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What are you reading this on - PC or Mac/Apple?

I'm in the hundred percent that chose PC.  Of course, I was the first response.    ::)

SusanKG

PC user for life, AMD forever  :eusa_dance:
Windows owns me (oh wait, that's bad)
rawr!!1!

(just don't look at the iMac in my closet)

I'm an iMac Girl.  MacBook Pro, iMac 24", iPhone, iTunes.

I rock :P

-={LR}=-

Linux PCLOS on this 'puter and Kubuntu/XP with a dual-boot system on another. So I guess you can say a little of Windows/PC and then again, something else.

I prefer L-based systems since there's little or no security needed, especially if you are behind a router as a physical firewall. My Linux systems look like a microwave to drive-bys.

The overhead and security problems on Windows systems don't affect me.

I have one of each, on the mac at the moment :P

on a windows ME at the moment.

Yep. This thing came in the house Christmas '99.

behind me there's a Vista, that my dad is playing games on

Quote from: insanitylives on November 21, 2009, 09:49:31 AM
on a windows ME at the moment.

Yep. This thing came in the house Christmas '99.

behind me there's a Vista, that my dad is playing games on

How can you tell there's any  difference in Vista & ME? Vista has been called "ME-Redux".

If you want a real pump in speed and security, go to PCLOS. It even kinda looks like XP.

Try a quick read on this site (http://pclosmag.com/) (safe, I promise).

ALL Linux operating systems are free.

A PC running Vista. Yuck.  I really would like XP.  But it came with this OS.



Janet

Apple of course. I used to go visit this thing in the store while I waited to have enough money for it. I wub it so much that sometimes I have to charge it twice a day lol.

Jodie,

If one is running Vista and has programs that are geared to that POS OS.  Could one switch to Linux without having a programming degree and will those programs still wok.



Janet

Quote from: JodieBlonde on November 21, 2009, 10:38:43 AM
How can you tell there's any  difference in Vista & ME? Vista has been called "ME-Redux".

If you want a real pump in speed and security, go to PCLOS. It even kinda looks like XP.

Try a quick read on this site (http://pclosmag.com/) (safe, I promise).

ALL Linux operating systems are free.

What the....
If you didn't have over 100 posts, I'd think you were spamming, just by the font size, and the bit of go on about linux. I'm not clicking the link.

The difference is that one is updateable, and can actually get virus protection, the other can't even run MSN (or youtube, because it's not supported by FF2 or IE6)

Linux.

Quote from: Janet Lynn on November 21, 2009, 10:58:45 AM
Jodie,

If one is running Vista and has programs that are geared to that POS OS.  Could one switch to Linux without having a programming degree and will those programs still wok.



Janet

You could just get Windows 7. It's better than Vista and is a really reliable OS.

The problem with Linux is that it isn't the casual user's OS and you'll also find yourself using a lot of freeware alternatives for programs. So it's more of a OS for people who like to tinker around with their computer, but not very good for work.

you'll also find yourself using a lot of freeware alternatives for programs.

Many consider this a feature, not a drawback.

So it's more of a OS for people who like to tinker around with their computer, but not very good for work.

That depends entirely on what you do for work.

I used the large font for me and forgot to return it to normal - sorry. I have a detached retina and it makes it easier to write and correct things - that's all.

As far as PCLOS goes - it installs and runs very much like a Windows OS, but it has a much smaller footprint on your system and doesn't require lots of RAM to keep malware out with all sorts of firewalls, antivirus and security.

If you have an older machine - even a 500MHZ, it will run circles around most any NT with the possible exception of 93/95/98SE, but I dunnow as I've never made that test. It will absolutely smoke XP/Vista and 7 with ease if not in overhead, then not needing all the security gunk running and testing everything all the time.

One nice point is that you can have two OSs in the same machine so you can test it and keep them both running if you like. It uses a small program called "grub" (http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622) to give you dual-boot capacity. You might need a little tutoring for the partitioning, but that's the same in NT too - so no big deal.

Of course, Linux-based systems are free and Windows systems aren't.

I run a small application called "WINE" (http://www.winehq.org/) to make the few things that are NT-based, run, but I have a really great office suite (Open Office (http://www.openoffice.org/)- also free) and can run a few other free office tools that are every bit as useful and I feel much more user-friendly than Word Perfect, Windows Office or whatever. Open Office can read, write-to and edit Windows Office and Word Perfect too and it has a built-in PDF generator/reader/editor.  BTW: Your KINDLE can use WINE to run NT-based books and downloads too!)

My hardware runs out of the box - I am on line with PCLOS just like (but better than) Windows and have all the bells and whistles that I can also run in NT.

Google, GMail, AIM, GoogleEarth, GoogleMaps, (actually all that I have so far tried in Google work the same).

Of course, I am not a gamer which is the one big reason why some people won't use L-based OSs, and that's the way I like it - as I have a lot better things to do than blast and destroy imaginary people/places.

WMP, does NOT work - but there are so many other media players (free again) out there that I never miss it anyway.

I can FAX, Chat, E-mail, post, text, write/copy/print from PCLOS and I even have found it has a "Redmond" screen for those who really want to think they're running a PC with NT again/yet.

I wasn't spamming or trying to sell anything, but since the door was open on the various OSs out there, I just popped off.

If anyone asks for $$ to sell you an L-based program, remember that they are free and should not cost anything.

The link is SAFE - and just FYI - - -  that's all.

I used to run Linux boxes - Red Hat then Suse.

-={LR}=-

I am NOT going to get into a religious fight about which operating system or what hardware platform is best.

I am a grade A software guru geek girl.  I've been around since the days of wood burning computers.  I started working with big iron and it was considered a breakthrough in pricing to have a megabyte cost less than a megabuck.  I worked on supercomputers then that are far outclassed by the simple desktops of today.

I've worked with virtually every operating system that you have heard of, and some that you haven't.  I gave up my religious bigotry of IBM large general purpose computers with MVS SP2.

I work with someone who is as much of a guru on windows platforms as I am on *nix systems.  We joke with each other constantly about the foibles of each others platforms.

These days the computers are so fast and sophisticated that virtually any operating system will work equally well.  You may not want grandma to have to figure out the intricacies of installing Red Hat on her laptop and you may not wish to have all the user safety features of W7 or Snow Leopard.  It all comes down to what ever is best for you.

Kind of like us.

-Sandy(regex rules!)

I use PC

Sandy,

QuoteI am NOT going to get into a religious fight about which operating system or what hardware platform is best. 

I'll bet you're not much fun at conventions but I love your attitude.

QuoteI am a grade A software guru geek girl.  I've been around since the days of wood burning computers. 

Love it, love it.  I often want to start a fire in mine too!

QuoteIt all comes down to what ever is best for you

My idea of a good computer is one that when you turn it on it's on, when you tell it to do something it does, and half way through a process it does not switch from english to start asking for coded  information in super technicesse (or some spelling of it).  They claim Mac is the energizer bunny of computers.  I do know that they're very financially proud of themselves!

QuoteKind of like us.

Yes.

SusanKG

Quote from: Tristan H. on November 21, 2009, 09:36:29 PM
You could just get Windows 7. It's better than Vista and is a really reliable OS.

The problem with Linux is that it isn't the casual user's OS and you'll also find yourself using a lot of freeware alternatives for programs. So it's more of a OS for people who like to tinker around with their computer, but not very good for work.

Ubuntu = a more "user friendly" linux

Anyone still using Windows Me, likely isn't going to be able to handle a Linux install.
Sorry people.


Anyhow,
Currently, Windows7.

Mac Apple but I run LINUX on it :-)

OSX snow leopard and occasionally Ubuntu. I want an operating system that actually works!

Quote from: Sandy on November 21, 2009, 11:06:11 PM
I am NOT going to get into a religious fight about which operating system or what hardware platform is best.

I am a grade A software guru geek girl.  I've been around since the days of wood burning computers.  I started working with big iron and it was considered a breakthrough in pricing to have a megabyte cost less than a megabuck.  I worked on supercomputers then that are far outclassed by the simple desktops of today.

I've worked with virtually every operating system that you have heard of, and some that you haven't.  I gave up my religious bigotry of IBM large general purpose computers with MVS SP2.

I work with someone who is as much of a guru on windows platforms as I am on *nix systems.  We joke with each other constantly about the foibles of each others platforms.

These days the computers are so fast and sophisticated that virtually any operating system will work equally well.  You may not want grandma to have to figure out the intricacies of installing Red Hat on her laptop and you may not wish to have all the user safety features of W7 or Snow Leopard.  It all comes down to what ever is best for you.

Kind of like us.

-Sandy(regex rules!)

WOW Sandy You and I must be around the same Youth !  Been there done that ! I learned on some of them wood burners ! Even wired up some of them sorters and collators ! 
My kids really think it's funny when they go to the Museum of science and industry and see equipment on display I worked on !
Anyway I've graduated from IBM 360-20's to Laptop / Destops with XP Pro.

Jamie

My trusty XP laptop.

My new computer that arrived today with Windows 07.
Andrew

"Once Mac, never back."

PC is for people who want an overwhelming amount of frustration in their lives... and to have to buy another computer every couple of years.

Rachel

Quote from: jamie lee on December 02, 2009, 10:28:35 PM
Even wired up some of them sorters and collators ! 
My kids really think it's funny when they go to the Museum of science and industry and see equipment on display I worked on !
Anyway I've graduated from IBM 360-20's to Laptop / Destops with XP Pro.

Jamie

I didn't mention the 407 I wired because I thought no one would have even believed it.

The first time I went to the Museum of Science and Industry and saw the display of hardware in the IBM exhibit I about cried when I saw a 360/40 of the vintage I used in collage.  I was very nearly expelled when the dean of the department caught me and my other geek friends hacking DOS.  The only thing that kept us from getting thrown out was that we did it so well that even he had to admire it.  Had we been any less slick in our hacking he would have thrown us out on our collective ears.

My kids say that when I die that they'll have me stuffed and mounted in the IBM exhibit next to that 360/40.

My first job as an operator was on 3rd shift running a 360/30.  And I know what the LP red light means.  That was the only machine that had morning sickness.

-Sandy

iMac 24", Mac Book Pro running leopard at the moment.

Oh, and there is also a dust collecting Vista PC sitting over there.

PC with windows something. Limited by what the IT people at work will allow on the Network.

I have Vista on another laptop, which I seldom use (don't ask) How easy is it to replace Vista with W7 and will that make it usable by a person (not me) who has VERY basic knowledge and has a degree of brain injury, so things have to basically be point and click.

Cindy

Quote from: Sandy on December 02, 2009, 11:18:34 PM
I didn't mention the 407 I wired because I thought no one would have even believed it.

The first time I went to the Museum of Science and Industry and saw the display of hardware in the IBM exhibit I about cried when I saw a 360/40 of the vintage I used in collage.  I was very nearly expelled when the dean of the department caught me and my other geek friends hacking DOS.  The only thing that kept us from getting thrown out was that we did it so well that even he had to admire it.  Had we been any less slick in our hacking he would have thrown us out on our collective ears.

My kids say that when I die that they'll have me stuffed and mounted in the IBM exhibit next to that 360/40.

My first job as an operator was on 3rd shift running a 360/30.  And I know what the LP red light means.  That was the only machine that had morning sickness.

-Sandy

Hmm we're of similar vintage then

I started using an early PDP-8 and a small Honeywell at school in 1974

I progressed to an ITT Modular-1 and PDP-11 before moveing on to a Norsk-data ND100 and a Vax Venus, on which I did some work for NASA.

I've also written (in 1983) a 32 bit multi-taking embedded operating system which controlled some test equipment that NASA bought from us.

Up until the late 1980's most of my personal computers were either self built, like a NASCOM80 or a tangerine, or they were hobyist ones like a TRS80 which I got in 1978.

I didn't get into PC's or Macs until quite late my first was a PC running an early version of os2, but I quickly got into macs as by then I was working in broadcasting at BBC television and not in computers. From then on I became progressively more non technical and today I'm strictly a user.

All good fun though.

Jenny x.

Macs are pretty sweet out-of-the-box for artistic types, but it's kind of a self-perpetuating stereotype at this point -- because arty types tend to purchase Macs, Mac tends to slightly tilt their specs toward arty applications.

On the other hand, it's fairly easy, and often cheaper, to build a PC oneself that can exceed standard Mac specs.  Macs also fail when one wants or needs to upgrade later but would simply prefer not to replace the whole thing.  Of course, Macs excell in space-saving design and, i admit, even my half-sized and ostensibly "portable" PC tower can seem rather bulky when compared to the current generation of Macs.

Macs, at this point, are pretty much a status symbol and more bourgeoisie than utilitarian.  They're essentially form over function these days when, at one point, their cost actually reflected quality.

Quote from: YoungSoulRebel on December 03, 2009, 02:56:15 AM
Macs are pretty sweet out-of-the-box for artistic types, but it's kind of a self-perpetuating stereotype at this point -- because arty types tend to purchase Macs, Mac tends to slightly tilt their specs toward arty applications.

On the other hand, it's fairly easy, and often cheaper, to build a PC oneself that can exceed standard Mac specs.  Macs also fail when one wants or needs to upgrade later but would simply prefer not to replace the whole thing.  Of course, Macs excell in space-saving design and, i admit, even my half-sized and ostensibly "portable" PC tower can seem rather bulky when compared to the current generation of Macs.

Macs, at this point, are pretty much a status symbol and more bourgeoisie than utilitarian.  They're essentially form over function these days when, at one point, their cost actually reflected quality.

Spot on analysis! :) All of it exactly why I use a mac. I'm one of those irritating ex-tech-neo-arty types. We're like ex-smokers ;)

Quote from: rejennyrated on December 03, 2009, 03:02:33 AM
Spot on analysis! :) All of it exactly why I use a mac. I'm one of those irritating ex-tech-neo-arty types. We're like ex-smokers ;)

As an independent musician, I feel I can say with confidence that my soundcard is superior to a Mac's.   ;)  And I've got a 1tera external with a sexy-blue-light underglow ($90 on New Egg).  And $250 harmon/kardon speakers found on Craig's List for $20.  Flatscreen 4:3 high-def monitor bought for $25 off my room-mate's father, who's a retired engineer.  :D  Everything in the computer case itself totalled about $900, and the case was $60 on New Egg.  Still works out to be cheaper than a Mac of similar efficiency and specs.

A lot has to do with the difference between your computer being a tool or a toy - and it can be both.  I think that for a lot of people the ability to play with it, change all the stuff, the tinker-toy aspect of a PC has a lot of attraction as someone who is really in to X can go out and buy the state of the art Y gadget (sound card, graphics card) and get what they want.  For those who use these things more as tools, well when I want a hammer I don't necessaraly want to go out and forge it myself, I just want to bang a few nails and drop it back on the floor.

The PC is hampered in a lot of ways by the court cases that prohibited Window's from 'bundling' software, yet oddly, bundling software is exactly what makes an Apple so easy to use. That the various programs work so well together, all use the same basic interfaces, and are kinda generic gives the apple a much more mundane down-to-earth and easy to use feeling.

I think there are 'cultural' factors also - as in you tend to use what's around you the most.  If everyone at work is using Apples its just easier to use an Apple.

I'm a Mac girl.

right now PC, 20 minutes ago mac, yesterday *nix.

I hate mac vs PC flame wars... 

Happy Mac

I have a mac laptop. A power book G4, if I remember correct. And I also have an alienware PC that is my desktop. Both serve me well. There is a trade off to each system and I have debated in a similar discussion many times before since I go to a techy school and all my friends are geeks. so I wont bother going into detail if not for sheer laziness.

Quote from: tekla on December 03, 2009, 11:36:43 AM
A lot has to do with the difference between your computer being a tool or a toy - and it can be both.  I think that for a lot of people the ability to play with it, change all the stuff, the tinker-toy aspect of a PC has a lot of attraction as someone who is really in to X can go out and buy the state of the art Y gadget (sound card, graphics card) and get what they want.  For those who use these things more as tools, well when I want a hammer I don't necessaraly want to go out and forge it myself, I just want to bang a few nails and drop it back on the floor.

LOL -- you obviously know a whole lot of nothing much about tools -- or "toys".

To a musician, especially one who has a home studio (thus doing one's own recording), a high-spec sound card is a Tool.  The ability to replace or upgrade that soundcard is a Tool.  Te ability to save previously recorded music conveniently on an internal storage drive or high-yeild external harddrive is a Tool.

On the other hand, if you want a high-priced monitor attached to a HD the size of your fist that can't store a file recorded in ProTools without an external piece of hardware, but can log you onto the Internet and run a word processing program, you want a Toy.

Tools are designed for a specific purpose -- and even hammers come in different sizes and weights and materials dependent on what they're intended to pound.  Go ahead -- use a tack hammer to put two 2"x4" thick planks together, I dare you.

Quote from: Sandy on December 02, 2009, 11:18:34 PM
I didn't mention the 407 I wired because I thought no one would have even believed it.

The first time I went to the Museum of Science and Industry and saw the display of hardware in the IBM exhibit I about cried when I saw a 360/40 of the vintage I used in collage.  I was very nearly expelled when the dean of the department caught me and my other geek friends hacking DOS.  The only thing that kept us from getting thrown out was that we did it so well that even he had to admire it.  Had we been any less slick in our hacking he would have thrown us out on our collective ears.

My kids say that when I die that they'll have me stuffed and mounted in the IBM exhibit next to that 360/40.

My first job as an operator was on 3rd shift running a 360/30.  And I know what the LP red light means.  That was the only machine that had morning sickness.

-Sandy

Those were fun times ! for little pay. I started out as an operator on the 360/20's with MFCM's and wiring the 407 and 501 accounting machines and sorters !

Later I became an applications programmer, did that until 2000 when I got tired of taking the 3 am calls for people who didn't test their programs.

Now I'm a desktop support person, and also specialize in the telecom area.
But when I was still working (laid off) ,  still got the 3 AM support calls.! (LOL)

Jamie

Quote from: rejennyrated on December 03, 2009, 02:53:04 AM
Hmm we're of similar vintage then

I started using an early PDP-8 and a small Honeywell at school in 1974

I progressed to an ITT Modular-1 and PDP-11 before moveing on to a Norsk-data ND100 and a Vax Venus, on which I did some work for NASA.

I've also written (in 1983) a 32 bit multi-taking embedded operating system which controlled some test equipment that NASA bought from us.

Up until the late 1980's most of my personal computers were either self built, like a NASCOM80 or a tangerine, or they were hobyist ones like a TRS80 which I got in 1978.

I didn't get into PC's or Macs until quite late my first was a PC running an early version of os2, but I quickly got into macs as by then I was working in broadcasting at BBC television and not in computers. From then on I became progressively more non technical and today I'm strictly a user.

All good fun though.

Jenny x.

Ya Honeywell's and Trash 80's ! Played with some of them too !

Yep all 3 of us are showing our Vintage ! ;)

Jamie

I hated checking that PC choice but I can't lie. I'm at work on my stupid PC.

Wish I was at home on my Mac.

Quote from: jamie lee on December 03, 2009, 09:43:42 PM
Those were fun times ! for little pay. I started out as an operator on the 360/20's with MFCM's and wiring the 407 and 501 accounting machines and sorters !

Later I became an applications programmer, did that until 2000 when I got tired of taking the 3 am calls for people who didn't test their programs.

Now I'm a desktop support person, and also specialize in the telecom area.
But when I was still working (laid off) ,  still got the 3 AM support calls.! (LOL)

Jamie
Ya Honeywell's and Trash 80's ! Played with some of them too !

Yep all 3 of us are showing our Vintage ! ;)

Jamie

OK.  Here is a quiz for all you grey hairs out there.  I would say greybeards, but I don't have mine anymore.

What does B.U.N.C.H stand for?

Hint: Note that while one of the letters are a B none of them stand for I.B.M.

-Sandy

Hi Sandy

I'm guessing it might be

Burroughs
Univac
NCT
Control-Data
Honeywell

Which if you leave out IBM and ICL were the main business computing suppliers of mainframes. DEC of course specialised in scientific computing and so doesn't count.

You see, I really am that old! :o

But I'm probably on the wrong track...

Quote from: rejennyrated on December 04, 2009, 03:12:32 PM
Hi Sandy

I'm guessing it might be

Burroughs
Univac
NCT
Control-Data
Honeywell

Which if you leave out IBM and ICL were the main business computing suppliers of mainframes. DEC of course specialised in scientific computing and so doesn't count.

You see, I really am that old! :o

But I'm probably on the wrong track...

Ding, Ding, ding, ding!  Thank you for playing!  You win!

Actually it was NCR not NCT, but close enough.  And Control Data was often referred to as CDC.  When they made the movie "Colossus: The Forbin Project" (Gawd what a terrible movie, though the book wasn't bad), they used CDC's for the props.

CDC was considered to be the supercomputer manufacturer of the industry, though IBM one year sold three 360/195's and damn near bankrupted CDC.

During the 60's through the 80's, IBM so dominated the general purpose computer hardware market that the combined sales of all their competitors did not add up to the sales that IBM had.  And in the trade rags the industry was often referred to as IBM and the BUNCH.

Any more "grey" trivia buffs out there?

-Sandy

Quote from: Sandy on December 04, 2009, 03:22:24 PM
Actually it was NCR not NCT, but close enough.

Ah senior Brainfart! - yes of course NCR as in National Cash Register, and before they made electronic computers they used to make a horrible mechanical beast called, if I recall, a tabulator. It made a noise like an express train - and nearly shook itself to bits when working.  We had one at my first place of work.

Ok let me try and see if I can come up with a question then...

What was the title of the first computer generated music - or the name of the computer which generated it?

(mind you we might want to move this to a thread in the fun section or we'll be accused of hijacking!)

Quote from: rejennyrated on December 04, 2009, 03:30:08 PM
(mind you we might want to move this to a thread in the fun section or we'll be accused of hijacking!)

Check it out:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,69082.new.html#new (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,69082.new.html#new)

We now return this thread to it's OS centric religious mayhem...

-Sandy

I'm on the PC that I built, that WISHES it were a Mac!

(in other words, it'd be a Mac if I could afford it)

On a Mac at my college.

PC with Ubuntu GNU/Linux

It's nice to see so many people mention Linux, by the way!  It seems that Mac and Linux users are very well represented in our community.

I'm reading this, at present, on an old Gateway Essential desktop PC that was kaputt - I replaced the DVD-ROM drive and installed Linux (Puppy Dingo 4.00) on it.  It's alright - it's basically a backup computer for when my XP desktop cruds out (as it recently has).  :)

I'm a mac man  ;)

PC and Linux rock!  Still waiting for HaikuOS though.  By the way, Netbooks are PCs, just smaller.  :P

PC all the way ;)

Mac is the only way to go.  I have several plus an iPhone.

I am very flexible so I can use either platform. I own a PC running Windows Vista yet I love a strong love for Macs.

Mac, although I still run Windows on it as well as some Linux based operating systems.

I'm on a PC which I prefer but I'm running vista. I HATE Vista. Too many problems, too many updates. However when it's a choice between Testosterone or new laptop I pick starting T plus lately vista has been issue free :)

I swapped my xp laptop for a mac book pro and definitely don't regret it. I still have my old XP studio daw, but rarely fire it up anymore (just not interested in music production at the moment it seems). I may eventually set up an xp install on a portable HD with bootcamp on the mac book and buy a firewire soundcard.

as for which i prefer I doubt I'll ever buy a windows machine again, i've been spoilt rotten by the multi touch track pad on my mac.

Windows 7 PC, but I use Ubuntu Linux for programming, also I have installed Mac OSX on my PC but had to delete the partition because of HDD mess-ups. Ideally I'd like a Mac since I did love Logic Pro while I could use it, but I use FL Studio now on Windows.

Number of years my iBook has been running and on-line = 6
number of virus etc = 0
number of crashes = 0
satisfaction = 100%

Once you have a Mac, you never go back! LOL

Mac Pro Desktop Dual Quad blah-blah-blah, and whatevah the hell else it comes with.

Linux      :icon_geekdance:

I never donated to the Bill Gates Retirement Fund (never bought anything made by Microsoft). Same for Apple.

But, I used an Amiga from 1990 - 2003. And, I'm considering getting the new model.

Right now, android. But if I wasnt on my phone it would either be opensuse or ubuntu depending on which laptop im on

27" HP moniter hooked to HP Pavilion Elite HPE. running four core i7's.,  8 Gb ram, dual 1.3 Tb disks set SATA dual, with two stand alone 1.3 Tb back up disks. That's all hooked up to a HP designjet 130nr, 24" wide. Paper comes in most types and grades on 50 ft rolls, or I can hand feed front or rear load and of course there is the tray.
Works great with my Nikon D7000.
I love the whole set-up. Yeah I know apple people just puking over it, but I had an apple Imac once and it was the worst computer I have ever used. And I have even used Digital Computers (anyone remember them?)  It beats going to walmart or whoever to get the nice big pictures, and I have an amazing amount of control over the outcome of each one. A 2'x3' costs me about 15 bucks, once everything is said and done. Frames are a whole nuther story. There are to many people with money that are gawdily in bad taste.

I'm just sorry that HP chicken out and decided to go golfing or whatever they are going to do....

Ativan

ps. I have a Toshiba notebook that runs windows Vista, so my computers can talk to each other fairly well.
I ususally don't use it, its just extra weight most times. I can hold64 Gb of storage in my camera, that's very sufficient, most occasions.

Acer Windows Vista Notebook.
Can't afford anything else. :(

I have a custom built PC running win7 64. It has its quirks, but is really stable from what I've seen, I have yet to BSOD. Most of my issues have either been hardware or bad configuration(silly bethesda)

PC with VISTA. Had XP and SUSE Linux on the other laptop. If it wasn't for Apple bringing Jobs back in 96', we would all probably be using a Mac Clone.

Anymore they are both more similar than different.  There are a few proprietary programs that only work in one or the other, but everyone I know is pretty much expected to work on both interchangeably.  Because anymore it costs me far less than the cost of a computer to replace the person who only knows one with someone who knows both.

Quote from: tekla on August 23, 2011, 11:34:56 PM
Anymore they are both more similar than different.  There are a few proprietary programs that only work in one or the other, but everyone I know is pretty much expected to work on both interchangeably.  Because anymore it costs me far less than the cost of a computer to replace the person who only knows one with someone who knows both.

...that sounded somewhat like this... :laugh:

"    [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know we know.
We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.    "

—Former United States Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld

I love that statement.  You realize that in 3 years he got us in so deep in two different wars that 7 years later we're still unable to get out of.

Tekla u so wise, i wanna be like u when i grow up! :laugh:

Well if you want to be like me the first thing you have to do is NOT grow up.

LOL! :laugh:

It's an old theater joke.

The mother takes her child to their first big show and the kid is so impressed they say "Mom, when I grow up I want to work in theater too." and the mom looks at the child and says "don't be silly dear, you can't do both."

I am running on Debian Linux (testing branch), but the hardware is PC hardware, though so are macs nowadays basically.

Ever since my MacBook Pro broke because of shoddy Apple parts I have been using a PC and so far have had no significant issues. Macs seem fine for some people, artists and musicians seem to like them, and if you are rich (both to buy it in the first place and to fix it later), but this engineer is going to stick with PCs now. The MacBook Pro also has heat issues, where it can get very hot under load, even with fans at max, though on the model that I had the fans would never spin themselves up to max when needed, I had to do it manually with a 3rd party tool.

My Macbook has not as much as sneezed in two years.

The typing programme has a number of functions I like (such as the one that blocks out all other information so emails etc don't disturb, the ability to micro-manage the format - indeed, formatting in general much easier).

There are some programmes I miss out on, especially the odd game - but for someone who uses their computer for typing, surfing webpages and playing around with the odd sound/image/movie file - it's perfect.

Quote from: SusanKC on November 22, 2009, 02:18:40 AM
Love it, love it.  I often want to start a fire in mine too!

That's easy to do. Just unplug the fan.

Typing this on an ageing Mac Mini with dead optical and hard drives (running off externals). So much for Apple's legendary build quality.

There really should be a Linux option in the poll. All a bit "binary" like this with only PC/Mac; and on a transgender site of all places!

I voted Apple because I'm on my iPhone...but usually I'm on my PC.

Since the question was pertaining to right now, I voted Apple. :)

PC all the way

I'm loving all these realllllllly old threads that the newbies are bringing back to life.