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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: glendagladwitch on June 13, 2010, 08:44:32 PM

Poll
Question: Which of these people should I be upset at:
Option 1: (1) The gay filmaker votes: 0
Option 2: (2) The gay reporter votes: 0
Option 3: (3) The DFW GLB community votes: 1
Option 4: all three votes: 2
Option 5: 1 and 2 only votes: 0
Option 6: 1 and 3 only votes: 0
Option 7: 2 and 3 only votes: 0
Option 8: none votes: 7
Title: What should I feel?
Post by: glendagladwitch on June 13, 2010, 08:44:32 PM
The movie "Ticked Off ->-bleeped-<-s with Knives" won top honors at the Q Cinema Film Festival in the Dallas Fort Worth area recently.  This after a very high profile argument in the Dallas Voice between a local transgender activist and the filmaker and a reporter at the Dallas Voice.  There were transgendered people gathered outside the showing protesting the film as well.  The main point of contention was that the gay filmmaker was using the T word and saw nothing wrong with it.  When the activist complained that it was like a white filmaker using the N word, he acted insulted.  A reporter at the Dallas Voice also wrote an article accusing that activist of being a hypocrite for supporting a Transwoman who used the T word in the title of her own film festival.  So what should I feel?  Should I be upset at the DFW GLB community for voting this movie top honors?  Should I be upset at the filmaker or the reporter?
Title: Re: What should I feel?
Post by: LordKAT on June 13, 2010, 08:57:17 PM
Pardon my ignorance. What is DFW?
Title: Re: What should I feel?
Post by: Robyn on June 13, 2010, 10:12:35 PM
DFW = Dallas Fort Worth

I don't think it's worth getting upset over. Upset just makes more people go see it.

Robyn,
who uses '->-bleeped-<-' at times. I don't consider it a pejorative.
Title: Re: What should I feel?
Post by: Asfsd4214 on June 14, 2010, 06:31:22 AM
Quote from: Robyn on June 13, 2010, 10:12:35 PM
Robyn,
who uses '->-bleeped-<-' at times. I don't consider it a pejorative.

I do (consider it pejorative)

I really hate it.

Personally, I would be upset with anybody who used it, trans or no.
Title: Re: What should I feel?
Post by: justmeinoz on June 14, 2010, 06:47:50 AM
Vote with your feet. Don't pay to see it,and try and get friends and rel's to avoid it too. $$$$ Not.
Title: Re: What should I feel?
Post by: K8 on June 14, 2010, 08:23:07 AM
Quote from: Robyn on June 13, 2010, 10:12:35 PM
I don't think it's worth getting upset over. Upset just makes more people go see it.

Robyn,Kate,
who uses '->-bleeped-<-' at times.

I do consider that it can be pejorative, but I use the word sometimes tongue-in-cheek when in accepting company.

What amazes me (and heartens me, actually) is that all this discussion in DFW is going on in the public sphere.  I lived through a time when the word "gay" was only spoken in hushed tones and would never appear in a newspaper (other than with the meaning "joyous").  The word transsexual didn't exist and the only meaning of "->-bleeped-<-" was a car's transmission.  If the argument in DFW can even exist shows wonderful progress.

- Kate
Title: Re: What should I feel?
Post by: Hauser on June 14, 2010, 08:55:11 AM
i saw it. a group of friends and i are horror film buffs and one got a copy of it for free. we get a lot of movies like that.

its a rip off. seriously. a "Trans"(using that loosely) version of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Spit_on_Your_Grave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Spit_on_Your_Grave)   including several straight up ripoffs of dialogue.


and i rather like this: http://www.out.com/detail.asp?page=1&id=26757 (http://www.out.com/detail.asp?page=1&id=26757)  i found it today after i first saw this thread.

Title: Re: What should I feel?
Post by: Kaelin on June 14, 2010, 08:57:07 AM
Regardless of the identity of the characters involved, the premise of the movie doesn't sound worthwhile.  I can't see why there is any positive excitement surrounding it, "t-word" or not.

As for "->-bleeped-<-," I'm not well-suited to judge the severity of the term, but it's not the n-word equivalent.  There is worse slang out there.

"I'm not mad.  I'm just disappointed."
Title: Re: What should I feel?
Post by: confused on June 14, 2010, 09:26:49 AM
i never saw that movie , but i heard about it before
and what makes me angry/disappointed/sad is that movies usually use transgender people as laughing material one way or the other , it makes me really angry
i mean the whole title of that movie is offending to me , not just the word '->-bleeped-<-s'