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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: jaspeer on July 13, 2010, 01:34:50 PM

Title: ...Ok, now that was just mean, Susan.
Post by: jaspeer on July 13, 2010, 01:34:50 PM
Ok so I'm young of age, and I can't tell you that because Susan says so, which already annoys me.
But I thought I had found a place to buy Testosterone, but I can't link it to you because that topic was banned, and Susan says so. Any FTM person whom is desperate to be a boy would seek other alternatives to get Testosterone, yet when I think I've found one you shut me down? WHAT. THE. HELL.
So what? I can't get advice to see if I'm both wasting my money or pumping rat poison into my veins? That's really pretty cruel.

I'm a little disappointed considering I'm desperately seeking help, and no one has said exactly what I've done so wrong. Someone help me out, tell me exactly how asking if I'm going to kill myself through a fake drug deserves to be deleted?
Title: Re: ...Ok, now that was just mean, Susan.
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 01:45:35 PM
If you are talking about self medicating, that's illegal and dangerous and it's a banned topic here at Susans. Please wait till you can get legal drugs from a pharmacy and after getting a prescription. I don't know if hormones can kill you but theres always a risk when putting substances into your body, especially if a doctor hasn't said it's okay.
Title: Re: ...Ok, now that was just mean, Susan.
Post by: insanitylives on July 13, 2010, 01:48:30 PM
Try lauras playground.
there's a word sensor and you'll probably still get an attitude about self-medicating as a teen(i assume?)

there's a reason T is controled

and it doesn't seem you're in the right mind to be making decisions right now, just because you seem a bit ..off. Not sure.
Title: Re: ...Ok, now that was just mean, Susan.
Post by: jaspeer on July 13, 2010, 01:54:19 PM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 13, 2010, 01:45:35 PM
If you are talking about self medicating, that's illegal and dangerous and it's a banned topic here at Susans. Please wait till you can get legal drugs from a pharmacy and after getting a prescription. I don't know if hormones can kill you but theres always a risk when putting substances into your body, especially if a doctor hasn't said it's okay.
I know it is, I'm well aware of all the risks, and there's more chance of me getting seriously ill then anything else. But I feel like I'm being forced between this and, well, an edge of a cliff. I don't see myself turning away from the site that allegedly sells it, but my original topic that got deleted was just to see if anyone else had done it in the past, since, it's from a respectable trans gender site (transgenderzone) I feel as if.. I just wanted some clarity, I don't think anyone is going to be able to talk me out of this, and from what I know Testosterone is a form of steroid so it's not illegal to be in possession of it. I feel as if I've found a ray of light but, no one seems to have any answers for me.
Title: Re: ...Ok, now that was just mean, Susan.
Post by: Scotty72 on July 13, 2010, 02:02:54 PM
It's most likely rat poison.

Along with being a waste of money.

Plus the legal issues.

Not that I am admitting to anything...  :-X, but just trust me it never works out.

Besides, you won't find information on illegal gear here, and complaining about it wont change that.
Title: Re: ...Ok, now that was just mean, Susan.
Post by: jaspeer on July 13, 2010, 02:03:28 PM
Quote from: insanitylives on July 13, 2010, 01:48:30 PM
Try lauras playground.
there's a word sensor and you'll probably still get an attitude about self-medicating as a teen(i assume?)

there's a reason T is controled

and it doesn't seem you're in the right mind to be making decisions right now, just because you seem a bit ..off. Not sure.
Ok I just signed up there, I went to the Substance Abuse section, I think that'll be the correct subject area till I'm told otherwise. And I do know that it's controlled for a reason, but I just really feel as if my days are getting more and more hectic with looking in the mirror. I'm Probably over-reacting, it might just be a spur of depression that's sinking on me these last few months, but.. I want to be able to just, get some views I guess.
Title: Re: ...Ok, now that was just mean, Susan.
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 13, 2010, 02:10:28 PM
Don't feel like that! If you are underage just transition without T. It seems like most ftms here are without T so far and they look great! Maybe look into getting into therapy, unless your parents won't allow it. And if they don't you may have to wait until 18. But please do not self medicate! I saw a girl on youtube who did it for a few months before she got her prescriptions and she said the real deal was far better, more potent and gave her real results. It's worth the wait.
Title: Re: ...Ok, now that was just mean, Susan.
Post by: Rosa on July 13, 2010, 02:12:16 PM
Testosterone is a controlled substance.  It is illegal to obtain it without a valid prescription.  It is also a powerful hormone that can both create irreversible changes in your body and can have side effects, which is why it is safer to get testosterone with a doctor's script and to stay under a doctor's care while taking it.

If you are feeling that you either need testosterone or you are going to hurt yourself (not sure if your "jumping off a cliff" remark was figurative or literal), I think it would be really beneficial for you to get some counseling.  A counselor specializing in gender issues can help you traverse the various stages necessary to begin hormone replacement therapy.

All that said, I am new here as well but my experience has been that so far the majority of folks here seem very nice and helpful.  Like any forum though, there are rules that we must follow. 

Best wishes on your journey  :)  (hope you stick around)
Title: Re: ...Ok, now that was just mean, Susan.
Post by: Osiris on July 13, 2010, 02:14:08 PM
If you hve issues with moderation action taken email susan directly as per the rules- https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,2.0.htm (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,2.0.htm)

Quote2. Any attempts to stage protests, dispute the site policy, the TOS/rules, or actions of the staff; in the public areas of this site will not be tolerated and will result in your removal. If you have issues I suggest you contact susan@susans.org and not bring your issues into the public spaces on this website. For the proper way to raise issues see term #20 below.

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20. The staff of this site exist to provide support to our members and visitors and to provide a safe environment by enforcing the TOS and rules of this web site and chat server. If you disagree with their actions or in regards to a specific situation feel free to contact Susan at her email address susan@susans.org with the details of the situation. She will review your complaint and take any corrective action that may be required by the situation. All user complaints and issues are taken seriously and investigated thoroughly.

Also see our rules on HRT discussion-
Quote8. The discussion of hormone replacement therapy(HRT) and it's medications are permitted, with the following limitations:

      A. Advocating for or against a specific medication or combinations of medications for personal gain is strictly prohibited.
      B. Discussing the means to acquire HRT medications without a prescription, and self medication without a doctors care is prohibited.
      C. Discussing dosages is strongly discouraged to prevent information obtained on this site from being used to self medicate.


We can not in good conscience condone the self administering of these medications. Not only may self medication be illegal, but HRT medications can cause serious health problems, and many have the potential for life-threatening side effects that can only be detected and prevented with proper medical supervision.

If you have any further issues you wish to discuss email susan directly at the email above.