I met another transexual yesterday. She was pretty, had her boob job and had some hip work done,,overall very pretty, but as I was talking with her I notices that she had hairy armpits. So me being me, thinking that maybe she was unaware of it I told her. Her reply was, "I like being a transsexual" We parted company shortly thereafter and I didnt get the chance to ask her what it is that she meant...... can anyone here please try to help me with this? I know that for me, I ALWAYS shave them, and everything else for that matter. (me being Italian/Irish doesnt help)
Well, I'm not in the same mindset as she was, but it sounds like she likes blending the two genders in and that defines her. Which is ok, I suppose.
Armpits aren't really all that big of a deal, really. There's a lot of women out there that don't shave their armpits.
I, personally, hate body hair. I always have. But I'm sure there's some women out there that embrace it.
eeeeeewwwww hairy armpits are sOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO gross!!! I know Ive seen biological fish that have had a forrest of hair under their arms,,,,, EWWWW yuk yuk yuk
Many women don't shave. That is a personal choice, but for me I do not like hairy pits, legs or arms.
A lot of girls will not shave everyday because it's an utter pain, especially in colder weather when you're covered up, it's kinder to the skin not to shave every day.
EEEWWWW not me. I dont like being a porcupine
Quote from: Helena on September 25, 2010, 11:12:51 AM
A lot of girls will not shave everyday because it's an utter pain, especially in colder weather when you're covered up, it's kinder to the skin not to shave every day.
Yeah ... I honestly know very few women who will shave very often in the winter when everything is all covered up. Unless, of course, they have a boyfriend. Then its hit and miss depending on the guy.
Having smooth pits was important enough for me to get laser on them. It would very effectively, though I do get a stray one their every now and then. No biggie....
laser is great!! I had my face lasered. I can get a session for 60 bucks how much did you pay
Albany NY is about $100 for the face. 5 sections, thats $500...
Ouch. (expecially the upper lip).
But then I did pluck my face and breasts for 20 years....
Yeah ... Laser in the Seattle Area for Face and Chest is floating around 600.00. The place i go is 400 for the face/neck and 200 for chest.
I shave my armpits, and get my legs waxed. Shaving legs is pointless for me, because it just grows back so fast, waxing together with my HRT makes less of it come back. It was pretty nerve-wracking getting my legs professionally waxed, because of what was between them though.
She likes being a transsexual, so she wants to make it apparent enough to people.
Although males being hairless or females being hairy cause some discomfort for some, i find it to be a personal choice of comfort. Ive been shaving my entire body since ive had body hair with the exception of my arms. I associate majorally with the local hippy community and the majority of my female friends are quite a bit more hairy than myself.
I had my arm pits lasered, it is a personal choice, I think hairy arm pits is not very feminine, I don't have body hair, Im just smooth and silky all over, thats the way my Husband wants me lol
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I only need to shave my arm pits onces a week and they stay smooth now that I am on HRT.
Personally I hate hairy arm pits on males and females. It a great place to keep that underarm sweat smell. Yummy! :o :icon_blah: :icon_blah:
Jillieann
I suppose it is personal choice all women get hairy armpits, I hate them and most of us shave them
It does not take that long as I shower/bath everyday
Well in general, some girls (natal and trans) don't agree that women should shave their pits and other body parts while men don't have to.
I just try to go along with gender norms, I like smooth anyway =)
It sounds to me that the person you met who said "I like being transsexual" doesn't know what that means. An MTF TS is simply a woman born in a man's body, simple. As I've stated in other threads a lot of people call themselves TSs and wear it like a badge of honor, something that is different and special, parade it around, etc. It is ok to be happy with who you are as it gives you self esteem and purpose in life. However, if someone is truly a woman in a man's body I don't see why they would be acting any differently than genetic women normally do. I don't even see the point to this whole thread or question. I'm sick of trans women being subjected to femininity standards that cis women would never tolerate. A TS woman is simply a woman period who just needs to change various attributes of her body. Some GGs have hairy armpits and some don't. If being a TS is about how girly you look, the size of your boobs, about "being trans" and comparing yourself to other "->-bleeped-<-s" then you are not a TS but a crossdresser. A TS is the same as a GG in the sense that both care about getting up in the morning and going to work. Unless the issue discussed is strictly the ability to pass well, I'm growing increasingly wary of "TSs" whose focus is looks and appearance (i.e. being feminine) as it sounds like crossdresser talk to me. It reminds me of the endless times I'm in a bar that has a lot of so-called TSs and I'm always being told how I have "no makeup on" despite that I have a pretty standard amount yet GGs will be in the same bar with absolutely no makeup and nothing would be said to them. Or why I shouldn't drink beer because that isn't girly enough. So I can't understand why someone would be concerned if a TS has hairy armpits and I equally can't understand why a TS would want to be perceived as a "->-bleeped-<-" instead of just a woman.
I guess I'm lucky in that I've never had much noticeable body hair... I wax my legs and pits and that lasts a pretty good long while and the two or three hairs I get around my nipples are easy enough to pluck
Plucking my facial hair is a real pain though... I wish I'd never started shaving :P
Quote from: Britney_413 on September 28, 2010, 02:22:09 AM
It sounds to me that the person you met who said "I like being transsexual" doesn't know what that means. An MTF TS is simply a woman born in a man's body, simple. As I've stated in other threads a lot of people call themselves TSs and wear it like a badge of honor, something that is different and special, parade it around, etc. It is ok to be happy with who you are as it gives you self esteem and purpose in life. However, if someone is truly a woman in a man's body I don't see why they would be acting any differently than genetic women normally do. I don't even see the point to this whole thread or question. I'm sick of trans women being subjected to femininity standards that cis women would never tolerate. A TS woman is simply a woman period who just needs to change various attributes of her body. Some GGs have hairy armpits and some don't. If being a TS is about how girly you look, the size of your boobs, about "being trans" and comparing yourself to other "->-bleeped-<-s" then you are not a TS but a crossdresser. A TS is the same as a GG in the sense that both care about getting up in the morning and going to work. Unless the issue discussed is strictly the ability to pass well, I'm growing increasingly wary of "TSs" whose focus is looks and appearance (i.e. being feminine) as it sounds like crossdresser talk to me. It reminds me of the endless times I'm in a bar that has a lot of so-called TSs and I'm always being told how I have "no makeup on" despite that I have a pretty standard amount yet GGs will be in the same bar with absolutely no makeup and nothing would be said to them. Or why I shouldn't drink beer because that isn't girly enough. So I can't understand why someone would be concerned if a TS has hairy armpits and I equally can't understand why a TS would want to be perceived as a "->-bleeped-<-" instead of just a woman.
I have to say that statements such as, 'An MTF TS is simply a woman born in a man's body, simple,' or, 'If being a TS is about how girly you look, the size of your boobs, about "being trans" and comparing yourself to other "->-bleeped-<-s" then you are not a TS but a crossdresser' make me feel pretty uncomfortable.
I don't think that any of us have the right to tell another person how she should or should not express her gender. There is no right or wrong way to be transsexual, any more than there's a right or wrong way to be male or female.
Some people define themselves very clearly as women who happen to have been born with male bodies, others may feel that their gender is more ambiguous, or that they are proud to define themselves as 'trans' ... I have spent my entire life wrestling with my own gender definition. I am very clearly built like a man physically, have many male traits and have no trouble at all 'passing' successfully as a man in virtually all but the most intimate circumstances. So I could not honestly claim to be a woman, as I am. Yet I have felt all my life that I would be more comfortable and natural living as a woman and I have all the medical/psychiatric clearance I need to transition, provided by eminent specialists who have known and treated me for years.
I am very definitely not a ->-bleeped-<-: I am frustrated rather than aroused by wearing women's clothing because it simply underlines that I still have a male rather than female body. But when or if I transition, I will certainly want to dress as nicely as possible, look my best and, yes, shave my armpits. But this is a cultural thing as much as a gender one. Many French women would traditionally have been aghast at the idea of shaving their armpits, since they believe that the scent of a female armpit contains pheremones that arouse their men and they'd rather have great sex than smooth pits.
My point is, we should live and let live ... the outside world gives us all enough sh*t to deal with without adding to it amongst ourselves.
I want to second Carlita's response.
1) See rule 10 of Susan's Terms of service:
Rule10. Bashing or flaming of any individuals or groups is not acceptable behavior on this web site and will not be tolerated in the slightest for any reason. This includes but is not limited to:
- Advocating the separation or exclusion of one or more group from under the Transgender umbrella term
- Suggesting or claiming that one segment or sub-segment of our community is more legitimate, deserving, or more real than any others
In other words, it is not for any of us to say who is and who is not transsexual, transgendered, etc.
2) Shaving armpits is a cultural thing. As Carlita pointed out, many women in the world don't shave their armpits and may even think naked armpits are gross. I had my armpits lasered so that they are hairless because that is what I like. My 36 year-old daughter has never shaved her armpits as far as I know and has no trouble attracting men (her preference). To each her own.
3) The comment about liking being a TS may be a throwaway line – she just didn't want to discuss her armpits. Or she may have found her comfort zone being openly TS for now. I don't think that we should criticize another for coping with her gender issues as she sees fit.
- Kate
Well I for one was not saying that any one group or segment of people are better/worse than any other. And I posted because it confused me, and I was hoping for a clearer understanding. ONe reason i didnt and still dont understand was when she said she likes being a transexual, because I have always considered myself to be transgender,,,thats all
I don't like being a transsexual or even transgender but I am one too.
And will have to live with it until I get this body fixed or I die trying.
But I don't want to share this with the world either.
No offense but I really don't understand why anyone would WANT to be in the wrong body for there gender and be STRUGGLE to fix it.
Jillieann