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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: Elsa on November 28, 2010, 11:23:43 AM

Title: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Elsa on November 28, 2010, 11:23:43 AM
After 1 month on HRT I was very happy that despite all the crap that has happened to me ... my life was finally going the way I wanted it to... until today..
I decided today to head to the mall to buy clothes that will make me feel a bit more feminine but my hope were dashed when I got there ... there was nothing that would fit me or look good on me...
after some time I decided to head to loo ... where in the mirror I saw an average guy who looks no where near a girl and could never pass... (me)

I was soooo depressed that I went out of there as fast as I could... and on the way after 2 years of quitting smoking I found myself smoking again.. I could barely hold back the tears as I was still presenting as a male at the time... as soon as I got home I went to the bathroom and started crying ... and still am right now..

I cant help thinking what if I never pass as a women .. I have never succeeded at any relationship because I keep letting my GID get in the way.. I wish I was never born... I dont want to be a guy any more its not who I am ... I am fed up of pretending to be someone I'm not...  :'( :'( :'( :'(

I wished that I had started HRT years ago ... but I dont want to stop now only to wish 5 years from now that I had continued...
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: purple sky on November 28, 2010, 11:44:09 AM
hang on to your dreams , allow yourself to cry, it is ok! remember the hormones will work its magic, You will find your feelings develop  and intensify and it will be difficult at times so realize your chemistry is changing and it will have more of an impact on your physc.  Remember it is ok to tripp up and have  a smoke, just drop them.  its ok
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: jessica on November 28, 2010, 11:49:05 AM
just hang in there, i can relate to what your feeling and I know how down it can make you feel.  What I do to try and get out of that mindset is to just remind myself that I'm moving my life forward and things take time. I try not to dwell to much on the past too.  anyways i hope the rest of your day is good times
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Amazon D on November 28, 2010, 11:57:59 AM
firstly dump the smogs and be patient. Your only 23 and will do well with HRT over yrs. I started out almost twice your age and did well. Relax go slow dump the ciggs because they will ruin everything positive for you.
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Astarielle on November 28, 2010, 12:09:22 PM
Everyone has up and down days. If we didn't have the bad days, how would we know that the good days are good?

Moving past that, it's only been a month. These things do take time; taking hormones will not magically make you a girl. You have to believe in yourself, and do your best. I'm sure you'll look great after awhile, once the hormones have done their job. What's important is how you feel. If you feel good about your body, it will show, and people will like you.
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Sandy on November 28, 2010, 12:13:43 PM
It sounds like you had a fashion melt-down at the mall.  Don't worry, that happens to all of us sooner or later!  ;)  There are some days that NOTHING looks right, let alone good.  Don't let that get you down.

You are stronger than this.  Now dry your eyes (and put out the cigarette) and go put on some make up and make yourself look pretty and put something on that you have already.  It may be something you've worn a thousand times before, but if it makes you feel good about yourself, then put it on.

The first steps in learning to become yourself is to believe in yourself.  The beauty that is within needs to shine.  You have it in you.  Really!

And don't worry about the relationships right now.  There will be time for that later.  And you are a girl, not a guy!  Like many of us you have been born with a birth defect that needs to be corrected, that's all.  The whole idea is to take it one step at a time.  You can do this, you are strong, and you are brave.

And don't stop the HRT.  As you probably know by now, it takes time to change.  Puberty takes years and it will take time for you.  Just as an aside, male puberty does not complete until the late 20's.  So you will actually have a much better result since you are still in pubescence.  Old bats like me don't fair quite as well in our second puberty.

Go to the mall another time and you will find that they have put out new things and you may find something more suitable then.

Deep breath, hon, just take deep breaths...

-Sandy
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: spacial on November 28, 2010, 12:21:44 PM
If you don't mind me pointing out, you've made the classic mistake.

You've looked in the mirror and found yourself inadequate.

One of the lessons I've learnt here, in Susans' is that we are the worst judges of ourselves. There's just too much anxiety, too many self doubts, too much self criticism.

Let's face it, we start off with what we don't like, as we change, we still see the old self. Surprise??
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Elsa on November 28, 2010, 12:37:55 PM
thanks guys that really means alot to me ..

and I've put out that ciggy...

still quite upset after what happened ...

I guess sometimes we need to keep going .. I am really glad I have you guys for support ... (here I go ... crying again....)
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: V M on November 28, 2010, 12:39:08 PM
Seems allot of gals tend to go through this sort of thing right around the one month mark for some reason

But hey, relax... Give the HRT time to work it's magic... Most gals don't see much results until around the third month

After one year of HRT I bet you'll  have a whole new perspective

*HUGS*
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Janet_Girl on November 28, 2010, 12:54:18 PM
SSDD, Vibes.  I think we all have been there.  Mall meltdown.  When I was beginning I never went to the mall.  I shopped online and at thrift stores.

It does get better.  You will see.
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Elsa on November 28, 2010, 01:06:32 PM
thanks guys ... (wiping away the tears ... and trying to get a hold of myself...) 

really appreciate having you guys for support...

you guys are great!

Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Ayaname on November 28, 2010, 01:26:36 PM
I would do almost anything to be able to go back and start hrt at your age. You're still young and you have only been on hormones for a short while. It takes some time. I do understand the struggle though. I had almost 2 years of constant meltdowns. My transition went VERY slowly because I used some not so effective methods to start with. And since the change was so gradual it made it much more difficult to notice it. Even after I had friends who didn't know I was trans I'd still constantly tell myself that I didn't pass and never would. Even now I have plenty of days where I look in the mirror and wonder if I'd changed at all since starting hrt. But as long as you are starting out with the correct hormones you should have a much easier time than I had. Just be patient and try not to get ahead of yourself. The first couple of months are the hardest.
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: samantha1976ts on November 28, 2010, 03:30:45 PM
sometimes i wish i was never born, and why did god create me only for me to find misery at times..they say god doesnt make mistakes, well can you explain why i feel like a girl and am male by birth?
i cant explain but i try to find some kind of peace, and hope in my journey to become a woman. so im going to keep trying to live the life i should be. i hope you all try to do the same and get what you desire in life...  :)
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Bird on November 28, 2010, 03:36:17 PM
Vibe, 1 month still is a very short time on HRT, as others said. It will take quite a while before it has full effects, as you are essentially going through a second puberty.
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: pebbles on November 28, 2010, 03:48:06 PM
Hey girl I'm your age, it took me 5 months on HRT before I was even referred to as female by a stranger and then it was "Was that a dude or a chick" deal for ages it was 8-9 before it became the norm for me to be referred to as female. I of course wish the same thing about fixing this mess before It and going back in time to fix the past but it's not somthing you can do so you gotta mourn what you lost then go on with what you have got we still both started in our early 20s it could have been another 20 years.
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Megan on November 28, 2010, 04:55:25 PM
Just give it a few more months, I doubt much change could occur in 1 month to make you stunning, but maybe in 6 months you might be?

Just remain strong.
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: BunnyBee on November 28, 2010, 05:18:03 PM
I didn't notice a whole lot of changes in my first month on HRT, besides feeling a little better about life.  Hang in there :).
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Elsa on November 28, 2010, 08:29:35 PM
thanks everyone ... I really needed that ...

will stick to the HRT... don't want to give up now...

::::big hug to everyone::::
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Sandy on November 28, 2010, 08:45:01 PM
***hugs back***

-Sandy
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: marissak on November 28, 2010, 10:03:29 PM
Vibes,

I live as female now. Everyone accepts me as female. About 99% of these "everyone" seem to not know.

However, when I see myself in the mirror, I still see the guy staring back at me. On some days, he looks more masculine than on other days. It took me a very long time to accept that regardless of how I see myself, other people do not see me the same way.

Perception is a weird concept. People will only see what they expect to see. If you dress like other women your age in public, most people will not try to guess your gender.

If this is just your first time, please do not despair. Some transwomen are living as women and nobody can tell even though they looked very masculine previously. There are ways out, depending on your preferences and perspectives. Here are three things you could start to do to solve the problem that is behind your current depression ...

- If you can find someone (preferably a genetic or trans female) who is good at makeup and picking clothes, ask that person for help.

- I have not seen you so I cannot tell for sure, but some transwomen do need FFS to feminize their bone structures which do not respond to hormones after a certain age. The best way to tell is to check with someone you trust who has undergone some FFS and then to check with one of the FFS surgeons around the world (inquire, send pictures/videos, ask them ... and get multiple opinions ... do not get fixated on one because they are in it to make money too).

- Make a list of things about you that do look feminine. Then look for celebrities or women you know who also have those feminine features. See how they bring out those features through clothes or makeup or hair or something else.

I hope this helps.

Whenever you encounter a severe difficulty, it is normal to want to never have been born (I have been there too), but the more pragmatic thing to do is to figure out ways to solve the difficulty. And this forum seems very responsive. So please do not give up hope.
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Astarielle on November 28, 2010, 10:29:46 PM
^_^ I agree with the perception. I have had to shout at people to try and get their attention sometimes. We tend to tear ourselves apart more than others do, and a good part of that is we expect other people to need more from us than they really do.

By the by, I've done retail for 3-4 years now, had a couple of people buying opposite gender clothing. Me and my coworkers never make a deal out of it, since it doesn't really matter. I've only had one person mention it to me, and they were 16, so...just don't get a teenage cashier :P
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: themadwomyn on November 29, 2010, 12:41:33 AM
I have been transitioning for almost 5 years now and I still have days like you have had. Like others have said we are our own worst critic. I still look in that mirror and more often than not I can pick out that boy I was. Remember that you are gradually becoming the who you really are. Let that woman shine through and people will respond. You can do this, I know it seems helpless right now, but things will get better. Just hang in there and build a support network of people that you can turn to when you are going through hard times.

*HUGS* Much Love!
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Renate on November 29, 2010, 06:37:40 AM
QuoteI wish I was never born.

That is wrong on so many levels.

First, use the subjunctive, "I wish I were never born."
Oops, sorry, I couldn't resist. >:-)

C'mon, life can be good.

All this stuff with passing is overrated.
In the very worst case (which is never the case) even if you are 0% passable
you can brave the world by saying, "I'm a woman, end of discussion."

As mentioned before, you are the worst judge of yourself.
Moreover, one month of 'mones is hardly a real test.

You are also going through the same learning process as any teenager,
learning what suits you and makes you look good in clothes, hair, makeup.
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Amazon D on November 29, 2010, 07:12:49 AM
Or you can dress as a guy and tell people a female first name and that you are trying to transition to male. They will all give great compliments. Then when you get close enough to passing switch the other direction.  >:-)

Hey it works for me  ;D
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: spacial on November 29, 2010, 10:42:10 AM
Quote from: M2MtF2FtM on November 29, 2010, 07:12:49 AM
Or you can dress as a guy and tell people a female first name and that you are trying to transition to male. They will all give great compliments. Then when you get close enough to passing switch the other direction.  >:-)

Hey it works for me  ;D

That's actually quite a good suggestion. Hmmm.
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: annette on November 30, 2010, 09:07:38 AM
hi vibes

I'm sorry to hear that you where  feeling so lonely in the mall.
In the beginning of hrt sometimes it's depressing.
But it will get better in time.
Where I come from they say: the impossible can be done at once but miracles take some time more.
and hrt is a miracle, you'll see.
It's just a matter of time when you read a posts like you've send and you'll say: I have to write this pour girl back, I was there a few years ago and I know how she feels right now.
So, I'm saying, we know how you're feel because we've also been there.Give the hrt a change to do their job  and think about the born girls, have you ever seen a girl becoming a female in such a short time ?
No, also for them it takes a depressing time with slamming doors and saying I hate the world, isn't it ?
Persepective is also a strange thing, when you look into the mirror you'll see all the things you don't like but other people see something else.
Don't give up girl, forfill your dream.
In the mean time you can share your griefs, you're not alone anymore, you 've got friends to support you.

a very big kiss to comfort you
(hope you're feeling better allready)
annette
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Elsa on November 30, 2010, 07:41:30 PM
thanks everyone! feeling better ...

sorry for the delayed reply ... nets acting weird..

decided to do something about the stuff that keeping me from passing...

found an endo lab and doc yesterday who I will be visiting ... hopefully things will go well... (been searching for one for the last 6-8 months but no luck until now...)

also starting laser on face and neck as soon as possible will be consulting docs this sat... (maybe I should have done this earlier... but oh well... )
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: purple sky on November 30, 2010, 07:58:21 PM
laser really hurts! So does electro . but It's worth it.  Good to hear you are better!
Title: Re: I am so depressed ... I wish I was never born...
Post by: Lacey Lynne on November 30, 2010, 09:45:53 PM
Quote from: Janet Lynn on November 28, 2010, 12:54:18 PM
SSDD, Vibes.  I think we all have been there.  Mall meltdown.  When I was beginning I never went to the mall.  I shopped online and at thrift stores.

It does get better.  You will see.

See?  All of us have these kinds of days.  Lord knows, I certainly do.  Janet passes very well, I believe.  I do not pass well at all.  She looks great.  I look like s--t.  Face gives me dead away.  No, I don't need FFS, but the shape is all wrong, and it's too masculinized.  Having a nose like Jimmy Durante doesn't help any either.  Lastly, due to an economic setback, I've not been able to be consistent at L.A. Fitness, so I'm NOT in the usual good shape that I prefer. 

Bummer, but that's life.  Hang in there, girl!  Things have a way of working out.   Best to you!

Mall?  Did somebody say mall?  The mall is my natural habitat ... let's go!