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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: owl on December 29, 2009, 07:07:59 PM

Title: Do I pass?
Post by: owl on December 29, 2009, 07:07:59 PM
Hello, My name is Magen, currently I like the name Grey as my first name. I am to the left in the picture
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e190/lil_strawzberryz/magenkatiesat.jpg (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e190/lil_strawzberryz/magenkatiesat.jpg)

and

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e190/lil_strawzberryz/008.jpg (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e190/lil_strawzberryz/008.jpg)

:)

Thanks
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: GamerJames on December 29, 2009, 07:40:17 PM
You look really young, but you look like a young guy and not a young girl. :)
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: owl on December 29, 2009, 07:43:27 PM
Thats nice to hear I look young though. Its not the first time i've heard that, thanks :)




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Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: VampyreAri on December 29, 2009, 07:54:45 PM
You definitely look like a guy. But I'd probably put your appearance age at around... 14. So, if you're 17, that's not TOO far off. :) Lucky.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: owl on December 29, 2009, 07:55:36 PM
oh man
D:

I hope testosterone will change this :)
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: VampyreAri on December 29, 2009, 07:59:14 PM
T would probably really do good for you, especially cause you're starting from pretty boyish anyway. And pre-T, those who can pass almost always look younger than their age. It's just kinda how it works, so don't worry about it too much.  :D
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: owl on December 29, 2009, 08:00:22 PM
I'm thinking about going around and doing a survey, asking people if they think i'm a boy or girl
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: VampyreAri on December 29, 2009, 08:02:52 PM
Well something like that would probably be skewed if you asked people in-person. Because chances are your voice would still give you away and people would respond girl just because of that.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: owl on December 29, 2009, 08:11:52 PM
true, do you know if someone that is a paranoid schizophrentic would be allowed to take T?

BTW here is another picture of me

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e190/lil_strawzberryz/038.jpg (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e190/lil_strawzberryz/038.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Lachlann on December 29, 2009, 08:12:27 PM
I'd say you do, but a great deal about passing is about how you present yourself in the physical world, not just photos from specific angles.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: tekla on December 29, 2009, 08:35:42 PM
It's not just a picture deal, it's a total package, there are lots of things that serve as 'clues' in our determination, its not just a facial look, or clothes.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: GamerJames on December 29, 2009, 08:37:38 PM
Quote from: VampyreAri on December 29, 2009, 08:02:52 PM
Well something like that would probably be skewed if you asked people in-person. Because chances are your voice would still give you away and people would respond girl just because of that.

I agree with this, and also, just the fact that you're asking, would probably make people think twice and go "Oh, I thought that was a boy, but since he's asking... maybe he's a girl after all?" Just sayin'... :)

Also:
Quote from: Lachlann on December 29, 2009, 08:12:27 PM
I'd say you do, but a great deal about passing is about how you present yourself in the physical world, not just photos from specific angles.
^This^ and...

Quote from: tekla on December 29, 2009, 08:35:42 PM
It's not just a picture deal, it's a total package, there are lots of things that serve as 'clues' in our determination, its not just a facial look, or clothes.
^This^ :)
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: tekla on December 29, 2009, 08:45:35 PM
I could tell more by how you pour and drink a beer (or anything really) than by a picture.  And I could tell it across a dark bar.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Mark on December 29, 2009, 11:37:06 PM
def pass just by looking

Mark
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: owl on December 29, 2009, 11:57:58 PM
these are all exciting thank you :)
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: owl on December 30, 2009, 01:38:08 AM
thanks man
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Silver on December 30, 2009, 02:43:41 AM
You look pretty passable to me.

But yeah, whole package and all that.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Jay on December 30, 2009, 11:24:36 AM
Yup. Young though but a dude!

Jay
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: notyouraverageguy on December 30, 2009, 02:11:31 PM
You do, rly well imo.
Like a young boy.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: JonasCarminis on December 30, 2009, 10:36:56 PM
Quote from: Damian on December 29, 2009, 08:11:52 PM
true, do you know if someone that is a paranoid schizophrentic would be allowed to take T?

it probably depends on how in touch with reality the person was and if the gender issues are stemmed from something other than "GID"
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Amur on December 30, 2009, 11:38:47 PM
I agree with everyone else, I'd say young guy but mannerisms/voice could tip people off.

Quote from: Damian on December 29, 2009, 07:07:59 PM
currently I like the name Grey as my first name

Greys of the world unite!  Heh, sorry, that's my first name.  It works really well for having others think of you as male while being ambiguous enough that if you're not 'out' to to your family, they don't really question it.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Wolf Man on January 10, 2010, 05:43:57 PM
The little things count, just as all the experienced men here have mentioned. But you do pass IMO, anywhere from 14-17 is what you appear.  :)
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Dante on January 10, 2010, 11:37:27 PM
You look like a guy that was in my class a few years ago! You look about 14-15, but definitely male! You look cool.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Myself on January 11, 2010, 04:23:07 AM
I don't think you look like a boy at all O_o
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Silver on January 11, 2010, 04:25:17 AM
Quote from: Myself on January 11, 2010, 04:23:07 AM
I don't think you look like a boy at all O_o

Meh, now I'll agree that his features are generally pretty feminine. But what people are seeing as male is the slim face, since men just tend to have vertically longer faces (that are larger overall anyway. But young boys don't have huge man-faces.)
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Myself on January 11, 2010, 04:39:55 AM
Quote from: SilverFang on January 11, 2010, 04:25:17 AM
Meh, now I'll agree that his features are generally pretty feminine. But what people are seeing as male is the slim face, since men just tend to have vertically longer faces (that are larger overall anyway. But young boys don't have huge man-faces.)

I disagree, he looks like a girl and not even a tomboy or a lesbian like many people sometimes look.
Especially in the first photo where he looks very girly.

I will take the very back and say not so much due to the hair style and maybe cloths, be he looks quite girly in the way that he doesn't want to be seen.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Silver on January 11, 2010, 05:02:49 AM
Quote from: Myself on January 11, 2010, 04:39:55 AM
I disagree, he looks like a girl and not even a tomboy or a lesbian like many people sometimes look.
Especially in the first photo where he looks very girly.

I will take the very back and say not so much due to the hair style and maybe cloths, be he looks quite girly in the way that he doesn't want to be seen.

Alright. It never really seems that people have the guts to say that someone doesn't pass. So it's cool that you do. I think I'd be confused, then assume male. But I go to a high school, and feminine guys aren't too uncommon. I think I'm just used to it.