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Title: A response to JAZZ ( now 8 )
Post by: daisybelle on September 25, 2009, 09:39:13 AM

I have been reading this thread ( http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=662247&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0 (http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=662247&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0) ) , and want to scream WTF!!!

QuoteDicktar -- I'll mark you down as "no comment" on the evidence that hormone therapy is dangerous, has permanent side effects, and that most kids with GID simply outgrow it.

"Yellow" indeed.
http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=662247&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=84 (http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=662247&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=84)

He also uses this to counter as the condition is CURABLE: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90229789]
[url]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90229789 (http://[url) [/url]

I mean my blood is boiling..

D

Jazz at 8 : http://www.sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=858237 (http://www.sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=858237)

Title: Re: A response to JAZZ ( now 8 )
Post by: Renate on September 25, 2009, 10:18:06 AM

To clarify the NPR article link:

Therapists on Gender Identity Issues in Kids (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90229789)

This pits Diane Ehrensaft against Ken Zucker.

Title: Re: A response to JAZZ ( now 8 )
Post by: Nero on September 25, 2009, 10:24:14 AM

You'll never get anywhere arguing with militant feminists. Their whole belief system is structured around gender not existing.

Title: Re: A response to JAZZ ( now 8 )
Post by: daisybelle on September 25, 2009, 11:05:30 AM

Whoops -- is Dicktar possibly a she ? My apologies if I got it wrong.

D

Title: Re: A response to JAZZ ( now 8 )
Post by: FairyGirl on September 25, 2009, 11:48:15 AM

QuoteWhat do you say to Ken Zucker's argument that children this age are flexible, that you can never know?

I would say that I think that there is a subgroup of children who, if we listen to them carefully, will tell us, "I know who I am. And if you let me be who I am, I will be a healthy person. And if you try to bend my twig" — which is what I think Zucker does — "then I will be a repressed, suppressed, depressed person who will learn to do what other people expect of me and I'll hide who I really am."

my god this is true.

Title: Re: A response to JAZZ ( now 8 )
Post by: K8 on September 28, 2009, 07:53:11 PM

Quote from: FairyGirl on September 25, 2009, 11:48:15 AM
my god this is true.

Yep, that's my life in a nutshell. I didn't have the words or the permission to say them, but that was me when I was little.

- Kate

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