Detail ahead. Don't read if you're a pussy :P
There's supposedly a big difference between a male and female orgasm. Plenty of research suggests that female orgasms are far superior.
I'm quite interested to know how other transguys would describe their orgasms. And if you're on T, have your orgasms changed? Does it worry you that your orgasms might not be as enjoyable after T?
Mine have definitely changed since starting testosterone.
Now, they're less intense. The sensation is focused completely in the genitals, whereas it used to be a full body sensation. I used to feel relaxed for longer afterwards, but now within a minute or two I'm back to normal. It takes far less time to reach climax, and far less time to recover and be able to masturbate again afterwards.
Generally, I'm far happier with my orgasms. They definitely don't feel as good as before, but I'm having more of them.
I have definitely noticed a difference. Pre-T they were, like you said, more of a full body experience and more intense(too intense for my taste). Also it used to take me awhile to be ready to "go again" lol now give me a few minutes 5 at the max and I am ready to go again where as before I was too sensitive for awhile to even enjoy any kind of touching "down there". And they are definitely more genital centered now but I think they are more enjoyable now(at almost 5 months on T) than pre-T.
Strange to hear you two say that. I just started on T last week and only using a small amount of gel so I don't know if my opinion counts yet. However I got to say that they seem to be much stronger then they were before. Taking maybe a little bit longer to get there and longer to recover.
Perhaps once T really starts to work with my system they will change. It's possible the reason they are more intense now is because I'm so high on life having finally made a decision about myself.
Quote from: Squirrel698 on May 14, 2010, 02:13:50 PM
Strange to hear you two say that. I just started on T last week and only using a small amount of gel so I don't know if my opinion counts yet. However I got to say that they seem to be much stronger then they were before. Taking maybe a little bit longer to get there and longer to recover.
Perhaps once T really starts to work with my system they will change. It's possible the reason they are more intense now is because I'm so high on life having finally made a decision about myself.
haha everything seems better when you first get on T.
I'm pre-T and on a rare occasion I'm okay with receiving penetration. The orgasms are different in intensity and everything. It takes me forever to orgasm no matter what I do solo or with a partner (typically 20 minutes to an hour) and I don't have multiples.
I'm really hoping that T will make it easier to orgasm, make me more comfortable with my genitals and just...make what I've got work better.
I never got that full-body thing everyone talks about. I guess I'll write about the changes when I get on T.
I'm completely unable to go a second time now. Before I could sometimes after a few minutes. They're now on more of a schedule. And believe or not, I'm actually considerably less horny and my sex drive is a lot more manageable and even. Once a day and I'm good. Before the average was 3x a day, with a completely crazy week once a month where I was completely insatiable and could go 10 to infinity. I'm happy with this part though. Feels much more controllable and comfortable than the frantic ups and downs of before.
I haven't really noticed the loss of the full body experience, but now that I think of it, I think I have lost some of it. I can't recall feeling the "uterus flip flops" or whatever they are for some time. :-\
Quote from: Nero on May 14, 2010, 05:26:35 PM
I can't recall feeling the "uterus flip flops" or whatever they are for some time. :-\
(Shudder.)
Quote from: SilverFang on May 14, 2010, 05:32:54 PM
(Shudder.)
lol
Also, I have noticed myself trying to space them out, like trying to go a day or two without to make them more intense. So, yeah I guess I have noticed they are less intense and satisfying than before. :( It's odd, T is supposed to all this amazing stuff sexually.
Quote from: Nero on May 14, 2010, 05:26:35 PM
I haven't really noticed the loss of the full body experience, but now that I think of it, I think I have lost some of it. I can't recall feeling the "uterus flip flops" or whatever they are for some time. :-\
I dont
think my orgasms are full body.. but I dont really know.. i will take note next time lol.
what about uterus flip flops?
I've been on T for a little over 3 weeks, and yes, I've noticed them getting less intense lately. Then again, that might be because I'm just playing with myself so much I'm getting desensitized... ::) I never really cared for orgasms myself-- it was the moment right before the orgasm I loves and then I just stopped the second my orgasm started. Now that moment is just... nothing... And I used to be able to have several orgasms in one session but now I can really only have one. Again, I'm not sure if I'm just overkilling it right now or if it's the t, but I've definitely noticed a difference.
Always had boy-orgasms apparently.
But since starting T, well...
The changes caused by T are such that I've had to sort of "re-learn" how to handle my downstairs equipment.
See, while the result is the same, getting there seems to be a different process.
Sometimes, I just can't get there at all.
Is rather... difficult... to deal with actually.
Finally getting my downstairs equipment to "kinda" look like it's "supposed to" and the damned thing doesn't always "work"?
Mine are actually more intense now. I have been on T over a year and am quite happy with the change in that department.
Myles
Yeah, my orgasms totally changed after T..
Things I noticed:
It's actually much easier to reach orgasm now.. takes anywhere between 2 and 8 minutes, sometimes less.. whereas before it took at least 15 minutes..
And, my orgasms are much more intense now, I find.
One other thing is.. before, I wasn't able to have more than one orgasm a day.. and now, I could have several a day. Haha.
I never thought about this. Interesting!
I am a crazy sex fiend. I can have like 10 orgasms in a row, and it doesn't take me anytime at all. I can orgasm with or without penetration too. But they're not full body for me, they've never been that intense, which is probably why I have so many in a row so easily.
I have a weird relationship with sex. Sometimes I want to die when I orgasm because they never satisfy me. The feeling right before I have one is better than the actual orgasm.
I also have very horrible sexual fantasies though which may have to do with it.
hey, that raises a question. if I have some issues with sex, like obsessive paraphillias, could it be potentially dangerous for me to be on T??
jimmy: i have some "horrible" fantasies too (violent etc). i never thought about t and that, but i don't think they'd become more than fantasies.
I've never actually had an orgasm. At least I don't think so. I think I get to that just before part, which I do like. I feel pretty detached from myself during sex. I only really get off on doing stuff to other people.
Getting a packer kinda woke up my crotch tho, which is awesome.
Quote from: elvistears on May 14, 2010, 09:03:48 PM
jimmy: i have some "horrible" fantasies too (violent etc). i never thought about t and that, but i don't think they'd become more than fantasies.
I've never actually had an orgasm. At least I don't think so. I think I get to that just before part, which I do like. I feel pretty detached from myself during sex. I only really get off on doing stuff to other people.
Getting a packer kinda woke up my crotch tho, which is awesome.
are you a masochist.. sadist? You could be. which isnt a bad thing. my boyfriend and i are into that..
and I know what you mean about the packer.. i tend to not wear it.. b/c having it sitting there just turns me on.. the weight of it lol.
Bit o both, depending on who it's with! Some people I like to dominate, some people I like to be dominated by.
Yeah the first day I had the packer was nuts! Lol nuts. I couldn't stop rubbing it under the desk at work. I feel ten trillions times better about sex as a dude. I think T will help even more.
Quote from: elvistears on May 14, 2010, 09:14:01 PM
Bit o both, depending on who it's with! Some people I like to dominate, some people I like to be dominated by.
Yeah the first day I had the packer was nuts! Lol nuts. I couldn't stop rubbing it under the desk at work. I feel ten trillions times better about sex as a dude. I think T will help even more.
i cant wait until T gives me a dick.. a little dick.. but I cant stand not have anything to.. hold lol.
but yea.. I dont mind having 'female' sex.. but then again, my bf respects me as male.. and we just use what I have..
Very interesting to see that everyone is so different.
I'm on about 3-5 wanks a day at the moment. Pre-T it was an average of 1 a week. My sex drive has increased, and because I can orgasm far easier it seems worth the effort now.
I remember when the sex drive started to increase and it only took 6 seconds and I was finished. HAH! Not even kidding.
My sensitivity has also changed. Cause my dick is bigger its started rubbing on my pants and become quite insensitive to touch in many places. As soon as I wake him up, it's fine. Haha.
jimmymot: Maybe not a great idea to admit to downloading certain types of porn on a public forum.
My sex drive has been almost non existant since I started puberty...hoping T helps.
Actually, violent tendencies are considered contraindications to HRT. I would advise you speak to your therapist about this.
I've been on T for about a year. When I first started, my orgasms were much more intense - almost painful - and not nearly as satisfying as before. The last few months, however, they've been settling down and becoming more enjoyable. Still very intense, and there is less of the whole-body sensation, but no longer painful, and lately I've been feeling them through my whole belly, rather than just in the little guy.
Mine have changed a lot but they are more intense and varied depending on what I'm doing or using to get off. More ways to play = many different types of orgasms. 8)
Jay
Before T, I couldn't really handle the feeling of orgasms. They were too intense.
I've only been on T for 3 days but I'm already finding that I'm less sensitive down there, and when I do orgasm, its not as intense...but that's just fine. I'm hoping it gets less intense as time goes by cause honestly, I wish I could come without all the jerks and ->-bleeped-<-, and I wish it was...thicker when I do come. It hasn't changed texture yet. A friend has been on it for 2 months and says its thicker and much less sensitive.
However, blue balls are much more painful, and I actually felt it get hard last night. It was interesting and exciting. I can't wait til it gets big enough to actually treat like a real dick.
Pre T the thought of masturbating really disgusted me, and so did the thought of sex until I met my gf who is very accepting. I think the bigger I get down there, the more comfortable I'll be. The thought of sex still disgusts me unless I"m around my gf. Her being real accepting changes things alot.
Quote from: myles on May 14, 2010, 07:15:47 PM
Mine are actually more intense now. I have been on T over a year and am quite happy with the change in that department.
Myles
Same for me. It's easier to achieve them and they're more intense
Quote from: Kvall on May 14, 2010, 09:29:55 PMHowever, immediately after orgasm, my cock is now very sensitive and sore and so there is no way for me to try and continue with it right away, whereas before that was at least a possibility.
Same for me. I'm glad to know I'm not the only guy who gets the "Aching Cock Syndrome". :D Another go right away would be impossible- it just hurts too much.
Quote from: Nero on May 14, 2010, 10:15:37 PM
Actually, violent tendencies are considered contraindications to HRT. I would advise you speak to your therapist about this.
FYI.. Violent "tendencies" and violent fantasies are two totally different things. A lot of people have violent fantasies and are not at all violent in real life.
You beat me to it, Damien.
Man... we'd all be in prison if twisted thoughts made us twisted people.
Thank god I have my own mind.. my favourite part of myself.
I delight in what my brain comes up with when I'm turned on.. different week to week, never boring.
Imagination is the spice of life!
How many months do you have to be on T till i get my mini dick? This sounds awesomeee. I wanna start mine already and does it erect everytime you see something that turns u on? :P When it gets hard and rubs against ur underwear, does it hurt?
Agreed on the difference between violent fantasies and violent actions. They are two very different things
In fact, the term "violent" can cover a range of activities, depending on your viewpoint. My partner and myself have been into BDSM for a number of years and our activites might be seen by some as "violent", whereas we would see them as the most trusting, loving thing that two people can do together. There is absolutely no hate or aggression involved.
Anyway, back on topic, this is fascintaing that T can change an orgasm from female pattern to male. Personally, I will miss the wonderful full body sensation, but c'est la vie.
And accord03, you already have your mini (or micro) dick. It is your clitoris and it already erects when you are turned on. It is just that we don't always notice it. It does get bigger on T, though.
So is this about just the changes when on testosterone or after the, uh... you know, the surgery and stuff...
Well, the thing I'm really curious about... ugh, this is gonna be awkward... so, when everything's said and done, is it possible to... I'm talking about something like, uh... e...ejaculation?
EDIT: Hmm... in retrospect I really should have posted in that other thread. Um... sorry.
As far as I know, I don't think ejaculation is possible even after T and surgery
But I'm unsure. It may be different. No one's really asked that question before so...sorry if it's wrong :/
Ejaculation, as in producing and ejecting semen, would not be possible as we have no means by which to produce semen. However, there has been some talk about the possibility of a female ejaculation in terms of explusion of some (as yest, unidentified) fluid during orgasm. I have no idea if this is increased whilst taking T, but the whole subject is so fraught with medical controversy that it is probably best left well alone!
My habits are the same when it comes to reaching climax. The only differences that I notice now is that if I have a big O then it takes forever to have a second one very slow recovery time. It does not matter if I am still horny or not. If I am stressed I can barely get anything again does not matter if I am horny enough to start humping legs. I also have noticed that if I take my time instead of just rushing towards the end like I normally do before work (pre-emptive stress relief) then it does not feel as grand. Compared to bed time fun where I can take longer. Before T I would just rush to get the horny over with.
Quote from: accord03 on May 24, 2010, 11:39:54 PM
How many months do you have to be on T till i get my mini dick? This sounds awesomeee. I wanna start mine already and does it erect everytime you see something that turns u on? :P When it gets hard and rubs against ur underwear, does it hurt?
I noticing mine growing within the first few days. After a months or so, the growth stopped/majorly slowed down for me.
I don't find that mine really gets very hard, but the tissue around it swells. It becomes more pronounced when erect too.
At first, the rubbing on underwear is hell so baggy underwear are best. It quickly desensitises to the new sensations though.
Thanks guys.
Hmmm I was curious to how it looked like so i went on x-tube and its pretty small. Does pumpin really help or not?
To those speaking of ejaculation: It's possible before T. From what I've witnessed a lot of trans men can ejaculate post-T. I have made partners ejaculate and the fluid is different from most fluids produced down there.
I know a lot of Trans guys that would love the ability to ejaculate because the idea seems very male and masculine.
Early on in my acceptance process, I became obsessed with the idea of being able to ejaculate.
To the extent that I went out and found a realistic dildo that actually ejaculates.
The novelty eventually wore off, but it was fun while it lasted.
Quote from: Muddy on May 25, 2010, 12:04:38 PM
Early on in my acceptance process, I became obsessed with the idea of being able to ejaculate.
To the extent that I went out and found a realistic dildo that actually ejaculates.
The novelty eventually wore off, but it was fun while it lasted.
I plan on getting an ejaculating dildo. I won't fill it with anything like ejaculate...I'll fill it with vodka and have people blow me until I ejaculate the vodka into their mouths. I have deemed this a money shot.
Ooh, the added benefit of it being a sterile fluid!
Quote from: Nygeel on May 25, 2010, 12:10:17 PM
I plan on getting an ejaculating dildo. I won't fill it with anything like ejaculate...I'll fill it with vodka and have people blow me until I ejaculate the vodka into their mouths. I have deemed this a money shot.
Filing this under "things to do when I've come to terms with my body." Also, "ways to have fun with being FTM."
Nah, mine didn't change at all when I was on T--same sort of point-focused twitch/throb feeling as before. I've never had full-body ones either, and in a way I wouldn't want to. The idea sorta creeps me out.
I hope you guys don't mind me butting into your thread, but I actually heard that male and female orgasms actually feel exactly the same. I recall reading a study where experts read thousands of descriptions of what an orgasm feels like and they could not differentiate between which ones were written by males or females.
Anywho, since I have "male" parts and I'm on spiro, I guess I may as well give some input for comparison. Mine are usually not full body or overwhelming (once in a while I do get those though) but I've noticed ever since starting spiro, my desire to masturbate has went down, but when I do, my orgasms are somewhat more intense, and it takes more effort to get there- the reverse of what some of you guys seem to be experiencing. Perhaps testosterone has some effect on orgasm where it's easier to achieve but less intense. It's pretty interesting- I think some scientist person should do a study about this. :P
Quote from: Kvall on May 26, 2010, 07:31:38 AM
I'm mostly referring to a feeling of warmth and energy that spreads throughout your body (simultaneous with the orgasmic contractions) of varying intensity that acts as the most significant aspect of the orgasm. I only started having those after starting T.
Same here. Although that mostly stopped for me after starting T. I don't really miss it though.
Then you haven't had one that makes almost every muscle in your body tense up for a time and after you are almost out of it for a time?
Quote from: LordKAT on May 26, 2010, 07:46:10 AM
Then you haven't had one that makes almost every muscle in your body tense up for a time and after you are almost out of it for a time?
No, I have. They were great, but I found them far too much effort to achieve to be worth it. I had a very low sex drive and found it hard to orgasm.
So even though my previous orgasms were better, I prefer the less intense and more frequent ones that I get now.
The whole body thing has gone away almost entirely already. My gf talks about it happening to her and that's peachy...but I don't miss it. Its more dick concentrated now.
Concerning the can females ejaculate question the answer is yes. Women have a version of a prostate called the Skene's gland. When this gland is stimulated it can cause ejaculation. Studies have not only shown this to be true but the make-up of a female's ejaculation is just like a man's fluids except without the sperm.
Remember- all fetuses start out as female until the Y chromosome kicks in. Therefore all body parts in a man will be on a women except sometimes as different organs (dick=clitoris prostate= Skene's gland).
After being on T, like most of you guys, i'm able to achieve orgasms quite quickly but can't go more than once as it gets RLY sensitive and painful! I think it was Radar who mentioned the 'Aching Cock Syndrome'! A great way to describe it. Sometimes I have to push past the sensitivity and pain as the T can make me very horny :-\ and therefore, i have to do something about it otherwise it drives me insane! :(
With orgasms now, they're more genital focused than before. Pre-T, the sensation kinda spread throughout my body but not, its concentrated in one spot...
Ugh, aching cock syndrome, I hate that. Sometimes I don't even get off properly and it begins to ache.
I don't think I've really had much of an orgasm since being on T, and if it is one, then it's pretty weak.
I love this thread, what an interesting topic. I find with orgasms there was a change. I used to be really sensitive after the first orgasm, now it's like nothing, I could go again easily given a few minutes rest. My orgasms have always been something I could make in a few minutes or far longer depending on my interest at the time. I find they are better now though, because I really let them take control, I find they are actually more intense. Admittedly my first was probably the best I've ever had, no competition, but since then they don't really compare to the ones on T. After orgasms pre T, I would just carry on doing what I do, I didn't really need rest or anything since they didn't drain me of energy. Since I've been on T I can't do that. If I don't rest a bit I feel a bit dizzy trying to stand on my feet. The orgasms also really cause my heart to race now. I also feel more comfortable with myself on T so it might be what makes the orgasms better. Either way, they are awesome. I never thought I could feel this way about them, pre T, they just weren't as important.
Whoa. Ancient thread is ancient!
But now that it's dug up, how could I resist a thread titled, "Orgasms"?
Anyway, this is an interesting thread so I might as well add to it.
I think the big O has gotten better in the fact that I've learned more about myself and what does it for me over time. Early on it was like this thing I could barely control. It was like jumping in a race car and holding on and even when you first got in you were only mere moments away from the finish line. I've never, ever been a multiple person. My absolute record was 3 in a 24 hour time period and I had to really work for that last one. I won't even go for 2 any more. It just doesn't float my boat - too much effort without enough pay off.
As for the actual physical way I feel ... if I edge it, it's usually more intense (or if I hold off getting off for days). Normally I just feel this building feeling like below my belly button that slowly makes it's way lower. The only "whole body" stuff I've ever felt is this muscle lock up type thing that happens right before the blast off. It's this crazy tension. It might be helpful to note that I never had the "normal" female set up. To me, I've always had a dick because it looks like one and acts like one (except for the ejaculation and being able to pee out of it parts - major bummer, but I got over it). So it might be a little different but it probably similar to guys who have had a lot of growth on HRT. I still do get uber relaxed afterward. Also, usually get over-sensitive ... sometimes so much that it actually aches/feels weird for a short time.
I can still function afterward (you know, like put clothes on and go to the grocery store kind of function - not "let's go for round 2" function, cause yeah that was never a super viable option for me) but I'd much prefer just to chill out for awhile or go to sleep.
I don't remember running across this thread way back when.
Unless I jack off more than a couple of times in one day, my orgasms are more intense than they used to be. I love that. And if I go a couple of days in between, my orgasms are much more intense.
My sexual response is mostly focused in that part of the body, and afterward I am much more likely to just get up and go do something else. I often used to doze off with my partner. Of course, I'm single now.
Sometimes I have a hard time sort of getting started because of dysphoria with that part of my body.
I miss being able to get excited from other body sensations. I had a special top surgery procedure expressly so I would run no risk of losing nipple sensation, but now my responses have changed so much that I only get so much out of that part of my body. I had surgery only a few months after I started HRT, so maybe it took a little while for my brain and my responses to rewire.
I'm not sure whether it's from T, more comfort with myself, or a combination of factors, but I am more interested in intense feelings, like discomfort/pain, than I used to be. This also causes problems because I tend to judge what I'm doing and feel ashamed afterward. But it also can give me some of my most intense orgasms.
P.S. I can jack off maybe five times in one day now. My record was eight. I had started HRT not long before, and my partner was out of town.
Quote from: Nygeel on May 25, 2010, 12:10:17 PM
I plan on getting an ejaculating dildo. I won't fill it with anything like ejaculate...I'll fill it with vodka and have people blow me until I ejaculate the vodka into their mouths. I have deemed this a money shot.
This is the single most amazing sentence I've ever read. Nygeel, seriously man, my night has been made.
I don't know if my input counts at all (I'm not on T) but mine have gotten a lot better since I started having sex with a guy, as opposed to my girlfriend. It used to take me forever to get off with her, when me and him are doing it I get off in 10-15 minutes. And I tend to make a mess (TMI? I don't know. In advance I'm sorry). Not sure if I've ever had the full body thing either, all I know is that I love getting off because it seems like my mind shuts off and everythings just awesome.
Quote from: N.Chaos on March 29, 2011, 02:27:23 AM
This is the single most amazing sentence I've ever read. Nygeel, seriously man, my night has been made.
I don't know if my input counts at all (I'm not on T) but mine have gotten a lot better since I started having sex with a guy, as opposed to my girlfriend. It used to take me forever to get off with her, when me and him are doing it I get off in 10-15 minutes. And I tend to make a mess (TMI? I don't know. In advance I'm sorry). Not sure if I've ever had the full body thing either, all I know is that I love getting off because it seems like my mind shuts off and everythings just awesome.
I concur that was a pretty awesome statement by Nygeel.
I also get that "mind shut off" thing going on. Like nothing matters for that very small amount of time.
I love it. I wish I could actually get myself off because of it but 9 times outta 10 I can't.
I never got the whole body thing, my orgasms haven't really changed that much. What has changed is how long I can mastubate for, pre T I could reach orgasm really fast and them my dick would be way too sensitive to touch and I couldn't wank again for a quite a while but now I can normally last longer, my dick still gets too sensitive to touch but only for a minute then I can wank again :) I definitely enjoy wanking more now, I used to be frustrated at how quick it was and the orgasm didn't feel as good as it does now.
For me orgasms have really intensified. They feel way better then before, and the longer I'm on T, the better they get. Never had that full body thing, still don't.
hmmm. Refractory period has definately shrunk. Used to be I'd have to wait an hour or two.. now sometimes 15 minutes is long enough.
As for sensitivity - I had no sensitivity pre T. Now it's sensitive as hell. ->-bleeped-<-ing hurts.. but meh. Just be careful about where I touch..
Time to get off.. I used to be able to get off in 15 seconds if I wanted.. or make it last out to 15 minutes. For the first month and a half on T.. it was taking me 5 minutes minimum - fursterating when you want to get off fast.. but with the latest growth (and the latest peak in pleasure lol).. time to get off is dropping down again.
Quote from: Nygeel on May 25, 2010, 12:10:17 PM
I plan on getting an ejaculating dildo. I won't fill it with anything like ejaculate...I'll fill it with vodka and have people blow me until I ejaculate the vodka into their mouths. I have deemed this a money shot.
This just made my day! I teared up laughing ;D
And if I had an ftm boyfriend, I definitely try to get him to do that- I'd rather drink the vodka ::)
I don't get that whole body thing very often, but when I do I have a love/hate relationship with it. It feels awesome, but wrong. And I hate feeling my uterus so much, and it does sort of flip flop when I orgasm. But it rarely happens now anyway. I can't wait until I can start T!
I posted in this thread a while ago when I was pre T, but I remember when I was about a week or 2 on T I realized that my orgasms were way more intense and powerful, and just all together better feeling, I never experienced the whole body thing even pre T, but now they are more genital focused.