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Title: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: niamh on November 19, 2010, 10:18:57 AM
Lately I've been doubting whether I am really trans. I wish there would be some exam that you could take. That you could go to the doctor and s/he would take a blood sample and a few days later come back with the results. What scares me is the fact that only I myself can know and no one else can tell me for sure. Then when I royally screw it up it's all down to me. Hence scary.

I think that I would be happier to have been born a girl and that I would rather be a female though I am not sure if that is the same as saying that I am transsexual and that transition would be the right option. Emphasis on 'think' because how can I really know for sure? What do I know about being a woman in this world? Nada, for sure. All I think I know is second-hand. Likewise I do not feel like a guy and can't imagine living the rest of my life like this. I feel like I am staring into a great unknown but great sadness and depression to my back.

Perhaps I am just transgendered and highly confused. I am niggled with the doubt that my trans-feelings are just the symptom of some other issue, some other psychosocial problem, rather than being the root cause. Maybe I am just totally mistaken here and if I went through with transition I would just be making a huge mistake. So I am asking myself whether my trans-feelings are just that and if they are a cause or consequence.

And, as I said, the thing that scares me not knowing either way and not being able to turn to Wikipedia for the answer. Not even the most bright of talented and experienced shrinks can for 100% tell me what I am and who I should be. I don't want to make a mistake, either way. I don't want to wake up at 50 and still be unhappy and wished that I had just make the leap of faith.

Are/were you ladies and gents racked by doubt in your transitions? What helped? Cause right now I feel like a writer staring at a white sheet of paper with a pile of scrunched-up drafts littering the door around me. Doubt, confusion and fear. A prison of my own insecurities and lack of confidence.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Melody Maia on November 19, 2010, 10:37:43 AM
I do sometimes. However, I then think back at what I was like before I started on the path to transition. Unhappy, irritable, quick to anger. I think part of my doubt stems from the fact that I feel ok mentally right now, but that I think is in large part because I have actually started my transition and hormones. Right now, I love my growing female parts and am only dissatisfied with how long the changes take. The one time someone even mentioned that I should delay my transition I broke down crying and felt a panic and anxiety I didn't expect. But still, there are times I wonder about the cost to my personal life. My wife, my home, full time parent to my son. Very steep price. How I don't know what life will be like for me as a woman. If I will be passable. Where am I going to live and what I am going to do for a job. That is when I have doubts. However, I soldier on in the faith that things will work out and we will all be happier in the end.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Janet_Girl on November 19, 2010, 10:53:17 AM
If we did not have doubts, I don't think we would be sure this journey is right.  I had doubts most of my life and they kept me in the closet.  And it was dark and lonely in that closet.

We are Transsexual because we say we are.  The SOC is a set of guidelines that if one goes through all of them, they will find out if this is truly what they wish for their life.  Not that everyone has to do each step, but once one is headed to surgery, if they were honest with themselves it will be the beginning of a brand new enjoyable life.

This time I felt that closet behind me, lost somethings and those I loved.  And while I am still alone, I am still happier now that I have every been in my life.

Sometimes it just takes that leap of faith.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: sneakersjay on November 19, 2010, 11:00:15 AM
Like your avatar line says, be yourself one day at a time.

There is no rush to transition.  No rush for surgery.  No rush for hormones.  If you're not sure, you're not sure.  Many of us went through periods where we tried very hard to live as our birth gender.  I was very feminine (for a tomboy!), got married, had kids, etc.  Many ladies here tried to man up and were active in sports, the military, etc.

Over time we realized that those feelings of our bodies not quite being right never went away no matter how hard we tried to ignore it or suppress it.

You may find that you fall somewhere else on the spectrum, maybe androgynous rather than male or female.  Or you may come to realize that yes, you are female.  Transition comes when we can no longer stand to be in the wrong body for our gender.  For some that comes sooner than later.

So take your time.  Talk things over with a gender specialist.  Just because many of us here seem so sure doesn't mean you need to feel any pressure to transition yourself.  If you're truly trans, you'll eventually know and will do what is right for you.


Jay
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Elsa on November 19, 2010, 11:04:30 AM
everyone has doubts ... its what makes us human... its been almost a month on HRT & I too have doubts like you do ..
As Janet says sometimes it just takes a leap of faith and Janet you are not alone.. even though we are online and may never meet we are here to support each other & thats what I love about this site...
Melody like you... I dont think I could handle anyone even asking me to wait any more thats why I am going ahead despite the risks...

Sometimes we also need to remember that even though we may feel like we are the only ones going through this we must also remember there are others like us... and we need to do what feels right for ourselves...
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: regan on November 19, 2010, 11:53:09 AM
I'll throw my own $.02 in and say that I think part of the stress and part of the doubt comes from the generally accepted transgender biography that we've all had to memorize to open the doorways to the things we want, and need.  Hopefully attitudes are changing, but there's always going to be room for doubt if we question, unlike "everyone else", that we had these feelings all our life, that our non-HRT bodies some how gross us out and that we're completely devastated everytime someone mis-genders us (despite still presenting as the gender we were assigned at birth).

QuoteI don't want to make a mistake, either way. I don't want to wake up at 50 and still be unhappy and wished that I had just make the leap of faith.

I think I'm in the same camp.  I would consider myself a more moderate case,  but I either need to do this or make peace with it.  I don't want to be 50 either and have regets either way.  I've been on the sidelines long enough.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Aidan_ on November 19, 2010, 12:28:07 PM
*points to her own signature*

If you can't accept life one way, try to change it! If you can't change something in your life, you'll have to accept it.

Just ask yourself if you think you'll be happy if you sit by and do nothing.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Randi on November 19, 2010, 12:57:07 PM
There are times when I too have these doubts. But my deepest anguish comes not from knowing I am a woman in a man's body but from trying to protect those I love and wrestling with the economics of how to pay for all of it. As things stand right now there's no way I can afford to pay for SRS or FFS-I can't even pay for the knee surgeries that I have needed for several years now. But I do what I can to find peace in small ways-wear my hair in a fem style or polish my nails or get rid of unwanted hair ... There are ways to cope if only temporarily that make things better for me. If I still have to present as male most of the time-I will do this because I must. But as always I remain hopeful that I can someday transition all the way.
Randi
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Nicky on November 19, 2010, 01:06:08 PM
omg I remember those days of confusion and doubt.  There is no 'just transgendered', it is all hard, it is all confusing. I spent 5 years thinking I was in the in-between. I could not see how I could be a woman, I did not know how. I was definitely not a boy though, I held onto that thought. That helped me, I stuck with what I knew "I am not a boy, I don't know what I am but I am definitely not a boy"

The thing is you can start transitioning with no end point in mind, you can see if it feels right, in the beginning it is all kind of reversible and sometimes you may backtrack only to go back again. That helped me.

Sometimes action is the answer honey. It is scary and terrifying but I think you know that you will feel better for it. Hugs!

There is no mistaking your dysphoric feelings, they are real. It is natural to have these doubts and fears. Some of it comes from internalized trans-phobia - society tells us it is bad, we absorb those messages and so we end up filled with fear and indecision.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: niamh on November 19, 2010, 01:38:25 PM
Thanks so much everybody for the replies! It makes me feel so much better just reading them and gives me a feeling being part of a community which I need. This forum is wonderful. Thanks all! I know I just have to be more stubborn in my convictions and be more confident and there will be light coming soon down the tunnel.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Tamaki on November 19, 2010, 02:08:53 PM
I can completely relate to the feelings your having.

There are times when I'm taking my hormones I think "What am I doing to myself." This is just my fear talking.

By transitioning we are leaving the familiar. Even though the familiar is miserable it provides a sense of security, we know what to expect.

Crossing the line into a new gender we enter new territory and this can be scary.

The adage "nothing ventured, nothing gained" comes to my mind but I think for us it's more like "nothing ventured, something lost." If I don't move toward being the woman I am on the inside I will never know the person that I can be, the person that I am meant to be. I'll just be the miserable guy I've always been.

Have courage. I believe it's an adventure with a happy ending.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Colleen Ireland on November 19, 2010, 05:09:29 PM
Quote from: niamh on November 19, 2010, 10:18:57 AMNot even the most bright of talented and experienced shrinks can for 100% tell me what I am and who I should be. I don't want to make a mistake, either way. I don't want to wake up at 50 and still be unhappy and wished that I had just make the leap of faith.

True, a good shrink can't tell you 100% one way or the other, but he CAN guide you and help you examine yourself, your feelings, your motivations, and help you on you journey, so that YOU can be more certain of yourself.  And... even if you DO wake up at 50 (or 54, in my case), it is STILL not too late!  I do wish I had done something about it when I was young, not for my own sake, but for my dear wife's sake.  She is going through a very difficult time now, because I didn't have the courage or the resources when I was young to face this then.  But, I still firmly believe that there is happiness for both of us down the road somewhere.  Maybe not together, but I do believe we are both entitled to happiness, and that if we look for it, we will both find it.

This is not an easy journey, by far.  But if we are strong, we can learn much, and even the so-called "wasted" years are not truly wasted, if we learned something...
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: K8 on November 19, 2010, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: niamh on November 19, 2010, 10:18:57 AM
I think that I would be happier to have been born a girl and that I would rather be a female though I am not sure if that is the same as saying that I am transsexual and that transition would be the right option. Emphasis on 'think' because how can I really know for sure? What do I know about being a woman in this world? Nada, for sure. All I think I know is second-hand. Likewise I do not feel like a guy and can't imagine living the rest of my life like this. I feel like I am staring into a great unknown but great sadness and depression to my back.

I went through many of the same doubts.  I didn't think I was a woman.  I thought I was male but not a man, so I was something else – but what?  I finally knew that I had to work on finding out.  I got counseling and came out to my friends.  Then I started taking small steps.  I started having my facial hair removed, thinking that I could just be clean-shaven if I stayed presenting male.  I started hormones with the idea that it would soften my contours, not that it would give me a female shape.  Small steps, with help from caring professionals.  As I worked through the process, I gradually lost my "should I" doubts and only had "can I" doubts.  And eventually I lost those doubts, too.

Quote from: Nicky on November 19, 2010, 01:06:08 PM
The thing is you can start transitioning with no end point in mind, you can see if it feels right, in the beginning it is all kind of reversible and sometimes you may backtrack only to go back again. That helped me.

Transition isn't like throwing a switch, it is a long process, with lots of stopping places and detours.  For me, I only wanted to take the next step.  But each time I did, I wanted to take the next one.  It took a lot of next steps before I realized that I am just a woman, despite my history and the anatomy I was born with.  You may get to a point where you decide you aren't.  That's OK.  Take each step as you are ready for it.  As you do, you will become certain what the answer is for you.

Happy travels. :icon_flower:

- Kate
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Adabelle on November 19, 2010, 07:17:02 PM
I identify with lots of thoughts in this thread. I'm in my early thirties and sort of unsure of what to do. I start slipping into depression if I 'ignore' actively working on figuring out who I am though. I found myself slipping into it again and have started with a therapist to work on what next. Like others I just don't want to keep burying it and let year after year pass by. I feel like my wife and I have a certain amount of our lives on hold because she doesn't know if she'll stay with me if I transition (lately I'm thinking she won't, but I don't know for sure).

I just don't think it's healthy for me, or for her to have this hanging over our heads. I feel that if today I feel transgender, and it hasn't gone away for 30 years, that I doubt it's going away in the future. Being a girl has honestly been my single biggest desire for as long as I can remember - and yet I still doubt. There's not a single day I haven't thought about it and had it weigh on my spirit. And yet, I am scared to death to lose the woman I love, and produce a disruption in the life of my family and friends. Not to mention the financial and social challenges that must be overcome.

Still, when I don't move forward I slip into despair. I need to decide once and for all if I will find increasingly creative ways of distracting myself, burying the issue, or maybe becoming a super fem-guy or something for the sake of all those around me, or if I continue with the next step, which is to add "E" to the mix.

There are lots of us that are struggling with this, both on the MTF and FTM sides of things. I can easily see why they say it's the most difficult thing one can do in life. I'm barely holding together emotionally at the thought of losing my marriage over this, but I just don't know what else to do but keep moving forward.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: JennaLee on November 19, 2010, 07:39:17 PM
I haven't had doubts so much.  For me, denial is the word.  It took 56 years to understand and accept gid.  There where a couple near misses that made me realize if I didn't face it, I may not survive.

Niamh, I can't say I know what you should do.  But, I do know you are asking the right questions.

Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: jmaxley on November 19, 2010, 07:58:22 PM
I've been having doubts too.  Seems normal (omg, I'm normal?!  :o )  I'm taking it one step at a time, going slowly.  Reversible things, like a short haircut, wearing guy clothes.  And I tell myself when I get on hormones I can stop taking them if I want to (though I think FTMs have a shorter time window to change their minds before the hormones make irreversible changes, so I'd probably only have three or four months to change my mind).  I've thought about making up a list of my fears about transitioning, to see what specific anxieties I'm having, rather than just feeling this amorphous cloud of fear about it.  Then I can address each fear.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Nero on November 19, 2010, 10:11:14 PM
Quote from: jmaxley on November 19, 2010, 07:58:22 PM
(though I think FTMs have a shorter time window to change their minds before the hormones make irreversible changes, so I'd probably only have three or four months to change my mind).

Actually, more like weeks. Strangely, it's the irreversible stuff that happens almost immediately. 3 or 4 months in, you'd most likely have a deeper voice, facial and body hair, and downstairs growth. Really, all that stuff starts within the first few weeks. But that doesn't necessarily mean you couldn't go back. You'd just have some permanent changes to deal with.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Adabelle on November 19, 2010, 10:14:05 PM
At the Philly Trans Health Conference last year we met a FTM who said that the voice drop happened in two weeks! So you definitely have to be aware how fast it can happen.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: jmaxley on November 19, 2010, 10:20:56 PM
Yikes.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Nero on November 19, 2010, 10:39:22 PM
Quote from: jmaxley on November 19, 2010, 10:20:56 PM
Yikes.

Yeah, that's one of the reasons I was hesitant about T at first. It's really a lot of dramatic, rapid changes in a short time. It's normal to be nervous. I was scared I wouldn't recognize myself. But when the changes started, it just felt right and normal. I suppose you might have maybe a week to try it out but by that time it might be too late downstairs.  :D
But yeah, we guys don't really get much of a grace period.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: BunnyBee on November 19, 2010, 11:36:49 PM
Others have said take it one step at a time and I think that is the best policy for everybody.

You take a step and see how you feel about it.  If you find you feel more peace and contentment, take another in that same direction.  If you feel less peace, adjust your course.

Life isn't a race, it's an expedition.  Rushing into things can get you too far in the wrong direction too fast, just like you sense that it would.  Find your peace, let it guide you.  When the right move is to take bigger, faster steps, the internal conflict within you will ramp up.  You'll know it if and when it happens, trust me.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: JohnR on November 20, 2010, 04:26:51 AM
Questioning is good and healthy, it means you're making sure rather than just rushing blindly into it. I'm no shrink and I'm certainly not going to pretend to be able to diagnose anyone's GID but you strike me as more genuinely questioning than people who create dramatic scenes demanding to be handed the hormones they believe they're entitled to as soon as they walk through their doctor's door.

Transitioning is about more than just changing outward physical appearance. Our whole position in society and amongst those we are close to, or work with, also changes. After a while on hormone therapy, the outside world reads you as your preferred gender but you may have your nearest  and dearest still referring to you by birth name and pronouns because they too are scared of change.

Keep questioning at every stage you go through, it keeps you grounded and sane. You will have a window of opportunity during which to change your mind, but that window is open during the heady stage of transitioning when it is all new and the relief of finally, actively, doing something can be overwhelming.

Personally, a few months in, I went through a five minute stage of "what the hell am I doing to myself?" it passed as soon as it came.

If you do decide to opt for hormone therapy, then delaying it for a while when you think things through won't hold you back, just adjust the transition calendar in your head. You don't have to push ahead with surgery until and unless you are 100% sure it is the right thing to do. If you do have hormone therapy, and later decide it isn't right for you, then you can just stop taking it. MtFs have a longer period during which to change their minds without irreversible changes than FtMs do.

Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: pebbles on November 20, 2010, 04:47:02 AM
I get situations like that.
"So I'm sitting here telling myself that I'm a transsexual... You know transsexuals are 1/10,000 most have never seen one like you before... How can you be so arrogant as to claim those odds are you."

Or
"How is it possible you want to transition so bad that your willing to kill yourself than go back?... How can you want to be female that much, You've never been female before. It's an absurd suggestion."
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: K8 on November 20, 2010, 08:30:05 AM
Quote from: pebbles on November 20, 2010, 04:47:02 AM
I get situations like that.
"So I'm sitting here telling myself that I'm a transsexual... You know transsexuals are 1/10,000 most have never seen one like you before... How can you be so arrogant as to claim those odds are you."

Or
"How is it possible you want to transition so bad that your willing to kill yourself than go back?... How can you want to be female that much, You've never been female before. It's an absurd suggestion."

You're right, Pebbles.  I've been through those, too.  What makes me so special?  How do I know I should be a woman?

(Actually, transsexuals are closer to 1/1,000, but that is still pretty rare.)

I knew I was unhappy pretending to be a man, so I thought I could try to be a woman.  As I gradually worked into it, I found it really does suit me very well. :)  But JohnR raises a good point.  Transition is very exciting in the beginning.  It is worth questioning yourself: Do I feel wonderful because this suits me or is it because I'm doing something exciting and scary?

Transition to a new life, new position in society, new way of relating to the world is a BIG change.  It is worth questioning yourself along the way.  And it is worth having a guide (or many guides) to help you – caring friends, this forum, and a good therapist or counselor.

- Kate
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: jamherst on November 20, 2010, 08:39:49 AM
I doubt sometimes...I am doubting right now actually but I realized something today.

With labels aside, do what you need to do. Correct what you feel is wrong. There's no need to change something you are alright with. Lots of doctors and even the community will make you feel like you need to follow by a specific guideline or else you would ruin your life--it's just how society and communities function with social pressure. But transitioning is a big thing. We transition to heal ourselves not to follow others. Try to think about what's really bothering you before you came to know the terms transgender or transsexual.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Rock_chick on November 20, 2010, 02:32:07 PM
Doubts are normal hun, I started off doubting i could ever do this even though i knew i'd reached the point where i couldn't not do it. I just took loads of little pigeon steps and after 9 months i can't believe how far i've come.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Nero on November 20, 2010, 03:02:20 PM
Quote from: Helena on November 20, 2010, 02:32:07 PM
Doubts are normal hun, I started off doubting i could ever do this even though i knew i'd reached the point where i couldn't not do it. I just took loads of little pigeon steps and after 9 months i can't believe how far i've come.

Exactly.
Look at it this way, Niamh: Have you ever had doubts about which car or house to buy, or whom to marry? Any time you have a big purchase or life decision to make, there can be doubts. Transitioning is a big life decision. Having doubts about marriage doesn't mean you aren't in love. And having doubts about transition doesn't mean you aren't trans.

Some of us get to the point where there is no more doubt and we must do this. There is no longer any argument. It's do or die. But not everyone reaches that point. And even for those that do, there was often an earlier time where we weren't certain.
So just take it slow and explore yourself.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: BunnyBee on November 20, 2010, 08:53:43 PM
Quote from: Nero on November 20, 2010, 03:02:20 PM
Some of us get to the point where there is no more doubt and we must do this. There is no longer any argument. It's do or die. But not everyone reaches that point. And even for those that do, there was often an earlier time where we weren't certain.
So just take it slow and explore yourself.
I am one of the people that waited till it was a life or death decision and I don't know if I would recommend following that path.  It was dangerous; a string of choices that I came very close to not surviving.

On the other hand, the advantage of having made those choices is that going forward I don't have to deal with any lingering doubt in the back of my mind.  I KNOW I couldn't have made through life any other way.

Was this certainty worth the risk or worth losing so many years of happiness?  Nahhhhhh, not even!  I would love to travel back in time just so I could slap some sense into my past self!
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Sean on November 20, 2010, 09:31:34 PM
I agree with a lot of what's been said.

Take your time, doubts are normal, a good therapist can help you explore how you feel in a way that is hard (and sometimes impossible) by yourself.

Also, remember that there is a difference between how your gender identity (how you feel about yourself as male, female, genderqueer, etc.), and how you choose to express your gender. You don't need to put a label on everything, and even if you find the label you like, you aren't obligated to express your gender identity in any specific way.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Rachel Bellefountaine on November 24, 2010, 11:45:01 AM
You aren't alone. I've had doubts in the past, and periods of time in which I wondered if I was just a boy constructing some fantasy in my head, and trying to make that fantasy a reality. When I get that way I think back to my past and all of my experiences, and it reassures that I am indeed a girl, and that I am doing the right thing for myself.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: E on November 24, 2010, 04:09:22 PM
I've doubted a lot. Sometimes, I'd watch a movie, and see how women got treated, and be struck by a wave of near-panic - "Am I really gonna put myself in a situation where I'd be viewed like that?" But then the dysphoria returns, and as it's gotten stronger, my doubts have all but vanished - it's damn hard to doubt your transness when you're actively dysphoric most of the time. I still doubt in those moments when the dysphoria vanishes, though - how could I not? But even when I doubt, I hope my doubts are wrong, because I want to be trans, if the alternative is to be male. And then I can't quite decide whether that invalidates the process of doubting by making me pre-biased, or whether it confirms my trans-ness.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: Lacey Lynne on November 30, 2010, 01:15:18 AM
@ niamh:

Niam, all I know is that I most certainly have had my doubts and still have them ... sometimes every day.  Admittedly, most of my doubts stem from my financial circumstances and my age.  Transitioning is ideally done by people of means, youth and support. 

Briefly, these are my questions and answers only.  Yours, hopefully, are different:

Am I ruining my life?  Yes, I am.  Do I have enough money to do it right?  Nope.  Am I too damned old to do it right given my circumstances?  Yep.  Am I losing everything to do this?  Pretty much.  Is it worth it?  Damned if I know.  Catch 22 ... damned if I do; damned if I don't.

If I don't transition, I'll end up doing time or being dead.  Great options, huh?  If I do transition, what am I gaining?  A shot at sanity ... dim though it often seems to be much of the time. 

It's all about YOUR circumstances, YOUR feelings, YOUR life.  There is no imperative to transition.  In your mind's eye and at your heart's center, what circumstances will make you the happiest regarding your gender issues.  What will give you the least hassle and the most peace? 

It's your call.  Only you know for sure.  It may change over time.

Sorry if this didn't help.  I'm just being honest.  Take your transition to whatever extent works for you.  It's your life.  Make the most of it.   Peace and happiness to you.
Title: Re: Lately I've been doubting
Post by: carolinejeo on November 30, 2010, 03:19:43 AM
Self doubt is built-in to us regardless of what it is we are deciding. With TSs it is a major step to walk out into the world as the opposite sex. Everything you have ever experienced is now a mirror image, no wonder we doubt ourselves.

However, once you have made the transition it is then possible to reflect. It can be undone but only in experiencing it will you be able to know.

Caroline