I know at 38 i'm a (bit) older than a lot of you on here and so our experiences will be different but i find that when i'm with a group of my female friends be they straight lesbian or bi they all talk the same language and its one i dont know. Its almost like theyve taken a class and have the same knowledge base as each other but one that makes no sense to me. Does this happen to anyone else? We can be all sat around talking and the women are nodding away and agreeing on things like an unspoken code that goes completely over my head
I have a similar problem, but kind of opposite. I actually have trouble with talking to other transmen. I don't seem to either care or know about the issues they want to discuss, or when I don't agree it does not go over well lol.
I was raised in the lesbian community, having identified as one from the age of 12 till 15. Having been really involved with activism in high school I became even closer with some of them because at that time I wasn't able to find a trans community where I live. Even when I finally did find one they tended to be more MTF people. It seems like in the last few years the FTM community in my area has really started being more out and active, obviously these same people were always here but we just didn't have many groups or anything like that to meet one another. At this point I am just lost and confused around them half of the time lol.
I was brought up in the lesbian community as well. 20 something years ago it was the only word i knew to describe someone like me; even tho i knew it wasn't quite right. But now i feel like i dont really fit in anywhere
From what I have been told from other trans people that seems to be common. A lot of communities seem to alienate them once they come out and are no longer identifying as lesbians. I am lucky that where I live they are pretty open and cool with me still, but it does seem like it isn't always so lucky for everyone.
Maybe someone with an experience more like yours will have something to say lol.
You're not alone in this one buddy. Ever since I came out to all of my friends and have been living full time as a guy it feels as though I don't...fit in with those girls any more. Not so much lesbians one (since I didn't have many lesbian friends) but just normal girls. I was invited to my friend's birthday party a few weeks ago and it was a bunch of our female friends and her boyfriend. But I was able to talk to her boyfriend more naturally and socialize with him much more than the rest of the girls at the party.
Before (with that specific group) I sort of fit in but not really. Even back then I was somewhat bored/confused with what they were talking about or how they acted/behaved.
I guess it's because the more we transition the more we grow into who we really are therefore we find those types of things more...foreign than they were years before we started to transition.
Thats definitely the right word- foreign. I mean, i was brought up in basically the same way as my friends, have lived a similar life, yet they all seem to intrinsically know things that i dont- almost like they went to a class for femaleness, even the butch ones in the group. I'm left scratching my head thinking how can something that comes so naturally to them seem so alien to me
Quote from: al james on July 02, 2010, 02:52:22 PM
I know at 38 i'm a (bit) older than a lot of you on here and so our experiences will be different but i find that when i'm with a group of my female friends be they straight lesbian or bi they all talk the same language and its one i dont know. Its almost like theyve taken a class and have the same knowledge base as each other but one that makes no sense to me. Does this happen to anyone else? We can be all sat around talking and the women are nodding away and agreeing on things like an unspoken code that goes completely over my head
I've felt like this since I was a kid. I always had trouble making and keeping female friends because we just couldn't communicate - they expected me to understand what they were saying, and I just didn't. I was always friends with the boys. And that of course fueled the resentment, because the girls assumed I was sleeping with their boyfriends.
It was actually kind of frustrating sometimes because I knew I was queer (gay) and I felt like I ought to have a lot of things in common with lesbians, but trying to form friendships with them was like trying to converse with aliens. Straight girls are less hostile, but equally confusing.
I have the opposite issues. I don't get along well with guys, I understand them but don't like the things they like and I am not interested in the things they seem to be interested in.
I get along great with women, almost every person I consider a friend is female with the exception of one gay guy who I've been friends with for 7 years. I do have guys that I talk with sometimes but I don't really ever hang out with them. Despite being a hetro man I just don't seem to have anything in common other than liking women. I enjoy the "female" role I was raised with, cleaning, organizing, taking care of the home, etc.
At least Bianca is similar, she has a hard time getting along with other women and talks with men easier. She enjoys the male role of working on the car and fixing things... so we have that balance in our relationship. We both also seem to have a difficult time talking with other trans people. We get along well enough online, but in real life we barely talk to the trans people we know and we almost never hang out with anyone else who is trans.
I don't really know what it is, but the ways you all talk about feeling about women is similar to how I feel about guys and the trans people in my day to day life... like it's all just foreign to me. I wonder what it is about people in general that makes things seem that way, sometimes even with people we should be able to relate to and get along with well.
Maybe it's just the basic idea of different experiences and being raised certain ways. I don't know, I feel like I don't really have anything to say but for some reason I'm finding this conversation relevant to me even if I do have to flip around the ideas to fit my situation lol.
It depends on the girls in question. Like my best mate Alex is a very boyish lesbian and we get on great. She understands me really well. I guess she's sort of on the masculine spectrum so that might make it different.
However my new flatmate Jodie is MAD AS A SNAKE and I cannot understand her for the life of me. She came in and asked me and my other flatmate Tim if we knew any good sunbed places....we were like, uh what do you think?! She talks to me about her boyfriend and I'm like, well I understand where he's coming from but not where you are. Back when I was still presenting as a girl I was constantly giving straight girls advice on what their boyfriends meant/thought.
Sometimes I am actually amazed straight girls and guys even manage to make it work!
In real life to be fair i have a hard time talking to anyone unless i already know them quite well. The guys i do hang around with are ones that are on the same wave length: my wife and my best mates wife say that me and him must be twins cos we are so similar in everything we do and our reactions to things. in fact we have quizes like " what would you do if this hapened" and we are scarily alike. Men as a whole tho i don't necessarily understand but theres definitely more common ground than with females
I've felt the gulf between me and women widening lately. I find a lot of females conversation kind of boring. Most of the time, their talk centers around people they know...yawn fest.
I've never understood women. From kindergarten to now, I have never understood them. They are a different species. But I still like talking to them, and even though I may not understand them completely.
I'm sort of awkward in that way with most people, regardless of gender. Just sort of socially inept.
But I'm oblivious and don't usually catch those subtle cues girls seem to like to throw out a lot more than guys. And girls make me more nervous too. And usually don't really share my interests.
Quote from: SilverFang on July 02, 2010, 11:35:21 PMBut I'm oblivious and don't usually catch those subtle cues girls seem to like to throw out a lot more than guys.
I had a gf who was like that. She never communicated with words, ever... and by never, I mean she would never give any input on anything either. She just expected people to know what to do.
Quote from: Lachlann on July 03, 2010, 12:25:46 AM
I had a gf who was like that. She never communicated with words, ever... and by never, I mean she would never give any input on anything either. She just expected people to know what to do.
:eusa_wall: That never works. Or maybe it does, I have only seen it cause problems though. Anybody have any input?
Quote from: jmaxley on July 02, 2010, 10:06:09 PM
I've felt the gulf between me and women widening lately. I find a lot of females conversation kind of boring. Most of the time, their talk centers around people they know...it's really boring.
Yeah! It really is. I have noticed this in not only my female friends/family members but also the women who have come into my work place. My girlfriend is no exception to this. When I'm around her friends and her...->-bleeped-<-, sometimes I just want to just punch one of them to stirr up excitement.
Quote from: Lachlann on July 03, 2010, 12:25:46 AM
I had a gf who was like that. She never communicated with words, ever... and by never, I mean she would never give any input on anything either. She just expected people to know what to do.
Yeah...well maybe that's not just a female thing. Maybe it's an insecurity issue. I knew a few people like that. They were the "odd ball" of the group. Always quiet. No one really knew what they were thinking. Then one day they just fall off the face of the Earth...and you don't even notice them going. I still think it's more of an insecurity thing.
I've always had this problem. I had a lot of trouble making and keeping female friends because I could not get into what they wanted to talk about and do. And while I did love clothing, I had very little interest in typical female clothing.
In one of my recent classes, the work group I was in was all female and they thought it was odd that I had little desire to run my mouth with a ton of smalltalk at all times. One finally said I reminded her of her boyfriend because of that, and I was like, "Yeah, ya think?"
I work with predominantly women. I've never understood the need for women to talk and talk and talk and explain/tell the same things over and over and over. And I don't get why shoes are so fascinating, especially the ones you can't walk in. And they're always complimenting each other on their outfits. I don't get it. ;D
Never did before, either. My ears glaze over.
Jay
my girlfriends eyes light up when we pass a shoe shop- shes like a m->-bleeped-<-ie. And how many handbags do they need- especially the little ones that wont even fit a mobile phone in. I mean, what is the point? Oh and sneakers? good liluck for monday
Quote from: al james on July 03, 2010, 03:46:25 PM
my girlfriends eyes light up when we pass a shoe shop- shes like a m->-bleeped-<-ie. And how many handbags do they need- especially the little ones that wont even fit a mobile phone in. I mean, what is the point? Oh and sneakers? good liluck for monday
Speaking of handbags, my girlfriend and the majority of her friends all have this...
thing with handbags.
1. What they do is they have a small wall/purse type thing...pretty big though. It has all of their credit cards, ID cards, etc. inside along with seperate compartments for checkbooks and/or coins, and photos.
Ok I understand that. You need a place to keep your money safe and organized. That's what we call a wallet.
2. They then carry a small purse. Small purse usually have...uh...I dunno, make up? I guess. I'm not too sure. They're all different.
3. Then after that small purse, they have a bigger purse or "hand bag" they call it. And they carry that small purse, that wallet (that is inside that smaller purse) all with...other stuff they "need"...
4. (This happens when I see them in a school setting) Last but not least...so they have this huge bag on their shoulder yeah...that has their mini purse and wallet inside that mini purse...then they are LUGGING around this backpack with their laptop, and like 2 books inside...that could easily be fit into their HUGE handbag that has their stupid mini purse inside and their little wallet inside...
I have asked them to explain why they do this MULTIPLE TIMES...sometimes they don't seem to know themselves. It bothers me.
Quote from: [CRYPT] Chris on July 03, 2010, 04:08:27 PM
Speaking of handbags, my girlfriend and the majority of her friends all have this...thing with handbags.
1. What they do is they have a small wall/purse type thing...pretty big though. It has all of their credit cards, ID cards, etc. inside along with seperate compartments for checkbooks and/or coins, and photos.
Ok I understand that. You need a place to keep your money safe and organized. That's what we call a wallet.
2. They then carry a small purse. Small purse usually have...uh...I dunno, make up? I guess. I'm not too sure. They're all different.
3. Then after that small purse, they have a bigger purse or "hand bag" they call it. And they carry that small purse, that wallet (that is inside that smaller purse) all with...other stuff they "need"...
4. (This happens when I see them in a school setting) Last but not least...so they have this huge bag on their shoulder yeah...that has their mini purse and wallet inside that mini purse...then they are LUGGING around this backpack with their laptop, and like 2 books inside...that could easily be fit into their HUGE handbag that has their stupid mini purse inside and their little wallet inside...
I have asked them to explain why they do this MULTIPLE TIMES...sometimes they don't seem to know themselves. It bothers me.
Best day of my life was when I threw my purse in the trash and went to a wallet (duh!). The only thing that tripped me up early in transition was that monthly scourge and where to carry that stuff. Duh. Cargo pants.
Jay
Quote from: al james on July 03, 2010, 03:46:25 PM
my girlfriends eyes light up when we pass a shoe shop- shes like a m->-bleeped-<-ie. And how many handbags do they need- especially the little ones that wont even fit a mobile phone in. I mean, what is the point? Oh and sneakers? good liluck for monday
I own 6 or 7 different type of handbags, but all are large enough to fit what I need in them. I have them to go with different outfits and different moods and different atmospheres. I love shoe stores, too, but I only buy shoes that I can walk in and where comfortably because I've had surgery on my toes.
I have a big handbag and then I have a bookbag. Both are meant to hold different things for me. The handbag holds personal stuff and then things like fun stuff (DS and books) and the bookbag is for school stuff.
Anyway...I don't get along with bio girls, at least not well enough to talk to them outside of school. I can't seem to grasp anything they want to do, but MtFs seem to be the exception to that. I get along amazingly well with MtFs and I have no idea why. I also get along better with guys and understand them for the most part, but if they're a feminine guy we get along even better.
I guess I just don't understand people who are too feminine or too masculine.
Quote from: [CRYPT] Chris on July 03, 2010, 03:33:50 AMYeah...well maybe that's not just a female thing. Maybe it's an insecurity issue. I knew a few people like that. They were the "odd ball" of the group. Always quiet. No one really knew what they were thinking. Then one day they just fall off the face of the Earth...and you don't even notice them going. I still think it's more of an insecurity thing.
I know, I don't think it's a female thing either. And she was definitely insecure.
Speaking of purses: I still carry a messenger bag because I usually wear skinny jeans. It's actually a messenger bag for guys. I always carry my digital camera around, my glasses, chapstick (dry lips are gross haha), and those oil absorbing sheets (I'm an oily dude). I just can't fit all that into my pants >.> I am a bag and shoe whore. I have a ton of different messenger bags and like 10 pairs of shoes.
I don't understand the whole bag inside a bag inside a bag thing though.
I find the extremely feminine girls to be a bit of a mystery and sometimes highly annoying lol
I never, ever, ever in a million years would have carried a purse. Actually, when I was a little kid, I made a big deal out of swearing up and down that I would never have one.
Basically, my theory is that the stuff you carry expands to fill the space you have to carry it. Limit yourself to pockets, and you'll never be too weighed down.
I actually went thro a stage of denial in my twenties and mum bought me a handbag for christmas. It got left in every single place i went to cos i just used to forget about it. Me and handbags were obviously never meant to be a match
Quote from: kyril on July 03, 2010, 05:16:01 PM
I never, ever, ever in a million years would have carried a purse. Actually, when I was a little kid, I made a big deal out of swearing up and down that I would never have one.
Basically, my theory is that the stuff you carry expands to fill the space you have to carry it. Limit yourself to pockets, and you'll never be too weighed down.
I also swore I'd never have a purse...and yet I find myself with a bunch of them. If I limited myself to pockets, I wouldn't have the necessary things I need in case of an emergency. Plus, I like having a book with me just in case I go somewhere for lunch....
Though I agree. The bigger the purse, the more stuff I carry.
Don't worry the ipad makes man purses okay now. haha
Quote from: Shang on July 03, 2010, 05:25:43 PM
I also swore I'd never have a purse...and yet I find myself with a bunch of them. If I limited myself to pockets, I wouldn't have the necessary things I need in case of an emergency. Plus, I like having a book with me just in case I go somewhere for lunch....
Though I agree. The bigger the purse, the more stuff I carry.
I figure I can handle any emergency with a credit card, a pocketknife, and a cellphone.
Quote from: kyril on July 03, 2010, 05:44:24 PM
I figure I can handle any emergency with a credit card, a pocketknife, and a cellphone.
I need my personal phone book because my cellphone only makes 911 calls, and I can't ever remember my parents' phone number or the country code to call them.
And I'm fond of carrying mace because I'm not physically capable of fending someone off with a pocketknife. *grumbles about weak arms*
LOL! I'd never try to fend someone off with a pocketknife, it's for fixing things and cutting stuff :)
Quote from: kyril on July 03, 2010, 05:49:45 PM
LOL! I'd never try to fend someone off with a pocketknife, it's for fixing things and cutting stuff :)
Haha! That's what my father taught me.
"A knife is a tool, not a weapon".
Though as a martial artist, you learn very fast that a knife can be a weapon.
Quote from: kyril on July 03, 2010, 05:49:45 PM
LOL! I'd never try to fend someone off with a pocketknife, it's for fixing things and cutting stuff :)
Whoops, misunderstood--but I know people who can use a pocketknife to fend people off, makes me a bit jealous. I just use my hands if something needs cutting because I'm too lazy to get scissors and then I keep forgetting to put the pocketknife in my purse. Though my pocketknife is pretty bada**, the thing is still really sharp despite being used to carve a pumpkin.
Are u allowed pocket knifes over there? I may be wrong but i'm 99% we're not allowed by law- unless u can prove your a fisherman!
Quote from: al james on July 03, 2010, 06:15:39 PM
Are u allowed pocket knifes over there? I may be wrong but i'm 99% we're not allowed by law- unless u can prove your a fisherman!
Pocketknives are allowed. I think if you get into a fight, though, your obliged to tell your opponent you have a knife so that way you can use it without any legal repercussions.
For me, a knife is a tool and a weapon. I don't have physical stamina to fight people off...so a knife or mace is awesome. As long as said person doesn't touch me, if you touch me I'll fall instantly to the ground with a scream (that's partially joking, if I was in serious danger I'd probably go running, but if you're a friend and you touch me [like wrestling] I will fall to the ground and squeal).
Quote from: al james on July 03, 2010, 06:15:39 PM
Are u allowed pocket knifes over there? I may be wrong but i'm 99% we're not allowed by law- unless u can prove your a fisherman!
I think it depends on which state you live in. In the UK you can carry a pocket knife with a blade of 3 inches or less.
that would be strange, I didn't know there was any country that banned small pocket knives.
Thanks Greg, that'll teach me to listen more carefully to things. Now, where did i put my penknife?
I've always had this problem too! Girls in general just seem rather boring to me, and many are quite annoying. They talk and talk and talk and talk and never shut up. I'm quiet by nature, and I just don't see the point of yapping about anything and everything. Plus, about 99% of the time it's a conversation about shoes/clothes/other girly things I don't care about.
I don't get the purse thing either! My sister has a huge purse that she has to lug around everywhere she goes. It's got all kinds of ridiculous stuff in it. For me, I can carry everything I need in my pockets. Cell phone, driver's license, debit card, and a pocket knife. (Useful for cutting things and I'm not afraid to use it as a weapon.) I can't think of anything else I'd need on a daily basis, although when I need my laptop I carry it in a messenger style case slung across my body. And what's up with girl pants having absolutely useless pockets? They drive me mad!
As far as knives go, I wasn't aware of any laws banning them as long as the blade is 3" or less and it's not a switchblade. (I live in the US.)
Quote from: Farm Boy on July 03, 2010, 06:50:46 PM
And what's up with girl pants having absolutely useless pockets? They drive me mad!
You mean the ones that you cant even get half your hand into, let alone car keys money cigarettes and all of the rest of the junk i carry?
Most of my friends are girls. I'm usually entertained by most of the conversations, but occasionally I do just switch off or have nothing to say about a particular subject.
Now if my female friends had more conversations about knife laws then I'd be ok 8)
I would say its cos of where you come from except i know that when my gf reads this shes gonna slap me. which could be a good reason for putting it ;D
Please don't be offended it was meant as a joke
Quote from: al james on July 03, 2010, 07:10:32 PM
I would say its cos of where you come from except i know that when my gf reads this shes gonna slap me. which could be a good reason for putting it ;D
Please don't be offended it was meant as a joke
Ha yeah you're probably right. Shy and retiring is not a common trait around here :laugh:
I found that out when i met my partner. Also found out that getting dressed up to go on a night out even just to a mates house meant the full works. In fact she did say that its totally unheard of for people NOT to get dressed up in Liverpool for a night out. Mind you shes the same age as me so dont know if its the same now. I ve never managed a night out there; only visited during the day
It is most definately the same now. What confuses me most is fake eyelashes. I'll stand up for a second and when I go to sit down again someones fake eyelashes will be sprawlled out all over my seat along with the rest of the make-up kit.
Quote from: Greg on July 03, 2010, 07:31:02 PM
It is most definately the same now. What confuses me most is fake eyelashes. I'll stand up for a second and when I go to sit down again someones fake eyelashes will be sprawlled out all over my seat along with the rest of the make-up kit.
Those confuse me, too. They're strange things to me.
The whole make up thing always confused me. In a way i was quite glad to realise i was trans cos it meant i was never gonna have to do those things that i didnt understand anyway
I like my man liner. Guys in eyeliner are smexy.
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I've never understood women. I remember in middle and high school just standing there...trying to figure out why I felt like and knew I didn't fit in or understand a thing they said. I still don't understand them. The more I live as male the less I comprehend them. Esp their emotions.
I'm supposed to have a Ph.D. on the subject of women. But the truth is I've flunked more often than not. I'm very fond of women; I admire them. But, like all men, I don't understand them.
Frank Sinatra
If Frank didn't understand them what chance do us mere mortals have
I don't think women are that hard to understand. I get along with both men and women equally well.
I categorize things into different types of people, as I've seen both exhibit similar types of behaviour based on the kind of person they are. One gender might be more inclined to act a certain way based on their up bringing, but it's not a definite.
The comic Crypt posted has some truth to it. That's how my emotions changed while on T, but I don't think it changes how people choose to act about their emotions either.
I hate girls jeans/trousers, they have no pockets and I don't know WHY? I mean I'm only wearing a pair today because I have no others clean (I need to go on a clothes buying spree at some point) and I don't know what to do with myself. I'm looking into buying a messenger bag, or at least a bag that doesn't look female. All I have is my rucksack/backpack thing and my knitted bag that's too feminine.
I can't get on with women either. I just never know what to say. But I've always gotten on with men/boys, I guess now I know why. *laughs* Well, I can't stand, or get on with chav men, they scare me. Chav's in general scare me. They're just....pointless, heh.
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OMG - that is just priceless.
I've just more or less wet myself laughing.
I say Vive La diference! After all it's your wonderfully straight forward and uncomplicated attitudes that makes you guys so fascinating.
You really just don't seem to notice the complexity and multiple layers of some aspects of life. I had a brief glimpse of your world, from previous experience, before estrogen and progesterone fully activated and turbo boosted that emotional part of my brain!
The simpistic emotional viewpoint of a male does make for a wonderfully uncomplicated, if sometime baffling (when dealing with those of us on the female side) life, but to be frank I still prefer my emotional complexity. :laugh:
meh I still get emotions pilled on top each other... just not as bad as used to
Quote from: al james on July 02, 2010, 02:52:22 PMI know at 38 i'm a (bit) older than a lot of you on here and so our experiences will be different but i find that when i'm with a group of my female friends be they straight lesbian or bi they all talk the same language and its one i dont know. Its almost like they've taken a class and have the same knowledge base as each other but one that makes no sense to me. Does this happen to anyone else? We can be all sat around talking and the women are nodding away and agreeing on things like an unspoken code that goes completely over my head.
THIS! Big time! My stepmom did say it explains why many times I'd have a confused look and glazed eyes. It
is a different language! However, I have little problem with guy conversations which would probably make women feel the same thing.
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Quote from: elvistears on July 02, 2010, 07:16:13 PMShe talks to me about her boyfriend and I'm like, well I understand where he's coming from but not where you are. Back when I was still presenting as a girl I was constantly giving straight girls advice on what their boyfriends meant/thought.
Boy do I understand this. I get SO MAD at women who carry on and say it's all the man's fault without looking at what they're doing or trying to see it from the guy's point of view. It's a two way street.
That comic made me hungry and wanting chicken pot pie.
Quote from: al james on July 03, 2010, 06:55:55 PM
You mean the ones that you cant even get half your hand into, let alone car keys money cigarettes and all of the rest of the junk i carry?
AUGH. Okay, this drives me bonkers. I don't get why girls' pants are so damn tiny, how they squeeze your bottom half in all these gross places so that even if you're female-bodied, and tiny - I have an extremely fast metabolism and my BMI is somewhere in the twentieth percentile for my age, even though I eat a lot - it's physically uncomfortable to get yourself into them.
Oh, and something else? Talking in the bathroom. This happens to me all the time at school, where some chick in the stall next to me wants to have a bonding experience when I am TRYING to take a crap. Jesus.
*deep breaths*
...I'm okay.
Ha! Sorry to barge in.. I just came back from chemistry exam and saw this post, then I saw all the purses talk!
Here is the bag I carried for the exam today (ungirly, ha!):
It was just a normal black backpack, which included:
20 pages I printed with chemistry sheets for the university exam.
Chemistry book.
War of the Spider Queen book 3.
Games Graphics Programming book.
My pencil case (it's cute though)
Cell phone
Wallet with all my IDs, student card, credit card :P
Umm...... I think that's about it.. IT WAS HEAVY!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh and I didn't use the two extra books at all. Just the chemistry stuff.. I always carry a book or two extra though :P
I actually have handbag but I rarely use it.. it's not comfortable to hold things as you go around.. I use it only when I feel expected to. It as enough size for everything..
I have another hand/shoulder bag which is smaller and easier to carry as it is on the shoulder.. I only take it if I only need money cause my wallet won't fit the pockets :P Also putting things in pockets doesn't seem to help.
At one point I used to have make up in my bag but I stopped, I just never use make up, I tried for a bit, it was nice but I rarely find a reason to.. I might put it if I was going out for something fun, but just for school.. no reason. I do use sunscreen though ^^
I noticed men are becoming more and more foreign to me. They always were, I always got along well with women, but now 2 years after starting it seems to become stronger and stronger.
I just find myself much more comfortable with women, easier to talk to, enjoy, pass time, even with random ones.. Although sometimes it's really fun talking to random men too! in a way that never happened before :)
But other times men can just be HORRIBLE, like even if you can find someone to talk to at random, it's rare and it's different from what it is with a woman, although at times it can be nicer, I dunno, maybe cause they are men :) But women are jsut easier to spend time with usually. And men that I know for sometime usually become harder and harder over time to be with. So yeah, at sometimes men can be great, much more fun than a woman. It is different.. :) But it usually doesn't last. And the conversations are just way different, not sure how to explain it.
The way I socialize just changed a lot it seems. Being able to just easily engage conversation with a complete stranger and both of us have fun so easily.. is nice. Also I seem to be giving subtle info to my opinions and feelings better.
Though I can't really understand men.. just ask my boyfriend :P A lot of them are just weird, childish, messy, weird, irrational, childish, weird, childish, weird.. umm.... But hey, I know they say quite a few things about me.. "she's messy, she's clumsy, she's silly, she's...... irrational, illogical, emotional.." So it goes both way.
Many times I notice that men really do treat me simply as different species, like, they won't want me in their conversation, they might rather shut up if there is a woman around.. or they tend to treat me as if I am this "cute little silly person" (someone told me that, without the silly part) and have fun in a way. if it's one man only than they usually act much better though, suddenly you are a bit more of a person to them... But not all are like that at all!
As for the actual guy friends, well.. just like been said, different species! But hey, my boyfriend is awesome <3 Even if we speak two different languages we simply love each other :) We do have a lot of understanding and comfort. The way we think is different, but that's how it is! And there are similarities.
So.............. My bag is HUGE! and heavy!!!!!! :P And it's good, I break my back and lose weight ;) + I have geeky books in it which I might actually read sometime...............!!!!!!!!!!