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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Mrs Erocse on November 10, 2010, 07:35:41 PM

Title: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: Mrs Erocse on November 10, 2010, 07:35:41 PM
When I was a little girl about 11 years old I remember swinging with my friend in her family barn. I told her when I grew up I was going to move to California and get married there.
When I was 15 years old I visited friends for a month in California. We were all JW's. The family was ultra conservative. They were the witch hunt type of conservative. (I did not appreciate the realization of this then) I saw Erosce from afar. He was very beautiful with long blond hair. He was a good dresser.( Rock star beautiful)  I was an awkward young lady still coming into my own. I had a crush from afar. We did not speak to eachother and he did not know who I was.
In between I dated a few others, none to pan out. But I always asked my friends about Erosce. When I was 18 in the last quarter of my senior year my family up and moved to California. Perhaps it was April 1981. I finished my school year and got a job. Erosce's sister asked to study the bible with me. She encouraged me to feel comfortable to talk to her brother. One day my friend  and I were going to Disneyland. She was also a friend of Erosce's . She said she would ask him to go with me. I thought that the worst he could say was, "No." The time period was early Dec. We were married before the end of the next month. Twenty eight years later we are still together.
My heart is tied since the beginning of time to Erosce's and till the end of time.  I Love Erocse.

So to anyone, who may suggest I should demand that she live her life out unhappy, just to make them happy, I want to say that this is not your story. It is ours. I don't intend to be bitter or argumentive or divorced in my story. 
I will kiss Erosce when she gets home. I will give her a big, big, big, big, big, hug. I plan to live happily ever after. The finish is not for a long time. There is allot to be written in between.
I love you Erocse.
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: Jacquelyn on November 10, 2010, 07:53:54 PM
Mrs. Erosce it doesn't surprise me that you and Erosce would have such an amazingly sweet story. I am glad that you have decided to write your own story and to ensure that yours will have a happy ending. You deserve it!  :eusa_clap:

You two are just too perfect for each other. It always makes me teary just to know that such strong love does exist.

*hugs*

~Jackie
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: Janet_Girl on November 10, 2010, 07:58:53 PM
Yours is truly love story for the ages.
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: cynthialee on November 10, 2010, 09:17:30 PM
I have a soft spot for love stories.
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: Sandy on November 10, 2010, 09:38:24 PM
Quote from: cynthialee on November 10, 2010, 09:17:30 PM
I have a soft spot for love stories.

Especially ones with happy endings!

-Sandy
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: Mrs Erocse on November 10, 2010, 09:45:50 PM
It has been a rough week. I feel angry and defensive at people which never makes me feel pretty or look good. I really wanted to post and vent but I didn't want to look bad or feel bad anymore. I decided I wanted to write about something that made me feel good. I also wanted to write something that made Erocse feel good. I hope this did. Thanks for all of the encouragement and kind words everyone.
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: erocse on November 11, 2010, 01:07:54 AM
  Some might think that it was fate or maybe Divine intervention, or was it Magic, That brought us together? I am not trying to be the unromantic one here but I think it was just two kids with true love in our hearts and the willingness to work for what we find dear to us. Some years it was very difficult work for me to keep this marriage alive and well. Some years it was Mrs Erocse that kept things alive. We both have worked for many year at this job. Because of our years of experience, we have become very skilled at our job. So each morning we punch the clock . (we actually do have an old time clock at the bottom in our stairs) and we go to work. The thing is, I love my job , I love going to work everyday, and the boss... oh my god, she is the most beautiful person I have ever met.  She always lets me know when I have done a good job, I don't know, maybe a little too complimentary. It makes me feel like she is hitting on me sometimes.(well at least I hope she is)  I love it when she asks me to work overtime. I always oblige, even though I know she really doesn't need the help. She just likes it after hours, when we are alone. It's the oddest thing. She always makes me change all the light bulbs in all the rooms. Every week. You would think a light bulb would last longer then that? Even though the lights still work she wants me to change them. But it OK,she is allot of help . She holds the little stool I stand on. I wish she would get a taller stool. The one she has now is so short and I have to reach so high, I am afraid my skirt may ride up and I may expose something . But she good about it , she assures me that she won't look.

  Well I should stop rambling I need to go to work tomorrow. I have to clean the floors. I sure wish she would invest in a mop, I hate getting on my hands and knees.

   I know this economy it tough on everyone and good jobs are hard to find. But I wish for all on Susan's you will be as lucky as I am to have found such a good job and such a wonderful boss to work with.

   I LOVE YOU, PATSY, (Mrs Erocse) see you in the morning.. :-* :-*
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: Nicky on November 11, 2010, 01:14:45 AM
awwwww


awwwwwwwwwwww


you guys! you're killing me!  :icon_love:

Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: alia on November 11, 2010, 02:59:19 AM
This is like baby harp seal cuddling with golden retriever puppy cute.

Honestly I thought my lady and I were cute-puke worthy but this takes the cake.

You are the most adorable couple of all time, and I haven't even met you.
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: rejennyrated on November 11, 2010, 03:31:47 AM
Thank you both for writing this thread.

I am so sorry for everything bad that happened this week, but full of admiration for the way that you both handled yourselves and the events that followed. Now this!

This thread is a thing of beauty to all those of us who have been together for a long time. Alison and I have done 22 years so far. (Although we have only been legally married for five of them because English law would not allow a single sex relationship before then.)

When you have been deeply in love for so long, it is kind of easy to slip into the error of taking it for granted. You forget how much this wonderful other person who truly knows you and STILL loves you means. It's easy for the passion to get lost in the day to day routine of family life.

Then along comes a post like yours, and suddenly it is all back to mind! You have reminded Alison and I how much we really love each other, and how terrible it would be if we were somehow parted. When we are in bed at night and her arms are around me as she snuggles in close to my back I feel so safe, like nothing in the world can touch me.

So thank you both for reminding us of the value of true deep, and eduring love. Love which can transcend little things such as gender nominal sexual orientation (neither Alison or I were principally orientated to women before we met, and we both had active boyfriends at the time.) Yet true love such as ours and it seems yours can endure because we are true soulmates.

You are both the most lovely and fortunate people.

Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: Mrs Erocse on November 11, 2010, 09:42:40 AM
Erosce, you are my better half. I forgot the humor  :D. Thank you for adding that.

I thought about naming each of Suzans supporters individually to thank you; but I would be aghast if I forgot someone. There are sooooooooooo many of you out there and you are all so special and wonderful in being so kind to Erosce and I. I have never seen as wonderful a group as this one, bar none.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv690%2Fcdanna%2Fstolen%2520images%2Fthanks.gif&hash=dcaed0be2420b43621477e1c650cb57fa91f4d95)
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: Shang on November 11, 2010, 09:47:02 AM
Thank you for posting this!  It's really nice to see such love and caring for one another. =)
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: Janet_Girl on November 11, 2010, 10:28:50 AM
A good relationship is hard work, some days it is a blast, some days it can be a drag.  But when you get up each morning and look at that person and smile you know that it has been worth it.  My Folks were married for 54 years, and they never went to bed mad, and they would apologize even when it wasn't their fault.

Erocse and Patsy shows us that it can be done, even when something like GID comes into the relationship.  Jenny and Alison shows that it does last year after year afterwards. 

Personally, I hope that one day I will find that person where it will be a pure pleasure to share my life with.  Erocse And Mrs.Erocse, Jenny and Alison all give me hope that it is not only possible, but it does happen.
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: jamied on November 11, 2010, 11:16:33 AM
You two bring a smile to my heart.

Jamie
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: erocse on November 12, 2010, 09:53:26 AM
Quote from: Mrs Erocse on November 10, 2010, 07:35:41 PM
When I was a little girl about 11 years old I remember swinging with my friend in her family barn. I told her when I grew up I was going to move to California and get married there.
When I was 15 years old I visited friends for a month in California. We were all JW's. The family was ultra conservative. They were the witch hunt type of conservative. (I did not appreciate the realization of this then) I saw Erosce from afar. He was very beautiful with long blond hair. He was a good dresser.( Rock star beautiful)  I was an awkward young lady still coming into my own. I had a crush from afar. We did not speak to eachother and he did not know who I was.
In between I dated a few others, none to pan out. But I always asked my friends about Erosce. When I was 18 in the last quarter of my senior year my family up and moved to California. Perhaps it was April 1981. I finished my school year and got a job. Erosce's sister asked to study the bible with me. She encouraged me to feel comfortable to talk to her brother. One day my friend  and I were going to Disneyland. She was also a friend of Erosce's . She said she would ask him to go with me. I thought that the worst he could say was, "No." The time period was early Dec. We were married before the end of the next month. Twenty eight years later we are still together.
My heart is tied since the beginning of time to Erosce's and till the end of time.  I Love Erocse.

So to anyone, who may suggest I should demand that she live her life out unhappy, just to make them happy, I want to say that this is not your story. It is ours. I don't intend to be bitter or argumentive or divorced in my story. 
I will kiss Erosce when she gets home. I will give her a big, big, big, big, big, hug. I plan to live happily ever after. The finish is not for a long time. There is allot to be written in between.
I love you Erocse.
My Darling Patsy,

    If I had only known that heaven was such a beautiful place and you would be here with me . I would have died long ago.

  Love All Ways, Erocse. qzqzqzqzqzqzqz
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: rejennyrated on November 12, 2010, 04:18:05 PM
Awwwww - I'm filling up here. That is just soooooooooooo sweet!
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: Sandy on November 12, 2010, 05:33:46 PM
Do you two have any idea why we like you as much as we do?

As far as I can tell, you are probably one of the most ideal couples that have come here.

As you may have seen, most of us here are singles.  Either we have no one else to listen to us, or, some number of our acquaintances have some level of tolerance for us, but do not wish to dive in the deep end here.  Or if we do have a S.O, they are somewhere on the spectrum of accepting, but don't want to get too involved to "The last time I saw them, their ass was heading out the door!"

Just in the short time we have known you, you have shown a compassion and acceptance and understanding for each other that I, at least, have not seen before.

Now, I know we have some very understanding S.O.'s here.  And God bless you all!  You have come here to understand what your partner/spouse is going through.  This is a tough enough thing to deal with when you've had it all your life, and I can imagine that it is even tougher when it comes from someone who is very close to you.  And you may not have been aware of it when you started.

But you two have shown what it is supposed to be like.  You seem to be approaching this as simply just a bump in the road.  Just something to get past and go on with your lives.  It's a big deal, like any major life change is, but not a show stopper.

And your compassion and commitment to each other during this last horrid episode seems to have made your bond even stronger.  It seems to be you two against the world.  And I'm not betting on the world.

And frankly, I'm jealous.

Like many, my transition turned me, and everything in my life, upside down and inside out.  And by time I got done, there was a bit less of what I had, than when I started, both spiritually and materially.  And I consider myself one of the really, REALLY lucky ones, lottery ticket brand of lucky.

So Goddess/God/That Which Passeth All Understanding, continue to smile on you and keep you safe.  And I pray to the great unknown that you can continue in that love.

Most roller coaster rides are better enjoyed when shared.  And this one is a doozie!

-Sandy
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: rejennyrated on November 13, 2010, 02:48:41 AM
Quote from: Sandy on November 12, 2010, 05:33:46 PM
Like many, my transition turned me, and everything in my life, upside down and inside out.  And by time I got done, there was a bit less of what I had, than when I started, both spiritually and materially.  And I consider myself one of the really, REALLY lucky ones, lottery ticket brand of lucky.
Not to make you jealous Sandy, or indeed take anything away from our wonderful Erocses, I have to say that I too escaped all of that. I know that I have led a charmed life.

Perhaps because I transitioned so young, and found my life soulmate easily I really never experienced any of the pain or loss that goes with transition. For me transition and surgery was largely just a natural evolution which only really caused me frustration when it was temporarily halted in my teens.

Yes I did go though a number of relationships and breakups prior to Alison, but none of them was difficult, they were just part of the growing and finding myself that all youngsters go through. I would say it was just a bit more dramatic a process in my case.

Sadly I feel that I cannot post too much about our love on here, because at present Alison chooses not to be a member directly and so, to some extent, I feel I should respect her privacy, but please let no one mistake our silence on the subject for indifference or mediocrity in our relationship, or indeed Alison being standoffish. It's not that she doesn't want to be involved, it's just that she has other more pressing priorities in her life than as she puts it, "spending virtual time online".

One of the reasons why I love reading the Erocse love story so much is that it reminds me of my own life and love with Alison and it makes me see how fortunate we also have been. The reason may be different, but Alison and I also share exactly that same "compassion and acceptance and understanding for each other," and yes you are right Sandy, that is how things should be. That is how we have lasted 22 and soon going on 23 years (for 17 of which the Uk law did not allow us to be married).

And I know of several others too, many of whom are not even members here at all. So for me, what makes the Erocses so wonderful is not that they are in any way unique, but rather that they stand as a visible token of all the other successful couples out there. They are the visible tip of a surprisingly large iceberg of couples who have stood the tests of time.

We do exist, and in bigger number than most people, even some of those in this community, realise.
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: xAndrewx on November 13, 2010, 02:55:29 AM
Mrs. Erosce, I hope that one day I manage to find that type of love like you and Erosce have. Thank you for posting this and

rejennyrated: Thank you for reminding me about you and Alison. It's nice, to see the truly happy couples.


I had a five year relationship with someone and although it ended mostly due to other reasons my transition was blamed so in some ways reading about this love reminds me that someone one day will except me as myself and not that depressed shell that I used to be.
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: erocse on November 13, 2010, 06:49:06 AM
Quote from: Michael Alexander on November 13, 2010, 02:55:29 AM
Mrs. Erosce, I hope that one day I manage to find that type of love like you and Erosce have. Thank you for posting this and

rejennyrated: Thank you for reminding me about you and Alison. It's nice, to see the truly happy couples.


I had a five year relationship with someone and although it ended mostly due to other reasons my transition was blamed so in some ways reading about this love reminds me that someone one day will except me as myself and not that depressed shell that I used to be.
OMG is that really you Micheal !!!! You look great. WOW !!!

   I feel confident a person such as yourself will find someone. Just remember to love yourself and let yourself be loved. Just as I have to remind myself to now and then.


   Hugs an love, Erocse
Title: Re: My Destiny and Erosce.....
Post by: xAndrewx on November 13, 2010, 07:21:36 PM
Thanks Erosce :) That's a hard thing to do but one I am working on. Transition comes first for me so that I can love myself before finding love.