I'm an FTM and I have an idential twin sister. Just wondered how many trans people out there also have one too. It's really interesting since we both grew up being 'tomboys' and then I 'didn't grow out of it'.
During my mom's pregnancy the doctors told her that she was pregnant with twin boys, then a while later they said that one might be a girl but the other was definitly a boy. Then well, you know. We were born identical at 27 weeks weighing two pounds each. Whenever I was told that story as a child I always thought that I wasn't in there long enough. Haha.
But, anyway, now if you saw us together we really are the same person but it's like she is the girl me and I am the boy her. My parents always thought that I acted like a male to seperate myself from acting like my sister but I obviously don't think so. I like how we are the same, like an extension of each other just I simply couldn't identify as the same gender as her.
Just wanna hear other stories of twins where one is trans since I don't know any other (that I know of) or thoughts about it.
I wish.
But then again, perhaps not.
My mum's a twin ;D (they're not identical though..)
that's cool =D
yeah her and I used to try to trade places in school hahah and people would always ask if we could feel each others pain and which one was the evil one.
I have a twin brother but we don't look alike. He is ugly.
hehe..
We are as different as night and day. Not a whole lot in common. I love him to death, though. I didn't know at the time but my family always thought I was gay because I didn't have serious relationships. I sure fooled them! heehee
Quote from: Dana Lane on January 22, 2011, 06:34:56 PM
I have a twin brother but we don't look alike. He is ugly.
hehe..
We are as different as night and day. Not a whole lot in common. I love him to death, though. I didn't know at the time but my family always thought I was gay because I didn't have serious relationships. I sure fooled them! heehee
Hahahah that's cool. =D yeah I guess my twin and I don't reaaally look a like but if you heard us talk and laugh we're exactly the same.
if anyone wants to post pictures that'd be cool too I could get some if anyone is interested. It would be neat to see.
I have a set of fraternal twins. They are as different as siblings can get.
I'm a fraternal twin. I am one minute older than my sister.
Roxy and I are not exactly identical twins. :D
Quote from: Alex201 on January 22, 2011, 09:44:06 PM
I'm a fraternal twin. I am one minute older than my sister.
How does she feel about you being ftm? like were you guys close growing up and did your parents dress you the same and stuff as kids?
Quote from: Mrs Erocse on January 22, 2011, 09:48:03 PM
Roxy and I are not exactly identical twins. :D
heheh I am assuming that's the two of you in your avatar, it's a cute picture. =) you could pass as twins
Quote from: Mrs Erocse on January 22, 2011, 09:48:03 PM
Roxy and I are not exactly identical twins. :D
I kinda think you are. :laugh:
Yes!
My identical-twin brother, Dean Jeffrey, was born about 3 minutes before I was. He had a nonpatent esophagus, and in late-1955, doctors had neither the knowledge nor the inclination to save him. He succumbed within a few days of profound malnutrition. Likewise, I had some birth defects too. Dean and I were premature and born to a woman of age 34 ... very late gestational maternal age in the mid-1950s. Today, medical science is advanced enough to be able to save a baby born this way. My records say the old man was a smooth-talking salesman and my birth mother was a petite and shapely secretary. They worked in the same office. My bro and I are the product of their intra-office, extracurricular, carnal dalliance. Today, this is no big deal. In the mid-1950s, it was shameful and scandalous beyond measure. You see, they were married to other people. Babies like my bro and me immediately got shipped off to the adoption agency. The times, they HAVE a-changed.
Mind you, I only found this all out a few years ago. You see, I'm adopted. For years and years, I had this strange, inexplicable feeling about my having a twin out there somewhere. That's the God's honest truth. The adoptive parents NEVER told me this ... or ANYTHING about my real history. I had to seek it out myself in later middle age.
Just imagine having that peculiar feeling for years that you have a twin out there ... and then finding out that you DID! An IDENTICAL twin. No joke. No lie. It happened. Now, is THAT freaky, or what? True story.
:'( Lacey
Quote from: Lacey Lynne on January 24, 2011, 01:02:17 AM
Yes!
My identical-twin brother, Dean Jeffrey, was born about 3 minutes before I was. He had a nonpatent esophagus, and in late-1955, doctors had neither the knowledge nor the inclination to save him. He succumbed within a few days of profound malnutrition. Likewise, I had some birth defects too. Dean and I were premature and born to a woman of age 34 ... very late gestational maternal age in the mid-1950s. Today, medical science is advanced enough to be able to save a baby born this way. My records say the old man was a smooth-talking salesman and my birth mother was a petite and shapely secretary. They worked in the same office. My bro and I are the product of their intra-office, extracurricular, carnal dalliance. Today, this is no big deal. In the mid-1950s, it was shameful and scandalous beyond measure. You see, they were married to other people. Babies like my bro and me immediately got shipped off to the adoption agency. The times, they HAVE a-changed.
Mind you, I only found this all out a few years ago. You see, I'm adopted. For years and years, I had this strange, inexplicable feeling about my having a twin out there somewhere. That's the God's honest truth. The adoptive parents NEVER told me this ... or ANYTHING about my real history. I had to seek it out myself in later middle age.
Just imagine having that peculiar feeling for years that you have a twin out there ... and then finding out that you DID! An IDENTICAL twin. No joke. No lie. It happened. Now, is THAT freaky, or what? True story.
:'( Lacey
Wow thats crazy!
There were ID twins who both went MtF in South Africa, I'm going back 30 plus years. They looked pretty id afterwards as well. Does your twin have any GID?
Interesting
Cindy
Lacey.
I can really understand how that information must have affected you. Take care love.
Lacey: that's an interesting story.
It's so strange how you grow up learning and adjusting yourself and the world and then find out later in life how much of it you actually didn't know and it just throws you off.
And I think twins have strange senses. My twin and I will call each other at the same time then get the busy signal a lot. Also what was weird is that my sister was rushed into labour and gave birth to her baby all while I was at work, and on my break I had this weird feeling that she giving birth and called her and then my mom and no answer. I later found out she did and at the same time my break was. And I didn't know she was even in the hospital.
I feel like if I didn't know about her that I could have a feeling she was out there, so that makes a lot of sense to me.
Also rven though my twin grew up hanging out with boys and doing boyish things with me she is now so girly it's hard to believe that she was once a tomboy.
Thanks for posting. I had been wondering about trans people with identical twins. (Namely if both tend to be trans or not)
I just have an older brother, but people tend to refer to us as the twins. He is taller and skinnier, but we look and act a lot alike.
Quote from: jayunit on January 22, 2011, 09:58:12 PM
How does she feel about you being ftm? like were you guys close growing up and did your parents dress you the same and stuff as kids?
My sister isn't very fond of the idea of me being FTM. She thinks I'm sinning [like my parents do]. So its hard.
When we were younger our parents let us dress the way we wanted [most of the time]. But sometimes they did dress us up alike. I naturally was a tomboy so I gravitated towards more tomeboyish clothes and my sister liked more girly stuff.
Quote from: spacial on January 23, 2011, 06:39:47 AM
I kinda think you are. :laugh:
Yeah! Darned if wasn't thinkin' EXACTLY the same thing! Patty & Roxy could be indentical twins and maybe even should be ... yeehaw!
Ignore me! I'm weirding-out on you! Just jokin' around.
:D Lacey
Quote from: Lacey Lynne on January 24, 2011, 10:39:35 PM
Yeah! Darned if wasn't thinkin' EXACTLY the same thing! Patty & Roxy could be indentical twins and maybe even should be ... yeehaw! Quote from: spacial on January 23, 2011, 06:39:47 AM
I kinda think you are. :laugh:
Quote from: jayunit on January 22, 2011, 09:59:47 PM
heheh I am assuming that's the two of you in your avatar, it's a cute picture. =) you could pass as twins
Thanks we always love being called the Erocse Twins. I know that is odd. We went to the store together the other day and the cashier said, "You two are sisters! My sisters and I don't look alike at all." She went on and on. We had a laugh in the car.
Hugs.
Patty & Roxy
Quote from: CindyJames on January 24, 2011, 03:27:14 AM
There were ID twins who both went MtF in South Africa, I'm going back 30 plus years. They looked pretty id afterwards as well. Does your twin have any GID?
Interesting
Cindy
Far out, Cindy!
Actually, once I came out to myself, went to my gender counselor, got diagnosed as transsexual, started HRT and began transitioning, I REALLY wondered:
"Christ Almight! Since we were IDENTICAL twins, my bro' woulda been trans too!"
Like, Freak City, man! Had he survived, could you imagine two of me? Heaven help us! Two free-wheeling, born-maverick, word-slinging, aging, transsexual, hippie chicks driving EVERYBODY crazy with words and weirdness.
"Beam me up, Scotty! Get me the heck outta here ... now!"
Well, I'll just hang out with Mr. Spock if everybody bales out on me. He's my kinda guy anyway.
:D Lacey
Quote from: Mrs Erocse on January 24, 2011, 10:48:39 PM
Thanks we always love being called the Erocse Twins. I know that is odd. We went to the store together the other day and the cashier said, "You two are sisters! My sisters and I don't look alike at all." She went on and on. We had a laugh in the car.
Hugs.
Patty & Roxy
Like, The Erocse Twins are SOOO pissed at me! They think I'm a butthole for not returning their many calls. And, they are right!
"Forgive me, Father, for I have been a butthole! I will do my penance. Fie upon me!"
Alright you two. When you two come cruising through Portland again in the warmer weather (Patty and her sister LOVE malls just like I do!), I'll be in decent shape and plan on presenting well fully en femme and be kinda hot for a geezer gal. Whippin' it on at L.A. Fitness again. Saw must-have shorts in the Victoria's Secret catalogue. Doggone if I ain't gonna buy 'em and wear 'em! Patty, Roxy and I will cruise that mall and knock 'em all out! Yeehaw!
Actually, The Erocse Twins are so amazing! I love the heck outta both of 'em!
:D Lacey
Lacey,
You are so silly, we have never been offended at you. Yes we will go cruising the Mall together the next time we are in town.
Hugs.
Patty & Roxy
I have a twin but we're not identical. Its a twin brother so we can't be identical (since I was born in a female body). I always thought that we were sorta switched. Like I should have been the guy and he should have been the girl (based only on the fact that he's gay).
I don't know though. Maybe that's something only I would think about. xD
Brent, that is an interesting story? Thank you for sharing it.
Hugs,
Patty
Quote from: Mrs Erocse on January 24, 2011, 10:48:39 PM
Thanks we always love being called the Erocse Twins. I know that is odd. We went to the store together the other day and the cashier said, "You two are sisters! My sisters and I don't look alike at all." She went on and on. We had a laugh in the car.
Hugs.
Patty & Roxy
I can imagine you tow would be like two sisters, having a great time and just knowing what the other is thinking.
If I could, I'd gladly follow you around, just for the fun. I'm sure I wouldn't be alone.
Yet another reason for the rest of the world to love you both.
Thank you Spacial. We would love to hang out with you too. I am sure it would be a blast. I hope life will afford us the opportunity someday. :) England?
Hugs.
Patty
Quote from: Mrs Erocse on January 25, 2011, 05:35:12 PM
Thank you Spacial. We would love to hang out with you too. I am sure it would be a blast. I hope life will afford us the opportunity someday. :) England?
Hugs.
Patty
If you ever do manage to come to England, I promise to move heaven and earth to find a way to see you.
I would love to return to Washington, for a visit. But it isn't going to happen in the foreseeable future, sadly.
Come to think of it, I have a feeling you may find yourselves surrounded by a number of British members. We could hire a bus!
That study looks intresting Perlita. Sadly, I can't find anything more than abstracts.
I did find this, however. Not the neuropsychology you love so much, but a behavioural study. Written to include the usual holes. (Never mind).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687476/ (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687476/)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687477/ (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687477/)
Quote from: jayunit on January 22, 2011, 06:44:01 PM
Hahahah that's cool. =D yeah I guess my twin and I don't reaaally look a like but if you heard us talk and laugh we're exactly the same.
if anyone wants to post pictures that'd be cool too I could get some if anyone is interested. It would be neat to see.
Sure I'll post a picture. I'll be expecting one from you too xD.
I'll do a side by side comparison. He's on the left, I'm on the right.
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hahah that's cool. I can kind of see your relation to each other from the facial expressions but you look very different.
here's one of my twin on the left, obviously, and myself on the right. pretty funny eh
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-snc6%2Fhs242.snc6%2F179034_1812301195188_1469783177_2011090_6581021_n.jpg&hash=f52cdf6046551af35e61ba4c42b6d80b3bcd05b1)
Wow completely different. I would never have thought you were identical.
I know right hahahah you can only really tell in person that we act alike. but most people think I am a lot younger than her hahah.
My mom had a miscarriage when she was pregnant with me that was supposedly my twin...
If I remember the story it was relatively early in the pregnancy and my mother was unawares that I was still there afterwards. Who knows... we may have been identical.
Quote from: Kaelleria on February 05, 2011, 02:21:11 PM
My mom had a miscarriage when she was pregnant with me that was supposedly my twin...
If I remember the story it was relatively early in the pregnancy and my mother was unawares that I was still there afterwards. Who knows... we may have been identical.
I'm sorry to hear that :(
I don't know what I would do without my twin. :(
Quote from: JayUnit on February 05, 2011, 03:10:31 PM
I'm sorry to hear that :(
I don't know what I would do without my twin. :(
Oh man I feel the same way. I love my twin. He's like my best friend.
This year is hard because he's in WV for school. First time being away from him. Now I don't have anybody to tell my secrets. :(
Quote from: Brent123 on February 05, 2011, 04:24:46 PM
Oh man I feel the same way. I love my twin. He's like my best friend.
This year is hard because he's in WV for school. First time being away from him. Now I don't have anybody to tell my secrets. :(
Aw that sucks! I know how you feel. My twin moved away for college and I didn't see her much for 2 years then she moves back home. But then a year later I moved away. It's weird now though because she has a 1 year old girl hahah it's still hard to believe.
Quote from: JayUnit on February 05, 2011, 04:28:56 PM
Aw that sucks! I know how you feel. My twin moved away for college and I didn't see her much for 2 years then she moves back home. But then a year later I moved away. It's weird now though because she has a 1 year old girl hahah it's still hard to believe.
Well you get to spoil your niece now xD
Question though. How did your sister take you being trans?
Quote from: Brent123 on February 05, 2011, 04:34:26 PM
Well you get to spoil your niece now xD
Question though. How did your sister take you being trans?
For the longest time she just didn't get it at all. After I started hormones and stuff she started to understand a little but still called me by my birth name and she, and refers to me as aunt to her kid... which doesn't matter now anyway because her kid is so young.
When we went out drinking together with our little sister this past summer she noticed other people calling me he and seeing me as a guy so that was the first time where she tried to watch what she said and call me her brother. I guess when you know someone for so long even after they transition people can still see you as what you were before and it just takes other people to see you for who you are for them to get it.
So she's never been against it or mad at me about it, she just still thinks I'm an extention of gay or something.
Quote from: JayUnit on February 05, 2011, 03:10:31 PM
I'm sorry to hear that :(
I don't know what I would do without my twin. :(
My twins say this about each other all the time, even when they fight. I don't understand it but it is what it is.
But a couple of months ago we had a birthday party and she brought people that she works with. She had told them that I was her lesbian sister :/ so that made it kind of awkward for me since I have facial hair and a deep voice ... and the fact that they are Christian and have told her that I am going to hell. I was kind of mad at her for that hahah especially on my birthday getting called she and stuff like that.
Quote from: JayUnit on February 05, 2011, 04:53:26 PM
For the longest time she just didn't get it at all. After I started hormones and stuff she started to understand a little but still called me by my birth name and she, and refers to me as aunt to her kid... which doesn't matter now anyway because her kid is so young.
When we went out drinking together with our little sister this past summer she noticed other people calling me he and seeing me as a guy so that was the first time where she tried to watch what she said and call me her brother. I guess when you know someone for so long even after they transition people can still see you as what you were before and it just takes other people to see you for who you are for them to get it.
So she's never been against it or mad at me about it, she just still thinks I'm an extention of gay or something.
Ahh I see. The reason I'm asking is because I want to tell my brother. I want him to be the first person in my family that I tell. I feel like he'll be pretty understanding about it because he is gay and we are in the same community. I'm not sure though. I've got my fingers crossed.