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News and Events => Political and Legal News => Topic started by: Michelle. on November 03, 2009, 09:43:45 PM

Title: Gay Marriage in Maine, too close to call.
Post by: Michelle. on November 03, 2009, 09:43:45 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ap_on_el_st_lo/us_gay_marriage_maine (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ap_on_el_st_lo/us_gay_marriage_maine)

I still haven't a clue how y'all do that "fair use" posting stuff.



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edited title, Maine instead of VT.
Title: Gay Marriage Maine, vote too close to call...
Post by: Michelle. on November 03, 2009, 09:47:28 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ap_on_el_st_lo/us_gay_marriage_maine (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ap_on_el_st_lo/us_gay_marriage_maine)

With about 1/6th of preceints reporting the vote is 50/50.

As the article says, a VT loss would be a huge set-back.

In further news, I still haven't figured out the "fair-use" format.


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edited title, Maine instead of VT
Title: Re: Gay Marriage VT, vote too close to call...
Post by: Janet_Girl on November 03, 2009, 09:58:23 PM
I hope and pray that the Yankee spirit of Live And Let Live will prevail.


Janet
Title: Re: Gay Marriage VT, vote too close to call...
Post by: Inphyy on November 03, 2009, 10:11:40 PM
*Crosses fingers*
Title: Re: Gay Marriage VT, vote too close to call...
Post by: Shana A on November 03, 2009, 10:12:54 PM
Quote from: michellesofl on November 03, 2009, 09:47:28 PM
In further news, I still haven't figured out the "fair-use" format.

Michelle,

Thanks for posting! Re "fair use", you can copy and paste up to 200 words of the article here as a teaser, and include the url (as you did) and byline so people can follow link and read the full article.

Z
Title: Re: Gay Marriage in Maine, too close to call.
Post by: Michelle. on November 03, 2009, 10:45:36 PM
I cant believe that I kept listing VT instead of Maine.

Thanks for the correction.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage in Maine, too close to call.
Post by: Shana A on November 04, 2009, 06:38:53 AM
Quote from: michellesofl on November 03, 2009, 10:45:36 PM
I cant believe that I kept listing VT instead of Maine.

Thanks for the correction.

No problem!

I'm really bummed about losing Maine!

Z
Title: Re: Gay Marriage in Maine, too close to call.
Post by: Suzy on November 04, 2009, 07:00:32 AM
It was not a loss, it was a practice run.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fganjataz.com%2F01smileys%2Fimages%2Fsmileys%2FloopyBlonde-blinking.gif&hash=4545ddf8251cf9c32ae6074d56e48bc34a755857)Kristi
Title: Re: Gay Marriage in Maine, too close to call.
Post by: LordKAT on November 04, 2009, 08:46:55 AM
Kristi the optimist.


I;m not complaining.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage in Maine, too close to call.
Post by: Julie Marie on November 04, 2009, 08:57:09 AM
The Principles of Democracy, a publication put out by the US Department of State, clearly states:

On the surface, the principles of majority rule and the protection of individual and minority rights would seem contradictory. In fact, however, these principles are twin pillars holding up the very foundation of what we mean by democratic government.

• Majority rule is a means for organizing government and deciding public issues; it is not another road to oppression. Just as no self-appointed group has the right to oppress others, so no majority, even in a democracy, should take away the basic rights and freedoms of a minority group or individual.

• Minorities – whether as a result of ethnic background, religious belief, geographic location, income level, or simply as the losers in elections or political debate – enjoy guaranteed basic human rights that no government, and no majority, elected or not, should remove.

• Minorities need to trust that the government will protect their rights and self-identity. Once this is accomplished, such groups can participate in, and contribute to their country's democratic institutions.


Now you'd think that if our government was built on these principles that things like these referendums would be struck down by the courts but again and again it keeps happening.  So what's the sense to having these principles if the majority ignores them and overrules you?

I just don't get it!

Julie
Title: Re: Gay Marriage in Maine, too close to call.
Post by: Michelle. on November 04, 2009, 01:40:31 PM
Because you only need to reach out to 4 of the 53 that oppose in Maine to reverse that vote.

This is a matter of inches not miles.

Raiding the first Maine church you come across this Sunday will only worsen the matter.