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Community Conversation => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Transsexual talk => FTM Gear => Topic started by: jmaxley on August 06, 2010, 04:52:32 PM

Title: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: jmaxley on August 06, 2010, 04:52:32 PM
I just can't seem to get the hang of using an STP.  Granted, I've only tried homemade ones.  I just don't have the money to spare right now to buy one (and then have the possibility of it not working).  So far I've tried making an STP from a turkey baster, medicine spoon, medicine dropper (the kind with the big rubber bulb on one end, looks like a miniature turkey baster), and two sizes of nasal aspirators.  The only successes I've had is with the turkey baster, holding it on the outside of my body, but it's rather bulky, even with most of the end cut off, and I still have to use toilet paper, which isn't an option at a urinal.  I'm determined to master this peeing standing up thing.  Sorry for the rant, just needed to vent.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: Sly on August 06, 2010, 05:04:11 PM
Have you tried a rolled-up coffee can lid or something similar?
That's worked pretty well for me.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: emil on August 06, 2010, 05:13:30 PM
tried urinella? it's not really an option for urinals in my opinion, but worked once i had managed to pee standing up using the urinella, i had no problems switchig to the willy boy and then the travelmate+ packer

http://www.comiczeichnerin.de/wp-content/gallery/entdeckungen/urinella-bastel.jpg (http://www.comiczeichnerin.de/wp-content/gallery/entdeckungen/urinella-bastel.jpg)

print, fold at the lines, hold together like a funnel.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: Nygeel on August 06, 2010, 05:19:47 PM
At first I screwed up using the medicine spoon but I figured it out pretty quickly. Of course, use it in the tub/bath til you get the hang of it. You want to position the spoon against the back wall of your front hole/boy box/male box/whatever you want to call that. You need to create a vacuum so it doesn't spill out. And with the bottom of the spoon you want the opening to be wide as opposed to a hole, or just a tiny but of the tip off.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: notyouraverageguy on August 06, 2010, 07:06:05 PM
You kind of have to use on hand to spread things apart down there and make sure u make a seal with just enough pressure. Also hold it down at a 45° angle. And when ur done, there's prolly gonna be some left in the device so pull forward(like scrape against urself).
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: Carson on August 06, 2010, 09:31:17 PM
medicine spoon never worked for me, but i just got the go-girl and I f-ing love it. I drink water literally all day so that I have to pee a lot haha. It was only 10 dollars.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: jmaxley on August 06, 2010, 10:04:54 PM
Haven't tried the coffee can lid method yet, I had forgotten about that.  Now I need to see where I can get one, since I don't drink coffee.   :laugh:

Quote from: Femboy on August 06, 2010, 07:06:05 PM
Also hold it down at a 45° angle.

Maybe that's part of the problem.  Just realized I've been holding it almost straight horizontally.

Post Merge: August 06, 2010, 10:07:09 PM

Quote from: Carson on August 06, 2010, 09:31:17 PM
medicine spoon never worked for me, but i just got the go-girl and I f-ing love it. I drink water literally all day so that I have to pee a lot haha. It was only 10 dollars.

Can you use it at a urinal?  I might have to look into it if so.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: notyouraverageguy on August 06, 2010, 10:25:38 PM
Dang, I remember when the go-girl was like 3.99, then 6.99... I guess the more popular they got the more expensive they got, cause they're 9.99 now right?
Anyways, its a pretty good funnel device for those who have trouble with medicine spoons and such.
They now have the lavendar and camouflage colors, I think ull be able to use em there.
Yeah the angle helps it seal.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: Carson on August 06, 2010, 10:30:27 PM
I haven't tried it at a urinal yet but I don't see why not. I mean, it doesn't look like a packer at all but its flexible and you could probably just tuck it in the waistband of your pants/underwear so that you don't have to look awkward pulling it out of your pocket.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: jmaxley on August 06, 2010, 10:31:35 PM
Ah, cool.  I may try that then.  Hmm, think I'll go with the camo.   :D
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: Carson on August 06, 2010, 11:16:16 PM
hah yeah I got the camo and its really not that bad.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: Tad on August 08, 2010, 11:18:51 AM
I found the only way to make things work down there with medicine spoon was to.. spread with the other hand.. almost.. almost insert the thing, then pull forwards to the appropriate spot, then kinda wiggle it side to side - creates a better seal. Once you get the hang of it it takes like 2 seconds and is fool proof. However.. it took me like a month to get to that point.. I got super frustreated with leakages at inopurtune moments out in public.. but now I got it..! However the 45 degree angle doesn't work for me.. more closer to parallel with the floor..
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: sneakersjay on August 08, 2010, 11:25:18 AM
Fail = pretty standard.

Takes a LOT of practice to use one.

Biggest thing: getting over the ick factor and actually poking around down there to find out exactly where your urethra is.  If you don't cover that area with the STP, you fail.

And, mind you, if you start T after you master this (or even if you master this early on T) your anatomy down there will change and you'll have to relearn where to put the receptacle.

Not easy but so worth it once you master it.

Jay

P.S.  It took me months and many accidents.  Very humbling.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: jmaxley on August 08, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
Thanks guys.  I've worked with the medicine spoon some more and have had two successes now, although I decided to sit while practicing to help keep from making a mess.  Once I get better doing it that way I will try it standing. 

Jay, I had wondered how going on T and the growth afterwards would affect it. 

I really want to learn this method, it's more convenient than the other methods I've tried.  Time to go drink some more water.   :D
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: notyouraverageguy on August 09, 2010, 12:24:02 AM
Yes, the medicine spoon is very convenient.
You usually don't have to wipe with it.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on August 09, 2010, 04:06:05 PM
When you use the turkey baster...do you make sure it creates a tight seal around where you pee from? When you're done do you pull it away a slight bit to allow the seal to break and the rest of the urine to drain out of the tube...then pull it up and out? If I do it like that I have no need for TP. And a turkey baster is my chosen method of an STP.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: jmaxley on August 09, 2010, 08:29:27 PM
I haven't been able to get the turkey baster to work except when I hold it outside my body.  I left the bulb on, that might be why.

I've had a few more successes with the medicine spoon.  I think the problem I had before was not pushing it back far enough.  The biggest problem I have now is I tend to wait so long before going to pee that it's hard to control the flow.  I hate taking a leak when I'm in the middle of something important (like wasting time on the Internet  :laugh: ) 
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on August 10, 2010, 12:13:42 PM
Um...yeah....don't leave the bulb on. I can't even picture this, let alone imagine how it would work. Cut the plastic tube down to size so it's comfortable to use and fits around where you pee from comfortably.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: jmaxley on August 11, 2010, 01:15:36 AM
Lol, yeah, that's why I held it on the outside of my body.  It did work, but not the way I wanted.

Still having problems, it's about 50/50 now while sitting but I still can't get it to work standing.  Part of the problem is that I have very little to no sensation there so I'm having trouble being able to tell exactly where the spoon is, whether it's over the pee-hole or not.   I wonder if that's normal?  Is the area outside the vag supposed to be numb?  Makes it really difficult trying to position this thing.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on August 11, 2010, 12:37:25 PM
My junk has gotten very numb/less sensitive on T. It's probably just your body. That's why sometimes I have to feel for the hole before I position it.
Title: Re: STP fail...fail...fail...fail
Post by: notyouraverageguy on August 11, 2010, 02:03:23 PM
Quote from: jmaxley on August 11, 2010, 01:15:36 AM
Part of the problem is that I have very little to no sensation there so I'm having trouble being able to tell exactly where the spoon is, whether it's over the pee-hole or not.   I wonder if that's normal?  Is the area outside the vag supposed to be numb?  Makes it really difficult trying to position this thing.

Idk if its normal, but I can feel there.
I agree with Leo though, you should feel around down there. Just make sure your hands are clean!
You could also just position way back and pull forward a bit.