I wish I had posted this sooner but I couldn't get to a computer at the time and then when I could Susan's was down (which is becoming a constant problem as of late).
At around 7:30 pm on Thursday July 1, 2010, a joke was made about Lady Gaga on the 98.7 FM radio station that primarily serves the Phoenix, AZ metro area. The following non-verbatim dialogue went as follows:
End of one of Gaga's songs. Woman's voice commentating (Amy might be her name):
"Did you hear that Lady Gaga was dressing up as a man? Can you believe that? (hehe) How crazy can she get? Or is it a he? Or an it? I don't know. (hehe)."
Then it cut to the next song. I figured many others in this city would have heard this including GLBT and GLBT-friendly listeners but I haven't found any complaints about it on the internet. I should have called and complained to the radio station but sadly I always seem to catch problems at the moment where I have zero time to deal with them. Anyway, better late than never. I don't think it is too late if people want to complain about it.
To be balanced here, the commentator was clearly making a joke and I doubt that it was deliberately done to offend anyone. On the other hand, I wasn't laughing and I don't see how anyone with gender dysphoria or who knows people with gender issues would find it funny either. It sounded to me like the commentator was just trying to be funny but didn't know anything about transgender issues and therefore had no knowledge about the implications of such a joke.
Since this is a few days old, I don't know if it is worth calling to complain about or not. It is possible the station already received a host of complaints although nobody bothered to post it on the net. If I do decide to not pursue this issue any further than posting this complaint publically on Susan's, I'm going to be damn sure I pay more attention in the future about these kinds of things and try to take more prompt action. I don't think organizations such as GLAAD, GLSEN, and other GL (but T friendly) organizations would be happy about it either. Thoughts anyone?
This has been around for a long time and Lady GaGa herself has promoted it at times.
I'd let it alone.
JMO
Cindy
About the hermaphrodite rumors, Lady Gaga told Australian radio station: "My beautiful vagina is very offended. I'm not offended; my vagina is offended. I'm not embarrassed. I sold four million records in six months; I'm not embarrassed about anything. I think this is society's reaction to a strong woman. The idea that we equate strength with men and a penis is a symbol of male strength, you know, it is what it is. But like I said," the dance-pop diva reiterated, "I am not offended at all, but my vagina might be a little bit upset.
If she's fine with it, everyone else ought to chill.
Perhaps I should hold her vagina until it feels better.
She say's she has been celibate since the entire Fame Monster deal started. All that fame leave little room for ->-bleeped-<-ing. But I've seen her twice, and you'd have to get in line behind me Rebis. I love her. The music (at least this music, I'm sure she will do other stuff down the line) not so much, but as a performer, she's the real deal, and I find that so hot.
Quote from: Rebis on July 07, 2010, 10:52:39 PM
Perhaps I should hold her vagina until it feels better.
I giggled and I couldn't help it.
I'd say leave it be, and I might have giggled if I had heard the joke. But Lady Gaga just makes me giggle in general.
I had the feeling she is a strong performer. She appears totally at ease with herself. I'd like to hang around with gaga.
She not only outsold all other artists last year, she came damn close to outselling all of them combined.
I would have thought that people would no longer be surprised at anything Lady GaGa does!
People are fools, which is why Mr. T has to come out of retirement and clobber them with his polyester mohawk.
Lady Gaga and Mister T - that's almost a force of nature.
Quote from: tekla on July 09, 2010, 12:13:02 PM
Lady Gaga and Mister T - that's almost a force of nature.
Someone should write a comic book about it..."The T-Ga team"?
Aren't they kind of cartoons as it is?
I don't think it's an offensive joke.. I don't even think it's a joke. It's just the DJ expressing her perplexity at Gaga's eccentric and ever-changing ways. She just doesn't know what to think of her anymore, and feels a bit funny about that. It has nothing to do with you, with gender-benders, or expressionists.
Oh it's a joke, it's just not a good one, which explains why they are in Phoenix, and not some major market.
Quote from: tekla on July 11, 2010, 03:10:12 PM
Oh it's a joke, it's just not a good one, which explains why they are in Phoenix, and not some major market.
nicely done.
I'm sure it was spoken from ignorance, not from spite.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a comic to write... Mohawks away!
From this side if the pond, judging by what is in the press and on TV, Arizona sounds like an inappropriate joke. >:-)
I got an inappropriate joke. Three jaffa warriors meet on the battlefield. The Horus guard, his beak glistens, the serpent guard, his eyes glow, the Setesh guard drools. Ack, it's funnier in the original Goa'uld ;-).
Well I wanted to see what everyone thought. It sounds like it isn't a big deal. I'm aware that Lady Gaga doesn't care because if she did she would not be encouraging all the publicity in the first place. My concern was the part where the host used the term "it." While Gaga may not care, it could have derisive connotations to other less popular/famous people who cross gender lines. In any case, I'm not going to worry about it unless it keeps happening.
On the other hand, does every thread about Arizona have to turn into BS about SB 1070? We don't want illegals here and they don't have a right to be here. Period. People who do the smart thing and watch less TV and read more critically will understand that the actual version of the law is very different than what the media portrays. The media wants you to think that the police are going to stereotype everyone of Latino descent and interrogate them about their immigration status. The truth is that the bill prohibits racial profiling and requires double probable cause for an arrest for immigration violation. First, they have to have probable cause you have actually done something illegal (traffic violation, criminal conduct) to stop and interrogate you in the first place. Then they have to have further probable cause to believe you are here illegally (if you can't identify yourself accurately, no record is found, mis-matches, no ID while driving, etc.). This applies to all illegals including those from Europe who are white. But some people choose to believe what the TV tells them rather than read actual facts. I don't even care if the illegal is a trans person. Get them out of here. The good news is that many of these illegals are leaving Arizona and going to your states where soon you'll agree with me and get your own similar law passed.
Likewise, if you don't have an intelligent response to a thread topic, maybe you shouldn't post. I'm tired of all the state stereotyping which is of zero use to anyone asking a question. If someone mentions a problem in Phoenix, it becomes the "racist Arizona" crap. If it is a problem in Dallas, stupid posts arise about "Texas should just secede from the union." Or if it is in Mississippi, it is because "look at the history of the South." Honestly if you can't answer a question without bashing where someone lives or has grown up (which is not exactly a choice), maybe you should just shut it.
Quote from: Britney_413 on July 13, 2010, 03:19:39 AM
Well I wanted to see what everyone thought. It sounds like it isn't a big deal. I'm aware that Lady Gaga doesn't care because if she did she would not be encouraging all the publicity in the first place. My concern was the part where the host used the term "it." While Gaga may not care, it could have derisive connotations to other less popular/famous people who cross gender lines. In any case, I'm not going to worry about it unless it keeps happening.
On the other hand, does every thread about Arizona have to turn into BS about SB 1070? We don't want illegals here and they don't have a right to be here. Period. People who do the smart thing and watch less TV and read more critically will understand that the actual version of the law is very different than what the media portrays. The media wants you to think that the police are going to stereotype everyone of Latino descent and interrogate them about their immigration status. The truth is that the bill prohibits racial profiling and requires double probable cause for an arrest for immigration violation. First, they have to have probable cause you have actually done something illegal (traffic violation, criminal conduct) to stop and interrogate you in the first place. Then they have to have further probable cause to believe you are here illegally (if you can't identify yourself accurately, no record is found, mis-matches, no ID while driving, etc.). This applies to all illegals including those from Europe who are white. But some people choose to believe what the TV tells them rather than read actual facts. I don't even care if the illegal is a trans person. Get them out of here. The good news is that many of these illegals are leaving Arizona and going to your states where soon you'll agree with me and get your own similar law passed.
Likewise, if you don't have an intelligent response to a thread topic, maybe you shouldn't post. I'm tired of all the state stereotyping which is of zero use to anyone asking a question. If someone mentions a problem in Phoenix, it becomes the "racist Arizona" crap. If it is a problem in Dallas, stupid posts arise about "Texas should just secede from the union." Or if it is in Mississippi, it is because "look at the history of the South." Honestly if you can't answer a question without bashing where someone lives or has grown up (which is not exactly a choice), maybe you should just shut it.
OK I can totally see Britney's point of view. She did post the original question out of concern that 'on air' people were taking cheap and nasty shots at TG people. I support her concerns, although in this instance I think we can decide that Lady Ga Ga has instigated some of the publicity.
I also agree that joking about where people live in a disparaging way can become tiresome. Hy one comment may be a joke, a list of them is a tirade.
I think this thread has run its course and I will close it.
However Britney if you want it reopened or think I am being unfair please pm me for the former and Nero or Susan for the later.
I would like to thank you for bringing a potentially insulting comment to the board for discussion.
Cindy