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Title: frog bra chest binder
Post by: jonjon on November 22, 2006, 01:34:32 PM
So i been shopping around in ye' old internet for some stuff and i have found very few sites that sell the frog bra chest binder (by far the best i've found so far and want)

But i can only see it available in the US. I live in the UK and Title Nine dont ship to the UK, not that i can see anyway. I cant see any going on ebay at all... this has annoyed me. I want a chest binder so bad >_< I know my chest is diddly squat anyway... but i just want that extra flatness when i go out  :(

Anyone know where i can get some decent and comfy chest binders from in the UK?
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: Nero on November 22, 2006, 01:41:36 PM
Underworks does international orders. Didn't see a frog bra though.
But one of their products would probably work for you.
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: Dennis on November 22, 2006, 01:41:58 PM
Underworks ships to the UK I think. You can also pick up a surgical abdominal binder that works well, probably at a chemist or surgical supplies shop.

Dennis
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: jonjon on November 22, 2006, 03:14:17 PM
hmm... i had a look on underworks. But there's one reason i like the frog bra because it doesn't cover my abdomen, just the chest area and i'm failing to find anything other than the frog bra that covers just the chest area.

I'll have a look for some of that surgical stuff. Never even heard of it before.
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: ray on November 22, 2006, 03:30:16 PM
Some people fold up the Underworks' binders for extra binding.  You could do that and then it wouldn't cover your abdomen area.  Or you could just cut it.

I own their double front binder size XS and I like it.  This is my first binding product though so I don't know how it compares to anything else.  FYI I found the fold up method to be a bit too tight for my taste.  I like the flatter look but not at the expense of being able to breathe comfortably.
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: Julie Marie on November 22, 2006, 04:58:19 PM
I've been looking for something like.  Still gotta be male for work and it's getting hard to hide things.  Should have asked the guys here.  :eusa_doh: Thanks!

Julie
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: Kismet on November 22, 2006, 08:40:25 PM
Wosser frog bra?
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: Steph on November 23, 2006, 06:14:42 AM
Quote from: Draeden on November 22, 2006, 08:40:25 PM
Wosser frog bra?

It looks like this:

http://www.titlenine.com/jump.jsp?itemType=PRODUCT&itemID=82

Steph
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: Dennis on November 23, 2006, 11:24:49 AM
For those who aren't too large, apparently a swimmer's rash guard, which looks like a tank top, also works.

What worked best for me was a homemade binder that looked like the top half of a tank top and was made of non-stretchy material.

Dennis
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: Andrew on November 24, 2006, 06:24:35 PM
I have the Double Front Compression Shirt--I'm wearing it right now, in fact. It binds really flat, but if you're not too big or you like baggy, layered clothing, you might not need it. (I'm a 36B). If you're looking for total flatness, though, it's great. My friend who lives down the hall from me knows about me being transgendered now, and he said he never suspected--when I told him about it, he said he'd never guess from seeing me in a t-shirt (and I'm always wearing t-shirts!)
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: Transguykid on November 27, 2006, 09:29:56 PM
I recommend Underwork's tri-top. It's only half length so it doesn't cover your tummy, and it's three layers on the front. I have the frog bra, and it isn't much better than wearing two sports bras and it's much less comfortable.
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: Nero on November 28, 2006, 07:15:10 AM
Quote from: Ethan Michael on November 27, 2006, 09:29:56 PM
I recommend Underwork's tri-top. It's only half length so it doesn't cover your tummy, and it's three layers on the front. I have the frog bra, and it isn't much better than wearing two sports bras and it's much less comfortable.
I have the tri-top, too. I know a lot of guys get those long ones, but if my gut were compressed, I wouldn't be able to breathe. It's also comfortable enough that I've fallen asleep in it before and been ok.
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: EmergeAndSeeExit on November 28, 2006, 10:34:16 AM
i have the long one and i only take it off when i shower, and to wash it. i can breathe fine.
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: lolli on November 28, 2006, 11:36:05 AM
Hey Wishy,
I live in the Uk as well, but my chest size is beyond my control.
I went to debenhams and got a sports bra like the one Steph has shown.
They come in differing support ranges 1-5 and 5 being the firmest.
I use a 4 whilst mountain biking and in the gym.

Do a search for firm control sports bras/ crop tops.
Minx.com
Girls run too women's sportswear,running & cycling.
Both great sites.

you should find something there.
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on April 04, 2007, 04:14:25 PM
The tritop underworks binder is def. amazing.  I ordered the small.

you can wear it with a tshirt and it looks great. also, with polos and button ups.  if you wear a wife beater with it (with button ups) it looks even better. plus it gets you the more "pec" look.

i personally love it :)
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: metal angel on August 24, 2009, 07:45:09 AM
do you think there's much of a health risk from binding such a sensitive tissue so tightly? I don't think i'd ever want surgery, if these things every betray me and get cancer or something they're off, but i'd certainlt rather avoid it. I don't intend to go full time, i'd like to morph back to my female persona when desired. So i want to hide them now and then, but i also don't want to damage anything.
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: Radar on August 24, 2009, 09:41:52 AM
I searched in stores and on the internet for awhile, but the only place I found where you could buy a Frog Bra was on Title Nine's website. The Frog Bra doesn't work as well as a binder but it still helps. If your chest isn't very big you might be able to get away with just wearing that.
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: DamagedChris on August 24, 2009, 09:59:10 AM
Quote from: metal angel on August 24, 2009, 07:45:09 AM
do you think there's much of a health risk from binding such a sensitive tissue so tightly? I don't think i'd ever want surgery, if these things every betray me and get cancer or something they're off, but i'd certainlt rather avoid it. I don't intend to go full time, i'd like to morph back to my female persona when desired. So i want to hide them now and then, but i also don't want to damage anything.

Just so you know, I have experienced some breakdown of tissue since wearing them so much...i.e. your tits will sag when going back. I don't know about the cancer, though they may aggravate back problems and if you bind too tight you can actually risk cracking ribs. I know my back problems got worse as soon as I started binding full-time...top surgery is definitely very high on the priority list...
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: Jay on August 24, 2009, 10:40:55 AM
I brought from underworks and didn't like how it covered my stomach either but there is one on there but I can't remember which one its called.. but I know for sure they do one...

Can't you try the compression tops they have here from running??! If you are really small?

Jay
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: Jamie-o on August 24, 2009, 05:32:07 PM
Quote from: DamagedChris on August 24, 2009, 09:59:10 AM
Just so you know, I have experienced some breakdown of tissue since wearing them so much...i.e. your tits will sag when going back. I don't know about the cancer, though they may aggravate back problems and if you bind too tight you can actually risk cracking ribs. I know my back problems got worse as soon as I started binding full-time...top surgery is definitely very high on the priority list...

I'm just wondering if you are on T, and if so, if you started noticing sagging before or after starting.  The reason I ask is that T will also affect breast tissue, so I'm wondering if the sagging that most transguys experience is related to the T, the binding, or both. 

Oh, and the rib-cracking usually happens with guys who use ace bandages because, A) it allows them to bind too tightly, and B) being much narrower, it puts a lot more pressure on a much smaller space.  I doubt if that would ever be a problem with a proper binder, unless a person had major bone density issues to begin with.
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: metal angel on August 25, 2009, 06:40:43 AM
hrmmm... this doesn't sound promising for either comfort, or morphing back to my female form... maybe i'll go back to my over-sized coat idea...i reckon a big enough fur collar could do the trick, maybe i could pull-off the effeminate rock-star look?

hrmmm... i do like to call my intention "morphing" my little brother used to follow me round the house saying "if you could have any supernatural power what would it be" and i alwayse said it would be to change my gender at will... don't know why he kept asking, i blame autism.
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: DamagedChris on August 25, 2009, 10:59:00 AM
Quote from: Jamie-o on August 24, 2009, 05:32:07 PM
I'm just wondering if you are on T, and if so, if you started noticing sagging before or after starting.  The reason I ask is that T will also affect breast tissue, so I'm wondering if the sagging that most transguys experience is related to the T, the binding, or both. 

Oh, and the rib-cracking usually happens with guys who use ace bandages because, A) it allows them to bind too tightly, and B) being much narrower, it puts a lot more pressure on a much smaller space.  I doubt if that would ever be a problem with a proper binder, unless a person had major bone density issues to begin with.

I am pre-T, and have tissue breakdown issues after the binding. As for the rib-cracking, I'll agree that that's mostly from ace bandages (which I've had to do more recently due to my binder getting lost)...I never cracked any personally, but I can tell the discomfort level is much higher. I have gotten short of breath running in a binder though.
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: myles on August 25, 2009, 12:45:33 PM
I had tissue break down but have three strikes against me: T, binding and turning 40 this year (so some was due to age). The T seemed to definitely cause the sagging to increase greatly.
Myles
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: JonasCarminis on August 25, 2009, 07:27:06 PM
i had a lot of breakdown after a year of binding with no T, then even more after starting T.  my bags resembled my grandmas after about 6 months on T.
Title: Re: frog bra chest binder
Post by: metal angel on August 25, 2009, 08:46:32 PM
yeah, speaking of grandma, currently my bust looks nice on female me... but i keep toying with the idea of getting them off when they deflate.