OK girls, I am going to make you feel real good about the size of your hands. Mine are huge. Bigger then most guys. I was driving down the freeway a while ago. My daughter and one of her fiends were in the back seat. As we passed a car you could see a man had his hand resting just outside his window. My daughter's friend says "look that guys got hands like your dad". GRRR ! >:(
I know there have been posts about how long the average fingers are. Actually long slender fingers are quite feminine. But what about girth? How do you measure that? Well I think I know how. ::) remember this isn't a competition so be honest.
What you do is, get two bowls . The first one has to be big enough for your fist to fit in , up side down. Up to the first wrinkle on your wrist . ( If you don't have a wrinkle on your wrist your disqualified , just kid'n, I love you anyways :)). The second bowl should be larger then the first but it doesn't have to be as deep e.g a pie tin. Place the first bowl inside the second. Now carefully fill the first bowl with water all the way to the top, in fact fill it till just a little water trickles over the top. Now place your fist up-side-down in the first bowl up to the first wrinkle, let the water run over the top into the second bowl. Hold your hand steady til the water stops flowing over the top. Remove your hand, take the first bowl out of the second. Now pour the water that is in the second bowl into a measuring cup.
I will be first. I am a whopping 16 oz.
BTW any suggestions. I have heard large clunky bracelets ?? anything else?
Erocse
Does anyone ever actually notice if we have big hands? I mean it seems to be something people look for if they clock you. It does not actually detract from passing. That is my theory anyway.
My advice, get a woman with large breasts... ;)
what's an oz ???
It must just be dysphoria showing through. But when I see myself in the mirror, I think I should just paint them red , put the word "STOP" across them and go get myself a job as a crossing guard. :)
Just being funny. I try to make light of something that I find bothers Me. :D
;)Erocse
oz is the Abbreviation for ounce
Quote from: Nicky on September 29, 2010, 08:36:04 PM
Does anyone ever actually notice if we have big hands? I mean it seems to be something people look for if they clock you. It does not actually detract from passing. That is my theory anyway.
My advice, get a woman with large breasts... ;)
what's an oz ???
Yes, people do notice. I've been told by several people that they didn't know I was trans but pegged my partner because of her hand size. In fact after I started T I got facial hair really fast, so I passed constantly. When I tell people I'm trans I have to actually convince them it's true. Only once have I had someone tell me they knew I was trans since I began HRT and she said it was because my hands are small.
I even thought one of my coworkers may be trans when I first started my new job because she has large hands, granted I'm trans and have a MTF partner so I do notice these things more than the average person. Imagine my shock when she showed me a family picture of her sister, herself and her daughter... all 3 HUGE women. I mean seriously huge, not fat at all, just tall and built very much like men. Honestly, they'd make a lot of you women feel better about things like shoulders, hands and height lol.
Quote from: erocse on September 29, 2010, 09:04:23 PM
It must just be dysphoria showing through. But when I see myself in the mirror, I think I should just paint them red , put the word "STOP" across them and go get myself a job as a crossing guard. :)
Just being funny. I try to make light of something that I find bothers Me. :D
;)Erocse
oz is the Abbreviation for ounce
I feel you sister mine are 8 inches from wrist to tip and 4-4 1/4 inches in width.
I would think, if you spend some time on preparing the skin and nails and use some appropriste jewlery, together with confidence, there should be a problem.
If you think about it, there is only a problem for those that find it a problem.
Quote from: tori319 on September 29, 2010, 09:52:25 PM
I feel you sister mine are 8 inches from wrist to tip and 4-4 1/4 inches in width.
Mine are about the same, and thick as heck. I have to remember, when my wife asks for me to help her in the garden, move some large rocks. Not to walk over and pick them up, one in each hand. Like I'm palming a couple of basketballs. Then maybe the muscle might get smaller. :D
huge hugs, with my huge hands, Erocse :)
I too stress about my hands! And yes, as most people mention it is probably just me worrying unduly. There is so much variance in GG's... it's hard to tell what's in my mind and what is a real concern!
I did try this little experiment, and came out at 14 oz. I went a little further in than the first wrist wrinkle and didn't notice right away (I had a hair elastic on my wrist I took off just before trying, and went to the line it left instead :-\). Between the slight over dip and the fact that I still need to lose 50lbs, I'm thinking it might actually be 13 in a best case scenario. 8 inches wrist to tip, and just a shade under 4 inches in width however...
-Gwen
Quote from: Gwenhyvar on September 30, 2010, 08:40:24 AM
I did try this little experiment, and came out at 14 oz. I went a little further in than the first wrist wrinkle and didn't notice right away (I had a hair elastic on my wrist I took off just before trying, and went to the line it left instead :-\). Between the slight over dip and the fact that I still need to lose 50lbs, I'm thinking it might actually be 13 in a best case scenario. 8 inches wrist to tip, and just a shade under 4 inches in width however...
-Gwen
See now doesn't that make you feel a little better, mine are 20% larger. :)
I don't know why, I'm not that huge of a person, 5'-10 1/2. I don't let it get me down. I did however see a GG in the store the other day that had hands like mine. :)
Erocse
Quote from: spacial on September 30, 2010, 05:19:41 AM
I would think, if you spend some time on preparing the skin and nails and use some appropriste jewlery, together with confidence, there should be a problem.
If you think about it, there is only a problem for those that find it a problem.
There's some good advice. Well manicured nails and feminine jewelry should help distract from their size. People see long nails and automatically associate them with female hands.
There a lot of GGs that have to live with "man hands". As many have said rings, bracelets, long nails and nail polish will help to distract from their actual size.
That sounds complicated ???
Instead I am using tori319's method.
6.5 inches from wrist to the tip of my middle finger, and 2.5 inches around at the base of my middle finger. I'd say I have very slender and healthy hands. But that comes from 13 years of playing the piano and guitar. They tend to be vainy and and sort of muscular because of that.
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there is my hand next to a cd for reference. I know my nails are filthy, I just got done doing a bunch of house chores.
Edit:
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Here is a junky diagram I made to show how I measured my hand.
geez, I don't have a measuring cup :) But have a ruler! 7" long and 3.4" wide at the part where the 4 fingers join the palm. (6ft tall) btw, where did you measure width?
I have a strange relationship with them, kinda love/hate. err, I never really love them but certainly there are times when I don't hate them :) What I never did like is they're very wide compared to the 2.2" wide wrists so they kind of stick out like a pair of shovels. A female palm for these wrists would be around 2.7-3" wide. And it's weird also because the fingers themselves are very thin so I have lots of space between the fingers, it's just doesn't explain why did they need such a wide palm at all :) Genetics, so stupid...
And I still have some very visible muscles on the side of the palm and around the thumb so when the 'mones take care of that it should look a bit more feminine but the bone width won't change. Or will it? I've heard some people got smaller feet during therapy by somehow the bones/joints moving closer to each other or something. If this can happen, it can happen with the hands too, as they're built similarly, small bones and lots of joints.
I used to say it's not about size but proportions (HAVE to say that all the time because of my height :) ), eg. if you have a strong bone structure overall with larger wrists then that 16oz shouldn't look big. I'd be careful with very long nails and colorful polish though, if you don't want to attract too much attention to them.
Overall, my male relatives with similar height have much larger hands and mine are very close to my mother's (talk about coincidence) so should consider myself lucky I guess :)
g
I'm curious about something, what if we get some of the FTM guys in on this topic. We can compare! If we all are comfortable with posting our height/weight then we can compare the size of our hands to someone else of similar size from the opposite birth gender. I know this may be hard, we need some people to be honest and hopefully we can find some matches to compare.
I'm about 5'6 and weigh about 140lbs. If anyone is a match for me I'd be happy to play along :)
Also any suggestions for someone who may not be able to do the whole long nails thing? Some other way to do your nails I mean, obviously the jewelry and other options are still in existence lol. My fiancee works on cars, not really something that fake/long nails help with but I know she'd like to find some ways to detract from the size of her hands :(
Not a bad idea! I'm 6'2", and *gasp* 225 lbs (right now!). I've lost 10 pounds in the last few weeks and am aiming for another 50 in the next few months. Index finger is dead middle between 2.5 and 2.75 (I guess that makes it 2.625 LOL)
-Gwen
Quote from: Gwenhyvar on September 30, 2010, 04:32:44 PM
Not a bad idea! I'm 6'2", and *gasp* 225 lbs (right now!). I've lost 10 pounds in the last few weeks and am aiming for another 50 in the next few months. Index finger is dead middle between 2.5 and 2.75 (I guess that makes it 2.625 LOL)
-Gwen
Ugh, silly numbers. I've been dealing with that all week (numbers I mean). We get bonuses on our paychecks depending on performance, while I earned one this month I didn't get it because I was at an average of 44.752 hours and you have to have an average of 45 hours.... really? Really now?
Stupid numbers. How about we all make ourselves feel better, ladies round down, guys round up lol.
Samantha, I thought width is something that can be measured with a ruler :) What you're talking about is more like circumference... Sorry I'm a mathematician, had to point that out :)
But as much as I hate numbers (I had pretty much enough of them in school), I measured and got 2.5" for the middle one. It's interesting, I never would've thought this number can be so big, they seem much thinner than that...
And to Cowboi: I rounded down :)
g
5'7, 150lbs. 7" long from first crease on the wrist, 3" wide, middle finger 2.5" circumference. Strange how everything on my body seems to come out to these neat round numbers...didn't know my hands knew what an inch was :)
Quote from: ggina on October 01, 2010, 03:41:17 PM
Samantha, I thought width is something that can be measured with a ruler :) What you're talking about is more like circumference... Sorry I'm a mathematician, had to point that out :)
You know... You're absolutely right. And now that you mention it I should have recognized that sooner. Oh well, live and learn, I'll try not to make such an elementary mistake again ;D
Quote from: spacial on September 30, 2010, 05:19:41 AM
I would think, if you spend some time on preparing the skin and nails and use some appropriste jewlery, together with confidence, there should be a problem.
If you think about it, there is only a problem for those that find it a problem.
Great reply, I use to be self conscious of my hands years ago, but I was the only person that found it a problem as they are slightly on the large size, but over the years getting manicures and getting my nails done, wearing nail polish, maybe pink lol my favorite color, apart from the size, which nobody seems to notice, my hands are now very very feminine.
As for men, they never look at my hands, too busy looking and talking to my 36DD boobs, staring at my cleavage, never seem to notice my hands, only a minor detail.
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9'' long, 4'' wide.
But I guess that's proportionate to my UK9 shoes and my 6'1 height :4
Guy hands are like a knuckle wider and the arms just under a hand longer on average than ladies of the same height if I remember back to an Engineering Psychology class from ages ago. There are charts on it if you are that interested. But remember those are averages so the extremes will overlap.
What this means is dress to complement what you have and realize that only a handful of folks will have the data accurate enough to get it right. And, if they are that good, it may be due to a non-casual interest.
-mS
Well, I'm not sure that anyone so far has actually had really big 'guy hands' ... I mean, I take a man's medium glove and my hands are almost exactly the same size as my wife who is 5'6" and very slender and feminine in appearance.
So anyway, I measured my left hand and it came out at about 7.5" long (maybe a little more: I wasn't entirely sure where on my wrist to start from) and 4" wide ... which is pretty much the same size as all the girls worrying about their 'STOP sign' hands ... And my best male friend's wife was only the other day pointing out how much thicker her wrists were than mine, and no one would ever mistake her for a man.
So I think this is another one of those things that we are super-conscious of, but that disappear as an issue of ones presentation as a whole is confident and female ... Yes, pretty nails will make a big difference ... And of course, Pauline is right. Guys aren't ever going to waste time checking out a girl's hands ... not as long as she has boobs to look at instead! ;)
Thanks for this post you just made me paranoid, lol Had to go and measure my hands.
Left and right hands the same, 7inchs long, 3inches wide and middle finger 2 1/2 inches in circumference. My hands look fairly slim as do my fingers. I'm also only 5ft 5 1/2 inches tall. I did worry about my hands to start with but I saw many women's hands like mine so I stopped worrying until this post, (na only kidding, lol).
Stardust
That's weird, my hands have different proportions. o_o
6'1" 170 lbs
Left: 7.25" from first wrist crease, 3.5" wide at base of the fingers, 2" circumference of middle finger
Right: 7.5" from first wrist crease, 3.25" wide at base of the fingers, 2.1" circumference of middle finger
I don't worry about my hands much though because they're the same size as my sister and mom, both of whom are at least 4" shorter than I am. Nails definitely help very much with the appearance :) I'm finally almost over my lifelong nail-biting habit and my hands already look WAY better.
8.25 long, 3.25 wide. I measured from the tip of the middle finger to the first crease, and at the palmar crease below the knuckles.
I'm 6'4ish (varies by up to 4 inches) and weigh about 210 lbs right now. I only had a hard ruler, I can add circumference later.
I'm inclined to say that in general women do have smaller, slimmer hands than men but the two attractive women in the post office have decidely unattractive hands...dunno why.
Quote from: lilacwoman on October 02, 2010, 03:48:32 PM
I'm inclined to say that in general women do have smaller, slimmer hands than men.
Well whatever, maybe in the majority of women, I don't like to be reminded of anything that takes my confidence away, in this past year since my Fiancé and I got engaged, my left hand has been the centre of attention because of my engagement ring, just women in general who Id meet in a ladies room and notice my engagement ring, wishing me luck, and making a wish on my ring, a nice old lady took my hand and just admired my ring even telling me how soft my hands are, I also get nice complements on my nails, I keep my hands soft and silky and my nails looking pretty. On my wedding day I wore a pair of lace elbow length bridal gloves with a finger exposed design to show off my beautiful ring and nails, the front side of the gloves had a pretty pink bow on the wrist, my hands looked totally feminine and pretty, yes my hands maybe on the slightly big side, but nobody in all the years since I transition has ever made a comment or a remark on the size of my hands, its a none issue, just my 2cents.
Hugs
Pauline
In the interests of comparison I'm 5'9" (ish), 140lbs (10 stone) and my hands are 7 inches from the wrist, 3" wide and 2.5" circumference round the base of my middle finger. I've had a couple of female friends complain that my hands are more feminine than theirs.
In the interests of comparison I'm 5'10" (ish), 168lbs and my hands are 7 inches from the wrist, 3" wide and 2.5" circumference round the base of my middle finger. ( My Hands are the same size as Helena's ). ;D
Quote from: Janet Lynn on October 02, 2010, 06:28:31 PM
In the interests of comparison I'm 5'10" (ish), 168lbs and my hands are 7 inches from the wrist, 3" wide and 2.5" circumference round the base of my middle finger. ( My Hands are the same size as Helena's ). ;D
Same size as mine too :) We're hand triplets!
3 way high five! :D
*High Fives*
This is a picture from a couple months ago. But I can barely fit a iphone in my hand. I was picked on for having girly hands when I was in high school. I was picked on once by a cousin for having large hands but I've since figured out she was really picking on my insecurities of passing.
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Quote from: NatalieRene on October 02, 2010, 07:56:05 PM
This is a picture from a couple months ago. But I can barely fit a iphone in my hand. I was picked on for having girly hands when I was in high school. I was picked on once by a cousin for having large hands but I've since figured out she was really picking on my insecurities of passing.
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I'm very envious of those long pretty nails
Really? It's a never ending battle with them flaking and I have to keep trimming them. I have to be real careful how I use my hands now. It's hard upkeep.
I guess I can go ahead and measure mine. From my wrist the length of my hand is 7 inches long and three inches of that is my middle finger length. My palm is three inches wide and my middle finger has a circumference of 2.3 inches. I'm not quite five foot eight but my height is stuck as reading five foot ten inches on my id because while keeping up the charade about being male I exaggerated my height to the dmv and now I can't very well take it back now.
A funny thing about body dysphoria. I went out for the first time En femme, Yesterday.
(Yippee for Me!! :). but that's another story on a different post)
Anyways, I swear . My hands look much smaller today and more feminine since going out. :o
Erocse
Mine's big too, 8.5 inches long and 4.5 wide, long nails help a bit.
Wow I am the exact match of Janet.
I'm 5'10", 168lbs. Hands are 7 inches from the wrist, 3" wide and 2.5" circumference round the base of my middle finger.
My hands are the size of the average female who are 5'9 (I am 5'7). I actually like looking at my hands and comparing it to the average male, since there is a size difference.
It is not too much of a concern, besides the appearance, since they look almost identical to the females in my family.
My concern is more on the shoulders, but not too much.
I could pass, not a doubt.
I have a bear's hands - wide and short in comparison.
17 cm (7 inches) long and 11 cm (4,3 inches) wide.
I feel a little better. I guess misery loves company? :laugh: I just measured mine and they are 3.5" at the very widest and 7.5" long. I am 5'11" and about 200 lb and I have lost 45 lbs. since May 1st. I just bought 34" waist mens jeans for the first time in 18 years and it felt great! Gotta love that ADHD medication... ;D
How much does HRT affect the hands? If I lost some of the muscle on the side of my hands as well as between my thumb and index finger, I think I could have pretty nice hands. My finger nails are kinda wide though which makes it hard to find nice nails but the nails sure make my hands look nicer!
Misery really does L-O-V-E, love company. I'm 5'11", my hands are 7.5" long, 3.75" wide and my middle finger between the first and second knuckle is 2.75" in circumference. Also, I'm 149lbs, and I hope to lose some of it. If I lose some weight, I might be able to lose some small portion of the mass in my hand, and hopefully see my shoe size come down even just a little from a 11.5/12 wide.
Probably like you all, I look at other women, admiring them and thinking about what is normal on women and how I am not normal for a woman as a mtf ts. But I have noticed some other women, not a lot who have large strong hands. I know of one women in my church who is taller and she has hands as large as I do. Maybe not as fat as she is thin, but she also has large feet too. So we tend to look at the dainty pretty girls and think they are all like that, but they are not. There are some women who have larger hands too!
Amelia
I seem to have larger hands than many most of my male friends. Then again, I am taller than them, so I find some solace in that.
In Limbo I love your new Avatar. You are looking good. :)
OK, I have learned a little trick. And yes hrt does reduce the size, well at least reduce the muscle mass.
If your hands have had a hard life, as mine have. Put a little foundation on them before you go out. Good foundation lasts pretty long and it will make your hands not stand out so much, while covering scares and maybe pronounced veins you may have.
OK, I will make you feel good about yourself again. I am 5'10. Which isn't too bad. Although when I go out in heels and into the restroom I am immediately reminded of why they call it "the little girls room", :laugh:
Anyway. If I stretch my arms out in each direction. My reach is 75" (from tip of middle finger to tip of other) I think I got most you beat !!!! And no my knuckles do not drag on the ground . :laugh:
And I have large hands, but you know... I'm OK with all that, Life is good !!! :) :)
@ Mrs Erocse: Thanks for the compliment Mrs Erocse! Oh, and by the way, you and Erocse are such a cute looking couple.
@ Erocse: The foundation applied to the hands, cool idea. I wonder if that trick could be used for forearms too. I used to have veiny arms and hands, but that's pretty much gone now. Compared to other women, we are amazionian. :D "The little girls' room" just made me laugh. So true.
The foundation does help on the hands and forarms even. I have a little bit of psoriasis on my elbow and knuckles (which is almost gone thanks to Humira! Love that stuff) and it helps vastly with the appearance.
I am so happy to see Erocse and Mrs. Erocse posting again. I was afraid that you would disappear for a while after the horrible thing that Erocse's brothers did. You two are a great asset to this community and you would be very much missed if you left. How has being outed worked out? I imagine that it is horrific and traumatic but I see where not having to hide could be a relief in the end though. Anyways, I hope it all works out for the best and I just want to give you a big hug! :-)
Thank you Stacy, We are both glad to be here.
Funny I never had Psoriasis until I stared hrt. I got it on my elbows too. I know that Psoriasis came be caused by high hormone levels. But I was Ok with that. After nine months I started Progesterone and the Psoriasis went away. I cycle progesterone so my Psoriasis comes back every time I am off progesterone and it goes away when I am on it.
Hugs, Erocse
Ask your doctor for clobetasol ointment and use it at the first sign of an outbreak. Treat it agressively or it will just get worse! They even make the clobetasol in a foam mouse that works good if it gets in your scalp. I guess HRT could agravate it because you don't have as much oil in your skin. Don't mess with anything over the counter or any snakeoil sold on the internet as it's all a waste of money.
Mine is well under control since I started taking the Humira early this year. Thank (the diety of your choice) that I have decent medical insurance as cost about $1,000 a month for bi-weekly injections... The drug manufacturer even picks up the copay so I'm pretty lucky.
I have smallish hands, but I'm always destroying them by crack climbing. I hope they'll reduce their size in breadth once I'm on HRT. That and my arms and shoulders. I think those are my most manly attributes.
Quote from: LightBulbs on November 11, 2010, 06:51:01 PM
hmm... 5ft11" 126lbs and 7x3" hands that are VEINY AS HELL (in heat).
Not only that, but DRY AS HELL. Plus I hate moisturising.
I have to breath onto them before putting them to a piano, otherwise they slip around all over the place.
This is off-topic, but important ... if you are 5'11" and weigh 126lbs, your Body Mass Index is 17.6, which is underweight. You won't come to any harm if you stay at or above that level, but drop much below it and you could be entering the point where there start to be quite serious health implications. I know this is none of my business ... but someone very close to be nearly died because of an eating disorder and during the several months she spent in hospital I got to know a lot of other patients and their families and saw the devastation that excessive weight-loss can cause, not just to the person suffering it, but also to their loved ones who have to watch the person they love becoming emaciated before their eyes.
So I guess what I'm saying is, please be careful and look after yourself, or hands will be the least of your worries.
OK, I'll butt out now ...
My fingers are kinda thick and short..well...not short but not as long as many women I see. My hands are only 6 inches from wrist to tip of the middle finger though! Every girl I've compared to has same or bigger hands than I do ._.