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Title: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Everyone on July 14, 2010, 03:03:21 PM
what makes someone have 'woman hands' or 'man hands'? I heard this thing about if your hand takes up your entire face, it's manly, but is that really true? My hand is bigger than my face, but I don't think I really have manly hands unfortunately lol I still don't really know how to tell if you have manly or feminine hands.

Edit: I have man hands apparently =) except they aren't hairy
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Lucian on July 14, 2010, 03:17:59 PM
I'm not completely sure, put I think they have proportionally wider hands (or maybe just larger in general), and definitely have longer fingers.... yeah, i think their hands tend to be larger overall.  I've done a number of hand comparisons with guy friends and their fingers are always a bit longer, and hands are wider than mine.  (My fingers are on the longer end too).
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: DavisJ86 on July 14, 2010, 03:23:02 PM
I feel like no hand can be particular in appearing male or female. Sure structure wise there's probably difference, but just based on appearence, it can vary. Some guys have pretty hands and some girls have manly looking hands. Mine vary from sometimes looking manly to being pretty ambiguous. Never girly. And I'm sure the activities in your day to day that could help mold that appearence. Like if you work with your hands all day, you're gonna have rougher hands than somone who sits at a desk all day.

Idk...that's my .02
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: tekla on July 14, 2010, 03:32:46 PM
"womans hands"  as defined by this:
http://www.bigmustard.co.uk/files/image/madeleine-jones-hands-1-2en0.jpg (http://www.bigmustard.co.uk/files/image/madeleine-jones-hands-1-2en0.jpg)
'man hands' as defined by this:
http://www.bigmustard.co.uk/files/image/chris-poole-hands-web-1-2en0.jpg (http://www.bigmustard.co.uk/files/image/chris-poole-hands-web-1-2en0.jpg)

It seems that women have narrower palms, making the hands themselves look longer and thinner.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: emil on July 14, 2010, 03:36:12 PM
i have regular to larger hands for a girl my height but people seeing me as a guy always point out my soft and tiny "baby hands"....on the other hand most of my boyfriends had hands not much larger than mine...but with a lot more veins and generally not looking as "gracefully built" ;) i have a scar on my right hand, and i feel like that hand looks so much more masculine :D
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: gilligan on July 14, 2010, 03:52:35 PM
I think that although men have bigger hands in general, women tend to have longer fingers in proportion to their palm, although that doesn't seem like the consensus around here.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: tekla on July 14, 2010, 03:55:52 PM
It's exactly what the pictures show.  But there is a high doubt factor for photography round these parts.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Nygeel on July 14, 2010, 04:33:26 PM
I think a lot of it has to do with the skin texture and digit ratios.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Wolf on July 14, 2010, 05:27:06 PM
I have horrendously small hands, terrible as i am a musician. They are my best asset but i really wish they were bigger D:

The biggest difference i seem to notice personally, is guys tend to have more veiny hands i.e. they poke out more than women's do, plus rougher and thicker/ more muscle, not necessarily longer. And tend to be clammy!

On a side note, i wear a ring on each finger, started as one then... i just got more... They're all pretty hench imo, kind of metaller or what have you, nothing dainty. I mean i generally look like that - wrist bands and stuff, but since coming out as FTM some people have said they think i should take them off because it's 'not manly' or something. I;m never going to take them off, because its like part of me (plus they are useful for many things other than wearing, i know that sounds odd and i don't mean it in a kinky way rofl), but what do yall think? personally i have never see women wear many rings and usually more dainty (mine are all more than 1cm thick and silver), and more often see blokes wear tonnes of kickass blingage.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: notyouraverageguy on July 14, 2010, 05:55:12 PM
On average,
Man: rough, rigid, prominent knuckles, veiny, boney, long fingers, hairy
Woman: soft, no knuckles, chubby, hairless, small

Because most guys have less body fat compared to girls, their bones are more defined as well as their muscles.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: tekla on July 14, 2010, 07:15:34 PM
They are also much more likely over time to have to really work with their hands, that makes no small difference either.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: glendagladwitch on July 14, 2010, 08:23:03 PM
Men have hairier palms.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Silver on July 15, 2010, 01:12:07 AM
Quote from: glendagladwitch on July 14, 2010, 08:23:03 PM
Men have hairier palms.

Lol.

And man hands are bigger (especially thicker) and the bony prominences seem, well, more prominent lol. Fingernails are tougher too, but most aren't likely to pay that much attention.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 15, 2010, 01:31:31 AM
to me manly hands are longer wider and thicker. womanly hands are small and dainty. But it's different. Rihanna has huge ass hands.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Michael Joseph on July 15, 2010, 02:02:45 AM
I was always told I had big hands "for a girl", so i just assumed boys had larger hands in general.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Myself on July 15, 2010, 04:02:16 AM
Usually men hands are indeed bigger (longer+wider), hairy, and shows more veins and muscles, knuckles might show too.

Additionally: longer ring ring finger compared to index finger by quite a bit.

All of the above is MOSTLY and is VERY USUALLY there but... not always at all! (except for hairy maybe :P)

Things which change on hormones (all change both ways): Hairy, veins and muscles.. knuckles could show more because of muscles increasing and body fat decreasing but.. most men don't have it anyways.

Things which don't change are done before birth: Digit ratio (but it also overlaps as we saw in another thread already, so it seems to be correct about 90% the time, maybe less)

Things which will change if done before growth is sealed: Hands size overall, which again, people are sometimes lucky as we seen in other threads.

These are the sums of differences taking the monkey as the subject, to get the female just reverse from the monke..umm..man.

Edit: Even after growth size can change but rarely more than a cm (half inch) due to the tendons and muscles changing.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 15, 2010, 04:16:39 AM
They seem to. I've seen and heard people comment on how big a girls hands or how small a boys hands are but never the other way really. But either way I don't think it's something that people will see and be like omg trans!
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Myself on July 15, 2010, 04:22:49 AM
Quote from: andthenwekisss on July 15, 2010, 04:16:39 AM
They seem to. I've seen and heard people comment on how big a girls hands or how small a boys hands are but never the other way really. But either way I don't think it's something that people will see and be like omg trans!

I doubt you need to worry, starting at 19 you might still have normal sized girls hands :) I know I did and therefore still do. Many girls have much bigger hands than mine.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 15, 2010, 04:28:12 AM
Quote from: Myself on July 15, 2010, 04:22:49 AM
I doubt you need to worry, starting at 19 you might still have normal sized girls hands :) I know I did and therefore still do. Many girls have much bigger hands than mine.

Nah I'm not worried about my hands. They are pretty small, as a boy I thought they were too small haha. I got my moms small thick stubby hands =/ But I like them now. As much as I would like my own hands I suppose haha
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on July 15, 2010, 12:01:31 PM
I've always been told I have long fingers. I do. And bony hands and knuckles and veiny arms and hands. It always made me happy that they weren't tiny. My hands are larger than most girls I compare with and about the same if not larger than other guys.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 15, 2010, 12:02:40 PM
Quote from: zombiesarepeaceful on July 15, 2010, 12:01:31 PM
I've always been told I have long fingers. I do. And bony hands and knuckles and veiny arms and hands. It always made me happy that they weren't tiny. My hands are larger than most girls I compare with and about the same if not larger than other guys.

Sounds very hot! :)
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: elvistears on July 15, 2010, 06:16:10 PM
I have small hands, but I'm short and stuff so it makes sense.  However, despite being small, I don't think they look girly.  They've got sticky out veins, are crinkled and rough and I've got big knuckles.  I used to do piano and show off to my teacher how my fingers were double jointed and she'd tell me not to click them around or I would get manly knuckles.  Seems like she was right!  I've been pretty rough with my hands.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: kyril on July 16, 2010, 02:39:44 AM
I have tiny hands but they're male shaped: comparatively wide palm and short blunt fingers. I had more than one person tell me I have "man hands" and be completely shocked when I held mine up to theirs and showed how tiny they really are.

It also helps (or doesn't, depending on which way I'm presenting) that I have rough skin, blunted fingertips, calluses and scars because I spent the better part of a decade working with my hands. And I just generally have big protruding veins. Al of those are big "male hands" signifiers.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Cindy on July 16, 2010, 04:43:03 AM
You can always try the "OJ" test.
Go to a shop and try on boy gloves and girl gloves. Ok doesn't mean much but it doesn't mean much anyway. BTW I wear girl gloves 'cos boy gloves are too big. And how do you tell the sex of a pair of gloves - leave it with you.
:laugh:

Cindy
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: lilacwoman on July 16, 2010, 05:06:48 AM
Quote from: zombiesarepeaceful on July 15, 2010, 12:01:31 PM

hands on MtFs like me are a dead giveaway and we wish we could have slim pretty ones. 
What makes mine worse is that some days for on reason at all and despite me using lots of moisturiser they do look dry skinned...I can minimise mine in summer by wearing short sleeve tops and a slim bracelet...while in winter thick jackets can minimise them a bit too...but I'm always conscious of them being male.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: kyril on July 16, 2010, 12:25:06 PM
Quote from: CindyJames on July 16, 2010, 04:43:03 AM
You can always try the "OJ" test.
Go to a shop and try on boy gloves and girl gloves. Ok doesn't mean much but it doesn't mean much anyway. BTW I wear girl gloves 'cos boy gloves are too big. And how do you tell the sex of a pair of gloves - leave it with you.
:laugh:

Cindy
That one doesn't work for me - neither one fits :( The women's gloves have fingers almost half an inch too long, and the men's gloves...well, I can fit my entire hand in the palm area almost. I wear children's. Apparently my hands are perfectly normal for a 13-year-old boy...just like my feet...and my shoulders and arms...and everything but my butt :(
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: YellowDaisy on July 16, 2010, 12:31:29 PM
"man hands" are bigger than woman's hands. very prominent knuckles, veiny, big fingers, and thicker. my dad has very manly hands.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Britney♥Bieber on July 16, 2010, 12:40:32 PM
Quote from: lilacwoman on July 16, 2010, 05:06:48 AM
hands on MtFs like me are a dead giveaway and we wish we could have slim pretty ones. 
What makes mine worse is that some days for on reason at all and despite me using lots of moisturiser they do look dry skinned...I can minimise mine in summer by wearing short sleeve tops and a slim bracelet...while in winter thick jackets can minimise them a bit too...but I'm always conscious of them being male.

I don't think they are dead giveaways. I'm mtf and my hands are almost identical to my moms. She has wide hands and feet and I got her feet too lol. Only thing different is she has one of those toe thumbs. I don't though lol
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: lilacwoman on July 16, 2010, 02:39:28 PM
no one is going to look at your thumbs when you have a pretty face like that!  >:(
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Everyone on July 16, 2010, 03:16:00 PM
How old are you Kyril?
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: kyril on July 16, 2010, 07:06:47 PM
Quote from: ZomZom on July 16, 2010, 03:16:00 PM
How old are you Kyril?
27.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Everyone on July 16, 2010, 08:31:50 PM
Quote from: kyril on July 16, 2010, 07:06:47 PM
27.

oh wow you look younger than that
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Myself on July 16, 2010, 10:33:33 PM
Quote from: perlita85 on July 16, 2010, 08:46:17 PM
I stand corected; will dig out the paper tomorrow

I already wrote about digit ratio in this post.. females index is longer/same/sometimes-tiny-bit-shorter, male ring is simply significantly longer.

So in females: about 1. in males: less than 1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digit_ratio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digit_ratio)

Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: cynthialee on July 16, 2010, 10:37:38 PM
Some of the most fem GG's I know have clasicly male hands and the reverse can be said of some natal males.
Same with feet, shoulders and hips.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: nolife on July 17, 2010, 10:02:54 AM
I don't know about the hands but fingerwise, I heard once that if the ring finger is longer than the index, it was man's. If it was smaller than the index than it was a woman's....I don't know how true this is let alone where this info even came from.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Lachlann on July 17, 2010, 02:01:18 PM
Quote from: nolife on July 17, 2010, 10:02:54 AM
I don't know about the hands but fingerwise, I heard once that if the ring finger is longer than the index, it was man's. If it was smaller than the index than it was a woman's....I don't know how true this is let alone where this info even came from.
It has more to do with the amount of testosterone you receive in the womb. My ring finger is longer than my index finger.

They also say that some lesbians tend to have longer ring fingers and some gay men have equal index and ring fingers.

It's not a legit way of determining sex, but it would be considered 'masculine'.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Lachlann on July 17, 2010, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: Kvall on July 17, 2010, 03:15:04 PM
The lesbian part is true, but not the gay male part. On average gay men have more masculine ratios than straight men.
That's quite interesting.
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Silver on July 17, 2010, 03:48:25 PM
From what I've read, gay men can have higher or lower ratios than straight men. Either way, they tend to not be "normal."
Title: Re: what is the differance between man hands and woman hands?
Post by: Dylan Michael on July 18, 2010, 09:58:47 PM
I think man hands are usually big and hairy lol and women hands are smaller?