I read somewhere a long time ago that, by corset training, it is possible to reduce the size of the rib cage gradually, of course, it takes time and it has to be done carefully but, is it possible? and how effective is it? is this worth the try?
I've heard corsets used to make a waist but not to shrink your rib cage. I would think since ribs are bone that it would be difficult if not impossible. You may be able to deform your rib cage due to the cartilage parts but I think that would create problems for breathing and other organs.
Corsets did change the shape of the ribcage after many years of vigourous and extended use. However, the ribcage is the size it is for a reason and many people had there internal organs shifted around and crushed in the pursuit of a small waist.
Bone is surprisingly flexible over the long term. Corsets can bring the waist /lower rib area in. If you're not doing anything extreme then there aren't really any problems from it. Don't expect to be able to take off 10 inches or anything crazy like that.
um... waist is below the rib cage, therefore not the same thing. At least I took it differently.
Quote from: Iceprincess on April 28, 2010, 11:43:21 PM
I read somewhere a long time ago that, by corset training, it is possible to reduce the size of the rib cage gradually, of course, it takes time and it has to be done carefully but, is it possible? and how effective is it? is this worth the try?
It is possible. Bone re-mineralizes and changes shape when it is under constant pressure. Effectiveness as Ketsy stated, it takes a long time for this to happen with reasonable expectations of ribcage size reduction.
Is it worth it? Depends on your lifestyle and current body size proportion. Once you start tightlacing, you have to eat in smaller portions and more frequently. Not only that, you have to watch out for all the foods you eat. It's a complete lifestyle change. Your ability to bend your back is diminished and you'll have some difficulty carrying some tasks that involves bending over (ie: putting on socks or shoes). Not to mention it is expensive to buy a tightlacing corset - $200+.
Women with narrow shoulders would most benefit from a narrower waist & rib cage to create an hourglass figure. I have broad shoulders so in terms of benefits of a waist & rib cage would be less because the more I emphasize a smaller waist, the more visible upper body triangle I show. So if you're willing to change your lifestyle and have a body that would benefit from having a smaller waist & rib cage, go for it.
The rib cage is pretty flexible. It expands and retracts everytime we breathe. Its resting position is depended on muscle tone. If the muscles atrophy, the rib cage will get a little smaller. I hear some girls lose a few inches after having been on hormones for a long time. I have not measured myself in a while, but my bra straps are not as tight as they use to be.
waist is seen feminine thanks to the hips, not the rib cage, where there it will seem more masculine.
Quote from: LordKAT on April 29, 2010, 12:40:09 AM
um... waist is below the rib cage, therefore not the same thing. At least I took it differently.
If the ribs are significantly crushed, it makes the waist looks smaller - not good though.
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OK
Sorry for not answering in a long time, I've been too busy :(
Anyway, my problem is, that even when I have broad hips, my shoulders are a bit broad as well, that's why i wish to do this, but if it's not going to help and the problem relies on the shoulders, is there any way to make the shoulders more narrow?
It seems like I do have an hourglass shape, but my shoulders a just a little bit broader than my hips, as well as my rib cage.
One more thing: once I start with HRT, is there any chance that hormones can help (obviously it would take a long time lol) to reduce the size of the bone structure?
Sorry to be blunt here, but if you start squeezing your rib cage, you should make sure your funeral plan is up to date as well.
There's no free space in there. It's filled with your guts, mainly lungs and heart. Squeeze those and expect to faint, if you're lucky.
Ever wondered why so many women in the 18th and 19th centurys fainted so much?
Us your imagination and adjust your shape with your choice of clothes.
What is going to give you away is your attitude.
Quote from: ƃuıxǝʌ on May 31, 2010, 03:41:37 PM
No. Hormones cannot alter bone structure.
But the fat is shifted from the stomache area to the hip area so they help in a way but yeah they won't adjust your bone structure.
*Shudders*
While my ribcage is.. Huge, I don't think I'd wear a tight-lacing corset to 'correct' that. I don't mind as much about my broad shoulders as I do about my waist, and hormones should lessen the waist, anyway.
Anyway; this looks really tricky, and dangerous.
I actually realized that my problem with feeling like my ribcage was too large had a lot to do with me being severely underweight. xD
I really would try not to worry about it too much, it's just not worth the stress!
I had my lower rib cage cracked and pushed in a few years ago, for a more slender look.Im a little suprised no one else has had this done.I dont think ive seen any person mention it in this thread. ???
Never heard of this. How was it done?
BTW I have seen a GG female reduce her waist to 16" under medical supervision (her partner).
She looked awful. In my opinion a fetish look.
Cindy
Not sure how its done, Doctor did tell me, but Its been too long. Im satisfied overall.
I think we've all seen how fabulous you look Angela. Gurr. :laugh:
But seriously, making the best of what we have seems a lot more important than risking our health.
Dead girls don't tend to pull much.
Spacial,Ive had no health complications since that procedure, knocks on wood. :)and its been a few years.Not sure anything could go wrong down the line.
I appreciate that Angela and am very pleased for you. (You are the picture of health to be honest). Procedures with properly qualifed Drs should and usually are trustworthy.
I was referring to people using passive means to squeeze their rib cage.
Sorry for the confusion.
No problem Spacial.I was only confused on what you meant.
Quote from: Angela on August 28, 2010, 04:27:17 AM
I had my lower rib cage cracked and pushed in a few years ago, for a more slender look.Im a little suprised no one else has had this done.I dont think ive seen any person mention it in this thread. ???
What what are your measurements.
Quote from: CindyJames on August 28, 2010, 04:38:14 AM
Never heard of this. How was it done?
BTW I have seen a GG female reduce her waist to 16" under medical supervision (her partner).
She looked awful. In my opinion a fetish look.
Cindy
I think it depends ,Dita Von Teese has a 16 inch waist and looks great.
Quote from: tori319 on August 28, 2010, 05:19:40 PM
What what are your measurements.
My measurements are 20 " waist / 28" hips.
Quote from: Angela on August 28, 2010, 05:42:41 PM
My measurements are 20 " waist / 28" hips.
Wow your tiny.My hips are 38" and my waist is 30" I want to get my waist down to 27 or 26 though.
I do wish to know more about your procedure Angie, please :P
This was done by a thoracic surgeon in 2001 .It was done in London.His name was Dr. Harold D" Amico. Not sure if he is still active , as he was in his late 50s then.I dont remember many details, but do remember that after the ribs are cracked, they are then fused together, and its only after that they are pushed in.Hope that helps.
Which of the 12 set of ribs were broken and compressed though? lower ones? upper? all?
What's the underbust measurement?
Any full body picture to see the results? (with cloths of course)
P.S. Corsets effects on the body reverse in matter of hours once taken off.
I don't know about Angela's procedure (I hope she can explain it better), but rib removal should never be done. First, the lower ribs are not useless. They protect the
lower part of your lungs. If they are gone, one little hit in the one wrong spot and you are good for a trip to the hospital. Also, those ribs retain their "roots",
and will regrow over time. If they do not pose a problem doing so (I am no doctor, but I can easily see a stick of bone growing from the spine pressuring organs),
they will at least fully come back, and everything will have to be done again.
All in all, it's not a good idea to remove ribs.
Quote from: A on June 25, 2011, 10:14:23 AM
I don't know about Angela's procedure (I hope she can explain it better), but rib removal should never be done. First, the lower ribs are not useless. They protect the
lower part of your lungs. If they are gone, one little hit in the one wrong spot and you are good for a trip to the hospital. Also, those ribs retain their "roots",
and will regrow over time. If they do not pose a problem doing so (I am no doctor, but I can easily see a stick of bone growing from the spine pressuring organs),
they will at least fully come back, and everything will have to be done again.
All in all, it's not a good idea to remove ribs.
"A" is right, no honest physician would perform such a surgery. The safest procedure is to do a lipo in conjunction with a waist tightening. Both oblique abdominal muscles are shortened, skin i also remove, incision is usually done along the surface of the spinal column so as to minimize scar visibility. Typically 4-6 inches reduction can be anticipated. Sometimes this procedure is referred as "body contouring" Dr. O at SF used to perform this type of surgery, but I believe it has become more common..
Kate D
Muscles can be surgically altered, really? Can they lose thickness that way? *Probably useless hope*
Quote from: A on June 25, 2011, 10:47:31 AM
Muscles can be surgically altered, really? Can they lose thickness that way? *Probably useless hope*
Yes to both questions, muscle can be shave, tightened and even relaxed. Of course all of this depends on the muscle, age and desired amounts of correction. Devil is always in the detail.
I do not know where this "urban legend" that muscles cannot be stitched come from, but it is wrong! Think about, take a piece of beef, cut it, can you stitch it up? Yes with patience and diligence, that is why surgery take so long
Kate D
Well, one would think that like ligaments, a muscle is hard to repair once damaged. I thought all parts of it were necessary for it to function without problems.
Quote from: A on June 25, 2011, 11:18:38 AM
Well, one would think that like ligaments, a muscle is hard to repair once damaged. I thought all parts of it were necessary for it to function without problems.
Cannot speak to the specific procedures being discussed in this thread, but yes, ligaments and muscles can be painful and hard to repair, but they CAN be repaired. The real problem is that many non-athletes are not ever going to be willing to remain inactive for the necessary healing time and will actually wind up with a weaker muscle than they had before...which for this sort of a procedure would really defeat the entire purpose.
And I qualify that in the manner I did because I know how difficult it was to stay on the scheduled injury rehab and not rush it when a career depended on it...it is also one of the reasons I elected NOT to have knee surgery when I quit playing competitive softball.
Ahh can I carefully say that some of the comments on this thread are quite old. And the people making were found to be frauds, so don't waste your time following the post.
Cindy
Ann is right! Ecven cartilage can be sutured the problem is the poor vasuclarization, and hence necrosis. muscles aare easy and as any ER physcian will tell you, they get stich all the tiem. Now, when a musle is detached from its insertion or or origin, then now we have a problem huston.
Kate D
Think this thread is getting locked... no harm in debating biology, but the procedures being discussed here have too great a danger for long-term consequences or even death.