I know some are happy with what they have down there, and some are not.
Are you?
If in between, what do you do to help you overcome it?
In ftm case, use a packer, use a realistic packer, use a prosthetic?
In mtf case, use a tie down, use a prosthetic?
If not, what are you willing to do to change it?
Are you willing to undergo surgery?
Or just use some type of prosthetic?
Or have you already?
And do you like how the surgery turned out?
Given the current circumstances on the available surgeries.
I really don't plan on ever having bottom surgery. My vagina works the way it's supposed to, and I'd rather not muck with it. (Even though I DO wish I had a penis sometimes all the time.) :P
As far as packers go, I don't have one, but I really want one. I'd like to try an STP, and if I like it, it would probably be something I won't want to go without. The problem would be getting my mom to help me buy one. XD
Unless they can give me a transplant, I'm not getting bottom surgery. I'd rather let T do it's work, even if it is little, and just use prosthetics. There's more than one way to please a woman and well, while I wish I was born with the right junk it's not everything to me. I'm more concerned about my chest.
I'm way more concerned over secondary characteristics (hairline, voice, fat distribution) than I am about having a package.
I have a packer (in the mail... *checks watch for the billionth time*), and a binder, and no interest in getting surgery at this point in time. I'd consider top surgery, someday, when I'm rich and maybe actually want to expose my chest in public; but not lower surgery. Too expensive, inadequate for my desires, and too many complications. If I can't be completely satisfied, I'd rather use something fake that I can change if it sucks, than spend thousands of dollars on something that I can't change at all that might leave me unable to get off or even leave me incontinent.
QuoteI don't "have what it takes" to achieve a satisfactory result
I'm probably going to regret asking but what are you lacking?
Yes, SRS is a definite in my future...already planning on having it late next year. To overcome it right now I just remind myself how far I've come already, and that waiting another year is not that much. I don't do anything special to "keep it down", I just wear normal panties and it does the job.
~Sarah
Yes, I think I will need bottom surgery. It's just so crucial for me.
But when, I cannot say. Just some day in the future. But I'm not sure of procedure.
I presently use nothing. Once I started hormones I quit using breastforms altogether. And, the hormones have done enough magic on the lower region now that tucking isn't really ever a problem. My SRS is already paid for just waiting for however many days it says on my ticker down there to get it over with. Like Sarah said, until then I'm just biding my time and reminding myself it's almost over. I'll be plenty glad when that day comes.
On one hand I regret not getting it done when I was younger. I've always hated having a penis and being expected to act like a man :P
On the other hand, I believe the products and procedures are more advanced and of better quality now :icon_chick:
I can't wait until it's my turn :icon_chick:
think if i ever get to that stage i'll opt for metoidioplasty. i'd rather have something small thats got sensation than something that looks right but doesnt do anything. til medical science evolves it'll be a prosthetic for me
As a MtF, I have an Orchidectomy planned in the very near future. Just waiting on the funds.
But I do want to obtain an SRS sometime in the future. If they ever could prefect a transplant I would swap with any of the guys, Gladly.
Janet
My opinion is I'm not having it. I'm used to what I've got, no sense in bulldozing the whole thing and building from scratch.
Undecided. I pack every day, although I never thought I would. I first started packing because it made me feel more authentic in the gay men's discussion group I go to once a week. Then I started packing more and more...it's become a psychological necessity. I never expected that.
And I never expected that I would start experiencing drawbacks when it came to packing. It's eerie and disturbing to reach down and touch myself and then realize, with a jolt, that I HAVE NO FEELING DOWN THERE. Then I remember that it's just a packy and there's nothing wrong with me. That is, I realize that I haven't lost penile sensation because it isn't really my penis.
That is freaky. So now, contrary to my expectations, I'm thinking seriously about bottom surgery. But I wouldn't be able to have it anytime soon. Too expensive, and I haven't worked through my options yet. So...undecided.
I'm undecided. Phalloplasty as it stands now (no pun intended) is a no-go for me. I will probably get a meta with testicular implants and urethral hook-up at some point if I end up with enough size to make it usable. I think I've ruled out centurion, though, because I've heard too many tales of guys ending up with bladder control issues afterward. Not worth it for a little extra girth. If I don't end up with at least 3 inches, however, I'll probably opt for a simple clitoral release.
In the mean time, I use a packy converted to an STP, if I use anything at all. Most of the time I don't bother, but that may change as I go full time. Theoretically I would use a strap-on for sex, but I haven't had the opportunity yet. :P
I'm gonna get a hysto next year & thats it no more surgeries 4 me.
I dont want bottom surgery. King kong aint broken & doesnt need fixin >:-) . If someday the techniques 4 meta & phallo improve maybe I'll think about it but for now I'm cool w/what I got. no rush.
I really want meta, not so sure about phallo though, but maybe in the future I will change my mind.
Now I pack, I love the feeling of having something down there, will convert it to an STP as I love peeing standing up.
Quote from: Tristan H. on September 25, 2009, 05:21:44 PM
Unless they can give me a transplant, I'm not getting bottom surgery. I'd rather let T do it's work, even if it is little, and just use prosthetics. There's more than one way to please a woman and well, while I wish I was born with the right junk it's not everything to me. I'm more concerned about my chest.
Ditto.
Absolutely will do SRS, if I ever have that kind of money. It's not debilitating in day to day sense for me right now but it makes me very wary of relationships and I know if I ever cleared every other problem in the way of getting that close to somebody it would still be a big hurdle I don't know that I could get over.
Me personally I'm not going to get bottom surgery. I'm fine with what I already have down there. I don't use a packer of any sort. Bottom surgery (or any surgery for that matter) is not in my future
I'm certainly not fine with what I was given. However, I think FTM surgical procedures could be better than this. It almost makes me want to pursue work in a field relating to it... I think more could be done to improve technique. It's just that no one cares to.
The moment I have the money, Im getting the knife.
Maybe its incomplete, but I look at it like an integer scale. -10(for us guys) being female, and +10 being fully male. I was born around a -7, if I just get to 0 Id be a hell of alot more comfortable. As it is now though, Im looking at about 3-5 and thats a miracle. Im not going to spend 85 years in a body that doesnt function worth a crap hoping someday theyll have a full cure. Wheels may not be legs but at least you can get around.
I plan on a hysterectomy with oophorectomy and probably vaginectomy (done all at once). I also want to get a meta and scrotoplasty. At first I wanted a phalo but after more research I probably won't. Alot of that will depend on growth and the meta results. Even though I'd love a (more realistic) penis I don't want one with the sensitivity of just my arm, leg or side.
If someone truly loves you genitals would not matter, I've known straight guys who are married to trans-girls and even been married for 30 + years--Sex isn't everything and E really makes it smaller...It's not like people are going to stare down there anyways (Unless they are really dirty)...But still; It's none of their business...Love comes from the heart not the penis/vagina.
Though I may just con what I just said, I may get the surgery needed but not for sexual purposes; Mainly for hygiene and lowering the T levels that come from retaining the "male" parts.
Yes, SRS is a goal of mine to do one day. I doubt I'd be happy keeping it around at all.
As an MtF, my short term goal (several months away) to start HRT and long term (when the money exists) I plan on FFS and SRS. For me anything less would be too unreasonable to bear. I have spent 48 years in this body and even though I 'could' continue to live this way, knowing that there is an effective solution, I need to pursue it with all of my energy.
What do I do in the meantime? Well, I am still new and just starting off on the road to exploring my true self. In fact last night was my first time out of the house. The first and far from the last. Until things really get underway, I will continue with tucking, breastforms, wigs, and makeup. As long as I can be somewhat passable, then I will be able to bide my time.
Deanna
If that's you in your pic, Deanna, you're pretty cute :D
I am all for having bottom surgery...I don't want to be a trans-man, I want to be a man. With no question about that...and having a vagina will just remind me of that time when I was always seen as female, and I'll be paranoid that anyone I'm involved with sexually will only see me as such as well.
Thinking of a meta with scrotal implants and urethral lengthening. Looking now for any way to get some extra length to that...my goal being 3-4 inches, but also no way I can afford injectable HGH and don't know if oral forms of it work enough to be worth trying. My priority is to start T and chop off the girly titties.
Quote from: chrissyboy on September 27, 2009, 01:19:18 AM
If that's you in your pic, Deanna, you're pretty cute :D
Yes, Chrissyboy, that is, mostly, me. The hair is a wig (the real stuff is much grayer and growing), the makeup (professionally applied), the boobs (breast forms), the rest is all me - taken at the Southern Comfort Conference on Friday. Thanks for the compliment. :icon_chick:
Deanna
Yeah Deanna I remember your old picture and you look a lot better now. Not like a man at all IMO.
Oh yeah and to answer the question, FTM bottom surgery blows. Not dysphoric enough about my lower parts for a prosthetic or an $80,000 armdick.
Still going to hope HGH with T will help, if it doesn't, I'll consider keeping my normal parts. I probably won't want to take asexuality on T.
SilverFang
Am I the only person who when I first saw this thread, thought it was about butt surgery?! LOL!!!
Are you? Im post bottom surgery
If in between, what do you do to help you overcome it? I am going to have a pubic phallo
In ftm case, use a packer, use a realistic packer, use a prosthetic? I use a packer and a prosthetic.
If not, what are you willing to do to change it? I am having the surgery..
Are you willing to undergo surgery? yes
Or just use some type of prosthetic? see above
Jay
Quote from: Jay on September 27, 2009, 09:34:52 AM
I am going to have a public phallo
Jay
umm... say what? :laugh:
No bottom surgery for me. I don't use a packer or any prosthetics. What I have down there really doesn't bother me
Quote from: Nero on September 27, 2009, 09:45:29 AM
umm... say what? :laugh:
Pubic damn it! Thats the second time I have had to correct that post! *face..palm*
Jay
Quote from: Chamillion on September 27, 2009, 04:21:19 PM
No bottom surgery for me. I don't use a packer or any prosthetics. What I have down there really doesn't bother me.
I envy you guys.
My opinions on bottom surgery is a surgery to complete the esthetics side of things, otherwise you are female or male regardless how you are mapped.
In theory, there is never (and I use the term loosely) a time in your life where you are uncertain of your gender.
It might seem, like it. However, between how you feel as a child and at this point in time is how you felt all along. It's up to you to really realize that rift in your lifetime that this is the reality.
There is no escaping it, only a selected handful grew out of it completely, while some just took time.
While (most) of us are mapped a certain way, we will tend to go full out and esthetically make our body's match how we feel. A lot of people have their ups and down views on this however it basically comes down to YOU.
How do YOU feel? Are YOU sure you want to do this? Do YOU think this is right for YOU?
I personally am BI but have a stronger tendacy towards men, and too me to have something dead between my legs that I can't use regardless due to hormonal effect is a nuissance and I need it to be gone.
;)
-Sara
Quote from: Radar on September 28, 2009, 06:58:47 AM
I envy you guys.
I do feel lucky in a way that my bottom dysphoria's not bad. If I ever had bottom surgery, it would be more for society than for me.
Other than having more fun masturbating, I feel no need for a penis.
Quote from: Nero on September 28, 2009, 08:12:21 AMI do feel lucky in a way that my bottom dysphoria's not bad.
Yeah, mine's pretty bad. Always has been. :-\
Quote from: Radar on September 28, 2009, 09:04:56 PM
Yeah, mine's pretty bad. Always has been. :-\
same. even before i knew i was trans. >_< i just thought i had hardcore penis envy.
No questions asked, ever! hate what's down there :P
too bad I can't donate it to you :P
Quote from: Josh on September 29, 2009, 01:48:39 AMi just thought i had hardcore penis envy.
I did too! I blamed Freud. :D
I want it all, even if it includes sexual harrassment and lower pay. >:( (You guys are animals, even if you are kinda cute sometimes. ;))
That stuff down there is OK - it was even fun sometimes - but I'll be really happy when it is reconfigured the way it should have been originally. ;D
- Kate
With current technology? No. Don't want to mangle what could be perfectly good material for building something that functions later on.
I do however have a really strong desire to write my name in the dirt (no snow around here). I'm planning on an stp in the near future.
Quote from: Myself on September 29, 2009, 04:54:34 AM
too bad I can't donate it to you :P
That'd be something for someone to look into and study. Ftms and mtfs switching in some sort.
With current options for ftms, like most have said, many don't want to take the risk when there are no promising outcomes and things won't function as they're supposed to.
Quote from: Myself on September 29, 2009, 04:54:34 AMtoo bad I can't donate it to you :P
Geez you know I was just reading about the first successful double hand transplant. You'd think they could pull it off (no pun intended lol)
Quote from: FairyGirl on September 30, 2009, 02:39:17 AM
Geez you know I was just reading about the first successful double hand transplant. You'd think they could pull it off (no pun intended lol)
I think I heard somewhere that they are attempting that sort of transplant in Taiwan or something. The reason why it's being done is for men who have been castrated or born with defeats and whatnot.
Aha, here's some info.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14905485/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14905485/)
you can throw mine into the mix i dont use it ever im getting srs done the works i even took a second job strickly for the finances
Just today I was in having my back looked at, nearly a decade after being operated on for scoliosis. The bone graft from my hip (which did wonderful things to ruin my silhouette) still hurts, and always will... they no longer use that procedure because of all of the horrendous side effects people suffer from. I know it's a major self image thing for me along with the pain and inconvenience of not being able to wear clothes on my waist.
Why do I bring that up?
Because I'm horrified that a SRS breakthrough will come through a few years after I have it done.
then again it may not and the ones ive seen look pretty good
Quote from: Autumn on September 30, 2009, 05:37:07 AM
Just today I was in having my back looked at, nearly a decade after being operated on for scoliosis. The bone graft from my hip (which did wonderful things to ruin my silhouette) still hurts, and always will... they no longer use that procedure because of all of the horrendous side effects people suffer from. I know it's a major self image thing for me along with the pain and inconvenience of not being able to wear clothes on my waist.
Why do I bring that up?
Because I'm horrified that a SRS breakthrough will come through a few years after I have it done.
There will always be another breakthrough for any procedure.
Quote from: Tristan H. on September 30, 2009, 03:57:21 AM
I think I heard somewhere that they are attempting that sort of transplant in Taiwan or something. The reason why it's being done is for men who have been castrated or born with defeats and whatnot.
Aha, here's some info.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14905485/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14905485/)
Too bad he voluntarily had it removed. It would've been interesting to see if it lasted and if there were any short and long-term complications.