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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: losthighway on November 03, 2010, 06:31:54 PM

Title: full head of hair after t?
Post by: losthighway on November 03, 2010, 06:31:54 PM
has anyone been on t for 5 years or more and still have a full head of hair?
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Lachlann on November 03, 2010, 06:47:46 PM
Max Wolf Valerio, author of the testosterone files, still has his hair. You might want to check it out.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Devyn on November 03, 2010, 07:14:59 PM
Does T really make you lose your hair?
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Arch on November 03, 2010, 07:26:28 PM
Quote from: Devyn on November 03, 2010, 07:14:59 PM
Does T really make you lose your hair?

If baldness is in your genes, yes.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Devyn on November 03, 2010, 07:34:34 PM
Quote from: Arch on November 03, 2010, 07:26:28 PM
If baldness is in your genes, yes.

Well...I don't think baldness is in my genes... I haven't paid attention to that. I should now.

How quickly would you lose your hair? How many months/years on testosterone?
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Kilo on November 03, 2010, 07:36:47 PM
I do lol...I keep my head shaved, pretty much bald because it works out well for me but if I did choose to grow it out, I still have a lot of hair. Been on T for a little over 5 years now.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Arch on November 03, 2010, 07:43:59 PM
Quote from: Devyn on November 03, 2010, 07:34:34 PM
How quickly would you lose your hair? How many months/years on testosterone?

It varies from person to person. Some people lose lots right away; some guys don't start losing till they are much older. I am losing hair--at least, I can see it in my hands when I shampoo, and I wind up with lots of loose hairs all over the bathroom. But the hair on my head doesn't seem to be actually thinning. I think my hairline is still receding, though.

I started T at 46. I'm 48 now, and I've been on it for, let's see, a year and nine months.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Carson on November 03, 2010, 08:31:59 PM
I think that it is genetics. T isn't going to make you go bald at 20 unless you have the genetics for early baldness. I am almost a year on T. I'm 19. My hair line changed to a male pattern but then stopped. My hair has actually gotten thicker. I had super thin, fine hair pre-T.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: kyril on November 03, 2010, 08:35:25 PM
Quote from: Lachlann on November 03, 2010, 06:47:46 PM
Max Wolf Valerio, author of the testosterone files, still has his hair. You might want to check it out.
He does have one heck of a receding hairline, though.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: jet3 on November 03, 2010, 09:54:33 PM
I havent been on T for 5 years so hopefully i still have my hair then! I've been on T for about 14 months and havent noticed any hair loss or thinning. My hair line changed a little bit though.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Lachlann on November 03, 2010, 11:03:30 PM
Quote from: kyril on November 03, 2010, 08:35:25 PM
He does have one heck of a receding hairline, though.

It's not that bad imo. A receding hairline of some sort is usually going to happen and at his age it's to be expected.

Plus, he's been on it for what... 20 years? I think he's doing good, lol.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: kyril on November 03, 2010, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Lachlann on November 03, 2010, 11:03:30 PM
It's not that bad imo. A receding hairline of some sort is usually going to happen and at his age it's to be expected.

Plus, he's been on it for what... 20 years? I think he's doing good, lol.
Well, I just find it discouraging that he's the poster guy for "full head of hair", given that he's receding at least as much as the average cis guy his age. I have all number of male friends in their late 30s and 40s whose hairlines haven't moved a millimeter...but have seen no out trans guys who fit that description.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Dennis on November 04, 2010, 01:09:39 AM
I've been on T since January 2005 and still have a full, thick head of hair. It receded a little at the temples, but otherwise has stayed where it was. And I'm 48. Both of my grandfathers had a full head of hair when they died and my dad started getting a little bald on the crown at 69 when he died, but otherwise had a full head of hair.

So yeah, depends on your genes. Mine give me great head hair, sucky facial hair. I have a neck beard that needs to be shaved daily and a goatee and sideburns but that's about it.

Dennis
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: kyril on November 04, 2010, 01:21:36 AM
That's really great and encouraging to hear, Dennis :)
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: JudahLiam on November 04, 2010, 06:54:33 AM
My partner has been on T for a little over 2 months and he is losing alot already, but he is also 38 and baldness is in his family. 
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Jude_ on November 04, 2010, 08:33:01 AM
I'm 18, and i've been on T for a little over 7 months.

I started losing my hair at 6 months. A LOT came out in the shower, and when i dried off my hair. Luckily, i have really thick curly hair! I think it was just my hairline changing. It receded into a more male pattern. I wouldn't say that i'm balding per se, but my hairline has definitely shifted. It has a V shape now, but it's very slight and not really noticeable unless i pull my hair back. I just went through this month where i shed a lot of hair! The amount of hair loss seems to be back to normal now.

I think a big part of all the balding concerns on T, is that many transmen start T when they are upwards of 30. That's a normal age for hair loss and thinning, so when a transman goes on T, he'll lose a ton of hair at once, as his body catches up to what it would have been had he been biologically male. I don't think going on T causes any more hair loss than what would happen had you been biologically male. It's a much more gradual process for cismen, and i think it's pretty shocking for some transmen to lose all that hair at once!

If it makes you feel any better, i know a few ftms who have been on T for years, and still have a completely full heads of hair. Of course, they are younger guys in their 20's. haha who knows what'll happen when they hit middle age :P. Matt Kailey is pretty well known in the trans community, and he still has all his hair. He's been on T for over 10 years (i can't remember the exact number), and Balian Buschbaum too. I think it probably has less to do with how long they've been on T, and more to do with their age. I dunno, it does seem like a disproportionate number of older transmen experience hair loss. Maybe it has something to do with increased levels of DHT (compared to cismen)? I really don't know.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Ryan on November 04, 2010, 12:42:08 PM
Quote from: kyril on November 03, 2010, 08:35:25 PM
He does have one heck of a receding hairline, though.
He's 53! It wouldn't be unusual for a biological man to be completely bald at this age.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: meh on November 04, 2010, 10:25:54 PM
Depends on your genes. Look at both sides of your families though not just your mom's side since the gene is carried on the x chromosome.

My roommate, cis male, is completely bald. He starting losing his hair his senior year. I knew of other cis guys losing their hair in high school as well.

I'm not sure what really determines how soon males start going bald, most likely genes too.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Theo on November 06, 2010, 04:14:09 AM
There was me hoping that balding might only start from T day and happen gradually over the years.

Weirdly I don't think it matters on anyone else at all.

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Tad on November 07, 2010, 11:13:08 AM
I know a few guys that have been on T for  a while.. not sure how many years... but a while for sure. a couple of them are in their 50's.. one has typical male pattern baldness, and one just has a slightly receding hairline.. and I don't know any bald younger guys on T.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Lee11 on November 07, 2010, 02:43:24 PM
Agree totally with the genetics thing....I know a lot of F to M's who actually gain thicker hair with test use....
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Greg on November 07, 2010, 02:47:56 PM
IDK if I have more head hair now, but my hair has certainly become coarser which might give the effect of thicker hair.
Title: Re: full head of hair after t?
Post by: Arch on November 07, 2010, 04:13:58 PM
My hair used to be super fine, almost like spidersilk. Now it is still pretty fine but noticeably coarser. I'm not sure whether this effect has anything to do with testosterone; I'm getting older, and I'm graying now.