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Title: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: owl on June 21, 2010, 08:19:58 PM
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Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: insanitylives on June 21, 2010, 08:23:08 PM
You do realize average chicks shave their pits, right? They're not naturally hairless (though media would lead you to think otherwise)


Im rather furry not on hormones. Should answer your question
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Arch on June 21, 2010, 08:27:15 PM
Typo? Do you mean hairy, or hairless?
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Shang on June 21, 2010, 08:31:17 PM
I don't think that's terribly hairy, but, then again, my hair's black in my pits so they always look hairy--even when I shave them.

Like insanitylives says, gals generally shave their armpits.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: James-Alen on June 21, 2010, 08:34:44 PM
I've got narnia under there right now ;D and I'm pre T
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: owl on June 21, 2010, 08:35:23 PM
Quote from: James-Allen on June 21, 2010, 08:34:44 PM
I've got narnia under there right now ;D and I'm pre T

haha sweet!
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Nygeel on June 21, 2010, 08:37:44 PM
That really isn't much hair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi6.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy243%2FHalfway_to_Nowhere%2Fsnapshot44.jpg&hash=50d2b42baafa697bc18db3efb22e3ba4fd849209)
My armpit hair is uneven...lots of hair on one side, not much on the other.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: owl on June 21, 2010, 08:38:15 PM
i wish i had as much hair on my arm pits as you T_T
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Nygeel on June 21, 2010, 08:39:30 PM
I haven't shaved my pits in over 5 years.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: owl on June 21, 2010, 08:41:27 PM
i guess that makes sense
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Nygeel on June 21, 2010, 08:44:22 PM
And I'm 23...long done with puberty. I might have hairy pits but I'm hairless (compared to most FAAB) most everywhere. No belly hair, no random nipple hair, hardly any leg hair.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Vancha on June 21, 2010, 08:48:36 PM
Mine are way worse than any of yours!  :o
They're really long and dark hairs.  To be honest, I don't like it.  I don't want to be a total ape on T.  It's not enough to discourage me, though.  Lots of men don't want to be apes, but have to deal with it... So will I.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: James-Alen on June 21, 2010, 08:49:05 PM
Woot, picture thread! haha

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi30.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc338%2Fshilohackaven%2Fpit.jpg&hash=cb9c4beb40a6bfcf8ec2281777419204617f8847)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi30.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc338%2Fshilohackaven%2Fleg.jpg&hash=d595b32c61db3713ff098b59fe56ef24d86df11f)

I haven't shaved anything in a month or two, but it grows back pretty quickly when I do. I've always been kinda hairy, my arm pits will literally not stop growing so I have to trim them.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Autumn on June 21, 2010, 08:54:04 PM
Alright guys, don't go overboard here. Big pit hair isn't exactly a good quality in a guy... especially if you're going to wear something with short sleeves, at least cut it down not to hang out.

When I was trying to be a guy, I went without shaving. Period; until I was 18. By contrast, to hold onto my femininity, I got my hair trimmed all of 3 times between 4th grade and 19. Both are examples of overcompensating. Being all rararargh hairy beard doesn't make you masculine, and having long, horrible hair doesn't make you feminine.

Not that FTM really need to worry about growing an amish beard, like I used to have... but just don't feel like you HAVE to be super hairy to be a guy. Not all guys are hairy. And if you date men, not being hairy might be a plus anyway. Same way you do not have to have breasts to be a woman. Do they help? Sure do and man my confidence is better with them, but it's not required. Lots of men are clean cut and not everyone has a shadow. And buff bodybuilders wax off their hair anyway :p
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Nygeel on June 21, 2010, 08:58:25 PM
Autumn, I like body hair on myself. Even when I identified as a woman I liked the hair I had. I don't really know how dating men and not being hairy is a plus.

I have no intentions of cutting my pit-hair...I like it.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: owl on June 21, 2010, 08:58:53 PM
But i like being hairy.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: James-Alen on June 21, 2010, 08:59:45 PM
You are absolutely right Autumn. I agree, man there are bio dudes in my town when I was in high school that didn't have a hair on their whole body it seemed o.o Most of them were kinda in that emo cliche. I'm setting a bad example ;D but I couldn't help myself. I don't think being hairy makes a person more masculine, though I dig guys that are (via that mountain man look) thus potential of experiencing that myself gets me all giddy.

Hehe this is true, hair would hide those fantastical muscles!
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Autumn on June 21, 2010, 09:03:42 PM
Grooming is an aesthetic thing. Unless you work a job with particular requirements, nobody can force you to do anything. I wasn't directing what I said at anyone in particular. However, if as a dude, you decide to make a fashion statement in public of say, a wifebeater with giant pits and scraggle forest on the chest, it paints you in a certain demographic. Same way as if a MTF cakes on a ton of makeup and an age inappropriate miniskirt. You are welcome to portray yourself however you wish, but do so with the knowledge of what it means.

Not all men are hairy. Not all gay men like hairy men. Not all women like hairy men. Not all men let their hairiness flourish, and many do take steps against it. What I am saying as a broad statement on the topic is not to feel like hairiness is a requirement or a definition of masculinity. I sure wish somebody would have impressed on me that my beard would have looked a LOT better maintained, and that my hair would have been healthier and way prettier had I taken it in for trims, too.

Plus, everyone really needs to trim their pubes. Oh my god.

Edit: This is not me railing against body hair. I'm actually hot for James now because armpit hair is actually an important part of arousal - keeps the scent of the body. When clean, it's incredibly erotic to notice the scent of your partner. And his leg hair looks soft and cozy. Don't tell my girlfriend.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: James-Alen on June 21, 2010, 09:09:11 PM
Quote from: Autumn on June 21, 2010, 09:03:42 PM
Edit: This is not me railing against body hair. I'm actually hot for James now because armpit hair is actually an incredibly important part of arousal - keeps the scent of the body. When clean, it's incredibly erotic to notice the scent of your partner. And his leg hair looks soft and cozy. Don't tell my girlfriend.

;D  ;)
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Nygeel on June 21, 2010, 09:09:14 PM
I strongly disagree with the statement "everybody needs to trim their pubes."
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Autumn on June 21, 2010, 09:17:08 PM
Quote from: Nygeel on June 21, 2010, 09:09:14 PM
I strongly disagree with the statement "everybody needs to trim their pubes."

Okay. "Everyone who wants to receive oral sex needs to trim their pubes." Opting out is self-sustaining.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Charles321 on June 21, 2010, 09:18:13 PM
I'm about close to james but more and a little darker. LEgs and under arms. My bro thinks a monkey lives under my arms. HE's young. I'M pre-t. CAn't imagine what ill look like with t.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Nygeel on June 21, 2010, 09:22:44 PM
Quote from: Autumn on June 21, 2010, 09:17:08 PM
Okay. "Everyone who wants to receive oral sex needs to trim their pubes." Opting out is self-sustaining.
No.
If I'm with a woman I'd prefer her to have hair than no hair and don't mind a big ol' bush and I have gone down on a few women. If she feels like shaving, waxing, trimming for herself and how she feels about it, that's fine.

Me...I wanna be awesomely hairy like Kelsey Grammer or Sacha Baron Cohen.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: owl on June 21, 2010, 09:31:16 PM
Quote from: Nygeel on June 21, 2010, 09:22:44 PM
No.
If I'm with a woman I'd prefer her to have hair than no hair and don't mind a big ol' bush and I have gone down on a few women. If she feels like shaving, waxing, trimming for herself and how she feels about it, that's fine.

Me...I wanna be awesomely hairy like Kelsey Grammer or Sacha Baron Cohen.

As soon as i start T i want to be BEAST BOY! I hope to grow so much hair!
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Nygeel on June 21, 2010, 09:32:17 PM
Quote from: Damian on June 21, 2010, 09:31:16 PM
As soon as i start T i want to be BEAST BOY! I hope to grow so much hair!
Wolverine!
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: owl on June 21, 2010, 09:34:48 PM
Quote from: Nygeel on June 21, 2010, 09:32:17 PM
Wolverine!

YESSSSS :D
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: James-Alen on June 21, 2010, 09:37:29 PM
I wanna be val Kilmer as Doc Holiday ;D god I love that satan's stache
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: owl on June 21, 2010, 09:41:13 PM
I want a full on john lennon beard. I hope to grow a beard as soon as possible, i can't WAIT. T is so close...can't...wait...  :icon_cry2: :icon_tears:
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: jmaxley on June 21, 2010, 09:43:18 PM
I keep the bushes under my arms trimmed.  I'm afraid if I don't, I'll lift my arm and the bush will knock someone out

Still can't grow hair on my legs.

It's really odd, but the more the dysphoria grows, the less I mind being hairy.  I'm actually looking forward to leg hair now.  Just three or four months ago I was dreading having more body hair.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Bones on June 21, 2010, 09:45:29 PM
Quote from: jmaxley on June 21, 2010, 09:43:18 PM
I keep the bushes under my arms trimmed.  I'm afraid if I don't, I'll lift my arm and the bush will knock someone out


LMAO That had me on the floor laughing. Too funny!

I have pretty hair pits. I haven't shaved in a couple years...my leg hair is pretty nice on the top of my leg, but I can't grow a thing on the backs of them or my thighs.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: James-Alen on June 21, 2010, 09:45:56 PM
Is it really a myth that shaving makes hair darker? I could'a sworn my happy trail got darker and longer after I shaved it a few times.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Charles321 on June 21, 2010, 09:48:15 PM
Quote from: James-Allen on June 21, 2010, 09:45:56 PM
Is it really a myth that shaving makes hair darker? I could'a sworn my happy trail got darker and longer after I shaved it a few times.




Happens to my hair.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Autumn on June 21, 2010, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: James-Allen on June 21, 2010, 09:45:56 PM
Is it really a myth that shaving makes hair darker? I could'a sworn my happy trail got darker and longer after I shaved it a few times.

It's a myth.

A hair follicle is tapered down, thin at the tip and thicker farther down the shaft. When you shave, you blunt it off. It does not make hair thicker and darker in a growth and coverage sense, but it makes it more obvious. If shaving made you grow hair, we wouldn't need hair transplant surgery :p
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: James-Alen on June 21, 2010, 09:55:20 PM
haha true fact! I hadn't thought of that.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Shang on June 21, 2010, 10:04:20 PM
Quote from: James-Allen on June 21, 2010, 09:45:56 PM
Is it really a myth that shaving makes hair darker? I could'a sworn my happy trail got darker and longer after I shaved it a few times.

If that happened to my hair, then I'd be in some real trouble because it's already black. :P  And long.  I get it from my dad.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Charles321 on June 21, 2010, 10:05:10 PM
Quote from: Autumn on June 21, 2010, 09:53:20 PM
It's a myth.

A hair follicle is tapered down, thin at the tip and thicker farther down the shaft. When you shave, you blunt it off. It does not make hair thicker and darker in a growth and coverage sense, but it makes it more obvious. If shaving made you grow hair, we wouldn't need hair transplant surgery :p

Aw, guess I was wrong. I just get more obviously hairy.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Osiris on June 21, 2010, 10:33:45 PM
I think shaving helps the first few times. In my experience some peach fuzz has a darker root so shaving it enables the darker hair to come in. I know my beard has gotten much fuller after shaving as has my treasure trail (though I don't shave that anymore). I'm sure in its own time the dark hairs would have been able to come in on their own but I do think shaving helped speed up the process.

I've always been told shaving helps stimulate the growth, and in my experience it has.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Arch on June 22, 2010, 12:33:40 AM
Quote from: Bones on June 21, 2010, 09:45:29 PM...my leg hair is pretty nice on the top of my leg, but I can't grow a thing on the backs of them or my thighs.

I was afraid I was the only one with a weird hair pattern on my legs. My thighs are coming in nice and woolly, but I only get hair on one side of my calves. WTF??
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Nygeel on June 22, 2010, 12:37:10 AM
I have no hair on the back of my calves, above my knees or insides of my calves.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Michael Joseph on June 22, 2010, 12:46:59 AM
Quote from: Nygeel on June 22, 2010, 12:37:10 AM
I have no hair on the back of my calves, above my knees or insides of my calves.

I have hair that grows on every part of my legs, theres not one part that hair doesnt grow.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Crow on June 22, 2010, 01:14:14 AM
Okay, I just couldn't resist the opportunity to take rediculous pictures of myself posing with my armpit...

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg532.imageshack.us%2Fimg532%2F7966%2Fdianearmpitjune212010.jpg&hash=401f5a6d528fd81465570be9c567020bc91812c5)

...I mean, how many times does one come across such opportunities? x3

In any case, I'm pre-T. That is what my armpit looks like. Ta-daaa?


I'm fairly indifferent about what happens with my body hair, as long as it's not uncomfortable. Having experienced both shaved and unshaved armpits, I've concluded that unshaved is more physically comfortable for me, so that's what I do. Simple as that. Admittedly, though, after having left everything unshaved for so long, I've grown rather fond of the fuzz. (Obviously, if I ever end up with facial hair, I'll groom that a bit more carefully-- however, the rest of my fuzz can do as it pleases, as long as it's not being bothersome.)
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: elvistears on June 22, 2010, 01:20:21 AM
All my body hair is long and dark.  I think I could almost tie a knot in my pit hair! I have more manly looking leg hair than a lot of dudes I know and my arms are super hairy too.  I tried to take a pic but my crappy webcam kept flashing out all the hair!  Anyway, wasn't called the Werewolf in high school for nothing...

Another weird hair thing is that I have three long dark chest hairs splat in the middle of my chest, as well as a whole bunch of smaller ones.

I think I'm gonna explode into a ball of hair once I start T.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Arch on June 22, 2010, 01:30:02 AM
Quote from: elvistears on June 22, 2010, 01:20:21 AMI think I'm gonna explode into a ball of hair once I start T.

I would like to see that. LOL.

P.S. Werewolf. I love it.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: SnailPace on June 22, 2010, 02:04:21 AM
I just decided to stop shaving my armpits recently so their in that "Whoo! I'm almost a centimetre long! *splaysplaysplay*" stage.  You know the one.  They look pretty goofy right now in my opinion.  My leg hair just looks sparse and pitiful at the moment...
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Papillon on June 22, 2010, 03:47:46 AM
This is one aspect of T that I am a little nervous of.  I have mediterranean origins and am pretty damned hairy anyway (arms, legs, happy trail).  What if I get a hairy back on T?  Nooooooooo!  I will become a hermit and hide in a cave.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Alessandro on June 22, 2010, 06:51:20 AM
Quote from: James-Allen on June 21, 2010, 08:34:44 PM
I've got narnia under there right now ;D and I'm pre T

Ditto.  My sister peers at me all  :o when I wear a vest. 
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: James42 on June 22, 2010, 11:14:24 AM
I love my armpit hair! Lol I like relaxing with my hands behind my head and I can see my hair, weird?

I wish I had more leg hair tho, it might be from all the years of wearing shin guards, idk
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Arch on June 22, 2010, 11:24:08 AM
Quote from: Papillon on June 22, 2010, 03:47:46 AMWhat if I get a hairy back on T?  Nooooooooo!  I will become a hermit and hide in a cave.

I don't know what I'll do if I wind up having a truly hairy back. I find that highly unattractive in other guys. It's actually a dealbreaker; I was planning to shag this one guy till I saw his back.

It was only casual sex, anyway. But, dammit, I was horny.

Some guys wax...
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: James-Alen on June 22, 2010, 11:31:50 AM
I can understand that. It would be rough for me too. I like hairy macho guys, so if I turn into one, they'll be less interested in me (if that makes sense). I like having body hair but an Austin Powers chest and back would be just a little too much.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Shang on June 22, 2010, 11:33:51 AM
Quote from: Arch on June 22, 2010, 11:24:08 AM
I don't know what I'll do if I wind up having a truly hairy back. I find that highly unattractive in other guys. It's actually a dealbreaker; I was planning to shag this one guy till I saw his back.

It was only casual sex, anyway. But, dammit, I was horny.

Some guys wax...

Same here.  I can't stand hairy backs.  Actually, I can't stand any hair other than pubic on a guy--but I also like my guys to appear very feminine, preferably where I can't tell if they're male or female.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: noxdraconis on June 22, 2010, 12:26:18 PM
I love having body hair.  I sometimes stroke my arms, legs, or chest like one would do to a dog just to feel the hair.  But then again, I am a rather weird guy.

On a totally unrelated note, I absolutely LOVE the pattern on your shirt in that picture, Crow. 
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: owl on June 22, 2010, 03:01:44 PM
Quote from: noxdraconis on June 22, 2010, 12:26:18 PM
I love having body hair.  I sometimes stroke my arms, legs, or chest like one would do to a dog just to feel the hair.  But then again, I am a rather weird guy.

me to, haha
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Nygeel on June 22, 2010, 03:24:06 PM
I also play with my leg hair when bored. I pet it and try to get all the hairs to go in the same direction then mess it up and pet it again.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: noxdraconis on June 22, 2010, 03:53:44 PM
Quote from: Damian on June 22, 2010, 03:01:44 PM
me to, haha
Quote from: Nygeel on June 22, 2010, 03:24:06 PM
I also play with my leg hair when bored. I pet it and try to get all the hairs to go in the same direction then mess it up and pet it again.

You guys too?  That is awesome.  Maybe I am not such a weirdo after all  :laugh:
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: elvistears on June 22, 2010, 03:57:57 PM
I want stomach hair! and (more) chest hair!  I love fur.  I'd even be cool with some back hair.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: owl on June 22, 2010, 03:58:10 PM
 :laugh:

We are all weirdos :P
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: harlee on June 22, 2010, 04:30:44 PM
At the moment all I just really want a happy trail ;D I just cant seem to make it grow!

My legs dont have that much hair, and its mostly blond so its harder to see. About 70% of the boys in Grade 10 at my school shave their legs either way. But its probably just cause some popular dude was doing it  :P
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Crow on June 22, 2010, 04:45:13 PM
Quote from: noxdraconis on June 22, 2010, 12:26:18 PM
On a totally unrelated note, I absolutely LOVE the pattern on your shirt in that picture, Crow.
Oh, thanks! Good to know my pajamas have been approved of. |D


Also, I will admit to playing with my fuzz, as well. Though I've always been a huge fidgetter, so that's not much of a surprise. I chew on pencils. I chew my nails. I fold napkins and handouts into paper airplanes. I play with my earrings. I play with my hair (head orotherwise, though I don't just sit around petting my armpits in public or anything rediculous like that). Yeah, I'm that person. So petting my fuzzy legs is hardly unexpected. x3
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Miniar on June 22, 2010, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: Nygeel on June 21, 2010, 09:09:14 PM
I strongly disagree with the statement "everybody needs to trim their pubes."

Small things disappear in large bushes.

Thus.. I trim it all off...
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: accord03 on June 22, 2010, 07:28:32 PM
I don't want too much hair anywhere. My armpits, I'll trim it and I'm sure I won't get much hair on my leg. Now, I wanna have a rugged facial hair  ;D
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: owl on June 22, 2010, 07:31:49 PM
Oh god, i can't wait for facial hair. it shall be heaven for me.  :icon_dance: :eusa_dance:
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Elijah3291 on June 22, 2010, 07:45:55 PM
I just want regular male body hair.. right now I shave my pitts, and my leg hair is so light you cant see it, and my arm hair is blonde

I just want a nice facial hair stubble, brown leg hair that I can actually see, regular pitt hair that I will probably shave, and a nice happy trail.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: owl on June 22, 2010, 07:57:34 PM
mm yes happy trail.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: Autumn on June 22, 2010, 07:58:18 PM
Quote from: Arch on June 22, 2010, 11:24:08 AM
I don't know what I'll do if I wind up having a truly hairy back. I find that highly unattractive in other guys. It's actually a dealbreaker; I was planning to shag this one guy till I saw his back.

It was only casual sex, anyway. But, dammit, I was horny.

Some guys wax...

Laaaaaasssseerrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: kyril on June 22, 2010, 08:25:34 PM
Quote from: Arch on June 22, 2010, 12:33:40 AM
I was afraid I was the only one with a weird hair pattern on my legs. My thighs are coming in nice and woolly, but I only get hair on one side of my calves. WTF??
The only area on my legs (in fact, the only area on my body outside head/pubic/underarm) where non-peach-fuzz hair grows is from about four inches below the bottom of the knee down to about two inches above the ankle bone. It's a really fine dark blonde that's almost indistinguishable from peach fuzz except that it gets longer, at which point it just looks ridiculous because it only exists in this band around my lower calves.

And the hair under my arms is really coarse and curly like steel wool - there's not a lot of it, but it's uncomfortable. I'm not a big hair fan anyway so I just shave everywhere.
Title: Re: Arm Pits (Pre-T)
Post by: James42 on June 22, 2010, 08:54:35 PM
I definitely can't wait for facial hair! *sighs* yes, it'll be a happy time