman who talks down to women and works out for 4 hours a day and has a hairy back.
im jk. i actually have no idea.
Quote from: Josh on September 08, 2009, 02:24:27 PM
well... it feels like youre a macho caveman who talks down to women and works out for 4 hours a day and has a hairy back.
im jk. i actually have no idea.
Hahah i was thinking.
What I meant is being with testosterone and has hair everywhere and is bigger than a woman. I guess it can't be much different since it is who I am inside.
Hopefully the reason you transition is because you feel like a man. I think that's the way to know whether you do or do not.
Quote from: V on September 08, 2009, 04:25:33 PM
Hopefully the reason you transition is because you feel like a man. I think that's the way to know whether you do or do not.
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:eusa_think:
Pick a prize form the top shelf. :icon_yes: :icon_yes:
T calms you, gets rid of the monthly visitor, and well, your little thing will grow and feeling a little shaft in there is pretty manly.
I've been on it 2-1/2 months, and I feel great.
More manly? Hard to say.... my voice is starting to lower, my moustache needs shaving (and chin bristles) every other day, and I smell like a guy. My muscle mass is going up too. But I was already bristly, horny, muscle-y, and have a fairly deep voice naturally. Interestingly, I still hardly pass. I'm passing a bit more than before, but the effects are very gradual.
Quote from: V on September 08, 2009, 04:25:33 PM
Hopefully the reason you transition is because you feel like a man. I think that's the way to know whether you do or do not.
How is someone to know what it feels like to be a man?
Quote from: Mister on September 09, 2009, 09:54:23 PMHow is someone to know what it feels like to be a man?
:eusa_think: Only a "real man" knows for sure.
Maybe you find yourself watching The Man Show? Manswers?
Only a "real man" knows for sure
Which pretty much counts out her answer don't it?
Is there is anyone who can stand up and say, "This is what it "feels" like to be a "real"
man or woman."? If there is, perhaps they should do so and enlighten us all. Maybe
we can ask a flambouantly effeminate gay man or maybe a muscular butch lesbian
woman. The only way that I know that I am not a real man is because of the
level of discomfort I have experienced when it was assumed that I was one.
The quantification of feeling and reality, like pain, is subjective.
Yeah, that's the point I've been making for several posts now.
level of discomfort
Sorry, if that is your bottom line, then the GGs who feel 'discomfort' by having to share a bathroom with you win. Bad argument.
"Feeling like a man" or "feeling like a woman" is an individual experience. It can be experienced, or obviously there would be no need to transition.
The difference being, my
level of discomfort
does not affect their lives.