I asked this in another forum, but didn't get any responses. I think it might have been in the wrong section anyway.
I'm having surgery with Dr. Suporn in less than 2 months. I just wanted to know how people felt about scars after the surgery. How visible, etc.
This isn't going to change my mind about anything, I just want to get other peoples thoughts and feedback.
Please let me know.
Valerie
hey i'm scheduled for mar/apr so i may be right behind you in the queue ;)
Hey both Val and Milktea, my SRS with Suporn is March 12 so it seems it's pretty likely I'll be seeing you both there. Just found out I'm going it solo so that's pretty nervewracking... but I heard it's one of the best places to be for aftercare and I'm not too concerned. We should find a way to keep in touch, and wow, we all seem rather young too!
That sounds like it could be fun.
I'm sorry you have to go solo, but I have heard a lot of good things about their aftercare too.
I'm hoping (fingers crossed) that I can hit some beaches (even if I can't go swimming) after, but I have a feeling I might not be feeling to great. It would be nice to catch a little sun cause I'm getting tired of NY snow and cold.
Milktea what dates are you going to be there?
I think it's cool that we're all young too!
Hi Valerie!
I'm about six months post-op from Dr Suporn, so if you have any questions about anything I'm happy to help. :D
I was worried about scarring too, but I'm amazed at how little there is already, and it will probably still diminish over time. The only visible scars are the incisions on either side, and these are slight enough and a similar colour to the neighbouring skin that they blend in fairly well, and are, I think, very difficult to see if you have a little hair down there. They may be more visible if you go hairless though. I have a tendency to scar fairly easily and nastily, so yours may be even less noticable.
I had an incision above the clitoral hood as a revision before I left (Dr Suporn is an absolute perfectionist and may give you a revision before you leave if he thinks the result can be made even better, if this happens just roll with it) and the incision there is only visible if you are really looking hard for it; I have trouble locating it now. The scars from my boob job were more noticable than from SRS, and those scars have faded nicely too.
If you are wanting to catch up with eachother there are plenty of opportunities! Everyone meets in the restaurant of the hotel for breakfast and dinner, and there is plenty of socialising at the clinic during the day.
Make sure you sign up for the day trips! They go to the beach house, the elephant shows, the beautiful gardens, the floating markets, the jewelry market and other places. Just don't forget your donut cushion! ;D
Lovelovelove Xxx
I just hope I have the energy to do all of that stuff! I am rather bummed out I can't bring my guitar but I am going to at least try to bring my ukelele to keep me occupied. I'm pretty excited, only a few weeks until I'm on the plane going from healthy and active to recovery. It's pretty hilarious how the thing I dread the most is the flight, as I do not fly well and the notion of spanning an entire ocean is kind of a really daunting thing but once I am there it will hit me. I can do it though, I'm sure.
Thanks for offering to be here though, it's very appreciated!
Most reasonably competant surgeons now-a-days seem to be pretty good avoiding too much scaring.
I do suggest to you that, between now and your ops, you eat good food, drink lots of fresh water, some basic exercise and fresh air and generally build your health. No alcohol.
Healthy people recover so much better than unhealthy ones. Don't take food suppliments unless directed though.
Apart from that, if any of you fancys swapping places........... :D
Quote from: Birdie on January 25, 2010, 02:12:01 AM
Hi Valerie!
I'm about six months post-op from Dr Suporn, so if you have any questions about anything I'm happy to help. :D
I was worried about scarring too, but I'm amazed at how little there is already, and it will probably still diminish over time. The only visible scars are the incisions on either side, and these are slight enough and a similar colour to the neighbouring skin that they blend in fairly well, and are, I think, very difficult to see if you have a little hair down there. They may be more visible if you go hairless though. I have a tendency to scar fairly easily and nastily, so yours may be even less noticable.
Lovelovelove Xxx
Hi Birdie,
Did you try any kind of oil/salve on the scars, like vitamin E or bio-Oil ?
I'm at 2.5 weeks post op, and know exactly what scar lines you are talking about, as they are still wounds on me, but I thought after they heal in a couple months (if you apply too soon, it can cause granulations/irregularities), I might try bioOil, it touts being able to remove discoloration. It worked pretty good on my FFS scars from a year ago. (still using it).
Ohhhh, and best wishes and happy healing to the other women posting here that are going to Chonburi... you're in good hands with Dr Suporn and his wonderfuly staff! (10 more days here, hoping I don't need a revision before leaving, so far so good ! lol.....)
*huggs*,
Melan
Quote from: Melan on February 06, 2010, 02:25:28 AM
Did you try any kind of oil/salve on the scars, like vitamin E or bio-Oil ?
Nope, I only used the dermazine and betadine that the clinic provided. I thought about using something to diminish the scars, but I wasn't sure which treatments were best and there was so much conflicting information floating about that in the end I just gave up! :)
Although I have heard that massage can help scar tissue, so maybe the swirling motion of dynamic dilation may help massage that tissue? The clinic may even have recommendations for how to minimize scarring, they are full of useful information! Especially Sophie, she's a life saver. :D
Quote from: Birdie on February 06, 2010, 03:46:15 AM
Although I have heard that massage can help scar tissue, so maybe the swirling motion of dynamic dilation may help massage that tissue? The clinic may even have recommendations for how to minimize scarring, they are full of useful information! Especially Sophie, she's a life saver. :D
Be careful with massage on healed wounds.
The skin is made of of layers. Massage moves the top layers over the lower. On healthy skin it can cause tissue breakdown. In scar tissue, it can cause wounds to open.
In hospitals, for many years, nurses use to give bedbound patinents regular back rubs using oil and meth. This is no-longer done because it was discovered it dows more harm than good, for this very reason.
Even applying topical medications is now recommended to be done gently.
Scar formation is generally a matter of how the surgeon cuts. If it's going to happen it will.
hey valerie and shryke sorry to say it looks like i won't be able to go in april after all... :'( financial problems...argg...but do fill me in on your experience and wish you guys the best of luck and a most speedy recovery!!!
I'm butting in a bit because Adrianna wanted me to ask, What is the price to go with this person? Just the SRS. i'm looking on the site but mabie i'm not looking in the right place? Are there payment optoions..
Hi Ethan.
Hopefully someone will get back to you, but in the meantime, this is Dr. Suporn's site which gives a lot of details.
http://www.supornclinic.com/ (http://www.supornclinic.com/)
It looks so good.
495,000 baht
at time of posting (xe.com)
495,000.00 THB = 14,898.42 USD
495,000.00 THB = 15,500.249 CAD
495,000.00 THB = 9,533.6923 GBP
495,000.00 THB = 10,941.451 EUR
Just wanted to say that I'm at the airport waiting for my flight. I'll be in Bangkok tomorrow!
Wish me luck.
Shryke, I'll see you there?
Good luck Valerie! Enjoy the adventure! ;D
Good luck Valerie, enjoy Thailand, it is a great place. Please keep us updated on your progress.
Shelly
xx
Congrats! Have a great flight and please keep us informed!!
Take care and all that jazz, try not to die in cattle class on the way back. :P
Good luck Valerie!
Quote from: Valerie Elizabeth on February 20, 2010, 07:37:19 AM
Just wanted to say that I'm at the airport waiting for my flight. I'll be in Bangkok tomorrow!
Wish me luck.
Shryke, I'll see you there?
Best Wishes and Good Luck!
*huggs*,
Melan
best of luck! wish i were there too :(
Well, I made it through surgery. I've been post op for about 27 hours. Pain is bearable now, but was pretty bad the first 12 hours.
Dr Suporn is really nice, and all of his staff are very nice as well.
Hospital food here is not bad at all.
Just an update.
congrats Valerie im soo happy for you
i was only allowed the soup so the food got a little meh for me im glad you made it through, dont be frightened to ask for pain relief, they gave it really fast.
you made it to the other side, well done again (bigg hug), mines nov 30th yay!!!!!!!!!!
Congrats! Another one down! There's so many of us having our SRS this year, so many very happy people. I can't wait to be celebrating my own victory getting over that last hurdle! Only 29 days until I leave to join the pack!
Congratulations again and hang in there!
~Sarah
congratulations Valerie and good for you! Hope you're feeling lots better very soon. :)
Thanks. The first 24 hours are the worst I think. After that, it has started to get way easier.
wow valerie's back!!! congrats with your new anatomy!!
btw if you have any problem with back pain try sticking a baby pillow underneath your waist :) and bet you can't wait for your first dilation session, wahahahaha....
rawr, congrats!
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Congratulations Valerie! *hugggs*
I am recording your name on to my list. My Goodness, but it is getting long. ::)
Major congrats Valerie!
Thanks again everyone. Morphine is like magic. Makes me have to concentrate really hard on typing.
Pain is pretty tolerable right now. The organ juice is AMAZING. It's like blood orange and pulpy. mhhhmmmm.
Post Merge: February 26, 2010, 11:40:18 PM
Oh, and word of caution. Sunburn is no fun before surgery. I went to Pattaya two days before and got some random burns. I put SPF 70 on twice in four hours and got some random burns. No problwm noww wirh paing killers.
Good luck for you Valerie, it sounds very interesting but SO expensive (based on what FlanHusky posted) but I know that there is different rules for Thais and foreigners, not at Suporn's clinic but I will have my SRS done for "just" 50000 Baht which is about 1000 Euros or 1450 US or 950 Pounds.
But to have it done for this price you need to live in Thailand as well as pay NI in Thailand which I do so I'm guess I'm just lucky with that one as it's big different between 50K and 500K Baht.
What is it with all you youngsters and pain killers? LOL ;)
Actually I really did go through both my ops with nothing stronger than paracetamol, and the nurses all thought I was crazy, which I probably was! :laugh: What they didn't know was that I was more scared of needles than I was of the pain...
More seriously - Glad to hear you made it through ok Valerie. I wish you a speedy recovery and a safe return home.
Valerie congratulations.
It's nice to hear that you have finally had your surgery. Take care and I wish you a speedy recovery.
Hot showers or hot baths will ease the pain, but remember to drink plenty of water.
Kindest regards
Sarah B
I'm pretty amazed at how good my vagina looks 4 days after surgery. I thought it would look a lot worse, but it looks really really good. Pretty swollen, but looks like any other vagina I've ever seen.
I have like zero scaring. I <3 Dr. Suporn. I have a fully sensitive clitoris, as he touched it to check and I can feel it. Best decision of my life.
Quote from: Valerie Elizabeth on February 28, 2010, 08:36:07 PM
I'm pretty amazed at how good my vagina looks 4 days after surgery. I thought it would look a lot worse, but it looks really really good. Pretty swollen, but looks like any other vagina I've ever seen.
I have like zero scaring. I <3 Dr. Suporn. I have a fully sensitive clitoris, as he touched it to check and I can feel it. Best decision of my life.
Thats fantastic, it gets better all the time, its a great feeling when you see your new vagina for the first time, take care, heal well.
p
Hi Janet
I would presume this list is for all those who have had GRS here at Susan's?
Kind regards
Sarah B
It is my "Girls I am Jealous of" list. ;D All the girls who go have surgery go on this list. And maybe, ::), I might get on my list one day, :( :'(
Quote from: Janet Lynn on March 02, 2010, 12:12:20 PMAll the girls who go have surgery go on this list. And maybe, ::), I might get on my list one day, :( :'(
Why just maybe? and how many do you got on your list?
There is at least 100 now. And I need the $$$ to join. :'(
Quote from: Janet Lynn on March 02, 2010, 09:21:04 PMAnd I need the $$$ to join. :'(
Why not Thai Baht? ;D Yes it's expensive but as I live in Thailand I can get mine for about 1K Euro which is VERY good price but only available to Thais.
Even with the exchange rate, it is more than I have or can raise. Being unemployed is a bummer.
Quote from: Janet Lynn on March 02, 2010, 09:29:51 PMBeing unemployed is a bummer.
Sure it is but you got PC and Internet so what more do you need? Start your own business. I did many years ago and never regretted it.
I have tried those before and always got taken.
Quote from: Janet Lynn on March 02, 2010, 09:41:28 PMI have tried those before and always got taken.
Well maybe you spend too much of your time on forums, reading news and watching YouTube. Such things are de-activating the brain so to "check messages and news" becomes the most important of the day. Why I say so? Because you've got almost 8K posts in ONLY this forum and how many other forums do you use?
A PC and Internet is all you need to make money and spending time on creative work is better then spending time (for free) in forums even though forums also need you for sure but you need to ask yourself, what do you get out of it beside living in a caravan?
I am on one forum, here. And everyone of the make money scheme are just that. I would rather have a REAL job. You show me one that I have not tried.
I have been here for quite a while now, that is why it is at 8000 posts.
OK did not want to change the subject of this important thread of Valerie but then I just suggest you start a new thread "How to get Janet into a REAL job"... (like my job is not real ;D) Who knows, you might get some interesting and feasible ideas?
Congrats Valerie E.
I am so envious.
Time for me to get to work and save some $$$.
Or, can I finance this over 60 months?
:icon_bunch: :icon_joy: :icon_walk: :icon_flower: CONGRATS!! ;D :eusa_dance: :eusa_clap: :icon_bunch: :icon_flower:
Thanks everyone. I got discharged from the hospital today. Did my first two dilation sessions, and they weren't painful at all. All I felt was some pressure when I reached the end of my vaginal cavity (which is 7 inches exactly).
All swelling aside, Dr. Suporn gave me a very natural looking vagina and my labias are long enough to cover my vaginal opening similarly to how a natal female's vagina is. My clitoris is sensitive, but my labias are very swollen and don't have any feeling right now. I'm not too worried. I also have almost no visible scar. The scars doesn't go past half way up my vagina. They are like 2 inches long, from vaginal opening forward. Looking from the front, they are not visible.
I am so pleased with Dr. Suporn that I don't know what to say or think. I would recommend him to anyone and everyone who wants MtF SRS. The staff is amazing. Dr. Suporn visited me everyday in the hospital (can't say for the hotel cause it's my first day in the hotel). The clinic staff visited me a couple times every day during my stay the in hospital, as well as having one clinic staff member sleep in the room the night after surgery. The clinic is gorgeous, and Thai Tea is delicious.
Peeing is a little hard as my urethra is a little swollen still, but it comes out generally pretty straight, although sometimes it kinda sprays in a circle all over the place. It's been getting better all day.
The hotel is pretty nice, normal hotel. Nothing to complain about really except for the water and the internet. You get two bottles complementary a day for drinking, but you have to pay for anything more and it's kinda pricey. Order water by the case from the clinic as it's pretty cheap. Might even be cheaper at 7-eleven. The internet costs about $95 for 30 days (in hours) of internet time. It's totally worth it, but expensive. Breakfast is pretty good. The usually have at least one kind of american style food (pancakes [super good], french toast, etc). They also have omelets made to order, eggs, rice and chicken, greens and pork, cereal, yogurt, delicious juice, all sorts of goodies. I love this place. The view beneath the hotel is so-so, but the back ground is gorgeous. I love Thailand.
The hospital is pretty gorgeous. It's currently under renovations so some rooms have a couple extra things in them that are being stored there. X-ray room for example had a stack of chairs. No big deal. Everything was sterile, they all wore gloves, and opened all sharps in front of me. Most nurses wore the masks too. The hospital room is very nice, and the bed is super comfy. I have to admit, I was the first patient to try out their new air bed and it was totally awesome. If they get good feedback (which they did from me) they are going to get them for all the SRS patients rooms. The nurses were very prompt when I called for them, and stuck to a strict painkiller schedule. I was only allowed so much morphine, paracetamol, and tramadol. I thought the food was very good, and the menu was pretty awesome. My only complaint about the hospital is the internet. about $6.00 a day for internet. About $50 for my 8 days in the hospital. To me, it's totally worth it. I needed to keep in contact with my friends and family.
Also, there is a safe in the hospital room and the hotel room large enough for my tote purse full of stuff, my macbook, and my dilator box.
Quote from: michellesofl on March 03, 2010, 01:52:01 AM
Congrats Valerie E.
I am so envious.
Time for me to get to work and save some $$$.
Or, can I finance this over 60 months?
I wish he offered financing, but it's totally worth it. You should take a loan or do something to finance it. It's very much the best decision I've ever made. I'm glad I chose him.
Oh and guys, can we keep on topic. I don't want people flaming eachother, especially when this is a happy time for me. Please, if you want to bitch at eachother take it to PM's.
just amazing to read again Valerie
i only came back form chonburi for ffs 2 weeks ago so all your experiences are really strong and fond memories, my srs is in nov and i cannot wait to return and see everone at the lcinic, the treatment, healthcare and Wow an airbed please please say yes get more my only complaint that with the bed topper I still came out with a horrid bed sore that took a while to clear.
Im overjoyed for you though, there were so many girls there having srs and feeling like you were, it's a magical moment for you and I hope you heal really fast and perfectly
Bigg huggiE and all my love
hey val would you care to elaborate on the scars? how many cuts are there and are they at the front or back of the vagina?
Great news Valerie. I am sorry that got out of hand. I only stated my opinion and it began.
I am really happy for you. Be careful on the flight home.
It is all about you now, Hon.
It is really good to hear how you are progressing. Enjoy the rest of your stay and holiday. But above all take care and have a safe trip home.
Remember these days as they are priceless, because I remember mine like it was only yesterday.
Kind regards
Sarah B
Quote from: Valerie Elizabeth on March 04, 2010, 07:00:02 AM
Thanks everyone. I got discharged from the hospital today.
Congrats Val!
Nice depth, woman!
You already touched your lips? I was afraid to for the first 3 weeks, lol! Brave territory you walk ;)
Do you hiss when you pee?
Sounds like your doing great, congrats again! So exciting to see how happy you are, it's like reliving it .
Enjoy the weather, big *huggs*,
Melan
I know someone that just had SRS with Dr Supporn. She is 1 wk out and has already told me that she had two orgasms already. He does the inner mucosa, so you will have the pinkish color. I had mine with Dr. Meltzer an i am 6 months out 6-1/4" while she said she is 8", but may shrink to about 7". So great depth and very senate, not only on the clitoral area, but she says everywhere. Wish i kinda would a went with him, as i am still having to take at least 20mins to get the #3 dilator all the way to the 6" mark and is sore.
Quote from: milktea on March 04, 2010, 08:06:16 AM
hey val would you care to elaborate on the scars? how many cuts are there and are they at the front or back of the vagina?
I have no idea how many cuts there are, but the only major ones are on the side where the thigh meets the pubic area. they go from the vaginal opening. There are incisions on the labia minora, but on the inside, and they are not visible. There is a small incision above the clitoris, but it's not really visible (like teeny tiny). The scars are short. On his website, some of them look really long, but mine are very short, and don't go any higher than maybe the base of my clitoris? It's hard to say. They don't look like they are going to be that visible anyway. I feel like they will blend when it's all healed.
Quote from: Melan on March 04, 2010, 05:18:58 PM
You already touched your lips? I was afraid to for the first 3 weeks, lol! Brave territory you walk ;)
Do you hiss when you pee?
I didn't think it would hurt to touch them a little. I didn't move them around or anything. Just gently trying to see if I had sensation.
And yes, I hiss when I pee (sometimes, more so for the first week, no really anymore).
Quote from: Michelle Hayden on March 18, 2010, 02:36:10 AM
I know someone that just had SRS with Dr Supporn. She is 1 wk out and has already told me that she had two orgasms already. He does the inner mucosa, so you will have the pinkish color. I had mine with Dr. Meltzer an i am 6 months out 6-1/4" while she said she is 8", but may shrink to about 7". So great depth and very senate, not only on the clitoral area, but she says everywhere. Wish i kinda would a went with him, as i am still having to take at least 20mins to get the #3 dilator all the way to the 6" mark and is sore.
I am 3 weeks out today. I haven't orgasmed, but I am definitely sensate. I haven't tried to really masturbate, and when I dilate (which is laborious I might add - but easy) I just do it and get it over with. I still have about 7 inches of depth. Depends on the day, whether I'm doing static or dynamic dilation, bowel movements, etc. I've had 6 3/4 inches to 7 1/4 inches. Kinda depends really. Really though, right at 7.
That's about all I can think of. I need to be doing homework, lol. Should have taken the quarter off (my school does trimesters instead of semesters, but have a summer quarter that is optional so everyone just calls them quarters instead of trimesters).
congrats val heal well and quickly im so happy the surgery is a success thialand is where im going so i was watching your thread carefully lol
jessica
Quote from: Michelle Hayden on March 18, 2010, 02:36:10 AM
I know someone that just had SRS with Dr Supporn. She is 1 wk out and has already told me that she had two orgasms already. He does the inner mucosa, so you will have the pinkish color.
Can you still get that pink color if you have been circumcised?
Quote from: Robertin210 on June 30, 2010, 05:22:53 PM
Can you still get that pink color if you have been circumcised?
I (was) a circumcised American lol.. and Dr Suporn told me that I wouldn't have the pinkish color since he didn't have that material to use. And he wasn't lying, I do not have the pink on the inner labia. And since I was circumcised, that the scar would show. To be honest, I had never even noticed a scar from the circumcision when I had an outtie, the bastards did it about the same time they pronounced me male, so it was all quickly forgotten.
But yes, I can even see the circumcision scars on the labia. It actually makes me think of what a horrid act that circumcision really is. Mutilation, for sure, and I'm not even sure why they do it .... other then they (medical docs and parents) are sadists!!!!!
Melan
Do all genetically born women have pink down there (I've never been with a woman before, have just seen some pictures). Are you satisfied with your surgery despite the doctor not being able to use foreskin?
Val, how's it going thus far?
I am also circumcised and I see the scars so I guess
those will be visible after my SRS as well.
To top it all off, I'm pretty small if you know what I mean.
Don't know if size matters? Does depth depend on size?
I hope Suporn can work magic with me.