Thoughts? How important is it to be able to grow a beard to you? If you can, do you rock it? Are you annoyed by having to shave? Do you go for the scruffy look?
Personally, I'm glad I don't have a lot of it (it only ever shows up right at the edge of my chin and under my chin and randomly at the sides of my upper lip) although I did go through a beard-envy phase. Mostly I don't think I would have actually rocked one, it was more I couldn't actually grow one. Seems silly in retrospect. I have noticed that beards do seem to be in fashion again. I know some other dudes (bio dudes) who lament the fact they can't grow a decent beard. I've known guys that barely have to shave at all too. Like everything else, there's a whole world of variation on it. I think I'm happy actually not having to shave a lot.
My beard is one of the most important things to me. I have one friend who is constantly telling me to shave but it's something that non-trans guys don't understand. While a lot of cis-guys are annoyed by their beard to me it's a rite of passage into manhood. When I started T I would sit in my car and look at my face for hours (the mirror is perfect for that lol) waiting for hairs to grow in.
I have thick side burns and it's thick under my chin and down my neck, and it's starting to thicken out along my jaw line. But I have nothing on my lip and I wish I did. Also waiting for it to come in more on my cheeks, but I know that it's genetic and my dad doesn't even have to shave everyday so what I have is what I have.
I also had an issue once in March when I did shave (for a formal picture) and I went to the grocery store and someone actually referred to me as female until I spoke. I was shocked and angry because I was just about to reach my 2 year mark on T. Personally having facial hair absolutely defines me as a man.
Personally, I think body and facial hair in general is disgusting. However, I think I want grow one of those curly mustaches jokingly, if I ever get to the day that I start T. Otherwise, I couldn't/don't want to imagine myself with facial hair. It's gross. Plus, I have a feeling that the hairstyle I want wouldn't look all too great with a beard or mustache.
I'm not on T and can't grow any facial hair whatsoever, but I must be in one of those "beard-envy phases" you mentioned, insideontheoutside, because the best word that describes how much I want facial hair is "desperately". I've been in this phase for a couple of years and have told pretty much all my friends, even those to whom I'm not particularly close to being out as FTM. My biggest hesitation in pursuing T is fear of the neckbeard, which I think would drive me crazy in the worst way. But a mustache, sideburns, or chin hair? Sign me up, please!
Quote from: Ilan Reshon on August 30, 2010, 09:52:10 PM
I'm not on T and can't grow any facial hair whatsoever, but I must be in one of those "beard-envy phases" you mentioned, insideontheoutside, because the best word that describes how much I want facial hair is "desperately". I've been in this phase for a couple of years and have told pretty much all my friends, even those to whom I'm not particularly close to being out as FTM. My biggest hesitation in pursuing T is fear of the neckbeard, which I think would drive me crazy in the worst way. But a mustache, sideburns, or chin hair? Sign me up, please!
Yeah everyone I know with the dreaded neck beard says it sucks lol. If you have a lot of fuzz you might be able to pull of that "mascara trick". I forget exactly how some guys do it but it could look convincing in some situations.
I agree with Alexx.
Quote from: insideontheoutside on August 30, 2010, 10:11:31 PM
Yeah everyone I know with the dreaded neck beard says it sucks lol. If you have a lot of fuzz you might be able to pull of that "mascara trick". I forget exactly how some guys do it but it could look convincing in some situations.
Yeah, I did that once at a drag show (that was awkward, because to me "drag" has always been high heels and gaudy dresses and a brightly colored wig, but the organizers wanted a drag king to help MC it, and I knew how to look the part), and it worked okay, but only from the distance of the stage; up close it looked pretty silly. XD
Quote from: Ilan Reshon on August 30, 2010, 09:52:10 PM
My biggest hesitation in pursuing T is fear of the neckbeard
The neckbeard is quite awful LOL. They actually paid this guy on a radio show I listen to to grow just a neckbeard for like 2 months, the result was nasty. Thank god for razors!!
Quote from: Chris968 on August 30, 2010, 10:17:09 PM
The neckbeard is quite awful LOL. They actually paid this guy on a radio show I listen to to grow just a neckbeard for like 2 months, the result was nasty. Thank god for razors!!
I don't think I could manage to bring a razor to my neck. My hands shake just thinking about it!
But your story reminds me of a cis-male friend of mine who couldn't grow a mustache any faster than I can, but he could grow a mean neckbeard, which he of course hated. At a party once, he wore an obviously fake mustache just to see what it was like. q-: I actually borrowed it for most of the party, and several people said it looked better on me!
Even if I could grow facial hair, I would shave it off instantly. Body hair (minus pubic hair) disgusts me so I don't want my own.
If I can grow one (and I think I will be able to, with going on T and my father's facial hair as proof and all) it will be an ego boost. But it seems like more of a hassle than it will be worth, just another chore, self-maintenance. So perhaps I'd prefer a thinner one or one that grows slowly.
I'll probably just go for the clean-shaven look. Although I may try a beard once, just to see how it looks.
I really don't want facial hair. But considering how hairy I am pre-T (I have to pretty much shave once a week right now), I'll probably get the whole Grizzly Adams ensemble. Though I will say the idea of facial hair doesn't bother me quite as much now as it did a few months ago. A little on the jawline wouldn't be so bad, but I'd probably still shave. Oi, and I don't want a neck beard. But I desperately want some sideburns.
I would rock the sideburns :)
Facial hair has been the physical change I most enjoyed, apart from my voice dropping. Though "enjoy" is not quite the right word. It was more like: "Wow, finally things are getting right."
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I shave it and then let it grow for half a week or one week.
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THis hasn't changed yet.
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Oh, man, I'm loving those comics! :laugh:
I've had a few dreams where i had a beard/ facial hair. Somehow in the dreams i knew exactly how it felt, my family is quite hairy. Perhaps my ancestral beard is calling to me, but if and when i start T i will be putting willpower into facial hair growth. I wan me a beard, fo sho!
I kind of think, if you have any kind of even or more than a few sprouts of facial hair, people are going to read you as male. Actually, saying that, there was once a cashier working somewhere i saw who was not ugly, really, just normal looking and she had a pretty noticeable, pretty epic woman beard/ moustache. And I'm not talking the light stuff, you could see this for miles. But generally, beard= guy, imo.
How is hair growth inherited btw? A quick search on google just told me how hair loss is inherited; what i mean is from the father/ mother side?
I developed a stroking-invisible-beard motion when thinking when I was 13 or 14, and I've had a cis-male friend tell me that he wished he could grow a moustache like mine. I have no other facial hair, but light-coloured longer fuzz in the sideburns area, which also feels somewhat courser and different than my other peach fuzz. I've had blonde body hair (well, this tiny soft peach fuzz type of things), but some of it became dark during puberty. So now I'm rockin' dark moustache, arm and leg hair, and a couple chest hairs. I wish I could get a goatee, like my father, it seems like it'd suit me somehow. If it wouldn't, well, that way I'd get something real to stroke when thinking.
I rock my chin scruff proudly ;D.
It's still growing and expanding but I have enough to look unkempt if it's left to it's own devices :laugh:.
No neckbeard yet... thankfully. It started under the chin, and is moving up towards the bottom lip and along the jaw rather than down the neck.
It's important to me to be able to grow facial hair. Always wanted it. Want more of it. I'm always stroking the damn stuff, and feeling around for stubble. It's fantastic to feel something on this goddamn body that fits for once!
I only shave some of it, and only sometimes - though I don't find shaving that big an annoyance. That said, it's pretty well behaved as is - I just tidy it up a little.
I expect this to change in the future, of course. My family are Yeti :laugh:
whoa, so much beard hate! I think facial hair is fun, I look like a lumberjack if I don't shave (although that has a lot to do with my genetics). Generally I rock a close-cropped stubble...they did a study that showed that women are most attracted to that, since it tends to define your facial bone structure and show your ability to grow a beard without being so long it actually obscures your jawline. I trust science!
Quote from: Maldita on August 31, 2010, 04:27:40 AM
I developed a stroking-invisible-beard motion when thinking when I was 13 or 14
Me too, and it never went away.
When I first decided to transition, facial hair was the last thing on my mind. And then I thought, great I don't have to shave my legs!! But then, Oh no, I have to shave my face!! At that moment the thought of growing facial hair was ehhhh....
But then I've always liked facial hair on men, in the form of neatly trimmed/closely cropped beards, so of course as soon as I could grow some i did. I trim it weekly with a beard trimmer, do shave my neck to neaten the lower edge.
It's coming in slowly. Fairly decent but there are places that need to fill in (IMO).
Jay
I have a fuzzy downy covering from my chin up to my cheek bones and under my nose. It's there and I can feel it but it's so thin and light that it really can't be seen unless you are in the right kind of light and really, really close.
I don't think I would ever want a full beard but something like what Orlando has here wouldn't be so bad.
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Facial hair isn't important to me but I do want some because I love it :D
I can't wait to grow facial hair, its number one on my priority list :D
My facial hair is coming in quite slowly but I am steadily getting more and more. I probably have more than I think but the longest I go without shaving at the moment is about 4 days. It's mostly around my sideburns and chin. I'm not too concerned about how much of it I have currently, since my dad has very thick and fast growing facial hair. I seem to be turning into a younger version of him so I'm hopeful that I'll get the same.
I will grow some sort of beard when I have anything decent to grow.
My moustache is come along nicely. God knows why the people who 'she' me think a woman would walk around with a tache like mine but hey ho. I have quite a lot of chin hair already but nothing uber bristly yet.
As I'm balding quite quickly I fully intend to rock the goatee look to compensate ;D
Quote from: Wolf on August 31, 2010, 03:26:54 AM
How is hair growth inherited btw? A quick search on google just told me how hair loss is inherited; what i mean is from the father/ mother side?
Genetics ... and I believe most people just look at the males in the family to see how it works.
I LOVE my facial hair. My sideburns are the love of my life. I wish I had even more, but much of that has to do with my weird facial hair growth pattern. I have never actually seen it fully grown since I never let it go for more than a week without shaving (except for the sideburns, those are permanent), but judging from one week of growth, it would look a lot like this badly done picture that I just made in Paint:
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The sideburns, cheeks and bottom of the chin have thick, fast-growning coverage. The mustache grows a bit thinner and slower. The top part of my chin is bare with the exception of a tiny patch that grows under my lower lip with the same speed and thickness as my mustache. I think if I let it grow fully that I would look rather monkeyish :o I am pretty certain that it will fill in soon since my father had an epic beard when he first came to the U.S. in his mid twenties (though sadly he shaved it shortly after).
Quote from: noxdraconis on August 31, 2010, 03:47:42 PM
I think if I let it grow fully that I would look rather monkeyish :o
I was thinking more Wolverine, from X-Men.
Quote from: JohnR on August 31, 2010, 11:47:00 AM
My moustache is come along nicely. God knows why the people who 'she' me think a woman would walk around with a tache like mine but hey ho. I have quite a lot of chin hair already but nothing uber bristly yet.
As I'm balding quite quickly I fully intend to rock the goatee look to compensate ;D
Yeah, most women would shave or wax or something. I used to hate it when at work a client (a woman) would come in with a better stache than mine. It's still on the wimpy side but getting there!
Jay
I desperately want sideburns. I'm indifferent to any other facial hair. Maybe a chin scruff option would be okay, too, but I can take or leave that. Unfortunately, at the moment, my whiskers are all under my chin/jaw where they are useless.
Quote from: jmaxley on August 31, 2010, 04:11:34 PM
I was thinking more Wolverine, from X-Men.
You are absolutely correct! I should have posted a pic of that guy and I would have saved myself the embarrassment of that awful Paint job too.
I am on T and some facial hair has begun to grow in [chin scruff and a bit of a moustache.] It does get to the point where its noticeable enough that it needs to be shaved, but I always put it off as long as I can because while I have *knockonwood* never experienced any problems with acne I tend to develop not-so-flattering blemishes after shaving.
As far as actually having a beard I could really go either way on it. Not going to lie, I have pondered growing a beard[probably framing my jaw line and then longer at the chin billy goat style] and long enough to bleach the tip of and dye it blue. Thats a tad bit of a far off dream at the moment though. What I'm really impatient for are some damn sideburns already. I'm not talking porkchops or anything, but I'd like it if I didn't have a clear lack of any hint of hair growing beyond the top of my ear [peach fuzz not included.]
Yep i am currently obsessed with growing facial hair. i'm a year on T and am starting to get blonde stubble, but probably still have a long way to go. sooo frustrating! I'd love some sideburns! if my facial hair was darker you would definately see it on my chin but alas.
I'm not on T but I get thick hairs, some dark and some blond on my chin, can't stop stroking them lol.
Nxdraconis, that paint image reminded me a bit of my father, actually. I like my father; it'd be cool to look a bit more like him. Everyone keeps telling me how much I look like my mother...
Facial hair is not something I want. I'd definitely always be clean shaven, as I just don't care for the un-shaven look. I guess it could be fun to grow out a funny mustache or goatee for Halloween or something, but other than that I'd be perfectly happy to never grow any and not have to add the extra chore of shaving.
Quote from: JohnR on August 31, 2010, 11:47:00 AM
My moustache is come along nicely. God knows why the people who 'she' me think a woman would walk around with a tache like mine but hey ho. I have quite a lot of chin hair already but nothing uber bristly yet.
As I'm balding quite quickly I fully intend to rock the goatee look to compensate ;D
I've seen reports of some lesbians delighting in facial hair from natural results not T, perhaps from PCOS like the partner of one of women I meet on committee work who has black head hair and so has quite visible moustache and sideburns but nothing on her chin or jaw line.
I can't wait until I can grow a lot of facial hair. I have some but if I let it grow it just looks stupid because there's not enough so I shave every other day usually. I'm letting my sideburns grow and those look ok but still not nearly as thick as I'd hoped they would be by 16 months on T :( Trying to be patient but yeah, facial hair is very important to me.
I've got the exact same facial hair pattern as you, noxdraconis. It's something I haven't seen on any of the biomales I know. Oh well, I guess no handlebar mustache for me...
Me neither. Maybe it is a transman thing ??? or maybe it will just fix itself with time either because of being longer on T or because of being older in general? With biomales, I have seen them grow opposite of us: the mustache and chin filling in first and the cheeks last.
Quote from: noxdraconis on September 01, 2010, 03:58:37 PM
Me neither. Maybe it is a transman thing ??? or maybe it will just fix itself with time either because of being longer on T or because of being older in general? With biomales, I have seen them grow opposite of us: the mustache and chin filling in first and the cheeks last.
You know, now that you mention it that is kinda true huh. Odd.
I still wish I could grow sideburns *is bummed*
You might get them when you get older and the E factories shut down, depending on genetics. My mother has an envyworthy mustache and sideburns, as do most of my aunts :laugh: Is your family rather hairy?
Sorry! You do not actually have to answer that. I just realized what a rude and awkward question that was.
Quote from: noxdraconis on September 01, 2010, 07:47:13 PM
Sorry! You do not actually have to answer that. I just realized what a rude and awkward question that was.
lol no worries. i guess at best the males in the family are average.
I get beard envy all the time. I want to be able to grow a full beard like my friend; His beard is full all the way across his chin and up the sideburns too. When ever I see a guy pass by, particularly if I know them and they've got quite a bit of facial hair, I get so jealous. And I'm not typically a jealous person.
I desperately want to grow more facial hair. But genetics say otherwise, my father and his side are slow growing or hairless. :-\ My maternal uncles all have been able to grow full beards but by the looks of it that doesn't really matter. I'd love chops, don't think ima get them though.
I currently do not grow any visible facial hair (just that female peach fuzz stuff...barely). I shave a couple times a week and don't mind it. I ended up teaching my two younger brothers how to shave. I would really like to grow a chin strap beard, my brothers tend to grow out goatees...well, actually...all of 'em have those now besides me. It helps hide that second chin we have.
Today, I discovered I am finally getting some chin whiskers. There's not a whole lot of it, and it's still low (barely above the jawline), but it's distinctly real stubble. I'm 5.5 weeks on T now and it's the first real facial hair growth I can attribute to it. Crossing my fingers now and hoping hard for sideburns!
It may sound weird but I want a lot of facial and body hair. I want to be like an ape, not quite but you get my drift. I'm pre-T for now but only for 2 more days. I have thin medium length hair all over my torso. I have a noticable line of hair on my belly but it's not coarse hair and also all around on my chest, but again not course. I hope I'm uber hairy. Maybe one day ill enter a beard and moustache art competition.
I plan on growing out my facial when it comes in and fills up. I'll shave when it's patchy, but after that I'm goin biker beard all the way, baby.
Having facial hair is one of the greatest things in the world. I rarely shave and almost always have a tasch goin' on cause it totally suits me ;D
One thing i noticed was that about a month after having a hysto my facial hair grew in darker and thicker and my sideburns finally started to fill out and join up, which i thought was verrrry interesting.
I don't like facial hair or getting hairier in general. I'm not looking forward to it.
Having facial hair was never important to me until I knew I was able to grow it out, lol. I'm working on growing out my sideburns and chin hair.. if I don't get too annoyed with it, I'll probably work on growing a chinstrap of some sort. It's kind of fun to experament with at the least.
Quote from: noxdraconis on September 01, 2010, 03:58:37 PM
Me neither. Maybe it is a transman thing ??? or maybe it will just fix itself with time either because of being longer on T or because of being older in general? With biomales, I have seen them grow opposite of us: the mustache and chin filling in first and the cheeks last.
My facial hair grew in mustache first, chin second and I'm still waiting for cheek and sideburns to grow. I get some random spots of hair but not much at all, a little random patch to the side of each corner of my mouth (not actually right BY my mouth, more like an inch out but it's random nonetheless). So I guess I grow hair like cis males do :P
I've been on T for 3 years now but the little spots off to the sides of my mouth are new and have just come in over the last couple of months so I'm holding out hope for more to grow. I rocked a chin strap for about half a year by using the facial hair dye on it, and I dye my goatee and all that every few weeks. I don't really need to dye all of it but my soul patch grows in blonder than the rest so I just dye it all so the shades will match better.
My bad, I forgot to respond to the actual topic lol. I was also going to say that I LOVE my facial hair. If it had not been for a desire to grow facial hair I probably would not have started T at all. I was very much one of those people who was not that into the idea of transitioning, not that it wouldn't be (and hasn't been) nice but I just didn't care. I'm very comfortable with my body and other than chest surgery so I had no desire for physical change or for my body to stay as it was... I was just indifferent.
So long story short, the only reason I took this route was to have facial hair. It is something I've always wanted and been envious of my entire life on other men. It helps me pass well, I passed before T but now my status as male is never even considered twice by anyone.
Quote from: Cowboi on September 15, 2010, 08:14:53 PM
My bad, I forgot to respond to the actual topic lol. I was also going to say that I LOVE my facial hair. If it had not been for a desire to grow facial hair I probably would not have started T at all. I was very much one of those people who was not that into the idea of transitioning, not that it wouldn't be (and hasn't been) nice but I just didn't care. I'm very comfortable with my body and other than chest surgery so I had no desire for physical change or for my body to stay as it was... I was just indifferent.
heh, that woukd be my ultimate reason too.... i don't care so much for changing at all, but i'd love some messy hair on my face ;D
Dude, if I could grow facial hair I so would! I'm one of those people that loves to change their look all the time and being able to have mustache, goatees, sideburns, scruffy beards, the whole shebang sounds like heaven to me! I've wanted sideburns and a soul patch since I was like 7 so... lol
One day, one day... :P
I'm generally not a big fan of facial hair. I have the "neck beard" growing in, as well as chin hair and sideburns, and that I can deal with. Thankfully I haven't started growing a moustache yet--not looking forward to that at all!
Not gonna lie, but, I'm very much looking forward to hair growth once on T (whenever that might happen).
Facial hair and a "happy trail" primarily...I don't want back hair, and don't necessarily care if I get chest hair and could go either way on that one. I really hope I get a "happy trail" -- my younger brother has one, though my pops and older brother are quite a bit hairier than he is.
I'm hoping I'll get good growth and pretty early on. I already have a few that have been growing for a while just below and to the right of my chin, and then a bit of a 'stache (primarily the ends) that is kind of prominent but doesn't really grow. My brothers have gone through or are going through phases of patchy growth, but my pops has a fairly long, thick beard and has had it since he was in high school.
I'd probably rock the stubble (with thicker sideburns) primarily and occasionally do something more with it. I'm almost hoping for the happy trail a bit more than the facial hair, but largely they're about tied.
^That post just reminded me that I absolutely love my happy trail and can't wait for T to make it a little thicker. [x
I'd rather stay relatively clean shaven in the face... though knowing me I would experiment with mustaches lol. But the one thing I really yearn for is to be able to grow sideburns. I had some baby hair that looked like sideburns if you didn't get too close but my barber shaved it off.
Quote from: noαh on September 21, 2010, 09:48:50 PM
^That post just reminded me that I absolutely love my happy trail and can't wait for T to make it a little thicker. [x
I'd rather stay relatively clean shaven in the face... though knowing me I would experiment with mustaches lol. But the one thing I really yearn for is to be able to grow sideburns. I had some baby hair that looked like sideburns if you didn't get too close but my barber shaved it off.
I have sideburn envy ... oh how I wish I could grow those lol.
Assuming that I CAN grow facial hair, I'm going to shave it until it starts growing in evenly, and then try to keep an even layer of stubble. I don't think anything more than that would look mildly attractive on me.