I have been looking and have not seen any discussions on practicing my female voice. If I have missed something thing please link me to the past posts. I really am having a rough time with my voice I know from my past singing experience that I can hit and hold higher notes. I am also trying to find better references to hertz and octaves of a female voice. Or even chords that I can play on my guitar and try to match.
I went to DeepStealth for their package. And it help greatly.
Janet
Yeah Cal sent me that package a while ago I tried and only produced marginal results.
Daily practice is what worked. And every time I answered the phone.
Are you/Did you use some kind of recorder. And the spectrogram? That was a godsend.
Janet
Quote from: Binks on January 08, 2010, 11:03:22 PM
Yeah Cal sent me that package a while ago I tried and only produced marginal results.
How many hours a day were you working with it?
Did you use the spectrogram?
Did you record and playback your voice as well through out practicing?
I should download and use the spectrogram but never have. I really have no excuse I have the perfect mic to use with it.
I've used the DeepStealth program in the past and more recently a speech therapist who specialized in trans clients.
I honestly feel the DeepStealth program is extreme overkill (and boring beyond belief) compared to what I was going through my speech therapist.
I was seeing results with her in a matter of weeks with off and on practice.
My best piece of advice is to have an audio recorder (I used my iphone) at all times and play with your voice until you find something that is pleasing to you.
Also, mimicking women's voices who are in your range worked wonders for me (especially singing)... but you definitely have to spend a lot of time on it.
It wasn't until I started using a recorder and having that instant feedback everywhere I went of where my voice was at that I really got good results though.
Quote from: devi ever on January 08, 2010, 11:12:29 PM
I've used the DeepStealth program in the past and more recently a speech therapist who specialized in trans clients.
I honestly feel the DeepStealth program is extreme overkill (and boring beyond belief) compared to what I was going through my speech therapist.
I was seeing results with her in a matter of weeks with off and on practice.
My best piece of advice is to have a tape recorder at all times and play with your voice until you find something that is pleasing to you.
Also, mimicking women's voices who are in your range worked wonders for me (especially singing)... but you definitely have to spend a lot of time on it.
It wasn't until I started using a recorder and having that instant feedback everywhere I went of where my voice was at that I really got good results though.
For me, it was Cher and Carly Simon. I am close to their range. Bit of a strain, but whatever works.
Janet
Quote from: Janet Lynn on January 08, 2010, 11:15:13 PM
For me, it was Cher and Carly Simon. I am close to their range. Bit of a strain, but whatever works.
Janet
Ha ha. Nice. For me it was Amanda Palmer and Regina Spektor.
... and now I'm attempting Tori Amos with very horribly mixed results. :-\
Okay. I'm sitting here with Binks and trying to help her figure out what/how to ask some questions. She is really hoping to find something that will show what the natural female voice range is on a hertz scale.
While we agree that there are several good suggestions here, she needs something more specific. She is a little tone deaf, so comparing herself to singers or working on sounding like other people/women is very difficult for her. Has anyone had any experience with programs that show what hertz frequency your voice is? To put it simply she need something that is both visual and audio, she has a really good understanding of music, scales, notes, etc so anything along those lines might work well for her.
Any ideas?
http://www.genderlife.com/voicetutor/index.htm (http://www.genderlife.com/voicetutor/index.htm)
Quote from: Virginia Marie on January 08, 2010, 11:30:54 PM
LOL, there have been so many threads on female voice :laugh:
But that's okay. I'm sure there will be plenty more
I would give advise but no-one listens to me much anyway on that subject
I tend to sing Blondie, Eurythmics, Patsy Cline, No Doubt and a few others
But I use to sing in bands for several years. But who cares really? Your just gonna do what you want anyways
I can't tell rather or not you are being serious in your post so I'm going to make this really simple. If it is just a joke then cool, it just didn't come across. If it is not a joke then it's simple too, take the drama/complaining elsewhere. Thank you.
Quote from: Cowboi on January 09, 2010, 12:12:32 AM
I can't tell rather or not you are being serious in your post so I'm going to make this really simple. If it is just a joke then cool, it just didn't come across. If it is not a joke then it's simple too, take the drama/complaining elsewhere. Thank you.
Pretty sure Virgnia didn't mean anything by it. (https://www.susans.org/forums/Smileys/susans/angel.gif)
Quote from: devi ever on January 09, 2010, 12:14:39 AM
Pretty sure Virgnia didn't mean anything by it. (https://www.susans.org/forums/Smileys/susans/angel.gif)
Yeah, it seemed like a joke, I just figured I'd cover all the bases at once. ;)
Cool I will work on those scales tomorrow thanks. I am going to finally download a spectrogram and work from there.
If you are a visual learner, the spectrogram is prefect.
Janet
Quote from: Virginia Marie on January 09, 2010, 12:26:40 AM
Actually, I've been singing for several years. Maybe you should learn more about baseball
???
"Covering all the bases". A lame reference to baseball. Nice try Virginia. :-*
Janet
Something I just thought I'd throw out here because I haven't seen it mentioned before.
If you use a microphone hooked up to a computer, there's software you can use to apply the "phone call" quality to the sound, so you can hear what you would sound like on the other end of the telephone.
If anyones interested in knowing more, let me know, I don't really have any advise outside of that except to keep practicing.
Quote from: Janet Lynn on January 09, 2010, 01:07:00 AM
"Covering all the bases". A lame reference to baseball. Nice try Virginia. :-*
Strangely all I thought when I read this was, it's an idiom, lol.
I'm really lazy when it comes to my voice but I find the best thing to push me is being out in public it forces me to exercise my higher range. My endo told me the other day that my voice is fine and he asked me what methods I'd used I said none and he was surprised. I'd say with time it will find it's own place.
But saying that I'm going to start voice training when I find a job as all the online stuff is too confusing and blah. ???
Over the course of my voice training, I've had several "breakthroughs" only to realize there's something more (or even less) to do. In the end, whatever you do, do it every day. Even if after several months you feel it's not where it should be and decide to go with an entirely different approach or regimen, at the very least you'll have some greater understanding and control of the appropriate muscles.
I personally started with various YouTube contributors, then picked up Andrea's program, and now I'm working more closely with recordings for fine tuning. I have a small choir background, so I had a little head start.
Quote from: Cowboi on January 09, 2010, 12:09:23 AM
Has anyone had any experience with programs that show what hertz frequency your voice is?
A frequency tuner can give her instant feedback, which can be helpful. A frequency tuner is a little device that displays the hertz and usually the corresponding note in real time as it "hears" sounds. She can purchase one at a local music store for like $30. Also there is a free iPhone app called Trace Tuner that works okay, if she happens to have one.
Quote from: Jen on January 10, 2010, 12:49:06 AM
A frequency tuner can give her instant feedback, which can be helpful.
I'll have to bring that up to her today. She probably knows what one is and never even thought about the possibility of using it that way. Bianca tends to be one of those people who is to smart for her own good (meaning that the obvious is sometimes lost on her until pointed out) haha.
Oh I also just found a chart that should give you the info on the target hertz and octaves of a female voice that you were asking for. (scroll to the bottom of the page)
http://www.exceptionalvoice.com/voicefeminization/voicetherapy.html (http://www.exceptionalvoice.com/voicefeminization/voicetherapy.html)
Thanks for all the help and suggestions.
I have actually been working long distance with Kathe Perez from Exceptional Voice. I sat in on one of her seminars at SCC and totally clicked with they way she taught.
Plus having worked on it myself I felt stuck at times. So I highly recommend a speech or voice coach familiar with trans patients. Getting constructive feed back as made a big difference for me.
But as everyone else has mentioned, practice, practice, practice.
Well went and pulled my chromatic tuner and the batteries were dead when i get a new nine volt I will try the techniques listed above thanks so much.