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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Hormone replacement therapy => Topic started by: kimberrrly on December 02, 2010, 04:45:52 PM

Title: Do you think it is safe to use Horny Goat Weed with HRT?
Post by: kimberrrly on December 02, 2010, 04:45:52 PM
Hi everyone,

Do you think it is safe to use Horny Goat Weed with HRT?
I am considering using it because it may work good for bone density and libido.
But because it seems to influence hormones too, I wonder if it is safe.

Love
Birgit
Title: Re: Do you think it is safe to use Horny Goat Weed with HRT?
Post by: E on December 02, 2010, 05:23:56 PM
I don't know. What I do know is that they are illegal for sale in the UK because of false marketing, so I wouldn't take any chances - either they do nothing, and you've wasted your money, or they do something else than what they claim, which would probably be bad.
Title: Re: Do you think it is safe to use Horny Goat Weed with HRT?
Post by: kimberrrly on December 02, 2010, 05:31:10 PM
Hi E... the supplements are for sale here in the Netherlands... but I am considering using it as tea...
the chinese name is Ying Yang Huo...(Herba epimedii).

You can buy it at stores that sell herbes for traditional chinese medicine.

Love,
Birgit
Title: Re: Do you think it is safe to use Horny Goat Weed with HRT?
Post by: Jillieann Rose on December 02, 2010, 06:10:33 PM
Medical Function: ( ???  Maybe)

      Improves endocrine system. Improve axle: hypothalamus, pituitary,  sex hormones and adrenal cortex .
    *
       Improves DNA metabolism.
    *
       Improves immune system.
    *
       Anti-aging effect.
    *
      Improves effect of nitrogen oxide in dilating the blood vessels
    *
       Improves circulatory system.  a. Improve function of the heart. b. Lower blood pressure by dilution of peripheral blood vessels.
    *
      Improves blood flow to the penis and causes erection
    *
       Improves the blood system. a.. Prevent platelet coagulation.  b. Lower viscosity of the blood. c. Improve production of white blood cells.
    *
       Improves ability to resist lack of oxygen.
    *
       Anti-inflammatory, anti-histamine
    *
      Anti-bacterial.
    *
      Lower lipoprotein and cholesterol.
    *
       It inhibits asthma caused by increased histamine.
    *
       Small amount: promotes urination
    *
       Large amount: inhibits urination
    *
      Reduces the number of estrogen receptors, prevent spreading of cancer cells, and destroy cancer cells.
    *
       Prevents and reverses bone loss
    *
      Antibiotic effect: inhibit polio virus and Staphylococcus aureus.

Cautions 
In some people, ingesting it can lead to dizziness, vomiting, dry mouth, thirst, and nose bleeding.

This herb from Japan can increase the activity of lab mice and causes hyper-reflexia even mild spasm.
Very large doses can cause respiratory arrest.

No thanks. I'm already ADD
Jillieann
Title: Re: Do you think it is safe to use Horny Goat Weed with HRT?
Post by: Janet_Girl on December 02, 2010, 06:20:21 PM
Check with your doctor or pharmacist for drug interaction.
Title: Re: Do you think it is safe to use Horny Goat Weed with HRT?
Post by: Cindy on December 03, 2010, 01:50:07 AM
As a generalistion (sorry) the use of herbs that have unclear pharmaceutical effects are considered best not to be taken when on defined medication. Sorry that's a crap sentence :laugh:. What it means is if it is unknown or unclear how the herb will interact with your medications don't take it. Several reasons. If you have an adverse reaction to ANYTHING, you will not be able to claim compensation. Many herbs, and many drugs,  have profound interactions with other medications, and the knowledge is difficult to find even for professionals.  Hospitals have a galore of people who have disease symptoms that end up being due to drug interactions, and it can take years to find them. No you cannot just look them up on the computer, some we can but others, particularly when you are on several drugs, a few herbs, diet and life style differences; not a chance.

When on HRT as MtF you should be getting bone densitometry test every now and again (yearly). If you aren't why not? Your physician should be asking for them. Do the sensible stuff, eat a proper diet, drink milk, take a calcium supplement for women and exercise.

Live Healthy tend to look after most things.

Cindy
Title: Re: Do you think it is safe to use Horny Goat Weed with HRT?
Post by: kimberrrly on December 03, 2010, 04:31:47 PM
Quote from: CindyJames on December 03, 2010, 01:50:07 AM

When on HRT as MtF you should be getting bone densitometry test every now and again (yearly). If you aren't why not? Your physician should be asking for them. Do the sensible stuff, eat a proper diet, drink milk, take a calcium supplement for women and exercise.

Live Healthy tend to look after most things.

Cindy

I did have them and I have osteoporosis. They do want to put me on osteopororis drugs but their side effects are very bad... and I mean very!

love
Birgit
Title: Re: Do you think it is safe to use Horny Goat Weed with HRT?
Post by: kimberrrly on December 03, 2010, 04:33:11 PM
Quote from: Jillieann on December 02, 2010, 06:10:33 PM
Medical Function: ( ???  Maybe)

      Improves endocrine system. Improve axle: hypothalamus, pituitary,  sex hormones and adrenal cortex .
    *
       Improves DNA metabolism.
    *
       Improves immune system.
    *
       Anti-aging effect.
    *
      Improves effect of nitrogen oxide in dilating the blood vessels
    *
       Improves circulatory system.  a. Improve function of the heart. b. Lower blood pressure by dilution of peripheral blood vessels.
    *
      Improves blood flow to the penis and causes erection
    *
       Improves the blood system. a.. Prevent platelet coagulation.  b. Lower viscosity of the blood. c. Improve production of white blood cells.
    *
       Improves ability to resist lack of oxygen.
    *
       Anti-inflammatory, anti-histamine
    *
      Anti-bacterial.
    *
      Lower lipoprotein and cholesterol.
    *
       It inhibits asthma caused by increased histamine.
    *
       Small amount: promotes urination
    *
       Large amount: inhibits urination
    *
      Reduces the number of estrogen receptors, prevent spreading of cancer cells, and destroy cancer cells.
    *
       Prevents and reverses bone loss
    *
      Antibiotic effect: inhibit polio virus and Staphylococcus aureus.

Cautions 
In some people, ingesting it can lead to dizziness, vomiting, dry mouth, thirst, and nose bleeding.

This herb from Japan can increase the activity of lab mice and causes hyper-reflexia even mild spasm.
Very large doses can cause respiratory arrest.

No thanks. I'm already ADD
Jillieann

Thanks Jillieann!
Title: Re: Do you think it is safe to use Horny Goat Weed with HRT?
Post by: Jillieann Rose on December 03, 2010, 05:08:20 PM
Your welcome Birgitta.
Glad I could help.