Hello Everyone This Michael.Angelas say me to write for here. She in car accident this morning.Have damage and scar to face.I go back to hospital now.She request you no send private messages.Reunion cancelled.I did post only for her you to know.Just pray for her at this time.Doctor said she going need major reconstruction face.I keep say her alright she afraid look diffrent but no choice.
OMG :( ANGELA :'( I will be thinking about her. <3 :(
Something doesn't sound right about this.
Possibly fake...
If it's genuine I hope that she is ok, but I have my suspicions...
Sending healing wishes!
I'd like to send both my condolences, and best wishes. Angela, I hope that you will undergo a speedy recovery.
I hope she is alright. Please keep us posted as to her condition.
Quote from: jennifer90 on September 04, 2010, 11:22:57 AM
Something doesn't sound right about this.
Possibly fake...
If it's genuine I hope that she is ok, but I have my suspicions...
I've been a little uneasy all along. the whole thing sounds like a troll...maybe dwb's idea of fun.
Quote from: lilacwoman on September 04, 2010, 01:42:26 PM
I've been a little uneasy all along. the whole thing sounds like a troll...maybe dwb's idea of fun.
Me too.. reading her earlier posts, they just didn't add up. What is dwb if you don't mind me asking?
Quote from: jennifer90 on September 04, 2010, 02:10:54 PM
Me too.. reading her earlier posts, they just didn't add up. What is dwb if you don't mind me asking?
a transphobic blogger. We try to refrain from mentioning their whole name so it doesn't link back here.
I hope you're feeling okay and wish you a speedy recovery Angela.
What ever the circumstances, since I have come to join in this conversation and got involved emotionally, I want to send Angela my deepest love and prayer! I know at the end it will all come together as a meaningful event to all of us. Angela, stay strong!
Quote from: Nero on September 04, 2010, 02:15:54 PM
a transphobic blogger. We try to refrain from mentioning their whole name so it doesn't link back here.
Oh I see! Maybe then, just seems a bit strange why they would go to this much trouble writing so many posts. Definitely doesn't add up!
Innocent untill proven otherwise. Maybe I have too much faith in mankind...
For now I wish you a speedy recovery and best health.
This girl's posts sound a lot like the plot of some drama/romance novel, however I'll give her the benefit of a doubt and wish her the best. If this is real then it's very tragic:(
Curiouser and curiouser... cries Alice!
Well digging a little deeper not a lot shows up for Angela Venetos, in the real world... So it's a kinda weird stealth choice of name...innit? And not on Bebo, MsSpace or FaceCrook?
And a tad odd maybe that you can post such a catchy-grabby headline in such perfect English....but then the meat of the thread in a mix of pigeon?
Hey ho...if she's really mashed up then none of us here would wish her anything but the very best with her recovery...and an awful event it would truly be... and sincere and heart-felt best wishes with all of that....
However if this is yet another 'sap' getting cheap kicks by trolling...then shame on you.... wind up some other more deserving folk....?
And while you're at it...get a real life....
Quote from: Cruelladeville on September 04, 2010, 03:32:32 PM
...And a tad odd maybe that you can post such a catchy-grabby headline in such perfect English....but then the meat of the thread in a mix of pigeon?
I thought the same thing. Also, typically if a person is in a rush they'll leave out vowels and use acronyms and other shorthands, but they won't leave out whole words. Especially not when they still capitalize the first words of every sentence. I could maybe see a foreigner typing like this, but if Mike had been a foreign exchange student I'm sure Angela would have mentioned it. The only thing that would really make sense to me is if Angela and Mike are both foreign and Angela just happens to have much better English than Mike. Either way it's still odd that they'd both have a habit of not adding spaces after periods.
IM very sad see some post negative Angela.She give me name topic.I post my words what happen.She in stable condition.Scheduled friday for face reconstruction.Sorry have bad english.No more post from me.Get Angela trouble.She post when back from face surgery.
Quote from: Ayaname on September 04, 2010, 04:32:36 PMif Mike had been a foreign exchange student I'm sure Angela would have mentioned it. The only thing that would really make sense to me is if Angela and Mike are both foreign and Angela just happens to have much better English than Mike. Either way it's still odd that they'd both have a habit of not adding spaces after periods.
Mike and Angela are both Greek, aren't they?
Quote from: Angela Venetos on August 26, 2010, 03:03:40 PM
Hi Everyone , my name is Angela.Im a 35 year old post op from Greece.
Quote from: Angela Venetos on August 30, 2010, 05:14:34 AM
...it was my drinking buddy michael from high school...
Quote from: Angela Venetos on September 04, 2010, 04:36:05 PM
IM very sad see some post negative Angela.She give me name topic.I post my words what happen.She in stable condition.Scheduled friday for face reconstruction.Sorry have bad english.No more post from me.Get Angela trouble.She post when back from face surgery.
I just have the feeling that Angela's boyfriend is doing the posting. English is not his prime language, so it reads funny. He is at least keep us updated.
I give people the benefit of a doubt. And I think we all should.
I feel need to explain Angela.She born United State from greekamerican parents.She came Greece 9 year old.She have excellent english.Please have topic go before she back.I dont want replies here Angela see.
I'm not trying to be negative, but why is the title in perfect English? Did Angela come and help you write it first?
Anyway, best wishes.
Quote from: Octavianus on September 04, 2010, 04:37:37 PM
Mike and Angela are both Greek, aren't they?
Ahh, I must have missed that one. However I'm still curious about both having the habit of not putting spaces after periods. I wonder if that's common in Greece.
Quote from: Octavianus on September 04, 2010, 02:55:32 PM
Innocent untill proven otherwise. Maybe I have too much faith in mankind...
For now I wish you a speedy recovery and best health.
In the yesrs I've been surfing the web, chatting to people, I've come to meet people with many different backgrounds and stories. I'm sure this is the same for many others.
My own story is incredably complicated and covers three different continents and sever different countries.
I've learn to take everyone as I find them. I don't want to be taking the high gound here. But it's silly to get cynical, simply because it can quickly become a habit and we end up doubting everyone.
Angela and Michael, Please try to be understanding of some people here. Most people here are, like you, sharing very personal details of theri lives, often for the first time.
I'm sure you both know that there are trolls who wander around the web with no other aim than to cause trouble. We've had personal photos on this site, for example, posted elsewhere by such idiots.
We all wish you well Angela. You have Michael by your side and our thoughts with you.
This is very tragic but I'm pretty sure you will recover and knowing how positive and intelegent you are, not to mention, very determined. You will soon be organising another reunion.
Please keep posting and tell us how you are getting on.
Tone of love.
*Puts hand on hip and shakes finger*
I am very sad to see negative posts being made on a thread involving such a sensitive issue
When did any of these naysayers become the judge and jury to decide?
I move that the negative posts be removed
I've known people who have suffered with rather serious injuries and have been dealing with some injuries myself
I wish Angela all the best for a speedy recovery
Please keep us posted of her condition Michael
Quote from: Virginia Marie on September 04, 2010, 07:33:25 PM
*Puts hand on hip and shakes finger*
I am very sad to see negative posts being made on a thread involving such a sensitive issue
When did any of these naysayers become the judge and jury to decide?
I move that the negative posts be removed
I've known people who have suffered with rather serious injuries and have been dealing with some injuries myself
I wish Angela all the best for a speedy recovery
Please keep us posted of her condition Michael
I second that movement!! Either way, I care for Angela and am really worried about her. :(
I'm very sorry to hear about the accident Michael.
I wish Angela all the best and a speedy recovery.
Quote from: Virginia Marie on September 04, 2010, 07:33:25 PM
*Puts hand on hip and shakes finger*
I am very sad to see negative posts being made on a thread involving such a sensitive issue
When did any of these naysayers become the judge and jury to decide?
I move that the negative posts be removed
I've known people who have suffered with rather serious injuries and have been dealing with some injuries myself
I wish Angela all the best for a speedy recovery
Please keep us posted of her condition Michael
I third this....
Im quite dissipointed in seeing all this negitivity!
Quick healing!
*bites my tongue and avoids saying "told you so"*..... .........I hope everything pans out for the best Angela.xo ♥
I went my boss today.Using some weeks my vacation time. He understand.Angela boss I go tomorrow explain.Her mother with now in hospital.I not allowed to go till 7.00 tonight. Only 1 visitor at time allowed, but angelas mother call me if need something.We leaving Crete on tuesday for Athens.She meet doctor on wendsday he explain her about face.Friday she starts and completes 5 days.She tell me why 5 days but I not rememember.She has test run yesterday all results good.Only face has damage.She in still pain in her back area. doctors say nothing wrong found in back.Just from impact in crash.She talk phone with doctor in athens in morning.She call me phone crying.She say doctor said has to be realistic.He say after doctors fax angela picture to him seeing how injure angelas face.He says angela will look preety again but very diffrent.I tell her love her no matter look like after.I try get angela to post on own, brought laptop to hospital.Her back hurt when she sit up to write .Please forgive for my english.This all very new to me.Spacial thank you for messages to angela, i have read her .Ask angela what troll is? Angela explain to me. she laugh that I ask but explains. This site suprise me many people like angela.No problem to site but me not visit after angela recovery.I can promise update only up tomorrow.Angela update after back from Athens.Plese pray for and thanks understanding.
Hi Mike, you are very sweet to care for your girl so much. Be strong and be there for her, she needs you now more than ever.
Dear Angela, if you read this know that our thoughts are with you and that we wish you nothing but the best.
My thoughts are with Angela in this difficult time, and she is very fortunate to have such a good and caring friend to keep us updated. I hope her surgery goes okay. *hugs*
Mike, you are a rare jewel of an man. You staying by Angela side thru this whole ordeal. May the gods bless both if you.
Please keep us advise of her progress and tell her we are waiting for her return to her online family. And you are welcome to come back, we do like hearing for Significant Others ( Boyfriends, girlfriend, partners ).
A troll cannot be such a sweet heart. ;)
I wish you a speedy and painless recovery, Angela. :icon_flower:
I return from hospital visiting hours over. I hate our hospitals.Angela say they much better in Athens ,London, New York. She do better and back hurts less . She talk to doctors of insurance ,they cover only 2 of 5 surgeries Angela need.Angela say she have money saved from years ago . She say if cant look like self anymore,she spend more to get look good.She tell me what is having done, but not remember.I only remember, is having said will do everything she had done to face when first become woman.I going to miss her beautiful face, but say me if turn out like she think and what doctor has describe to her I be suprised.I love her anywat.I had tell Angela since go Athens with her, can no lie to my parents.I tell them whole story, they knew Angela become woman.They say me word get around from neighbors.I dont know why parents hid this from me.But since ok with us, no complain.Have to leave PC now.Because after 12 am.Have to see Angelas boss at bank at 8 am to explain.
Absolutely remarkable of Michael to take time away from Angela's side and log in to her account to let us know she's received life changing injuries just a few hours after the event. And how selfless of Angela that her first thought was for us! Lesser mortals would have been incoherently doped out of their heads and unable to string a normal sentence together. Angela was able to give Michael the url of this forum, her log in details and tell him which forum to post in and exactly what to say and that remarkable man didn't forget one single instruction. I suppose it's only to be expected that he forgot the medical details though, you know long day, tough time, trauma, worried.
I'm gutted for Angela that it happened the morning of the very day she's looked forward to for so long. I expect Michael contacted the reunion organizer and let them know too, so thoughtful.
Get well soon Angela.
I notice Angela's avatar has been changed since Michael has been logging in. Is that another thoughtful thing he's done or did one of the mods change it?
Quote from: JohnR on September 06, 2010, 02:35:57 AM
Absolutely remarkable of Michael to take time away from Angela's side and log in to her account to let us know she's received life changing injuries just a few hours after the event. And how selfless of Angela that her first thought was for us! Lesser mortals would have been incoherently doped out of their heads and unable to string a normal sentence together. Angela was able to give Michael the url of this forum, her log in details and tell him which forum to post in and exactly what to say and that remarkable man didn't forget one single instruction. I suppose it's only to be expected that he forgot the medical details though, you know long day, tough time, trauma, worried.
I'm gutted for Angela that it happened the morning of the very day she's looked forward to for so long. I expect Michael contacted the reunion organizer and let them know too, so thoughtful.
Get well soon Angela.
I notice Angela's avatar has been changed since Michael has been logging in. Is that another thoughtful thing he's done or did one of the mods change it?
I second that!
I tell Angela she have to update whenever recover . I no post here anymore.People very rude in our hard time.I no see what Angela like here.
What happened to human kindness? Medical diagnosis is much more difficult to remember especially for a non-medical person who also has to translate it into a foreign language - susans.org is simple to remember compared to that. Mike already said he had the laptop in the hospital.
No harm in believing someone until proof that they are not being truthful, but accusing someone of lying when they are not does much harm.
Μην αφήνετε σημαίνει τους ανθρώπους σας ενοχλήσει. Υπάρχουν πολλοί καλοί άνθρωποι εδώ!
I agree with Robertina, what happened to innocent untill proven otherwise?
You might call me naive but I don't wish to speculate.
Assumptions are the mother of all ->-bleeped-<-ups.
While I agree with Octavianus and Robertina, Michael needs to get a thicker skin.
But it is also understood that he is quite upset at the moment.
I know we all wish them both well.
I sympathies and cherish devotion of those that even though seams a hokes still give their love and support. Then others that clearly read between the lines see the story unfold with such mechanical and truthfully doubtful scenarios and logically come to the conclusion, are in their right as well.
For what ever the reason I believe that this event happened for us to draw conclusions and grow in our love for each other. After all being who we are you sisters are my true family and I know I count on having this sort of Italian, loud and opinionated crowd which at the end will embrace and give me shelter. Love to you all including Angela!
Kool sum up Alexia..... I second that!
Quote from: spacial on September 06, 2010, 09:32:11 AM
While I agree with Octavianus and Robertina, Michael needs to get a thicker skin.
I think maybe foreigners aren't as used to putting up with rudeness and mistrust. It seems to be an American trait for the most part.
Quote from: Ayaname on September 06, 2010, 12:27:52 PM
I think maybe foreigners aren't as used to putting up with rudeness and mistrust. It seems to be an American trait for the most part.
Yeah I'm sure that
no other country in the world has people like that :)
Seeing Michael won't be back, I just want to say I don't think he or Angela are trolls. I've come across attentions seekers before, but this really doesn't follow the pattern.
I can't imagine what anyone would be getting out of it. Idk. There;s always some pay off. She doesn't have a big back story, only about some reunion, which now is off.
A car accident just before a school reunion and face reconstruction after a successful ffs few years prior, I don;t know, sounds messed up to me. Stories sometimes seem too wild to be true. ???
Michael wasn't coming back anyway, or did this part of his post get missed?
Quote from: Angela Venetos on September 05, 2010, 06:40:52 AMI can promise update only up tomorrow.Angela update after back from Athens.
Anyway, hope you get better Angela. I wish your surgery to be a great success. :)
Quote from: mija on September 08, 2010, 02:25:08 AM
Yeah I'm sure that no other country in the world has people like that :)
I've known many different people from non English speaking countries and they all have been much more trusting and idealistic. From my experience it's mainly the US, UK, and Australia that have a large enough majority of ->-bleeped-<-s to cause a general mistrust among their citizens. I haven't known people from many Indian countries though so I can't speak for them.
But again, that's my own experience. Hence my wording of my last post:
"I think maybe foreigners aren't as used to putting up with rudeness and mistrust. It seems to be an American trait for the most part."
Quote from: Ayaname on September 08, 2010, 12:10:13 PM
I've known many different people from non English speaking countries and they all have been much more trusting and idealistic. From my experience it's mainly the US, UK, and Australia that have a large enough majority of ->-bleeped-<-s to cause a general mistrust among their citizens. I haven't known people from many Indian countries though so I can't speak for them.
But again, that's my own experience. Hence my wording of my last post:
"I think maybe foreigners aren't as used to putting up with rudeness and mistrust. It seems to be an American trait for the most part."
Either way it's very ~America~ to be rude and what not. I don't blame you for what you said but I really agree with it.