Ok So this Might be a ridiculous question but...
Is it possible to make your rib cage smaller? or has anyone tried any techniques such as corsets that they can recommend?
I've always had a hatred for my ribcage and As i Am not terrible endowed in the breast (but I'm comfortable with the size) and have some hip gain since HTR my bulky rectangular ribcage dominates my body.
Jocelyn
Quote from: JocelynFreiky on July 29, 2010, 11:40:48 AM
Ok So this Might be a ridiculous question but...
Is it possible to make your rib cage smaller? or has anyone tried any techniques such as corsets that they can recommend?
I've always had a hatred for my ribcage and As i Am not terrible endowed in the breast (but I'm comfortable with the size) and have some hip gain since HTR my bulky rectangular ribcage dominates my body.
Jocelyn
yes it is possible i went from a 38 to a 34 and my ribs packed in a bit more, but it is time consuming and painful, so its not for everyone. Obviously to get the lower ribs you use a corset and tightlace (double lace and get that sucker as tight as you can), then you use belts below the breast, you cannot bind your developing breasts, thats not good, so the best you can do is below them. Every night i used 3 belts to get all the sections i wanted and tied them as tight as i could without really causing too much breathing problems, basically exhale, put on belt inhale, if you feel a little pain ok, if its too much loosen to one more notch. It wont feel comfortable trust me, but it works over time, i wore it mostly in my sleep so 8 hours a day. My ribs look a lot better then when i started and as your breasts fill out your shape will be even better.
Quote from: Izumi on July 29, 2010, 12:02:16 PM
yes it is possible i went from a 38 to a 34 and my ribs packed in a bit more, but it is time consuming and painful, so its not for everyone. Obviously to get the lower ribs you use a corset and tightlace (double lace and get that sucker as tight as you can), then you use belts below the breast, you cannot bind your developing breasts, thats not good, so the best you can do is below them. Every night i used 3 belts to get all the sections i wanted and tied them as tight as i could without really causing too much breathing problems, basically exhale, put on belt inhale, if you feel a little pain ok, if its too much loosen to one more notch. It wont feel comfortable trust me, but it works over time, i wore it mostly in my sleep so 8 hours a day. My ribs look a lot better then when i started and as your breasts fill out your shape will be even better.
THANK YOU IZUMI!
I definitely am interested in starting this ritual.
What Kind of corest/where would i get such a corset?
Quote from: JocelynFreiky on July 29, 2010, 12:14:49 PM
THANK YOU IZUMI!
I definitely am interested in starting this ritual.
What Kind of corest/where would i get such a corset?
Best place for me was fredricks of hollywood, but they make corsets for binding for online order, but i preferred to go in and see how it fit, also as i got smaller i needed smaller corsets. So i went to the local fredricks for it. Trying on lingerie in general was fun too ^_^b. I use two things actually, since binding really tight irritates the skin i purchased one corset that covers the breasts down to my pelvic area, then i got a another corset for my waist. I put on the first one to generally lightly bind my body (dont tight lace) and then i put the waist one on top of that one, then you dont get your skin irritated and its not as uncomfortable plus it looks nice, i can wear stockings and stuff and my fiance thinks its hot, hell he thinks its awesome i wear sexy lingerie to bed every night lol. Then i do the belt binding. since the corset covers my breasts the belts dont dig into my skin. Make sure you get a corset with metal ribs though! It can be flexible metal but use metal it helps maintain shape. For the waist one, non mental is ok, just cloth since your only binding your waist.
Here is what my body used to look like:
http://www.hawaiibd.com/10.jpg (http://www.hawaiibd.com/10.jpg)
here is what it looks like now after 1.5 years of doing that stuff:
http://www.hawaiibd.com/A2.jpg (http://www.hawaiibd.com/A2.jpg)
http://www.hawaiibd.com/A1.jpg (http://www.hawaiibd.com/A1.jpg)
Had the same problem and only had a small "B" so got an augment to a full "D" now don't have the problem and too old to start strapping ribs in.Augmentation only had pain for a couple of weeks binding is long term pain!!
Quote from: Izumi on July 29, 2010, 12:25:41 PM
Best place for me was fredricks of hollywood, but they make corsets for binding for online order, but i preferred to go in and see how it fit, also as i got smaller i needed smaller corsets. So i went to the local fredricks for it. Trying on lingerie in general was fun too ^_^b. I use two things actually, since binding really tight irritates the skin i purchased one corset that covers the breasts down to my pelvic area, then i got a another corset for my waist. I put on the first one to generally lightly bind my body (dont tight lace) and then i put the waist one on top of that one, then you dont get your skin irritated and its not as uncomfortable plus it looks nice, i can wear stockings and stuff and my fiance thinks its hot, hell he thinks its awesome i wear sexy lingerie to bed every night lol. Then i do the belt binding. since the corset covers my breasts the belts dont dig into my skin. Make sure you get a corset with metal ribs though! It can be flexible metal but use metal it helps maintain shape. For the waist one, non mental is ok, just cloth since your only binding your waist.
Here is what my body used to look like:
http://www.hawaiibd.com/10.jpg (http://www.hawaiibd.com/10.jpg)
here is what it looks like now after 1.5 years of doing that stuff:
http://www.hawaiibd.com/A2.jpg (http://www.hawaiibd.com/A2.jpg)
http://www.hawaiibd.com/A1.jpg (http://www.hawaiibd.com/A1.jpg)
DAMN GIRL!!!!!! WORK IT!!!!
You Look So fabulous!!!
Quote from: JocelynFreiky on July 29, 2010, 01:24:40 PM
DAMN GIRL!!!!!! WORK IT!!!!
You Look So fabulous!!!
Ty thats very kind, I love your avatar picture if thats you, you look great and young, i am jealous.
I am quite amazed at the transformations I've seen on this site. You all look so beautiful, it gives me hope!
In regards to tightlacing, my wife was into it for a while, and I have always wanted to do it, so I've done quite a bit of digging on the subject. If you google tightlacing I'm sure you'll find a plethora of information, but the following are some points I recall from my reading many moons ago. (and by moons I means YEARS so please do not take the following as pure fact!)
- Although you can tightlace with a standard (well, at minimum steel boned) corset, many are not meant to take the strain. In fact, even steel boning is often a woven steel, which is very malleable. High quality tightlacing corsets often use a more rigid/solid piece of steel, and are usually made to order. This means a good tightlacing corset usually starts at over 200. A less expensive off the rack corset usually can make a good starter corset though.
- There are corset liners you can buy to help avoid the chafing. Moisturizing before putting it on also helps.
- You can get an underbust tightlacing corset, so you don't have to worry about your boobs or using a belt.
- If you are just training the waist, you can start with a heavy duty belt until you can get an appropriate corset.
- It can take a year or two to achieve permanent results. Wearing 23/7 speeds this up a bit - I say 23 because you should exercise daily without the corset to keep your muscles from atrophying.
I'm sure there are many more important points I am neglecting, and as mentioned my memory may not be 100%, but hopefully this helps somewhat. I'm planning on tightlacing once I start HRT, and am happy to hear it really works. Thanks for the pics Izumi!
Let us know how it goes!
-Gwen
Quote from: Izumi on July 29, 2010, 01:27:12 PM
Ty thats very kind, I love your avatar picture if thats you, you look great and young, i am jealous.
Notta Problem :)
Awww shucks Thank ya! Yes That is me!
Girrrrrl I feel the same way! you're absolutely beautiful Ms. Izumi!
and besides you look younger than me Lovely! :P
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Quote from: Gwenhyvar on July 30, 2010, 08:58:47 AM
I am quite amazed at the transformations I've seen on this site. You all look so beautiful, it gives me hope!
In regards to tightlacing, my wife was into it for a while, and I have always wanted to do it, so I've done quite a bit of digging on the subject. If you google tightlacing I'm sure you'll find a plethora of information, but the following are some points I recall from my reading many moons ago. (and by moons I means YEARS so please do not take the following as pure fact!)
- Although you can tightlace with a standard (well, at minimum steel boned) corset, many are not meant to take the strain. In fact, even steel boning is often a woven steel, which is very malleable. High quality tightlacing corsets often use a more rigid/solid piece of steel, and are usually made to order. This means a good tightlacing corset usually starts at over 200. A less expensive off the rack corset usually can make a good starter corset though.
- There are corset liners you can buy to help avoid the chafing. Moisturizing before putting it on also helps.
- You can get an underbust tightlacing corset, so you don't have to worry about your boobs or using a belt.
- If you are just training the waist, you can start with a heavy duty belt until you can get an appropriate corset.
- It can take a year or two to achieve permanent results. Wearing 23/7 speeds this up a bit - I say 23 because you should exercise daily without the corset to keep your muscles from atrophying.
I'm sure there are many more important points I am neglecting, and as mentioned my memory may not be 100%, but hopefully this helps somewhat. I'm planning on tightlacing once I start HRT, and am happy to hear it really works. Thanks for the pics Izumi!
Let us know how it goes!
-Gwen
THANKS GWEN!!! That was some great information!!
when a tiny waist was de rigeur for Victorian ladies they were wont to swoon and faint - turns out they were severely restricting their innards...the kidney of these ladies used to have a definite step in it to correspond to the top of the boned corset...
while I'd love a small waist I doun't want to start having conniptions and being forced to inhale smelling salts.
Quote from: Izumi on July 29, 2010, 12:25:41 PM
Here is what my body used to look like:
http://www.hawaiibd.com/10.jpg (http://www.hawaiibd.com/10.jpg)
here is what it looks like now after 1.5 years of doing that stuff:
http://www.hawaiibd.com/A2.jpg (http://www.hawaiibd.com/A2.jpg)
http://www.hawaiibd.com/A1.jpg (http://www.hawaiibd.com/A1.jpg)
Izumi, I showed your before/after pictures to my wife because you looked very much like I do right now. Your transformation to me is stunning and inspirational. I hope I can get similar results. The wife actually mentioned that if I end up looking as good as you, she might consider going lesbian! :D
Megan Dee
Quote from: mhtspan on July 30, 2010, 01:39:31 PM
Izumi, I showed your before/after pictures to my wife because you looked very much like I do right now. Your transformation to me is stunning and inspirational. I hope I can get similar results. The wife actually mentioned that if I end up looking as good as you, she might consider going lesbian! :D
Megan Dee
No on is more surprised then me, i didnt think i would turn out anywhere near where i am now, i just promised myself i would do anything and everything i could to be the woman i wanted to become, that way at least if i failed it wouldnt have been for lack of trying, and i could always do surgery after to fix some things.
So 2 years ago i started working out 5 days a week, then toned it down to 3-4, used corsets at night and tightlaced, laser/electrolysis, 6 months later went on hormones, never missed a shot or a pill (if i couldnt get the shot, had pills as backup), waxing, hair, makeup, cloths, and diet. Never been through so much struggle in all my life, but now i am nearing the end, and everyday the disforia gets less and less, i am sure after my surgery next july i will finally be rid of it.
Quote from: Izumi on July 30, 2010, 07:21:22 PM
No on is more surprised then me, i didnt think i would turn out anywhere near where i am now, i just promised myself i would do anything and everything i could to be the woman i wanted to become, that way at least if i failed it wouldnt have been for lack of trying, and i could always do surgery after to fix some things.
So 2 years ago i started working out 5 days a week, then toned it down to 3-4, used corsets at night and tightlaced, laser/electrolysis, 6 months later went on hormones, never missed a shot or a pill (if i couldnt get the shot, had pills as backup), waxing, hair, makeup, cloths, and diet. Never been through so much struggle in all my life, but now i am nearing the end, and everyday the disforia gets less and less, i am sure after my surgery next july i will finally be rid of it.
I guess there's hope for me then, I'm pre hrt and I've lost 13 pounds and my under bust is now 32" inches and I want to get down to 30, so hopefully with muscle loss and a good corset I'll get there.
Hey, Izumi, my rib cage is currently at approximately 37" and I haven't started HRT yet...
Is there any chance that tighlacing can help me to get a smaller torso? I just turned 18 a couple of days ago, my age might help :P
I am super interested in this subject as well. I am very self-conscious about my upper chest size. When I was an adolescent, a doctor recommended all sorts of breathing exercices combined with weight training to get my rib cage bigger. He thought it was too small. Part of me was hoping that it would me feel like a man. It was the same thing with my arms. There was a lot of pressure to build muscle. Imagine a girl ever hearing that!
So now I have a 38" rib cage, which makes me angry.
Izumi, can you describe the belts you were using?
I'm also quite interested in doing the same thing. Starting with the belts....
Question is, should I start now or wait till I've lost some weight? I will get around 32" under bust in a couple of weeks/months, but getting down to 30" would be even more awesome, seeing as I still have fat/muscles to loosen up.
But since I've already started taking the mones I've grown small mounds, so measuring the actual size (that I want to know) is even harder... I seem to be 36~37" atm.
So yeah.. what kind of belts are we talking about? :O
Quote from: Iceprincess on July 31, 2010, 09:28:47 PM
Hey, Izumi, my rib cage is currently at approximately 37" and I haven't started HRT yet...
Is there any chance that tighlacing can help me to get a smaller torso? I just turned 18 a couple of days ago, my age might help :P
Age is a big factor, and yes any tightlace over time will help, your adjusting how the rib cage sets, you have to wear it a long time everyday, for me it was a minimum of 8 hours, but most say wear it all day. I couldnt but yeah all day for better results, it is not the most comfortable feeling.
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Quote from: Frances on August 01, 2010, 12:43:32 PM
I am super interested in this subject as well. I am very self-conscious about my upper chest size. When I was an adolescent, a doctor recommended all sorts of breathing exercices combined with weight training to get my rib cage bigger. He thought it was too small. Part of me was hoping that it would me feel like a man. It was the same thing with my arms. There was a lot of pressure to build muscle. Imagine a girl ever hearing that!
So now I have a 38" rib cage, which makes me angry.
Izumi, can you describe the belts you were using?
since i find that some corsets dont provide the coverage in the spots i like, i just use leather or cloth belts thicker the better, make sure they have a strong buckle too because i ruined at least 2 or 3 belts doing this, so basically a thick leather belt with a strong buckle works the best.
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Quote from: Felly on August 01, 2010, 01:28:57 PM
I'm also quite interested in doing the same thing. Starting with the belts....
Question is, should I start now or wait till I've lost some weight? I will get around 32" under bust in a couple of weeks/months, but getting down to 30" would be even more awesome, seeing as I still have fat/muscles to loosen up.
But since I've already started taking the mones I've grown small mounds, so measuring the actual size (that I want to know) is even harder... I seem to be 36~37" atm.
So yeah.. what kind of belts are we talking about? :O
Start as soon as you can, it can only help, but remember this kind of stuff isnt the healthiest thing to do to your body, after all pain is your body's way of saying your doing something not so good to it, but it does work over the long hall, i went from a 38 to a 34~ and my waist was a 32 now between 28 and 29. 1.5 years.
32" underbust is quite normal for women. Why torture yourself for more.
Perhaps, but then again my ribs are still poking out as my ribcage isn't just wide. As I started losing weight they got a lot more defined which made me look like some anorexic person while still having a ton to lose.
Oh yeah I almost forgot to tell, it's the ribs behind the breasts that are annoying me the most, so if I can compress those ribs it'll be like heaven. Now I just have to find belts with buckles that don't leave nasty marks... getting the waist/under bust under control seems to be much easier. I'll get a 32" under bust from just losing weight (fat/muscles).
I don't want to put a damper on anyone's ambitions, but this sort of thing can be incredably dangerous.
The rib cage expands to accommodate the organs it protects.
This sort of thing should never be considered for anyone much past their teens. That isn't to recommend it for teenagers. But past teens, and your bones and organs have more or less set.
Whatever you do, take it slowly. Don't try to tighten things too much. Gradual.
If you get any sort of discomfort, difficulities breathing, heart pumping, sickness or nausia, them loosen off quickly.
I somehow don't think the biggest problem will be the chest, it will be the shoulders.
I left school at 15 and 2 monthds and went into a factory working machines and lifting heavy chunks of metal that made my developing body go chunky and its still chunky but careful choice of colours and styles makes it look OK.
both my bosses are quite overweight so I look good beside them.
Quote from: spacial on August 02, 2010, 06:24:19 AM
I don't want to put a damper on anyone's ambitions, but this sort of thing can be incredably dangerous.
The rib cage expands to accommodate the organs it protects.
This sort of thing should never be considered for anyone much past their teens. That isn't to recommend it for teenagers. But past teens, and your bones and organs have more or less set.
Whatever you do, take it slowly. Don't try to tighten things too much. Gradual.
If you get any sort of discomfort, difficulities breathing, heart pumping, sickness or nausia, them loosen off quickly.
I somehow don't think the biggest problem will be the chest, it will be the shoulders.
Those are all good points which is why i tell people that pain is your body's way of telling your doing something wrong, if you feel discomfort, thats fine, your doing it right, however if you feel pain or your biology seems strange, then you got to loosen it up. Its true that your organs have set, however, prolonged binding rearranges their position even bones.
It does work, just dont kill yourself over it, and yes shoulders are the biggest pain not chest, because a nice set of breasts will balance out your chest, but you need a nice set of hips to balance out the shoulders, and there is really no way to make your hips wider unless you eat a lot and gain weight. The best thing to go for is balance, for me, size C breasts and a little bigger hips would balance my body nicely, right now i am between A and B. For someone else depending on the frame it might be different.
Quote from: LordKAT on August 02, 2010, 03:20:26 AM
32" underbust is quite normal for women. Why torture yourself for more.
I don't see tightlacing as torturing myself and I might not even need it if the I lose enough muscle on hrt.
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Quote from: Izumi on August 02, 2010, 11:24:41 AM
Those are all good points which is why i tell people that pain is your body's way of telling your doing something wrong, if you feel discomfort, thats fine, your doing it right, however if you feel pain or your biology seems strange, then you got to loosen it up. Its true that your organs have set, however, prolonged binding rearranges their position even bones.
It does work, just dont kill yourself over it, and yes shoulders are the biggest pain not chest, because a nice set of breasts will balance out your chest, but you need a nice set of hips to balance out the shoulders, and there is really no way to make your hips wider unless you eat a lot and gain weight. The best thing to go for is balance, for me, size C breasts and a little bigger hips would balance my body nicely, right now i am between A and B. For someone else depending on the frame it might be different.
How wide are your shoulders?
Hello ladies, Might I point out that the "Perfect" hourglass measurements are 36C - 24 - 36.
Quote from: Izumi and there is really no way to make your hips wider unless you eat a lot and gain weight.
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I weigh less now than ever but my hips are lovely and rounded and I have had to move up two sizes in underwear and goodness knows what size jeans I'd need if ever I decided to wear any again.
All the doors in the building I work in have glass panels that are ver good mirrors and I quite enjoy seeing my shape as I walk around.
I'm 40B-30-39 I'm very restricted in exercising due to bad knee and ankle and I refuse to try swimming until I get rid of the bulge.
Quote from: Izumi on August 02, 2010, 11:24:41 AM
Those are all good points which is why i tell people that pain is your body's way of telling your doing something wrong, if you feel discomfort, thats fine, your doing it right, however if you feel pain or your biology seems strange, then you got to loosen it up. Its true that your organs have set, however, prolonged binding rearranges their position even bones.
It does work, just dont kill yourself over it, and yes shoulders are the biggest pain not chest, because a nice set of breasts will balance out your chest, but you need a nice set of hips to balance out the shoulders, and there is really no way to make your hips wider unless you eat a lot and gain weight. The best thing to go for is balance, for me, size C breasts and a little bigger hips would balance my body nicely, right now i am between A and B. For someone else depending on the frame it might be different.
I did what you sad and used two belts and that helped me get a 29 inch waist and a 31inch underbust of course I'd have to keep doing it to keep it this way but it's a start.
Quote from: lilacwoman on August 03, 2010, 03:28:17 AM
[quote author=Izumi and there is really no way to make your hips wider unless you eat a lot and gain weight.
I weigh less now than ever but my hips are lovely and rounded and I have had to move up two sizes in underwear and goodness knows what size jeans I'd need if ever I decided to wear any again.
All the doors in the building I work in have glass panels that are ver good mirrors and I quite enjoy seeing my shape as I walk around.
I'm 40B-30-39 I'm very restricted in exercising due to bad knee and ankle and I refuse to try swimming until I get rid of the bulge.
Heh, well there is something to be said about genetics. Usually, it doesnt work out that way since male bone structure is smaller in the hips, you have to make up for it with either a build up of muscle or fat, or a combination of both, you probably have good genes so the fat is hitting the right spots. You should be happy. For me, my hips are a little small but not too bad, they are popping out more and more every month, but my butt, legs, and waist make up for it.
Last time i checked i was 36(between A&B)-28-37, so i dont have a bad shape, but i am hoping to get 36Cx26x36 as my ideal.
Either I'm blessed or not... Currently I'm 37AA-31-40. I've always had wide hips, even if I compare other relatives, and I do seem to match up my aunt pretty close, and she's a C as far as I know. These measurement are 2 days old btw.
Shoulder-width is 17".
My goal is 36B-28-38. And as far as I can see, losing wight is enough for me at least.
Quote from: Felly on August 04, 2010, 08:50:40 AM
Either I'm blessed or not... Currently I'm 37AA-31-40. I've always had wide hips, even if I compare other relatives, and I do seem to match up my aunt pretty close, and she's a C as far as I know. These measurement are 2 days old btw.
Shoulder-width is 17".
My goal is 36B-28-38. And as far as I can see, losing wight is enough for me at least.
Damn Girl.
Lucky as Hell.
Have Have little to no Ass and Tiny Hips. HRT has helped a lot but I'm Still Pretty rectangular.
My shoulders aren't that much of a problem.
I think if My Rib Cage were smaller Just a touch, it would make a huge difference
Quote from: Felly on August 04, 2010, 08:50:40 AM
Either I'm blessed or not... Currently I'm 37AA-31-40. I've always had wide hips, even if I compare other relatives, and I do seem to match up my aunt pretty close, and she's a C as far as I know. These measurement are 2 days old btw.
Shoulder-width is 17".
My goal is 36B-28-38. And as far as I can see, losing wight is enough for me at least.
This is my figure, sorry i have a lot of cloths on, but i will get a better one with less cloths later so you can see the curves better, but eh, i am jealous of your natural figure >,<.
http://www.hawaiibd.com/A8.jpg (http://www.hawaiibd.com/A8.jpg)
http://www.hawaiibd.com/A2.jpg (http://www.hawaiibd.com/A2.jpg)
Quote from: Izumi on August 04, 2010, 11:39:03 AM
This is my figure, sorry i have a lot of cloths on, but i will get a better one with less cloths later so you can see the curves better, but eh, i am jealous of your natural figure >,<.
http://www.hawaiibd.com/A8.jpg (http://www.hawaiibd.com/A8.jpg)
http://www.hawaiibd.com/A2.jpg (http://www.hawaiibd.com/A2.jpg)
VERY NICE!!
Amazing Change in your Body Izumi!!
Nice Bah-donkay-donk ;D
Quote from: JocelynFreiky on August 04, 2010, 11:41:04 AM
VERY NICE!!
Amazing Change in your Body Izumi!!
Nice Bah-donkay-donk ;D
ty thats very kind, now i have to fix my nose, my breasts, and 20 other things i hate about my appearance. I really want my breasts and hips larger, it would balance my figure more.
Quote from: Izumi on August 04, 2010, 11:44:13 AM
ty thats very kind, now i have to fix my nose, my breasts, and 20 other things i hate about my appearance. I really want my breasts and hips larger, it would balance my figure more.
Those are the exact areas I'm most frustrated about too :/
Some days i like my small boobs but i don't think they are really proportionate to my body :/
same with my hips..
That's why i do feel if my rib cage were smaller it would REALLY help.
i ordered a corset BTW :)
SUPER excited :)
Quote from: JocelynFreiky on August 04, 2010, 11:48:19 AM
Those are the exact areas I'm most frustrated about too :/
Some days i like my small boobs but i don't think they are really proportionate to my body :/
same with my hips..
That's why i do feel if my rib cage were smaller it would REALLY help.
i ordered a corset BTW :)
SUPER excited :)
Dont go too crazy with it heh, just a little at a time at most 4 inches, but its really pain if you have to move around.
Quote from: Izumi on August 04, 2010, 12:00:33 PM
Dont go too crazy with it heh, just a little at a time at most 4 inches, but its really pain if you have to move around.
Ok sounds good to me
question, after a few inches are brought it, should i continue to wear it to maintain shape? or will it stay once inches are in?
Quote from: JocelynFreiky on August 04, 2010, 12:20:28 PM
Ok sounds good to me
question, after a few inches are brought it, should i continue to wear it to maintain shape? or will it stay once inches are in?
well it depends. To get your body to stick takes a long time, probably a year of wearing it most of the day, right now i just wear it when i go to sleep and seems to be ok, but even if i dont my shape still sticks around, i just do it out of caution mainly since i dont want to lose what i got.
You look pretty good as you are. Don't get hung up too much on surgeries.
Caroline
Thank you Caroline
It's just hard to feel completely sure sometimes...
I have a rough relationship with my body and 'passability"
Hello everyone!!! sorry to join the conversation late. I found everyone's experiences helpful. I am looking forward to start weight loss and corseting.
IZUMI: May I ask you for one more favor? Could you please sum up in a paragraph or two the regimen you followed at the beginning of corseting/belting , how old were you? your detailed process? then length of time, hours per day, your current upkeep?
I did read the entire thread (everyones posts and your answers), and found you answer many of my questions, yet all are scattered.
Sorry if I'm a bother, it's just that i had never heard about this and thought corsets were not reliable and would not produce long lasting results.
Hearing from someone who has actually done it is very helpful. I hope it's possible, and truly believe this will be a great resource for all of us wanting to bring in our poky rib cages.
Quote from: Bubbly on May 09, 2011, 02:10:33 PM
Hello everyone!!! sorry to join the conversation late. I found everyone's experiences helpful. I am looking forward to start weight loss and corseting.
IZUMI: May I ask you for one more favor? Could you please sum up in a paragraph or two the regimen you followed at the beginning of corseting/belting , how old were you? your detailed process? then length of time, hours per day, your current upkeep?
I did read the entire thread (everyones posts and your answers), and found you answer many of my questions, yet all are scattered.
Sorry if I'm a bother, it's just that i had never heard about this and thought corsets were not reliable and would not produce long lasting results.
Hearing from someone who has actually done it is very helpful. I hope it's possible, and truly believe this will be a great resource for all of us wanting to bring in our poky rib cages.
Age 32, 16+ hours a day when i started for the first year. Now only when i go to bed, although i should do it longer. Used Corset from fredricks of hollywood to do my waist, and belts below the breasts to do the ribs. Corset was all day, belts came on at night or if i didnt plan on doing anything active, also combined this with diet and exercise. (would take it off to exercise 1 hour)
Quote from: Izumi on July 30, 2010, 07:21:22 PM
So 2 years ago i started working out 5 days a week, then toned it down to 3-4, used corsets at night and tightlaced, laser/electrolysis, 6 months later went on hormones, never missed a shot or a pill (if i couldnt get the shot, had pills as backup), waxing, hair, makeup, cloths, and diet. Never been through so much struggle in all my life, but now i am nearing the end, and everyday the disforia gets less and less, i am sure after my surgery next july i will finally be rid of it.
I have to ask, Izumi, how old were you when you began HRT?
You are stunning.
I may not like that my ribs are bigger than I want them to be (I hate my shoulders even more), but trying to get them smaller by forcing them that way with corset or other such device does not sound healthy at all, organs need room to breath, to function properly. There's a lot of big women in this world, can't all have slim perfect torsos. Something like this just seems to be taking things a bit too far on transitioning.
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of all these naysayers. Tightlacing, when done properly, is a healthy lifestyle and provides numerous benefits. It can alleviate and prevent all sorts of back problems, leads to good posture, and makes you taller and more confident.
For this, you need a corset that is custom fitted, which will cost a tad over $400 and if worn daily, should last a good 5 or 6 years. But you'll probably want a new one after a year anyway if you have any dedication to it as your body will adjust to it and you may like to be even smaller, at which point you'll have one to wear at night and the other to wear during the day. They should be dry cleaned unless you have a fancy washer like mine, and most dry cleaners won't touch a corset, you have to call around to the better shops.
It's an expensive undertaking.
And it requires willpower, something of which I don't have.
I've bought 4 corsets from c&s constructions through Tom Lierse, they're american affiliate and have always been well pleased.
Lacing it difficult to withstand in the summer if you live in the south as I do.
Might I start up again, yeah. I've only gone a full week at work though. Do I just lace for parties these days? Yep.
My stats: underbust 32", the corset doesn't reduce that a bit since I prefer hourglass styles to wasp waists.
Waist: probably a 29" these days, up from a 27, because I'm trying to gain weight so my titties have some fat to grow with. I used to lace down to 23.5" on a regular basis, having once been at 19" very briefly at a ren faire to show that it can be done. Nearly passed out before it could be taken off though.
Like most things in life, if it's not taken to any extremes, it's perfectly fine.
Just like everything, we each have our own ways of going about things, just sharing what I think on the matter, that's what this place is for. Afterall, aren't hormones just as dangerous (more susceptible to breast cancer, blood clots, all kinds of other stuff) and I can't wait to get back on those, same think with surgery, risk of going under as well as having complications later, and I'm all for doing that later too. By all means, live as you feel comfortable, don't let my opinions make you feel that you have to defend your choices, I'm not out to crucify anyone just because of a simple thing as wearing a corset.
Indeedy :-)
That was one of my points. Anything can be dangerous if taken too far.
If anyone here has specific questions as to the ins and outs of lacing, I have plenty of tips I can tell you.
Just ask.
Here are some to get you started:
Make sure you're vehicle has good visibility as your range of motion is restricted.
Straight-backed chairs are more comfortable to sit in.
Keep a golf tee handy to get inbetween the knot when it gets tangled.
It will be more comfortable during the day if you wear it the night prior.
But for the first two weeks of sleeping in it, don't expect to get more than two hours of sleep per night.
Do sleep in it, it's the quickest way for your body to get adjusted to it.
Wrapping the lacings around a faucet is an effective way to lean into the pull and make it tighter (lean away from the sink). I've found that the loops come off door knobs too easily.
And a biggie: be sure to hold the ends of the laces when you go potty!!
Quote from: Izumi on July 30, 2010, 07:21:22 PM
No on is more surprised then me, i didnt think i would turn out anywhere near where i am now, i just promised myself i would do anything and everything i could to be the woman i wanted to become, that way at least if i failed it wouldnt have been for lack of trying, and i could always do surgery after to fix some things.
So 2 years ago i started working out 5 days a week, then toned it down to 3-4, used corsets at night and tightlaced, laser/electrolysis, 6 months later went on hormones, never missed a shot or a pill (if i couldnt get the shot, had pills as backup), waxing, hair, makeup, cloths, and diet. Never been through so much struggle in all my life, but now i am nearing the end, and everyday the disforia gets less and less, i am sure after my surgery next july i will finally be rid of it.
I like your attitude.
Well, everyone's rib cage is their own to do what they feel is best for them, but, good grief! Woman used to bind themselves up so as to put a a heavy bondage photo shoot to shame. We stopped doing that to the point that hardly any woman even wears a heavy girdle nowdays except for errotic reasons. It seems a step or two backwards, but every woman to herself. Carry smelling salts just in case!
Susan Kay
Are there any corsets you would recommend over another?
Quote from: Rach_A on May 09, 2011, 11:37:57 PM
Are there any corsets you would recommend over another?
Don't get anything from:
Brute force leather in pennsylvania
Do order one from either:
Wasp creations
Or
C & S constructions
Don't get anything off the rack at shops such as victoria secret or wetseal unless you plan to wear it just for fun. They offer no longterm benefits.
Quote from: Rach_A on May 09, 2011, 09:38:09 PM
I have to ask, Izumi, how old were you when you began HRT?
You are stunning.
I started it at age 32.
Izumi this is nothing short of amazing and inspiring..
On an unrelated note, you look great for being 2 years in and starting at age 32.. I'm 31 and I've got some concerns that I might already be too late to start. Could I chat with you sometime?
Quote from: Izumi on May 10, 2011, 10:53:42 AM
I started it at age 32.
32? Thanks for giving me hope!
I'm 30 and looks like I'm going to beginning around the time I turn 31.
Hi all, corseting really works!!! Best quality Corsets are made in the UK and are not that expensive.
Suzy
Hi Suzy,
can you give some websites as to where to buy from? :)
Quote from: meatgrinder on May 10, 2011, 07:00:43 PM
Izumi this is nothing short of amazing and inspiring..
On an unrelated note, you look great for being 2 years in and starting at age 32.. I'm 31 and I've got some concerns that I might already be too late to start. Could I chat with you sometime?
sure you can chat with me anytime.
Izumi = Champion of the world
I'm in the UK I don't know if you have any company recommendations (looong shot I know as you're in the US just realised I am presuming that lol :))
Quote from: Lexia on May 11, 2011, 01:55:16 PM
Izumi = Champion of the world
I'm in the UK I don't know if you have any company recommendations (looong shot I know as you're in the US just realised I am presuming that lol :))
Company recommendations? if you mean for the corset, i just went to fredricks of hollywood and got one with metal ribbing and laces, its not the best corset but i dont want to tighten up like crazy... i see some pictures and ewww.. i just wanted to help shape the HRT thats all, so for me only 4 inches or so at a time, slowly i got from a 36 to a 29 and still getting smaller, and my hips are widening a bit with HRT.
I have a corset already, steel ribbed and laces too, I'll try again with that then, someone said we need a '$400 corset'. I'm not on HRT and it was leaving vertical stretches marks on me from the metal ribs, I must have been tightening it too much.
Just get a nice shape that's all I want and need.
Lexia,
C&S Constructions as I mentioned before is based in england. They're one of the premier corsettiers in the world and at $400 for all the bells and whistles and reasonably quickly turn aound time, I think it's well worth every penny (otherwise I wouldn't have purchased 4 in my past corsetting life!)
Constance and stuart, if you were wondering was c and s stood for.
Thanks for the commendation in the prior message on another topic :-)
My most rigid to date is an underbust hourglass with double busk, extra close boning, 2" stem, and with black lace overlay on royal blue satin. And a black lace string of course, it's over 14' long!
Quote from: meatgrinder on May 10, 2011, 07:00:43 PM
Izumi this is nothing short of amazing and inspiring..
On an unrelated note, you look great for being 2 years in and starting at age 32.. I'm 31 and I've got some concerns that I might already be too late to start. Could I chat with you sometime?
I started at 39 and now I'm 40. It is never too late to start living the life you were meant to have. You still have decades of life ahead of you.
i once have this same obsession and came close to begin corseting even though being small i probably have no real issues other then gg ribcage envy
however the reason i post is after having breast augmentaion and once that settled in, my torso seems really natural and just like a girls.
Its about proportion eventually i think the new breasts helps lots with that
Quote from: RabbitsOfTheWorldUnite on May 11, 2011, 08:19:44 PM
Lexia,
C&S Constructions as I mentioned before is based in england. They're one of the premier corsettiers in the world and at $400 for all the bells and whistles and reasonably quickly turn aound time, I think it's well worth every penny (otherwise I wouldn't have purchased 4 in my past corsetting life!)
Constance and stuart, if you were wondering was c and s stood for.
Thanks for the commendation in the prior message on another topic :-)
Hi Rabbits
Money is so tight (no pun intended :P) for me, the hell of saving so I can get the
discount for laser.
I've had a look here http://www.staylace.com/retail/cands/c&s.htm, (http://www.staylace.com/retail/cands/c&s.htm,) I have to give this off the peg one a go again because of money constraints, and slowly slowly I shall go :)
You are more than welcome about the commendation :)
Quote from: Melody Maia on May 12, 2011, 12:19:56 AM
I started at 39 and now I'm 40. It is never too late to start living the life you were meant to have. You still have decades of life ahead of you.
I don't plan on popping my clogs till I'm 90, so 23 or 36 I might have had more hair on my head at 23, the only time I really wish I could have given myself HRT is early teens, and maybe late teens. Regrets after that are for time lost and youth.
Hi
I was thinking about that problem and I'm pleased that I'm not alone and it can be solved
I have "almost ideal figure" 36x27x34 but but that 36 is rib cage so I look like a cartoon hero with giant chest :-\ luckily I have narrow shoulders and thin hands
What is the best way to begin with tightening?
I'm pre HRT, I will have some medical check next week according it
QuoteI somehow don't think the biggest problem will be the chest, it will be the shoulders.
I agreed. It would be pointless to reduce rib cage diameter (same with increasing breast size), if the chest diameter remains unchanged due to the shoulder width. In that case, the reduction of the neck diameter would result in more feminine look (due to more distinctive difference between the 2 areas), it always help to appear feminine by making the buttock diameter bigger by artificial mean.
Although it is a fact that you can make your butt bigger naturally ;)
Workout, a lot, follow a diet routine provided by a trainer who knows about these things and he'll help you achieve a nicer butt :P
I'm going to start a little bit of tightlacing when I'm mostly healed from my FFS. I don't want to go too extreme though, I'm 35-30-41 and would like to lose a few inches off the lower end of my ribcage (to improve the shape) and my waist.
I got my corset from Timeless Trends (http://www.timeless-trends.com/WSWrapper.jsp?mypage=StoreHome.htm). It seems to be good quality and wasn't terribly expensive (around $110 if I remember).
Regarding tightlacing itself, I was kind of curious - how do you determine how tight is just right? I tried to wear it at night a few times before and ended up taking it off after about 4 hours and throwing it across the room, but I think I probably had it a little too tight :P
I've thought of tight lacing too so I can get some shape besides fat blob. I'm wondering though if there if you have to be thin to start with less you do some sort of damage.
Quote from: Melody Maia on May 14, 2011, 10:08:21 AM
I've thought of tight lacing too so I can get some shape besides fat blob. I'm wondering though if there if you have to be thin to start with less you do some sort of damage.
You don't have to be thin to lace but a larger corset does cost more. And the mere act of lacing has never caused anyone to lose weight. These days I find lacing to be so uncomfortably hot, but then, even preHRT, I seldom laced throughout summer!