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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: kisschittybangbang on July 26, 2010, 02:19:26 AM

Title: interesting T fact...
Post by: kisschittybangbang on July 26, 2010, 02:19:26 AM
"The length of your ring finger in comparison to your index finger indicates the amount of testosterone you were exposed to as a fetus. Longer ring fingers, more testosterone."

I thought it was interesting. Any thoughts boys?
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: Lachlann on July 26, 2010, 02:36:23 AM
My ring fingers have always been longer than my index fingers.

I've heard of this before, but I don't really pay much attention to it. I'm not sure it's an indication of being trans(not saying you're claiming that) and it's often something that is ignored compared to other features on the body. I've seen this go around on art boards, asking if taking digit ratio in account is important, and the general consensus is that it's not something that's really noticed or recognized.

I suppose to an FTM, they might take it with some pride, though.
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: harlee on July 26, 2010, 02:49:24 AM
I didnt know that :D
Both my ring fingers are noticeably, when you look closely, shorter than my index fingers however...daaayum! :P
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: M.Grimm on July 26, 2010, 02:53:51 AM
My ring fingers are noticeably, significantly longer than my index fingers. I do take some pride in that now, but when I was still in denial and read about digit ratio I would hide my hands because I was afraid people would notice it and know.
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: Vin on July 26, 2010, 03:38:29 AM
My ring fingers are slightly longer than my index, you can see it more on my right hand than my left though.
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Post by: emil on July 26, 2010, 03:45:23 AM
exact same length. same goes for my brother though :D
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Post by: Ryan on July 26, 2010, 07:22:02 AM
My ring finger is quite a bit longer on my left hand, but shorter on my right hand. What does that mean? :P
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: pebbles on July 26, 2010, 07:29:48 AM
Mine is a perfect 1:1 ratio on one hand and my index finger is slightly longer on the other. The varience dosen't mean anything the measure extremely crude, Although it might indicate more T on side of your body.

The ring index finger thing very bluntly measures of how well Testosterone is signaled in your bodies tissues or how much you were exposed to Long ring finger means a highly efficient Androgen receptor or high dose of T while in the womb a short one or longer index finger means impaired signal T signaling possibly due to a damaged AR gene, or a lack of T exposure before birth.
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: Greg on July 26, 2010, 08:16:07 AM
Quote from: Ryan on July 26, 2010, 07:22:02 AM
My ring finger is quite a bit longer on my left hand, but shorter on my right hand. What does that mean? :P

Your left side is more masculine than the right? :laugh:
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: J Dot on July 26, 2010, 08:45:45 AM
My rights a bit shorter and the left's about the same, maybe longer
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: Lex on July 26, 2010, 10:57:34 AM
Yeah, and they also say on The L Word that if your ring finger is longer than your index (Or something along those lines), that you're a lesbian. *shrug*

I don't pay much attention to it.
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: cynthialee on July 26, 2010, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: Lex on July 26, 2010, 10:57:34 AM
Yeah, and they also say on The L Word that if your ring finger is longer than your index (Or something along those lines), that you're a lesbian. *shrug*

I don't pay much attention to it.
I should tell my cisgender cissexual home healthcare worker that due to her typically male hands she is probably a lesbian and needs to find a girlfriend......lol

It is a neat observation but finger length is not evidence of trans or gay.
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: Lachlann on July 26, 2010, 11:08:05 AM
It seems more to be a correlation than an outright fact.
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Post by: SnailPace on July 26, 2010, 11:36:13 AM
Both of my ring fingers are noticeably longer.  However, so are the ring fingers of my cis-girl friend.

Something else interesting, both of our boyfriends have more comparable ring/index finger ratios than us.  Who knows?  This theory doesn't seem to hold true in our situation.

(or maybe all of my friends are secretly trans and/or gay, lol)
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: insanitylives on July 26, 2010, 06:13:24 PM
About the same.
Left hand is longer, right hand is shorter.

(Note: I'm lopsided, and my entire left side is about half an inch bigger for some reason)
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: Shang on July 26, 2010, 06:16:30 PM
I heard a different reason for the length, but I can't remember it.

Both of my ring fingers are both longer than my index fingers but barely (sorry, I'm slow today and forgot my fingers).  Kind of makes sense...my sister's got ring fingers that are the same size as her index fingers and she's more feminine looking than me (nice round face, big lips, round eyes, etc.)
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: SnailPace on July 26, 2010, 06:17:43 PM
I thought we were measuring against pointer finger, are we not?
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Post by: Tad on July 26, 2010, 07:40:11 PM
interesting notion.. never really believe this stuff but...
both my ring fingers are 1/2 inch longer then the index.
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: Berren on July 27, 2010, 11:09:36 AM
I read this a while ago on the BBC website (I think) and I was directed to another article about "Womb memory". It was pretty interesting, I'll have to find it again.
But both my ring fingers are longer than my index.
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Post by: Elijah3291 on July 27, 2010, 11:48:11 PM
mine are almost equal in length.. and if it was really really measured my ring finger would probably be a millimeter longer.. you really cant tell.
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Post by: jmaxley on July 28, 2010, 12:21:23 AM
Mine are about equal.
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: Dante on July 28, 2010, 02:22:08 AM
My ring fingers are about a quarter of an inch longer than my index fingers. I read about this awhile back (before I knew) and I always thought it was weird.
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: Asfsd4214 on July 28, 2010, 02:31:18 AM
I did a poll thread about this a while back.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,71233.msg485676.html#msg485676 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,71233.msg485676.html#msg485676)

FTM's were extremely one sided to longer ring fingers... MTF's were pretty split.
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: Papillon on July 29, 2010, 07:39:46 AM
I'm not aware of this ever having been applied to FTMs.  It has certainly been applied to predict sexual orientation and to MTFs (Schneider HJ, Pickel J, Stalla GK (February 2006). "Typical female 2nd-4th finger length (2D:4D) ratios in male-to-female transsexuals-possible implications for prenatal androgen exposure". Psychoneuroendocrinology 31 (2): 265–9) and seems to hold.

And the right hand appears to be more responsive than the left hand, which might explain your situation, Vin.
Title: Re: interesting T fact...
Post by: kisschittybangbang on July 29, 2010, 06:29:03 PM
Quote from: Ashley4214 on July 28, 2010, 02:31:18 AM
I did a poll thread about this a while back.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,71233.msg485676.html#msg485676 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,71233.msg485676.html#msg485676)

FTM's were extremely one sided to longer ring fingers... MTF's were pretty split.

Ashley. That's really awesome! Great to have some statistics next to the theory.


@Kvall: That's more what I was getting at. I know that my Natural T levels suck. Hell even my E levels are screwy, but to have some type of indicator of how much I had in the womb is interesting. I figured alot of guys on here wanted to at least try it out if they hadn't heard oF IT. The whole "I wonder how much T I've already got" thing :D