Hi everyone, I was hoping someone can help me with a certain burning question. How can I get those ful, curvy hips and small waist. I took some very low dose natural hormone pills and they did nothing for me. What can I do to get that beautiful figure eight figure. Thanks.
See a gender therapist and get prescribed estrogen.
Tink,
Hmm..hippy
curves as on the winner of
the Queen of the Universe
swimsuit clip thingy
you posted....OMG.
But seriously folks' I am
to understand that if there
is no blood supply to the
fat cells they will be
aborbed by the body
Always Love,
Heather Rose
Quote from: heatherrose on November 22, 2006, 03:45:25 AM
Tink,Hmm..hippy
curves as on the winner of
the Queen of the Universe
swimsuit clip thingy
you posted....OMG.
But seriously folks' I am
to understand that if there
is no blood supply to the
fat cells they will be
aborbed by the body
Always Love,
Heather Rose
Well, according to Refugee, anyone can accomplish an eight figure using tape and I don't know what else.....LOL :D ;D....check out the following thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,7086.0.html).
tinkerbell :icon_chick:
What you need to do is to find a surgeon who will break your pelvis bones, stretch them, pin them apart, and force them to grow together. That will give you wider hips. That's the only solution that I know of. Hormones will not do it.
Chin up!
Cindi
I have looked into a surgery, unlike liposuction,
where they phyically move the fat cells
intact with the blood supply remaining attached,
from the abdomin to the hips.
It is prohibitively expensive if I remember correctly.
Corset training may be another alternative.
Will narrow your waist and make your hips appear wider.
Always Love,
Heather Rose
Wow, thanxs for all the response.
Lol at Tinkerbell, u kno luv, dreams can come true. I thought about the liposuction and fat transfer, but after doing some research, it seems that the body absorbs the fat injected, so it's not permanent. :( . And Cindi, all I can say is OUCH!! I would love to have wider hips, but I'm not sure I want it that badly, that procedure sounds very gruesome. And it's discouraging to hear that hormones won't do the job either.
Well I guess it's tapes, corsets and padding for now. I just do not like false advertising, lol! And Heather Rose, if u find more info on the procedure where the fat cells are physically moved please fill us in. I am very interested. I'll also do my research, thanxs again.
xoxo
Diamond
Quote from: LaideeBdiamond on November 22, 2006, 08:04:03 PM
Wow, thanxs for all the response.
Lol at Tinkerbell, u kno luv, dreams can come true. I thought about the liposuction and fat transfer, but after doing some research, it seems that the body absorbs the fat injected, so it's not permanent. :( . And Cindi, all I can say is OUCH!! I would love to have wider hips, but I'm not sure I want it that badly, that procedure sounds very gruesome. And it's discouraging to hear that hormones won't do the job either.
Well I guess it's tapes, corsets and padding for now. I just do not like false advertising, lol! And Heather Rose, if u find more info on the procedure where the fat cells are physically moved please fill us in. I am very interested. I'll also do my research, thanxs again.
xoxo
Diamond
Hey just look at the bright side...you will not have to spend thousands of dollars in fat injections and your rib cage will not be broken.....just buy some duck tape, gauze and a couple of elastic strings and voila, you are done, an eight figure woman without the pain of surgery, the time of recovery and so forth....LOL...sorry I couldn't resist... ;D
tinkerbell :icon_chick:
Hmmmmm,
An 8 figure woman simply from the use of tape, gause and string.
Does the "Donald" know about this?
8 Figures that's like,
$10,000,000
Sold the truck, I'm on the way to the
medical supply store.
Always Love,
Heather Rose
Oh Heather, I was just jivin a bit. There really is no surgery to do what I suggested. But I think that it is possible.. that they could do it. It does sound a wee bit painful though does it not?
Have you ever seen the South Park episode where they lambasted TS people? They made one of the little short kids tall into a basketball star because the kid felt like an NBA star trapped in a little kid's body. And the surgeon did up one of the kid's dads into a dolphin because he had always felt he was a dolphin trapped in a man's body. When the surgeries were finished, the basketball player couldn't run because his knees weren't strong enough and the dolphin man couldn't swim. I thought that it was fairly clever. But they obviously had no sense of what it really does feel like from our view of things. Although I thought it funny, it also gave me a disquieting feeling.
Cindi
hormones can help alot with the shape, but i think its got more to do with genes ( im 33 28 34 and not on hrt yet) and the right pair of jeans can do wonders too, lol
Quote from: Tinkerbell on November 22, 2006, 04:17:37 AM
Well, according to Refugee, anyone can accomplish an eight figure using tape and I don't know what else.....
If that's how it sounded, that's not what I meant. Pageant girls use all kinds of tape, etc to look that good in their outfits, etc, but you can't make miracles happen with just sticky things.
Refugee,
Just running with a funny thought, sweety.
Cindi,
I do understand, there is a surgical proceedure such as you spoke of.
Though not as extensive.
Along with, removal of the lower set of ribs and
removing a few inch or so of the femar,to shorten your stature.
Definitely not a path I choose.
Always Love,
Heather Rose
I had that lovely figure figure we all desire. Small waist gently curving out to female hips. I was also quite well endowed on top too. Yes, I had a body to die for.
Then I woke up.
The only way I know for a genetic male to get that womanly figure is to begin HRT at or before puberty. Maybe that's what happened in the dream.
At least we can still sport some cleavage. :P
Julie
Ummm it's just a wish but i'd like some and for that matter the rest of the treatment boobs, feet, shoulders, hair, eyes, etc...
I'll ask again tonight to be awoken in the morning "right"...
agghhhhh
cheers
ricki
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought estrogen does help the hips/buttocks a little bit...
I've definately noticed more fat around my "bottom" since beginning HRT.
I've also seen transwomen with no butt at all. Incidentally, it looks like the ones with the smallest bottoms are also the skinniest. It makes sense to me (and I've been following this plan) that you would want to be relatively skinny before beginning HRT, but start eating alot once hormone levels get closer to that of a GG... the reasoning being that the fat will now distribute mostly to the breasts and butt. Fat can't go to these places if it doesn't exist to begin with, right?
Long story short... I've been trying to eat more, and I can say with a fair amount of certainty that my butt is getting bigger. Now, if we're talking about hips and buttocks separately that's one thing, but it's been my impression that once the butt is sufficiently padded with fat, the fat will start to come around to pad the hips as well. This is easiest to see when sitting, I think.
Does this seem consistent with others' knowledge or experience?
If I could change my shape by wishing..... I'd shorten my torso by about 6 inches, make my legs 3 inches longer, lengthen my neck by a couple inches and shrink my noggin by 4 inches. Then I'd change my rib cage to be about 28 inches round. Widen my hips by about 3 inches. Yea...
On second thought, my original wish for world peace seems a bit easier to accomplish.
Cindi
Quote from: Julie Marie on November 24, 2006, 07:34:01 PM
I had that lovely figure figure we all desire. Small waist gently curving out to female hips. I was also quite well endowed on top too. Yes, I had a body to die for.
Then I woke up.
Julie
LOL ;D :D ;)
Quote from: Cindianna_JonesIf I could change my shape by wishing..... I'd shorten my torso by about 6 inches, make my legs 3 inches longer, lengthen my neck by a couple inches and shrink my noggin by 4 inches. Then I'd change my rib cage to be about 28 inches round. Widen my hips by about 3 inches. Yea...
Hey, you'd be surprised on the types of surgeries available nowadays. I read somewhere that some women undergo this painful procedure which involves breaking the bones of the fingers in order to make the hands look smaller. ???
tinkerbell :icon_chick:
Quote from: Kiera on December 02, 2006, 08:24:38 AM
Hey Elaine!!! Being a GB first who, unlike most males, has never been a big fan of huge breasts or hips I'd say one should be careful about what one wishes for!!! ;) While I would agree that your initial diet idea is very good I am also working under the assumption that by working on the waistline perhaps the girlie curves will have to eventually follow???
Could you elaborate on "working on the waistline"?... Do you mean a specific excercise, or just dieting?
Quote from: Kiera on December 02, 2006, 08:24:38 AM
...we're doing this for ourselves right? (and NOT some man's idea of fun!)
:icon_bunch:
Right! And I also have to agree with you about artificial padding. You put it perfectly by saying that that's for CD's, not TS's... I want to
be more curvy, not just look it.
Than again, I pick and wear clothes that accentuate the hip area (zip-up sweatshirts without elastic on the bottom are usually good, for example). To what extent is that faking? I don't think it is... of course we're not going to wear clothes that accentuate a
boyish figure, and this is no different for genetic girls.
Quote from: Kiera on December 02, 2006, 01:13:21 PM
Quote from: Elaine on December 02, 2006, 12:10:56 PM
Could you elaborate on "working on the waistline"?... Do you mean a specific excercise, or just dieting?
Well, I guess I mean both - Steph recently posted a web link to a <a href="http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/">BMI calculator</a> and I was amazed when it said that, given my 'stats', I was overweight because I've never thought of myself so, especially as a boy. Try it yourself and see!! Not being that muscular I've been trying to justify going on a diet and now . . . is that site for recovering anorexics? ? ? :o
More Good News - my "house mate" John (longtime best friend / NOT gay!) is very overweight with a serious medical condition and has a cupboard full of nutrisystem food (very expensive) he doesn't like so guess who's eating it!!! I've been looking for cloths that will accentuate the way I feel about myself too but definitely don't want to OUT to anybody, especially John!!! While I know he will be fully accepting and supportive of anything I choose to do (I literally saved his life once and am looking to perhaps having to do it again) telling him would be like posting a banner ad in the middle of Grand Central Station. He talks way tooo much and while that may prove useful one day NOT TODAY!!!
:icon_bunch:
If you're trying to loose wait than, if you can get to the point that you're light for your height, you could start putting on carb weight along with HRT (if HRT is your path, I don't presume to know you status or transition plans)... I truly believe this is a good recipe for proper fat redistribution (works for me!)
The BMI calculator is very interesting. I thought the limits for the different numbers were different for men and women. It looks like I'm right in the middle of normal, but I was also able to find out how much weight I can put on (bread and pasta!) and still be in the norm range.
You know Kiera, having someone like John can be very helpful when you're ready to let people know. As long as he's someone who can tell people "the right way", it could make it a lot easier on you to not have to personally go to everyone you know and tell them your situation.
South Park:
Completely not worth getting worked up over.
Congrats on starting your HRT, Kiera! In no time at all you'll be thinking, "damn, my nipples hurt!" and you'll love it anyway. :)
I've seen plastic surgery to put implants into the buttocks so I was just wondering why the same thing couldn't be placed over the hips? I would think that implants using that "gummi bear" silicone gel would do perfectly there.
I have to wonder where the scar could be hidden though.
helen
Kiera, congratulations! The soarness is all very good... it lets you know things are happening!
Helen, I was wondering that too. It certainly seems like a realistic operation.
Also, I suppose most of us are aware about the stem cell research going on with growing uteruses, and the possibility of a T-women being able to give birth in the future. If this ever happens (and I'm sure it will eventually, I just wonder if it will be in our lifetime), than the issue of hip-width arises as a serious medical issue. If a T-women of the future has the ability to give birth, than the hips would have to be wide enough to perform the physical act. I'm guessing that either a C-section would have to be the "normal" delivery method, OR, interest will be sparked in hip-widening surgery.
Another thing... there is such a thing as hip replacement surgery, isn't there? Couldn't someone just have a bigger hip installed? Haha, I realize that probably sounds ridiculous as I'm sure that is a very invasive procedure, but I wanted to point it out.
Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in, since this is an issue Ive been thinking about for some time now.
As far as surgical hip inserts, and where the scars would be hidden, Ive heard of a breast implant where they simply put a bag in the breast, and then inflate it with liquid via needle. Are saline bags bad? I dont remember ever hearing about problems with them, but I dont hear about them at all anymore. Anyway, inserting a bag causes much less of a scar, because of the bag's deformability. It would be neat if they could do that to my little hips. I have a little waist, but little good that does me when my hips are only marginally bigger!
I have my own theory behind naturally increasing one's hip size. If you excersize your outer-most hip muscle (rectus femoris?), it seems like it would augment your hips... and hopefully in a pleasing manner. I didnt keep up with the excersizes when I thought of it, but this thread has rejuvinated my enthusiasm to try that.
For me, I started with a nice butt before HRT and since being on hormones, I have gain some in the way of hips and some on my butt and overall, I'm prett pleased with the results. I only weigh about 2 pounds more than when I started, so it is pretty much all fat redistribution (unless muscles shrank and fat appeared :-\). If hip surgery was made available, I would probably forego it. I am pretty happy with the size and shape of my body.
Melissa
If that kind of hip surgery were possible I would think that the recovery would be so bad that It would not be worth it. It takes someone months to recover from a broken hip. This would be more invasive than that...unfortunately. I have a really small butt and waist and have to find something to help fill out my girl jeans.
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My mum just had hip replacement surgery and it doesn't change the angle of your hips; it's just a metal insert into bone. If you changed the angle of your hips, it would cause all kinds of trouble with alignment. You definitely wouldn't want to go there just for wider hips. The recovery is extremely painful, even without that added complication.
Besides, guys think girls with narrow hips are hot. Enjoy it, ladies.
Dennis