I'm just wondering if a post-op becomes old and she no longer wants to have sexual relationship, can she stop dilation completely? Will the urination hole at least still be there?
Quote from: Shelina on October 02, 2009, 12:27:49 AM
I'm just wondering if a post-op becomes old and she no longer wants to have sexual relationship, can she stop dilation completely? Will the urination hole at least still be there?
Of course you could, but why would you want that, that's a really odd question to ask.
Quote from: lpfix2009 on October 03, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
Of course you could, but why would you want that, that's a really odd question to ask.
Well if ever I succeed transition, when I become old, I don't see the necessity of having a vaginal hole if I won't intend to have sex anymore.
And what about the pee hole, will it still be there without having to dilate the vagina?
Perhaps you should take an anatomy class.
Yes, the Pee hole will be there.
But.. you won't have a vagina if you don't dilate.
Quote from: Miniar on October 03, 2009, 12:54:36 PM
Yes, the Pee hole will be there.
But.. you won't have a vagina if you don't dilate.
Doesn't matter, won't need it by the way when I'm old.
Quote from: Shelina on October 03, 2009, 02:40:43 PM
Doesn't matter, won't need it by the way when I'm old.
You never know, you might become a sex addict once you get :)
Quote from: Matilda on October 03, 2009, 03:40:04 PM
If you want to keep your vagina, yes, dilation is necessary and a lifetime commitment.
I haven't reached that privileged status of "middle-aged" or "old" yet >:-) ;D Dilation either done by me or my boyfriend is a must. I would hate for my vagina to collapse, but I used to know someone, a woman of transsexual history in her 60's who claimed that she'd stopped dilating altogether. Apparently, she wasn't interested in sex anymore, and according to what she used to say, her vagina had closed completely. Kind of scary if you ask me!
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I suppose the scariest thing that could ever happen to you is if you get SRS done and your thrown in jail without the right or proper right of dialation. O_O
Many old people have sex, some old folks homes are like orgies.
Also, as you age, you will need to dilate less and less anyway.
I suspect you are a long way off from that point, and by then odds are new things will be available.
I'm with Leslie on this one, I have a friend who works with elderly patients, not all little old ladies are all that innocent.
I'm not giving up my vagina until they pry it from my cold dead fingers!! uh... or something like that.
I know people who have stopped dilating and they have lost depth. In at least one instance, the vagina healed completely shut. I also know people who stopped dilating for a while, and then found themselves getting romantically involved with someone. When they started dilating again, it was extremely painful and they found that they lost depth permanently.
Honestly, I don't understand why anyone would stop dilating. It's just not that big of a thing after 6 months or so. Yes, the first few months post op, dilation runs your life. But after 6 months or so, it's 30 minutes after you get up and 30 minutes before you go to bed. It's not painful, and it can become pleasurable.
As I see it, it's better to keep up with maintenance and have a functional vagina that you have spent a lot of money for and worked many years to attain then to let it go to waste by not dilating.
Quote from: lpfix2009 on October 03, 2009, 04:18:19 PM
I suppose the scariest thing that could ever happen to you is if you get SRS done and your thrown in jail without the right or proper right of dialation. O_O
In jail, you don't need to worry sweetie as you'll have many natural dilators of all sizes who would be more than happy to dilate you effortlessly. >:-)
Quote from: Shelina on October 03, 2009, 09:21:55 PM
In jail, you don't need to worry sweetie as you'll have many natural dilators of all sizes who would be more than happy to dilate you effortlessly. >:-)
I dont know what jail youve been in but females are seperated from males.
Quote from: lpfix2009 on October 03, 2009, 10:01:06 PM
I dont know what jail youve been in but females are seperated from males.
In my country mtf transsexuals & male homosexuals are jailed together with males.
Quote from: Shelina on October 03, 2009, 10:20:42 PM
In my country mtf transsexuals & male homosexuals are jailed together with males.
that would be discrimination it wouldnt last long in Canada
This is a cute thread. I suggest trying to dilate your urethra now to get in practice. Use it or lose it, right?
Its not even a case of sexual relationships, Im 24years post op, as a woman I want my vagina to stay healthy, I want my vagina functional and to maintain my depth, my BF dilates me regularly, if theres a time when he's not around, then I'II have to do it myself, as Matilda says ''dilation is a necessary and a lifetime commitment''
Next year I'II be 25years post op, with good maintenance hopefully my vagina will be in good condition for the next 25years and beyoud, a girl has got to do what a girl has got to do, to keep pussy functional and healthy.
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Quote from: lpfix2009 on October 03, 2009, 10:52:02 PM
that would be discrimination it wouldnt last long in Canada
LOL!!! thats what i was thinking!
Quote from: Shelina on October 03, 2009, 10:20:42 PM
In my country mtf transsexuals & male homosexuals are jailed together with males.
I'm not sure about other countries, but here in England the law tends to send you to prison based on you gender as stated on your birth certificate. So a MtF transsexual will get sent to a male prison and a FtM will get sent to a female prison.
From reading these prison threads you'd think transsexuals were the most crime prone lot in the world. I'm 34 and I just got my first ticket ever last year, and it wasn't even a moving violation. What are we doing to be so concerned about which jail we are put in...hm...Shelina...how about...prostitution?
Quote from: Becca on October 06, 2009, 10:41:25 PM
From reading these prison threads you'd think transsexuals were the most crime prone lot in the world. I'm 34 and I just got my first ticket ever last year, and it wasn't even a moving violation. What are we doing to be so concerned about which jail we are put in...hm...Shelina...how about...prostitution?
LOL! Here is a common point with us. In my country it's illegal too but the police are very lenient to us here. What is strange is that the police stop the 'kerb crawlers' (clients moving slow with cars to find prostitutes) and not the prostitutes themselves. They are informally allowed to exerce as in the parliament, they said it's better to have them than amount of rape soaring but they haven't made it officially legal yet.
Quote from: Matilda on October 05, 2009, 06:10:37 PM
Yeah, no kidding! But I'd imagine that they will let you bring your dilators with you. (I hope). The other day I was watching the TLC channel, and they had a show about pre-op girls who were serving sentences in male prisons. Some of them were very pretty, perfect voice, breasts, nice complexion and everything else. They didn't mention it on the program, but I wonder if these girls are confined to a special place, away from all the other inmates.
I know. Off topic. Sorry Shelina!
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Depends if your in a maximum security building because of the fact they don't give you anything plastic for longer then 10 minutes, wether or not your finished your food. or what not.
The BC in GB could be changed after Gender recognition act of 2004. And before that POST-op girls usually served in female prisons. And in the USA I do not honestly think any prison putting POST-op MTF to general male population. However PRE-op girl could be put and is usually put to general male population.
Post Merge: October 17, 2009, 12:35:31 PM
Also In Canada a pre-op girl would go to male and post-op to female prison.
Post Merge: October 17, 2009, 01:46:32 PM
And the op means here SRS/GRS/vaginoplasty. You will go with males despite of BA, FFS or orchi.
Post Merge: October 17, 2009, 02:54:28 PM
About what country you are talking about Shelina?
Putting a POST-op MTF to male prison. I would consider that as a human right violation.
Quote from: lpfix2009 on October 03, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
Of course you could, but why would you want that, that's a really odd question to ask.
Isn't that the poster's motto?
Quote from: DarkLady on October 17, 2009, 03:25:47 PMHowever PRE-op girl could be put and is usually put to general male population
I can remember this topic coming up 40 years ago when I was pre-op myself and there was no 'legal guidelines'.
Generally speaking, Canada is a compassionate country and an effeminate male would NOT be put in general population but in segregation. Police and prison guards are not (usually) sadistic and they know damned well what would happen to such a person in general population in a male prison!
As a teen without legal protection, the prospect of being incarcerated for ANYTHING was terrifying! Being thrown in a cell with male offenders? Well just shoot me where I stand!
Answering the OP. Why would you spend $30,000 for a virgina and
intentionally allow it to heal closed? If you are even thinking about it,
why put yourself through the pain and suffering of such an invasive
procedure? Why not just get an orchi or I'm sure you could find some
doctor that could do it the old fashion way and just remove your
genitals. If you don't plan on ever getting intimate with someone
else what does it matter what your crotch looks like?
I was generally writing that part about the USA. A PRE-op transgirl must prove that she is in danger to apply for protective custody (Farmer vs. Brennan). So she must have troubles in general population before she can request seg. In Canada that might very well be diffent.
this sounds like such hard, obsessive work @@..
I think that the pre-op woman that went in when Northern Jane was pre-op (40 years ago) is still in male prison somewhere in Canada.
Post Merge: October 18, 2009, 12:15:03 PM
I just read about her. She is now 61 and in male prison.
Post Merge: October 18, 2009, 01:22:19 PM
She went to a juvenile institution first time while she was 11. There is a book about her.