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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Inphyy on October 29, 2009, 11:34:50 PM

Title: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Inphyy on October 29, 2009, 11:34:50 PM
Hello everyone!

Today is Thursday, October 29th...2009 and it is officially 9:35 P.M.

Earlier today at my school my 4th period teacher for history Mr. Johnson openly had an verbal fight with me in front of the whole class about me being transgendered and how I was...

The teacher said that homosexuality is an sin, that all gay people are the same and since the trans people are grouped with the gays, they're gay also!

He also said that it's gross and an monstrous concept for people being different...

99% of the class also does not accept or even appease the idea of transgendered people, they poke fun at me and spread seriously bad rumors about me; More of the latter though.

I already have to deal with pain from school others in all of my other classes and at lunch, now to have more 4th period teacher do the same is so fooking sad! The other sad thing? I know if I tell on them that the classmates won't back me up and the majority of the office called my mom today and says that I have become a "distraction" at school and for my own good, "I should fit in better with everyone else."

So besides a few staff members like the Principal, the Nurse and the Counselor...Most of the staff don't like me; Simply for the fact that I am transgendered and they think I am an "distraction" to others!

I ended up crying all of 5th period and in 6th I was really quiet...Which normally with my friends--I'm actually an loud, happy, friendly person -- Which is the reason why I have a lot of friends and I am even friends with the cheerleaders and the popular kids in school (Which I think also leads to why the whole school knows about me)...But besides that point, most people asked why I was sad and crying; But I just wanted to cry it out.

On the way home, my mother started telling me about how the world and even in politics that "Gays, lesbians, transgendered people and bi people are taboos in society! The bible even says that one shall honor ones father and mother", which I take as being "normal" like everyone else--She also said I should..."Tone it down" and "Quit trying to become a girl for an while."

So first! She brings up the bible, then tells me to hide who I am and then says that I am trying to become a girl, I've told her for about the millionth time that transgendered people don't become girls/guys, that they are who they desire but their brains don't match their bodies and their will. She doesn't understand...It makes me soooooo livid sometimes!!! -_-"

Well with all the dark, ominous, gloomy Halloween stuff aside...I'm going to be an dead bride tomorrow (You're suppose to dress up for Halloween on Friday since Halloween is on Saturday) but I toke this classic theme and twisted it into my own version! =]

So there's some up to the down...And hopefully the irony of Halloween and dark "brilliance" will end from others...And then...In hope and dreams; Maybe we'll finally all be understood. 
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Janet_Girl on October 29, 2009, 11:51:24 PM
I know that the staff of the school isn't in your corner, but I would report it to the superintendent of your school district.  And i would talk to that consular about it.


Janet
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Inphyy on October 30, 2009, 12:08:11 AM
Funny you said the Super I., they don't like me as well (They are one of the staff am talking about), so *sigh*, I guess only talking to my Couns. will do anything...
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Flan on October 30, 2009, 12:30:09 AM
or a Lambda Legal lawyer...

stay groovy Tetra, the "pain" of HS doesn't last too long (and the possibilities can happen in college or university, or simply to another place, if the job market open up)

*hugs*
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: V M on October 30, 2009, 12:35:03 AM
I can understand about the other students acting immature, But I feel that the adults involved are overstepping boundaries of teacher student relations.
Sounds like discrimination
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Inphyy on October 30, 2009, 12:47:20 AM
Quote from: Virginia Marie on October 30, 2009, 12:35:03 AM
I can understand about the other students acting immature, But I feel that the adults involved are overstepping boundaries of teacher student relations.
Sounds like discrimination

You toke the words right out of my mouth, that's what I thought!!!
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Zelane on October 30, 2009, 01:25:31 AM
*insert several insults here*

I transitioned in college and the first thing I was worried about was the attitude of the teachers. Its simple but you probably wont be liked by a lot of persons due to be yourself.

But if the teachers treat you with respect, your classmates cant help but follow. Now that teachers its attacking you. Try to find someone that will listen and get that *add another insult* fired (or at least reprimanded)
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: jesse on October 30, 2009, 04:32:24 AM
contact a glbt lawyer hun this is rediculous harrasment if not for yourself do it for the next trans person who may already be in your school and watching what happens to you
jessica
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: heatherrose on October 30, 2009, 04:59:23 AM


As much courage as you have in being out and in their faces,
why are you allowing this attack from a religious zealot to cower you?
The only way that people like this are able to get away with this crap,
is if you sit there and take it. It may seem to you that everyone is against
you and that is what this slimebag wants you to believe. You are not alone,
get in touch with your nearest GLBT group and tell them exactly what
happened. Then sit back and watch the fireworks.



Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: lizbeth on October 30, 2009, 05:07:05 PM
I have an issue with the teacher talking about what is and isn't a sin in the classroom....  is there a GSA in your school? I really think you may need to seek legal advice if you aren't able to resolve it with the superintendant others in the school board. did you talk to your principal?
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Sarah_Faith on October 30, 2009, 10:31:15 PM
I'm trying to find words to answer this, but I can't say anything without sounding totally dramatic!

I would have thought that people of an older age would, if not had a more open view, at the very least had a very good knowledge of anti descrimination. What you had to suffer is just fcuked up. Ill be straight up. I just finished college. I didn't come out in college, but I do know if I had, lecturers wouldnt have been a problem, as if they were, I'd have the college for millions!

Ahh Tetra, I here and now give you a good hug. Thats just not fair and I really do feel for you!  :)
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Cindy on October 31, 2009, 04:18:12 AM
Dear Tetra

May I add my hugs, I really don't understand these bible bashing perverts. I know the USA was founded on a religious setting that appears to be very fundamentalist and in some areas appears to be getting more so. If I believed in religion I would have thought that intolerance would be one of the biggies as it leads to victimisation, violence and hate etc.

Hugs again Hon

Cindy
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Kimberley on October 31, 2009, 07:20:51 AM
Big hug little sis. I wish I could help. I can only say don't let them get to you, stay strong. You know who you are and that there is nothing wrong with you apart from having the wrong outer physical characteristics. As a person know that you will always be a better person than these people.

As to the attitude of your fellow students that are against you or try to ridicule you that attitude comes from their bigoted parents who no doubt would say they are religious and tolerant folk. What they really are saying is that they are bigoted zealots who fear anyone or anything that does not fit in with their narrow perception of what normality is.
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: r.morgan on October 31, 2009, 10:30:06 AM
Sorry this is a little late:

Everything mentioned here is only an untrained persons suggestions.  This is not LEGAL ADVICE, for legal advice contact a layer.   Most lawyers will tell you how to properly document these things.  They do this so they have better material to work with then just he said, she said if/when you are ready to act. 

Just some ideas to help you get started in case it takes a while for them to get back to you. ;)
Go to the staff members who are supportive and tell them that you need this event documented.  Documentation is important for the legal ground works especially if you believe others will not support your statement.  Keep a specific journal with the who, when, where, and what was said, until advised otherwise by an actual lawyer so you have something to start working with.  If you can carry a Voice Recorder (perfectly valid to have one for class lecture notes ;)), so that when someone does start you will have some audio proof that it's happening.  This may not be admissible in court if the person on the recording is not aware that they are being recorded - but that varies from state to state.

Don't make a production of it, just do it as unobtrusively as you can.  If it doesn't seem out of the ordinary people let their guard down more quickly and will be back into their comfortable routine soon. 

If you receive any written threats or the such DO NOT throw them out. Take them to the supportive staff they will most likely copy it for school files.  Many schools have a ludicrous Zero Tolerance policy now, so the police may get involved. 
This is not a bad thing because police records are great documentation.  :)

Check your phone book for civil rights lawyers in your area - if they can't help you they should be able to direct you to who can.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: FairyGirl on October 31, 2009, 11:01:17 AM
if it is a public, government funded school then it is AGAINST THE LAW for a teacher to spew religious dogma of any kind in the classroom, especially directed towards one student. That alone is enough to get that teacher suspended if not fired. If you can find a couple of witnesses that were there and also heard this exchange then you can prove your accusation. You should fight back. I really admire your courage in the face of these adult bullies. Hang in there girl!

ps. love your costume idea- take pictures!
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Inphyy on November 01, 2009, 06:19:41 AM
Sorry, but like I said before everyone in the class is an a-hole towards me and none of them have/would stood up for me! The funny thing is though; Something separate from the 4th period thing (Which I don't care about anymore anyways), Is an MySpace message I received from a Hispanic "Gangster" who says he will kill me because A) His GF doesn't like me who has 3rd period with me and B) He doesn't like LGBTQI people, period.

So I'm going to show the message to the Principal on Monday.

Here I'll show you'll the message!!!

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg11.imageshack.us%2Fimg11%2F6738%2Fdomd.png&hash=e82ebf8d69aeb41874f57c7e71d6d755118c0340)
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: jesse on November 01, 2009, 07:48:08 AM
ok take that email to the police S-13 is a dangerous gang i would not play with this the email is terroristic threatening to begin with you need to get someone else involed with this
essica
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Inphyy on November 01, 2009, 08:01:16 AM
Quote from: jesse on November 01, 2009, 07:48:08 AM
ok take that email to the police S-13 is a dangerous gang i would not play with this the email is terroristic threatening to begin with you need to get someone else involed with this
essica

"So I'm going to show the message to the Principal on Monday." -- Obviously the Principal is going to check it out and since she has authority and rep, having her report it will get more done! So don't worry. Either way Police will be involved.
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: jesse on November 01, 2009, 08:20:45 AM
kewls tetra its just that i dont hae much faith in principals call it life expierence i hope it all works out
hugs
jessica
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Miniar on November 01, 2009, 10:14:00 AM
I would suggest you take it to the police as soon as possible yourself.
Keep the screenshot.
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Inphyy on November 01, 2009, 10:46:12 AM
Quote from: Miniar on November 01, 2009, 10:14:00 AM
I would suggest you take it to the police as soon as possible yourself.
Keep the screenshot.


I don't need the screen-shot, I still have the message in my...MySpace Inbox!  :P
Title: Re: Halloween & The "Horror of An Trans-Person"
Post by: Miniar on November 01, 2009, 10:58:15 AM
Quote from: Tetra on November 01, 2009, 10:46:12 AM
I don't need the screen-shot, I still have the message in my...MySpace Inbox!  :P

You will need it if; The sender is able to delete it. Myspace is able to delete it. Etc.
You want to keep all documentation possible just in case!