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Title: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: juliemac on September 26, 2010, 07:48:51 AM
So who did you see (or will see)..
I went to Dr. Pinchon
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: ggina on September 26, 2010, 09:29:15 AM
err, is this about srs or ffs or both? :)

I'm considering Dr. Chettawut next year for ffs. Anytime I wrote him an email asking some things he answered only in a few days and was usually short but informative. Also the case studies displayed on his site are impressive. Might not be as sexy as Suporn's results (dr. Chet seems to be more conservative) but it's certainly very good for the price :) Never yet seen him personally though.

So Julie, what do you think about Dr. Pinchon? Never heard the name.

g
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: keriB on September 26, 2010, 12:06:04 PM
Seriously considering Supporn.... I like their aftercare.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: NatalieRene on September 26, 2010, 10:30:19 PM
Quote from: keriB on September 26, 2010, 12:06:04 PM
Seriously considering Supporn.... I like their aftercare.
I'm considering him too. The price is affordable and everyone seems to have good things to say about him.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Tammy Hope on September 27, 2010, 12:13:33 AM
I'm all but convinced that if i can swing it, if i ever get SRS i want to go to Bankok for it. The thing is, I'd love to see somesort of comparative database that directly compared the various surgeons there in terms of price, track record, pluses and minuses, and so forth.

there's probably some Wiki pages that would help but a side-by-side comparison would be helpful for my fantasizing... :)
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: NatalieRene on September 27, 2010, 12:23:07 AM
Quote from: Tammy Hope on September 27, 2010, 12:13:33 AM
I'm all but convinced that if i can swing it, if i ever get SRS i want to go to Bankok for it. The thing is, I'd love to see somesort of comparative database that directly compared the various surgeons there in terms of price, track record, pluses and minuses, and so forth.

there's probably some Wiki pages that would help but a side-by-side comparison would be helpful for my fantasizing... :)

I agree. I've been researching them all and Thailand is very affordable and Supporn's site has some good results listed. They have a self lubricating option that with recovery time is still under $11,000! That's $6000 less then just the surgeons fee for a regular srs surgery not including hospital fees. It seems like the only affordable option for me.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: adaralove on September 27, 2010, 12:55:32 AM
I'd like to go to Bangkok but there are a couple issue to consider, 1- is that even though Bangkok is about 10K cheaper you have add airfare , hotel, spending cash or about -4-5K so for 5-6k saving I am not so sure I would travel so far from home but I may just do it also I am afraid if there are any complications and I don't speak the language and all the unknown that goes along..
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: NatalieRene on September 27, 2010, 10:20:04 AM
Yeah you're right the air line ticket will be really expensive. $4531.20 is what I just found on United. I hadn't thought about that. That cost is huge! Although the hotel there they recommend is something like $42 or $47 a night which isn't that bad. You'd have more expensive in patient fees in a hospital in the States.

So lodging would be about $400, transportation $4531, and the operation about $8000 give or take. You're right that is like $13,000 and not that much cheaper then going to Pennsylvania or Canada to get the operation done.

I don't know that I would rule Thailand out though. It's in the same ballpark of cost but it still remains that I'm hoping to compare the results with everyone else. The hard part though is finding out what the success percentage is. No one ever wants to talk about how many times they ran into complications.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: adaralove on September 27, 2010, 10:59:32 AM
I have 2 friends who have both gone to Sunporn in Thailand, he is not in Bangkok but a little further away I was told anyhow they both told me are very happy with the results.
One had to go back for a revision 3 months later but still happy with the result.
But I am a bit of a wimp if you will and I think if If the difference is about 5-6k I would stay home where I know my surroundings.
I also had a friend who went to Montreal and she is very happy with it. SRS is in my near future but probably not until next summer. Im on day 6 of FFS recovery Im flat broke now LOL..
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Tammy Hope on September 27, 2010, 12:49:05 PM
$4531??????????!?!!!!?!?!!!!!!!!

SERIOUSLY?

that's...about 3 times what I'd guessed.

Ok, fine. So maybe i won't.

It's not the price of the trip to do it, mind you - anything under $15K in all is reasonable. it's the thought that if i ever had to go back i'd have to spend that much for a revision or whatever - THAT is highly intimidating.

*sigh*
It's always something...
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: tracya1980 on September 27, 2010, 03:31:49 PM
I reccommend Dr Suporn.  I am a Suporn graduate :).  I am 4 1/2 years post op.  I love my results and I am also orgasmic.  Although my fiance is aware that I am a post op girl, he says that if I had not told him, he probably would not have known, except for the fact that I am non lubricating and require lube, but that could have been explained away.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: mmelny on September 27, 2010, 03:45:12 PM
I went to Dr Suporn.   I like him so much, I'm going back for a revision in January!

Joking aside, even though I'm having a revision, I wouldn't change my surgeon even if I could.  My irregularities could have happened with any surgeon, and are just cosmetic.   Besides, I'm using the first 4 days of the trip, in Pattaya, to get my PADI scuba diving cert!   Life could definitely suck more :P

Take Care,
Melan

Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Tammy Hope on September 27, 2010, 03:53:22 PM
those who have been can confirm that the travel costs are indeed that high? there's no backdoor way to get there cheaper?
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: NatalieRene on September 27, 2010, 04:00:21 PM
Quote from: Tammy Hope on September 27, 2010, 03:53:22 PM
those who have been can confirm that the travel costs are indeed that high? there's no backdoor way to get there cheaper?
I haven't been there but yeah that is the price that United listed today for a flight there from Washington Dulles airport to be booked in August 2011 from today. It might vary based on your origination flight but not very much. Save your frequent flier milage and it would make it cheaper. Maybe check often and you might stumble upon a sale. I didn't check the prices of the other carriers, maybe there are cheaper one's then United.

Edit:

It might also be cheaper at different times in the year.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: lucynikki on September 27, 2010, 04:31:37 PM
I am going to see Dr Suporn his work is amazing and a good price compared to UK surgeons.
Dr Chettawuy is a good cheaper option, I see it as SRS is a once and most important surgery on my body and I want a fully healthy sex life after, £10,000 is cheap for that (in my  opinion)

Cost of flight is approx £500-530
hotel for 22 Days approx after 8 days i n hospital is £600 so not to bad.

I have seen his work, 2 women showed  me, and they had depth, sensation and appearance, one women was in a relationship with a guy totaly stealth and he never had a clue.

I seen UK work and it is not great, when I had my NHS consultancy I got 5 minutes and could barely ask questions re sensation, depth etc, just told to get gential hair electroysis, with Dr Suporn no hairs!
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Tammy Hope on September 27, 2010, 10:51:43 PM
Quote from: NatalieRene on September 27, 2010, 04:00:21 PM
I haven't been there but yeah that is the price that United listed today for a flight there from Washington Dulles airport to be booked in August 2011 from today. It might vary based on your origination flight but not very much. Save your frequent flier milage and it would make it cheaper. Maybe check often and you might stumble upon a sale. I didn't check the prices of the other carriers, maybe there are cheaper one's then United.

Edit:

It might also be cheaper at different times in the year.

Heh.

I've been on an airplane exactly two times in my life - both in 1983 (to basic in Great Lakes and back when I was released from service)

Frequent flyer is about as foreign to my experience as it gets.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Tammy Hope on September 27, 2010, 10:55:38 PM
Quote from: lucynikki on September 27, 2010, 04:31:37 PM
I am going to see Dr Suporn his work is amazing and a good price compared to UK surgeons.
Dr Chettawuy is a good cheaper option, I see it as SRS is a once and most important surgery on my body and I want a fully healthy sex life after, £10,000 is cheap for that (in my  opinion)

Cost of flight is approx £500-530
hotel for 22 Days approx after 8 days i n hospital is £600 so not to bad.

I have seen his work, 2 women showed  me, and they had depth, sensation and appearance, one women was in a relationship with a guy totaly stealth and he never had a clue.

I seen UK work and it is not great, when I had my NHS consultancy I got 5 minutes and could barely ask questions re sensation, depth etc, just told to get gential hair electroysis, with Dr Suporn no hairs!

that (500 pounds) converts to about $793, if that's one way then twice that is not quite $1600 - why the huge difference?

i mean sure, the flights might be shorter or something but not enough to account for THAT much difference.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: adaralove on September 28, 2010, 12:47:58 AM
Well I did a little research online and found a flight from Boston to Bangkok on Delta round trip for $1263
I did a date range from Feb-13-11 to March 9-11, planning surgery date ideally on Feb 17 which is my B-day and is like being re-born on that date, that leaves me 3 weeks to recover in Thailand before I come home. Hotels are about $70 x night for a decent hotel so about $450 in hotel and $1,500 spending cash which gives me about $500 a week to live on for food and drinks etc. so about $3,300 to $3,500 + cost of surgery.










Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Tammy Hope on September 28, 2010, 02:56:25 AM
Quote from: adaralove on September 28, 2010, 12:47:58 AM
Well I did a little research online and found a flight from Boston to Bangkok on Delta round trip for $1263
I did a date range from Feb-13-11 to March 9-11, planning surgery date ideally on Feb 17 which is my B-day and is like being re-born on that date, that leaves me 3 weeks to recover in Thailand before I come home. Hotels are about $70 x night for a decent hotel so about $450 in hotel and $1,500 spending cash which gives me about $500 a week to live on for food and drinks etc. so about $3,300 to $3,500 + cost of surgery.

THIS is much more what I was expecting
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: NatalieRene on September 28, 2010, 07:41:44 AM
Quote from: adaralove on September 28, 2010, 12:47:58 AM
Well I did a little research online and found a flight from Boston to Bangkok on Delta round trip for $1263
I did a date range from Feb-13-11 to March 9-11, planning surgery date ideally on Feb 17 which is my B-day and is like being re-born on that date, that leaves me 3 weeks to recover in Thailand before I come home. Hotels are about $70 x night for a decent hotel so about $450 in hotel and $1,500 spending cash which gives me about $500 a week to live on for food and drinks etc. so about $3,300 to $3,500 + cost of surgery.
Wow Delta is a lot cheaper then United! Thats huge. Thanks.

Edit:

That is unreal. At first on Delta's website it looked like they where charging for each way of the trip in a round trip package, but once I went through it all right up until I would actually have to pay the cost was quoted as $1690.90 to go from Dulles to Bangkok and back. That is a huge price difference!
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Smith on September 28, 2010, 09:28:29 AM
Sorry sista, newbie question :-*

Actually, so many information that I got, thanks, btw, does dr. supporn's hospital has electrolysis machine also?  Because, I think do electrolysis to remove the hair on the genital is important to prevent internal hair in vagina afterall.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Hannah on September 28, 2010, 10:53:36 AM
Quote from: Smith on September 28, 2010, 09:28:29 AM
Sorry sista, newbie question :-*

Actually, so many information that I got, thanks, btw, does dr. supporn's hospital has electrolysis machine also?  Because, I think do electrolysis to remove the hair on the genital is important to prevent internal hair in vagina afterall.

I think they just scrape the hair follicles off whatever skin they're using to make the depth. I don't have firsthand experience, but I think I read that on Suporn's site.

On topic:
I'm definitely considering going to Thailand. It's probably either Brassard or Suporn that I'll see, but that's a far way off. I'm not worried so much about the differences in cost; with surgery this important being happy with the results is the most important thing.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: adaralove on September 28, 2010, 10:57:26 AM
Yeah I kinda feel the same way is not like Im shopping for a car so I want the best surgeon specially SRS. I do hear most of the Sunporn girls are all orgasmic and that is a big plus on my book...
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Izumi on September 28, 2010, 12:11:34 PM
Quote from: NatalieRene on September 27, 2010, 12:23:07 AM
I agree. I've been researching them all and Thailand is very affordable and Supporn's site has some good results listed. They have a self lubricating option that with recovery time is still under $11,000! That's $6000 less then just the surgeons fee for a regular srs surgery not including hospital fees. It seems like the only affordable option for me.
Supporn's fees are now 17,000 USD starting Jan 2011 FYI.  Was 15,000 USD.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Tammy Hope on September 28, 2010, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: adaralove on September 28, 2010, 10:57:26 AM
Yeah I kinda feel the same way is not like Im shopping for a car so I want the best surgeon specially SRS. I do hear most of the Sunporn girls are all orgasmic and that is a big plus on my book...
+1
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Tammy Hope on September 28, 2010, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: Izumi on September 28, 2010, 12:11:34 PM
Supporn's fees are now 17,000 USD starting Jan 2011 FYI.  Was 15,000 USD.

I think all the Tai docs have pretty good reps in terms of results (appearance, depth, sensation) don't they?

someone in another thread said Dr. P (can't remember the specific spelling - the guy who has his jr. docs do the actual surgeries) was down around $9k...? and I thought I'd read here something referring to Dr. Chet in the 12-13 range?

Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: adaralove on September 28, 2010, 01:19:39 PM
I just got the email reply from Montreal, SRS in Montreal was quoted to me as of today $18,040 CDN or about $17,500 US. That is my other pick, Brassard or Sunporn..now I have to make a choice..



Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Smith on September 30, 2010, 11:06:13 AM
Thanks for your kind information sister Hannah :D :D :D
Quote from: Hannah on September 28, 2010, 10:53:36 AM
I think they just scrape the hair follicles off whatever skin they're using to make the depth. I don't have firsthand experience, but I think I read that on Suporn's site.

On topic:
I'm definitely considering going to Thailand. It's probably either Brassard or Suporn that I'll see, but that's a far way off. I'm not worried so much about the differences in cost; with surgery this important being happy with the results is the most important thing.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: keriB on October 03, 2010, 03:00:15 PM
I got my fee quotes from Supporn last week for both SRS and BA and he's honestly not too much cheaper than stateside when you add everything in.. Still crunching numbers.  Also, his fees are going up in 2011 by about 10% they said.  My Therapist has two people thee now....
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: juliemac on October 03, 2010, 03:11:59 PM
My tickets (return) was $1500. Thats 13 hours from NJ to Tokyo, then 6 more to Bangkok.
$45 per day at the hotel for 8 days.
Flew in sunday, surgery tuesday, at the hotel saturday. Flew out the following saturday...

Man thats a LOOOOONG flight on a doughnut...
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: kelly_aus on October 03, 2010, 03:43:08 PM
I'm also going to throw in one other thing.. There are a much larger number of reports of antibiotic resistant infections coming from hospitals in SE Asia, including Thailand, than pop up in the UK, US or Canada..

Quote from: Tammy Hope on September 28, 2010, 01:06:06 PM
I think all the Tai docs have pretty good reps in terms of results (appearance, depth, sensation) don't they?

someone in another thread said Dr. P (can't remember the specific spelling - the guy who has his jr. docs do the actual surgeries) was down around $9k...? and I thought I'd read here something referring to Dr. Chet in the 12-13 range?

I wouldn't want a student doing my op.. Assisting and observing, no problem, but I'd want and experienced guy running the show..
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: juliemac on October 03, 2010, 04:56:01 PM
Infections from asia was the main topic of discussion when I ended up at a plastic surgeon here in the US.
Scary stuff.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Izumi on October 04, 2010, 11:15:10 AM
Quote from: juliemac on October 03, 2010, 04:56:01 PM
Infections from asia was the main topic of discussion when I ended up at a plastic surgeon here in the US.
Scary stuff.

I am sure if you stay longer then a week (most say 3 weeks) for complications  most doctors in thailand will treat infection or any other problem that may happen after surgery, when i go, i plan to stay for 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: kelly_aus on October 04, 2010, 02:54:53 PM
Quote from: Izumi on October 04, 2010, 11:15:10 AM
I am sure if you stay longer then a week (most say 3 weeks) for complications  most doctors in thailand will treat infection or any other problem that may happen after surgery, when i go, i plan to stay for 3 weeks.

Infection can happen anywhere, the issue is that there is a higher incidence of antibiotic resistant infections..
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Izumi on October 04, 2010, 03:59:15 PM
Quote from: kelly_aus on October 04, 2010, 02:54:53 PM
Infection can happen anywhere, the issue is that there is a higher incidence of antibiotic resistant infections..

Why would there be a higher instance rate for Thailand doctors then any other, i would think it would be about the same, unless you pick a quack doctor.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: kelly_aus on October 04, 2010, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: Izumi on October 04, 2010, 03:59:15 PM
Why would there be a higher instance rate for Thailand doctors then any other, i would think it would be about the same, unless you pick a quack doctor.

There is a higher rate of reported antibiotic resistant infections such as VRSA and MRSA coming from SE Asia as a whole currently, not just Thailand. Whether this is caused by a reduced access to more current treatments or something else requires further research. It can happen even with non 'quacks'. There are resistant strains of bacteria floating around many places in the US, Canada, UK and Australia too, just less reported cases of them. I'm currently unable to find a link to the data that doesn't require a paid subscription.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: mmelny on October 04, 2010, 07:07:54 PM

Quote from: kelly_aus on October 04, 2010, 04:56:45 PM
There is a higher rate of reported antibiotic resistant infections such as VRSA and MRSA coming from SE Asia as a whole currently, not just Thailand. Whether this is caused by a reduced access to more current treatments or something else requires further research. It can happen even with non 'quacks'. There are resistant strains of bacteria floating around many places in the US, Canada, UK and Australia too, just less reported cases of them. I'm currently unable to find a link to the data that doesn't require a paid subscription.


So what does that mean?   That there's a lotteries chance we'll contract antibiotic-resistant 28-days-later type mutations if we choose to goto Thailand for surgeries?  Or that there is a slight elevated risk of getting such?  Please, one with the access, relate this :)

As someone that has a paid ticket, and reserved hospital bed waiting for her there, in 3 months, I'd like to hear more about what you have to say about this, and why you say this?

Melan
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: juliemac on October 04, 2010, 07:46:40 PM
Quote from: ggina on September 26, 2010, 09:29:15 AM
err, is this about srs or ffs or both? :)
So Julie, what do you think about Dr. Pinchon? Never heard the name.

Bangkok Plastic Surgery in the heart of down town. Small clinic, really nice people.
As for the surgery? Nice result.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Muffin on October 04, 2010, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: juliemac on October 03, 2010, 04:56:01 PM
Infections from asia was the main topic of discussion when I ended up at a plastic surgeon here in the US.
Scary stuff.

yep......ok. *goes into the other room to lmao in private*.
Title: Re: Surgeons in Bangkok
Post by: Izumi on October 05, 2010, 11:12:29 AM
Quote from: kelly_aus on October 04, 2010, 04:56:45 PM
There is a higher rate of reported antibiotic resistant infections such as VRSA and MRSA coming from SE Asia as a whole currently, not just Thailand. Whether this is caused by a reduced access to more current treatments or something else requires further research. It can happen even with non 'quacks'. There are resistant strains of bacteria floating around many places in the US, Canada, UK and Australia too, just less reported cases of them. I'm currently unable to find a link to the data that doesn't require a paid subscription.


Still, you run a risk no matter where you go.  The best surgeon in the world can get complications, no doctor has a 100% track record unless they did 1 patient heh, and stopped without incident maybe.  Basically no matter where you go there  is risk involved as this is a major surgery.  I will minimize what i can by staying 3 weeks in case of complications next year.