I am a self proclaimed pretty boy. I am also very flambouyant. Kinda like Adam Lambert lol.
I definitely have an effeminate side. One of my biggest fears about going on T is about not being able to show that side...especially in the small very redneck southern town I currently live in (as soon as I have the money, I'm leaving). I like designing clothes and some of my designs are flamboyant even for females (like the hot pink leopard print jacket with black furry trim that I made.) Females do have much more freedom to express both their masculine side and their feminine side. I wish guys had more freedom in that area.
I've responded to your posts before, so you know I definitely am. :D
But I can be very masculine, all depends. At the same time, I really like clothes, and I love doing people's hair. (I went to Cosmetology.)
Generally, I like feeling the freedom to be comfortable wherever I am, whichever way I'm feeling.
In the past bunch of years I've been presenting as masculine as can be to overcompensate. Deep down inside I'm really feminine for a guy but I'm not in a position where I'm read as a guy. I guess when I'm more comfortable in my own skin I'll "un learn" everything I have been doing to myself.
I'm femme-ish, often. Genderqueer, actually. I like having highlighted hair, eyeliner, skinny jeans, good outfits, jewellery, sometimes nail polish, and occasionally crossdressing. I like fashion. Painting, writing (including poetry), dancing to girly music. I go through phases though. Mostly I'm going to cheer on the Mythbusters as they cause huge explosions, ooh and aww over gadgets and blades, and choose a horror-thriller book over something softer. But when I'm femme, I'm downright flamboyant.
I totally refuse to conform to traditional fem or masculine roles and ideas.
I am a man plain and simple. I was born with a birth defect that needs to be corrected.
I like cooking ... love it actual...love a good based on a true story movie ...love a good pair of shoes (even if they are men's)
Does it make me less of a man. No, it makes me who I am ... comfortable with being me - screw what society says I should be like
I don't see myself as femme at all!
Well, I'm romantic, I write poetry, my girl friends say I'm really cute and nice, but I guess you can be all those things and still be pretty masculine.
I think is about my attitude and the way I feel most of the time.
I'm not sure how to explain that, but I see me as fully male (if that is even possible, since everybody has both sides inside).
I'm an extremely femme, yet pretty masculine guy (at least according to stereotypes, really) who loves to make himself into anything that he wants to be at the moment. I can be either be a man's man or a pageant gown wearing guy depending on my mood, in other words. My weaknesses are black nail polish and Victorian era clothing (either male or female).
Quote from: Nikolai_S on January 04, 2011, 05:39:59 PM
I'm femme-ish, often. Genderqueer, actually. I like having highlighted hair, eyeliner, skinny jeans, good outfits, jewellery, sometimes nail polish, and occasionally crossdressing. I like fashion. Painting, writing (including poetry), dancing to girly music. I go through phases though. Mostly I'm going to cheer on the Mythbusters as they cause huge explosions, ooh and aww over gadgets and blades, and choose a horror-thriller book over something softer. But when I'm femme, I'm downright flamboyant.
I think I'm in love. :-*
I like musical theatre and I talk to my cats in a baby voice. I never liked doing my hair before I cut it all off, though, but I do like spending money... I still see myself as a man.
Quote from: Jeh on January 04, 2011, 07:55:32 PM
I like musical theatre and I talk to my cats in a baby voice. I never liked doing my hair before I cut it all off, though, but I do like spending money... I still see myself as a man.
Me too! But I try not to...my parents use this against me saying that there isn't a single bit of boy in me....
I don't like tools, cars or sports. I mainly like art and music. I don't see that as feminine at all.
Quote from: Fumbling Towards Ecstasy on January 05, 2011, 08:17:37 PM
I don't like tools, cars or sports. I mainly like art and music. I don't see that as feminine at all.
This.
I sing, I dance, I hug, I cook, I knit,....
And I don't feel feminine doing any of it.
I think I've become a bit more femm since living full time male, before anything female was uncomfortable scary and awkward, but now as I embrace my male side, I've also discovered that I do have a bit of femininity that I like to express from time to time. Well not femininity per se - but I do enjoy some more 'feminine' activities that I completely shunned before such as cooking.
Quote from: Alex201 on January 04, 2011, 04:39:26 PM
I am a self proclaimed pretty boy. I am also very flambouyant. Kinda like Adam Lambert lol.
I am a lot like that, haha! I was thinking it was only me. :'(
Nobody would ever read me as fem. I'm not graceful, I don't swish, I'm pretty rough around the edges. I have a dominant personality and I'm pretty authoritative inside my comfort zone which mostly includes "masculine" areas like computers and gaming, mechanical stuff, technology, etc. I can be pretty physically assertive, I take up space...one of the things that made it difficult for me to pass as a "normal" woman is that my body language is read as threatening or aggressive in a woman, even though it's seen as normal in a guy.
But I'm part of that silent majority of guys who are quietly feminine, to one degree or another. Just because I walk like a farmer doesn't mean I never secretly dreamed of doing ballet. Just because I look ridiculous if I try to wear fashionable clothes and makeup doesn't mean that I don't appreciate people who can pull them off. Just because the aircraft I usually worked on were made of aluminum and carbon fiber doesn't mean I didn't take great joy in crafting the perfect little airplane out of gingerbread and frosting for my niece's Christmas birthday.
If you wear your femminess on the outside, if you swish and glide and giggle and wear guyliner and major in fashion design, that's awesome. But even though there aren't a whole lot of guys who look just like you on the outside, that doesn't mean you're alone in a world of Chuck Norris clones. You'd be amazed how many guys are like me.
Quote from: Vince1995 on January 06, 2011, 02:39:31 AM
I am a lot like that, haha! I was thinking it was only me. :'(
hey...I was looking at your avatar photo and we look alot alike! No kidding I had to double check lol.
I feel neither male or female. Sometimes it can lean in one direction more than the other, but I'm generally gender neutral. To quote one of my friends, "Your gender is sitting on the edge of a sharp blade, it's really hard to guess what gender you are."
Quote from: Rob on January 04, 2011, 05:44:24 PM
I am a man plain and simple. I was born with a birth defect that needs to be corrected.
I love that. That might be the simplest and best explanation I've heard yet, honestly.
I can be kind of femme-ish myself. I prefer straight leg or semi-skinny jeans, I'm in love with my hair, I still wear eyeliner sometimes, and that's just the physical stuff. I'm pretty sure I mentioned on another thread that I'm a cooking freak, I sew and knit, I can be a massive sap sometimes especially when animals are involved. I've always felt like I was completely a guy, though.
Oh, yeah. I'm not manly in the least.
Hey, I consider myself as a femme FTM. although i want to be treated as a guy, my gender expression (how i dress/act) is ANDROGYNOUS. I used to be genderqueer until like a year ago. But I'm still an FTM. I don't like traditional masculine style--emo style rocks! :P
::)
Quote from: Alexy on January 09, 2011, 01:20:43 AM
Hey, I consider myself as a femme FTM. although i want to be treated as a guy, my gender expression (how i dress/act) is ANDROGYNOUS. I used to be genderqueer until like a year ago. But I'm still an FTM. I don't like traditional masculine style--emo style rocks! :P
my long lost twin!
I can be pretty swishy at times, but there's a difference between that and "girly", and it had me confused until I figured that out - I'm gay, not a girl. The really really effeminate gay guys I know fit in better as "one of the girls" than I do, and I still tend be more dominant than some of my "new age sensitive guy" (straight) friends. Being still in the closet for the most part means I can cross-dress anytime I feel like it, but I lack any sort of natural talent with style. I talk to animals in plain english, full sentances, and will use big words with them even though they don't have opposable thumbs and will have a harder time grabbing a dictionary to look them up if they don't understand. I don't cook well, or do any sort of art or craft stuff well, I like to fix things in that I hate to leave them broken without at least *trying*, but there's certainly no guarantee I might not make things worse, and I don't really know much about cars. I don't make a very pretty girl, I'd like it if I could be considered by others as a pretty boy though!
My gender expression may be erratic-androgynous, more apathetic than genderqueer as I never really intend to confuse people, I just do what I like and wear what fits, but I can tell the set of parts I'm starting from is not what it should be.
Go Adam! I am tooootally a femme guy...it took me a bit to realise that but all in all, I'm okay with it. Just because I like eyeliner and jewelry and glam doesn't make me any less of a guy than one who likes trucks and more manly things...
P.S. i love Adam cuz I can have his style and still look masculine hehe and hes gooooregeous
I'm glad I came across this thread. I see myself as quite fem and its always been a problem for me until recently. It just felt like all the trans guys I was meeting were manly men and I thought that I was strange because I still liked to be girly sometimes. I've always loved hair and fashion and stuff especially the emo/punk type stuff. I'm planning on getting into cosmetology after I get more comfortable with myself, probably fall semester. I'm really happy to see that I'm not the only one that feels this way.
I don't know where I fall in this spectrum. I live for manly things like paintball, MMA, hockey, motorcycles, moshing at shows (I notice a lot more guys do this than girls since it gets pretty violent), video games, et cetera. At the same time, I like fashion- at least, I like creating guy's outfits. I enjoy puppies and kittens and whatever, but I can appreciate and admire the strength and prowess of a cheetah or a wolf. Cooking is a pretty androgynous thing in my opinion, and I like watching the food network when I'm bored, but I don't cook much myself. While I'd prefer working out to kitting any day, I still know how to knit. And crochet. Every man has their feminine side, just a matter of how big yours is.
Interesting fact I found:
Pink used to be the official boy colour while blue was for girls. Baby blue is delicate whereas pink is close to red, which would symbolise the blood of battle and masculinity in general. A queen (I forget which, an English lady) was pregnant and she was hoping to give birth to a boy. As a result, the child's room was decorated pink and pink clothing was made for the baby. When the time came, though, it was a girl. Rather than recreate the room and clothing, pink became the girl colour and blue became the boy colour. Interesting, no?
Quote from: Gregg on January 19, 2011, 09:22:59 PM
Interesting fact I found:
Pink used to be the official boy colour while blue was for girls. Baby blue is delicate whereas pink is close to red, which would symbolise the blood of battle and masculinity in general. A queen (I forget which, an English lady) was pregnant and she was hoping to give birth to a boy. As a result, the child's room was decorated pink and pink clothing was made for the baby. When the time came, though, it was a girl. Rather than recreate the room and clothing, pink became the girl colour and blue became the boy colour. Interesting, no?
I actually heard about that awhile ago and I agree, it's very interesting.
Quote from: Gregg on January 19, 2011, 09:22:59 PM
Interesting fact I found...
Would you provide the name of this queen? I am unable to find any reference.
- N
Quote from: Kohdy on January 06, 2011, 10:28:55 AM
I feel neither male or female. Sometimes it can lean in one direction more than the other, but I'm generally gender neutral.
I totally feel like this at the minute, although im still only just starting to question myself.
Quote from: Nimetön on January 19, 2011, 10:00:19 PM
Would you provide the name of this queen? I am unable to find any reference.
- N
Arg nooooooo! My only source for watching the show I saw this on just deleted their account. Now I'm incredibly sad :'( why, YouGluben, whyyyyyy?
If I find another place that has the episode, I'll rewatch it and let you know.
I may not be the world's most manly man, but I don't really care. Goths are expected to be a bit flouncy and femme, yeah?
I don't care if I'm seen as a poof or whatever. I'm me and, well, WYSIWYG. Young, geeky, gothy, awkward, short, ugly, a bit flouncy.
Quote from: jmaxley on January 04, 2011, 05:25:44 PM
I definitely have an effeminate side. One of my biggest fears about going on T is about not being able to show that side...especially in the small very redneck southern town I currently live in (as soon as I have the money, I'm leaving). I like designing clothes and some of my designs are flamboyant even for females (like the hot pink leopard print jacket with black furry trim that I made.) Females do have much more freedom to express both their masculine side and their feminine side. I wish guys had more freedom in that area.
OT, but Atlanta is considered the San Francisco of the south...
I just try to be myself - which is often in the middle of male and female. I have to admit my fav thing is often when people think I'm a really androgynous guy. I'm a total hair princess. I feel like discovering hair straighteners was one of the best things that ever happened to me! I love skinny jeans. I've painted my nails black before. I'd wear eye liner but I absolutely suck at putting it on. I still feel I'm mostly male and I'm ok with that or any variation that floats my boat. Like I say, I just like to be myself.
Quote from: regan on January 21, 2011, 02:42:17 PM
OT, but Atlanta is considered the San Francisco of the south...
I totally need to visit there. Maybe one year I'll have the money for Southern Comfort.
I'm a bio-guy, though I feel a lot of the same way as a lot of you in this thread (except approaching it from the other direction I guess). My gender expression is androgynous but highly dependent on the situation i'm in, and i'm less concerned about people seeing me as 'male' or 'female' as opposed to seeing me as myself. Being able to switch my presentation between the two at will would be the best of both worlds ;)
I'm male.
However, I do all of the stereotypical 'female' things minus hanging out with a bunch of girls...oh, wait...my two best friends are girls. xD If I really had to look at myself I'd ask, "why do you think you're a guy? You do none of the normal 'guy' things!" and then I'd answer, "I feel male. Make sense? No? Then piss off."
I guess I could fit into the androgynous with male leanings, but I'm not certain and I don't care all that much. As long as I can pass as male at times and as female at others, I'm good with life. (Not saying I can do that yet, I'm just not going to worry about it.)
I can be very femme, but I can be very masculine too. I think the biggest reason I come off as femme is because I'm just socially awkward to begin with, so I learned early on that smiling and appearing as inconsequential as possible doesn't usually piss people off. I'm working on that though- damn Aspergers. Anyway, I'm real competitive and rational, but i also can present a cute personality that mostly fits me. I'm definitely sensitive, and I like pretty things... just not on me.
And this:
Quote from: LukasGabriel on January 22, 2011, 08:39:52 PM
I'm male.
However, I do all of the stereotypical 'female' things minus hanging out with a bunch of girls...oh, wait...my two best friends are girls. xD If I really had to look at myself I'd ask, "why do you think you're a guy? You do none of the normal 'guy' things!" and then I'd answer, "I feel male. Make sense? No? Then piss off."
I struggled with this for a while (well, I still am really.) I mean, I know lesbians who are more manly than me, but in the end, I'm a guy, not a girl. Then again, I've got plenty of nerdy bio male friends who are less masculine than me. ^-^
I like a lot of "guy" things. I do martial arts, I drool over a nice plane or boat (don't care as much about cars, though), and I love baseball. I also NEVER style my hair even though it's about shoulder length right now and couldn't care less about fashion, I can't cook to save my life, and "girl talk" (the kind a lot of gay guys love) makes me very uncomfortable. Yet at the same time I like colorful things, just not on me (my classroom is bright color central and my bedspread in college was neon tie-dye), and I love kids and babies. I also like things like nice smelling bath products and lotions and good tasting lip glosses, but I don't wear any of that stuff if I'm trying to pass and I very rarely wear it period. I usually buy it and then just sniff it or only wear it at home. That's pretty much the extent of my femininity.