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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Topic started by: BridgetBby on February 17, 2011, 04:47:05 AM

Title: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: BridgetBby on February 17, 2011, 04:47:05 AM
seems to be a reoccurring theme im noticing...
why is that? ???
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Devyn on February 17, 2011, 04:59:19 AM
Obsessed is a strong word.

Besides, I haven't noticed that.

If you think we're "obsessed", go to an anime convention. Just saying.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: LordKAT on February 17, 2011, 06:12:29 AM
I don't  like it much at all. I doubt I'm the only one and I haven't noticed it to be any kind of trend.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Espenoah on February 17, 2011, 06:41:14 AM
I think obsessed is the wrong word. :/ And not all fans that go to conventions are obsessed either.... *cough*me*cough* But I have noticed that more anime fans are trans than the general population. I think it's because the fandom is a generally very accepting group that are exposed to more alternative lifestyles than most (Not saying being trans is a lifestyle, just couldn't think of a different word.)

I have also met plenty of girls at conventions that say they are trans because they love yaoi (anime centered on men on men relationships if anyone didn't know). These girls tend to change their mind later on when they realize being gay trans males isn't so glamorous as anime makes it seem. Not all yaoi fans who are trans are like this (again, me >.>), but I have definitely seen it happen.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Shang on February 17, 2011, 06:47:34 AM
Quote from: Espenoah on February 17, 2011, 06:41:14 AM
I think obsessed is the wrong word. :/ And not all fans that go to conventions are obsessed either.... *cough*me*cough* But I have noticed that more anime fans are trans than the general population. I think it's because the fandom is a generally very accepting group that are exposed to more alternative lifestyles than most (Not saying being trans is a lifestyle, just couldn't think of a different word.)

I have also met plenty of girls at conventions that say they are trans because they love yaoi (anime centered on men on men relationships if anyone didn't know). These girls tend to change their mind later on when they realize being gay trans males isn't so glamorous as anime makes it seem. Not all yaoi fans who are trans are like this (again, me >.>), but I have definitely seen it happen.

I'm going to agree. :D

Anyway, I've met more non-trans anime fans than I have trans anime fans.  Anime and a like of Japan seems to be the "in" thing so lots of people are watching it and thinking about going to the place.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: VeryGnawty on February 17, 2011, 08:03:56 AM
The answer is so simple.  It's called:  bishounen.

I mean, seriously.  What is more appealing than some prettyboy with long hair fighting some overly macho dude while the both of them jump around fighting while blasting each other with unrealistic powers and abilities?  Don't say Superman, because Superman has nothing on half of the anime series ever made.

Yeah, I'm a complete sucker for anime.  I admit it.  I watch Dragonball Z (oh the shame!) and I like most of the anime I have seen, although most of them will get "old" after the first season or two.

I also have the first season of Bleach on DVD, because the first season of Bleach is awesome.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: E on February 17, 2011, 08:09:50 AM
Here's me reporting in - I don't care for anime at all, but I'm studying Japanese. The reason for that is Japan's unique history as the only non-European colonial power. Rather geeky, I admit, but then again I'm a geek.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: rar on February 17, 2011, 08:30:40 AM
Japanese: it's pretty
Anime: fantastic comic timing

I don't think I'd count as obsessed, though. Avid, maybe.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: PixieBoy on February 17, 2011, 09:52:48 AM
I only like certain anime, so I wouldn't count myself as a fan of it. I'm obsessed with the works of Jhonen Vasquez, but not anime/manga, hehe.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: toxicblue on February 17, 2011, 10:08:39 AM
I like anime a lot, but I'm definitely not obsessed with it, nor do I want to be too associated too strongly with the anime culture.  This is mainly because so many people who are into it get so hyped up on hormones and either watch/read boy on boy anime/manga, or shows with as much female fanservice as possible, all the while getting involved in stupid fantasies and being sheltered from real life.  Of course, not everyone is like that, but there's enough out there like that to really annoy me.  The reason I like anime is because I can respect the quality and uniqueness that so many shows offer that you can hardly find anywhere else, while avoiding shows that only have a sole purpose of turning people on.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Tamaki on February 17, 2011, 10:30:30 AM
Mostly, it's just the hot things right now.

My interest in anime came after my interest in traditional Japanese gardens. I've even gone a garden tour in Kyoto which has sparked my interest in Japanese food. It's a vicious cycle.

Bishounen and Yaoi are not my thing, at all. I fact my terrible secret are some of the more Shojo anime like kimi no todoke and the very occasional mahou shoujo.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Rock_chick on February 17, 2011, 01:12:04 PM
Yay for inaccurate stereotypes ;D
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: spacial on February 17, 2011, 02:54:53 PM
I would love to see some decent, online anime, especially dealing with transgender issues. But without exception, every anime site I've been on has left me some nasty or other which slows my computer and takes ages to get rid of.

My avitar is from anime, but I found it on a site with aviatrs and chose it because it's so positive. To be honest, I thought it was a girl, but someone here told me, ages ago, it's a boy and even said his name.

Now that was an anime fan!!
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Wraith on February 17, 2011, 09:36:17 PM
Quote from: VeryGnawty on February 17, 2011, 08:03:56 AMDon't say Superman, because Superman has nothing on half of the anime series ever made.
Superman doesn't count as a prettyboy to begin with, he's just a dork, so.. ;)


I don't really have much interest in anime anymore, but I used to watch a lot of it a couple of years back. For me it was great because I had a hard time relating to real people at the time. Plus, I love animation and art in general.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Arctic Kat on February 17, 2011, 11:36:49 PM
Quote from: spacial on February 17, 2011, 02:54:53 PM
I would love to see some decent, online anime, especially dealing with transgender issues. But without exception, every anime site I've been on has left me some nasty or other which slows my computer and takes ages to get rid of.

My avitar is from anime, but I found it on a site with aviatrs and chose it because it's so positive. To be honest, I thought it was a girl, but someone here told me, ages ago, it's a boy and even said his name.

Now that was an anime fan!!

I recognized your avatar right away -- it's Sailor Venus, a character from Sailor Moon. (I am a huge Sailor Moon nerd...)

I don't really know where the idea that she's a boy came from. She's a girl... Her secret identity is Minako Aino.
She's a heroine who fights for love and justice, one of nine guardians who protects Earth from evil forces....

I could go on and on, but I digress.


Carrying on...
I was heavily into anime from 1999 until about 2003, my high school years. I've long since grown out of my geeky phase, but I'm an artist and my style of drawing is still influenced by anime -- it's part of who I am, a residual part of my lifestyle.
Anime was part of my adolescence, and I can't see myself letting go of it.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: spacial on February 18, 2011, 06:59:27 AM
Quote from: Arctic Kat on February 17, 2011, 11:36:49 PM
I recognized your avatar right away -- it's Sailor Venus, a character from Sailor Moon. (I am a huge Sailor Moon nerd...)

I don't really know where the idea that she's a boy came from. She's a girl... Her secret identity is Minako Aino.
She's a heroine who fights for love and justice, one of nine guardians who protects Earth from evil forces....

That makes me feel a lot better.

Thank you so much. She's just the sort of heroine I would want to associate with.  :)
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Miniar on February 18, 2011, 09:04:53 AM
yeah,... no...
Not a big anime fan.
Never seen a show I "liked".
Don't generally like manga either.
Though I lol'd reading one a while back, mostly cause it was so stupid it was funny.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Fuji on February 18, 2011, 09:59:56 AM
I don't know what would make anyone think "a lot" of people here are anime obsessed.  I've seen a few people with anime avatars and a handful of us talk about trans anime on the TV board, but it's a significant minority, as far as I can tell.  Maybe there's a secret trans anime-fan underbelly I have yet to meet.

I'm an fan, but I'm certainly not obsessed.  I started out watching 2nd gen anime with lesbian and gender-bending themes (Sailor Moon has Sailor Uranus, who dresses and presents as a man (later, a villain named FishEye who presents as female, and three men who magically transform into women); Revolutionary Girl Utena has a girl who wants to be a "prince" and another girl who is a pants-wearing lesbian).

I think the nature of anime to address more complicated themes has attracted gender deviants to it.

Now there are even a few anime that have trans characters in them.  It makes sense to me- when was the last time you saw a western cartoon about a transsexual?  I'm not the type that thinks japanese animation is "better" than western animation (some are way good, some are so bad it hurts!), but because of the history of the country and the medium, animation has a different role in Japan, and the things that make it different allow for the formation of a niche group of fans.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: toxicblue on February 18, 2011, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: spacial on February 17, 2011, 02:54:53 PM
I would love to see some decent, online anime, especially dealing with transgender issues. But without exception, every anime site I've been on has left me some nasty or other which slows my computer and takes ages to get rid of.

Check out the show Wandering Son on crunchyroll.com.  Firstly, the site is completely 100% safe and legal (but that means you'll have commercials) and secondly, the show is about two middle school students dealing with transgender issues.  It's very realistic, but very good.  It's still airing in Japan though so they only have four free episodes up right now.  And yes, it's subtitled.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Elijah3291 on February 18, 2011, 11:02:57 AM
eh honestly i HATE anime, this guy came over to my house and kept trying to get me to watch his stupid animie game, i think its annoying

i used to be into manga, back in high school, because it was a fun hobby and more interesting then reading, dont do it anymore, and i wasnt a HUGE fan of it even then, it was just something i enjoyed reading
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: kyril on February 18, 2011, 11:23:34 AM
I actually hate anime. Like, to an irrational level. I had an ex who was anime-obsessed, and I found it to be by far the most annoying, unpleasant form of putative entertainment that I've ever been exposed to, and that was while we were together. Now it's all that plus it reminds me of a guy I can't stand.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Nero on February 18, 2011, 11:32:31 AM
Because anime has bigger boobs.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: thathalfjapaneseirishboy on February 18, 2011, 03:42:08 PM
I'm part Japanese, but I honestly am not much of an anime/manga fan. I read or watch one once a year. =P
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: JustAnotherDreamer on February 18, 2011, 05:11:04 PM
meh.. it doesn't interest me in the slightest.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: spacial on February 18, 2011, 05:20:51 PM
Quote from: toxicblue on February 18, 2011, 10:16:15 AM
Check out the show Wandering Son on crunchyroll.com.  Firstly, the site is completely 100% safe and legal (but that means you'll have commercials) and secondly, the show is about two middle school students dealing with transgender issues.  It's very realistic, but very good.  It's still airing in Japan though so they only have four free episodes up right now.  And yes, it's subtitled.

I've watched the first episode. Looks interesting. But this is the first time I've tried to watch anime.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: JennX on February 18, 2011, 05:43:13 PM
Quote from: Helena on February 17, 2011, 01:12:04 PM
Yay for inaccurate stereotypes ;D

This X 10000000000000 FTMF loss.

I like anime, but obsessed? Hardly. Most of my guy friends are way, way, way more into anime, than I could ever dream of being. Being trans and a fan of anime/manga are sometimes mutually exclusive, or to put it another way, just a coincidence.
;)
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Inanna on February 18, 2011, 09:15:00 PM
Anime and manga seem to be a lot more accepting of both gender variance and homosexuality, aka yaoi and yuri.  Countless series have a cross-dressing or gender bending theme, many of which are mainstream.  Off the top of my head.... Hana Kimi, Ranma 1/2, Kashimashi, Pretty Face, 1/2 Prince, Kampfer... uhm I could go on a while.

Having been raised in the southeast US, it's nothing short of therapeutic for me to watch these lighthearted series with lgbt topics.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: MeghanAndrews on February 18, 2011, 10:24:27 PM
I have a theory. I think that younger people today <25 tend to gravitate toward Japan/Anime/Swords/Kanji because Japanese culture seems a little more fluid with regard to gender expression. Look at the difference between male and female characters in anime, just the faces. Fairly gender neutral compared to Western counterparts. I personally don't get it, I don't like anime or swords, etc. I do think it's neat that it's a cultural thing and allows people, sometimes socially repressed people, to express themselves in ways that they wouldn't have been able to before. I think that there must be some correlation between the fascination with Japanese culture & anime with the amount of time one spends on the computer, lol.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Fuji on February 18, 2011, 10:43:40 PM
Personally, I don't accept yaoi/yuri/genderswitch anime as evidence of diversity and tolerance in the medium, because it objectifies the people and situations in them.  I'm a fan of yaoi, but I also understand that it is 100% objectification, and completely unrealistic.  Yuri is sometimes nice to read too, but hinges on the idea of the "shoujo"- a passive and sexually immature girl- so yuri too is usually unrealistic.

Yaoi and yuri are popular, that's why there are so many.  Not because anyone is tolerant or sensitive to gay and lesbian issues.

I don't consider Ranma 1/2 to be an anime about a transexual.  It has a character that changes sex, but its not like he is a transexual like we might identify with.  Ranma changes sex against his will, and his changes are played up for humor, titillation, and chauvinism.

PS, I love Ranma 1/2.  I just think it's incorrect to assume our favorite anime are progressive.  We don't love them because they are progressive, but because they are consumable and fun.

One of the reasons anime is so popular is because of the anime/manga consumer culture in Japan.  Series are created in order to keep people watching, reading, and buying merchandise for as long as possible, and usually at the expense of a decent plot resolution or original forms of character development.  But those "hooking" elements - moe characters, pervert humor, chronic miscommunication, high school drama, UST- are what make them fun, and make them a niche that anime fans, like me, enjoy indulging in.

Few anime are actually progressive.  I think the anime I'd consider to handle gender issues in a thoughtful or realistic manner I can count on one hand.  I think there are more RL movies trans people can identify with then there are anime they can identify with. I identified trans with characters in two anime EVER, Sailor Moon and Wandering Son.

That all said, I don't mean to negate what I said earlier about anime being accessible to gender variant people.  Because anime is marketed at children and adults (though they are separate, often aimed at EITHER girls or boys, or women or men)  they can deal with more complicated topics.  You're more likely to see a gay character in a cartoon in Japan then you are in American because some anime are marketed to adults.  And some, it turns out, aren't even played as the punchline.

Anime is not progressive as a medium, but within the medium, as in any other, there are gems that really reach out and touch us in the way art is supposed to.


Edit: Wow, do I sound bitchy or what?  I find anime fascinating, but I also want to keep it in perspective.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Inanna on February 18, 2011, 11:42:13 PM
I think there's a difference between progressive and accepting.  Ranma 1/2 is not progressive about gender intentionally, but it is definitely accepting of gender variance in its own weird way.  After all, I doubt a continously sex-changing protagonist would appear in mainstream American media.  Ultimately I believe the series is progressive without even meaning to, by simply showing that a person's body does not always reflect who they are inside.  It accustoms the cisgendered person to gender dysphoria, in a reverse way.

Also, I'm not always looking for a realistic take on trans issues.  Let's face it... reality for transgendered people could be a lot better.  Sometimes it's nice to have a fun little escape where a person's physical sex is completely changeable.  And.. who knows?  This may be possible within our lifetimes.  I certainly hope that it is.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: xAndrewx on February 18, 2011, 11:51:01 PM
Quote from: kyril on February 18, 2011, 11:23:34 AM
I actually hate anime. Like, to an irrational level. I had an ex who was anime-obsessed, and I found it to be by far the most annoying, unpleasant form of putative entertainment that I've ever been exposed to

Same here though in my ex's case it was because that was all she was interested in. That and animated stuff like South Park and Family guy. Nothing wrong with others liking it but I hate it and since my ex lived with me it was constantly on ugh
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Arctic Kat on February 19, 2011, 02:04:34 AM
For me, watching cartoons offered escapism from the real world.
As a little kid, I loved watching cartoons -- Looney Tunes, Disney movies, Hanna Barbera stuff...
I preferred anything animated over live action -- because anything can happen in cartoons.

I saw Who Framed Roger Rabbit? when I was in kindergarden and wished cartoon characters really did coexist with humans. I even wished I that was a toon... :P
Toons are very expressive, and I wished I had that same ability to express myself in the real world.

In retrospect, as a transsexual, my early fascination with cartoons was probably the result of me feeling restricted in my own body.
Toons can express themselves however they want, but I -- restricted to a boy's body -- was unable to express myself however I wanted.

...

I fell in love with anime when it started getting popular in America. I was a teenager at the time, and I was in awe over Sailor Moon. It had much more sophisticated storytelling and character development than anything I had ever seen in American television.
Sailor Moon was a super heroine, but she struggled with school grades, romance, other adolescent issues....
Anime characters seem very human, as opposed to, say, Looney Tunes who exist for slapstick comic relief.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: kyril on February 19, 2011, 03:22:57 AM
Quote from: Rabbit on February 18, 2011, 09:48:04 PM
Basically, the only people who "hate anime" are those that dislike it because everyone else likes it (or those who have never actually watched it and only can think it means sailor moon or hentai).... and then, even those that claim they "hate it" then go on to say they enjoyed movies like "Grave of the fireflies" or "Spirited Away".
No, I don't want to be to be "That Guy," but I actually really hate it. I don't generally liek cartoons/animated media/comics at all, and I find anime even more grating than Western animation. I don't get the humour (a peculiar variant of slapstick). I don't like the genre conventions of characterization. I don't like the artistic style. I'm exceedingly annoyed by the pervasive reliance on repetition and catch phrases. I don't find any of it funny (and believe me, God knows I've been exposed to enough) and I have yet to see any 'serious' anime I found particularly compelling at a level comparable to the stuff I actually do like to watch.

There was one series I found watchable (Neon Genesis: Evangelion) because the plot was good. But it was watchable despite being anime, not in any way because it was anime. I might have liked it a lot if it had been live-acted. That's the only exception I make, and that only barely, and I'd still never watch it again by choice, even if my ex weren't a factor.

As for the comedy and children's series...I'd rather watch reality TV. I'd be more amused by a 48-hour Jerry Springer marathon than by Ranma. And that's one of the better ones. Cowboy Bebop...well, I think I'd rather gouge my eyes out with a spoon.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: jmaxley on February 19, 2011, 03:24:11 AM
Never gotten into anime, though I like some of the art style.  For the most part, watching TV at all just doesn't do much for me.  Not really into comic books either, so no manga either.  I do however love Bento boxes and Rement.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Silver on February 19, 2011, 06:11:35 AM
Doesn't look like a lot are obsessed here to me. In fact, it seems like most are not into it.

Anyway it's popular right now so naturally a lot of young people will be into it. I don't see anything odd going on here at all.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: spacial on February 19, 2011, 07:03:21 AM
Having watched two episodes of Wandering Son, and seen a number of stills, plus a few short clips, I get the impression that anime is seeking a more thougtful, perhaps tender approach to story telling.

Most US animation seems to be alluding to slapstick. People getting hurt, but suffering no effects.

British animation tends to try to exagerate local cultural characteristics.

French seems to like to emphasise aristrcratic or salt of the earth type characters. Only seen a few French animations.

I have to say, I'm finding anime a little hard going. The colours are nice to look at, but the story lines are a little slow emerging. Also, it's a bit tricky having to read subtitles while watching for visual nuances. I tried skimming the subtitles, but found important points tended to come suddenly and I could miss them. Though the drawing is really quite good.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Sera on February 19, 2011, 08:46:29 AM
It is just TV.  If it is on, I will watch it. If a friend is watching it, I will watch it with them.  But I will not go out of my way to buy/download them to watch myself.  I am not a big fan of TV, but I do enjoy watching shows such as Criminal Minds, Supernatural, and NCIS, mostly for family value, or for interest in all the psychopaths that show up :]

I do go to an anime convention every now and then if I am not to be saving money for something, but I mostly go because I have two friends that go, usually for whatever Japanese band is stopping in, and I love spending time with them.  My favorite part is just being in a hotel together for an entire weekend.  I do not get to see them very often otherwise.

I wear a lot of asian influenced clothing, but let us all face it; Abercrombie and fitch sucks.  I just can not be a blue jeans and T-shirt guy, because I have a mind, unlike most men.

Also, Japane has a beautiful landscape, so I would not mind visiting it one day to see its moss covered carpet of an island.  I also would not mind seeing China.... Iceland... Scotland.... Everything but America.  At least where I live, I wish there was no sun, so I could not see how ugly the world is..

When I was 14 I used to listen to Jrock and spend like 3 hours a day watching anime shows on crunchyroll or youtube [back in the day before they cared!], but that was five years ago, and I mostly got into that because I liked a girl that was into it, so I wanted to be more like her! But hey, now I say, Jrock is a step up over American music.  American music sucks.  Now I am mostly into European bands, usually from France or a related country such as Canada.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: meh on February 19, 2011, 05:29:37 PM
I'm part Japanese so I am kind of naturally interested in Japanese culture. I'm not an otaku though.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Apricot on February 19, 2011, 06:34:08 PM
Hate anime, love manga. I always found that funny. The look and format of Japanese art feels very expressive on paper, but put it to film and it just looked stiff and annoying to me.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Elijah3291 on February 20, 2011, 04:12:51 AM
Quote from: Apricot on February 19, 2011, 06:34:08 PM
Hate anime, love manga. I always found that funny. The look and format of Japanese art feels very expressive on paper, but put it to film and it just looked stiff and annoying to me.

good way of putting it, I agree
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Aikotribs on February 20, 2011, 06:24:52 AM
sorry not a fanatic, despite what my icon tells you.

I like most animation films and series in general, hell I even studied 2 years of animation. Anime has some good ones for grown ups, lotsa blood lotsa fighting and no filtered language. Where I'm from animation series are ONLY for children, so I only got anime that I have to get true cons or other people if I want to watch something interesting. And since I'm REALLY picky I only have very few I like. And I stay the hell away from anything porn or romance related
If its not for 8 to 12 year olds they seem refuse showing it on tv here. But it could have been any western style.

But yeah I do go to a con to sell my art (no not anime, just anthro's and dragons) and real animefans are downright scary.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: VeronikaFTH on February 20, 2011, 12:48:18 PM
I don't think this is limited to anime only, it applies to any sort of interest, hobby, or social group that is more accepting of people who are different from the norm, or allow people to be alone but still get some kind of stimulation. And it all stems from the fact that most of us usually don't fit in anywhere else.

I think this is why you will notice higher number of younger people with interests like anime -- Or perhaps a large number of people who play World of Warcraft (the younger crowd), or who identified with certain subcultures growing up (goth, punk, emo, etc... Misfits hang out with other misfits). Many of us appear to be computer geeks.  Older people who didn't grow up with these things might have taken up some other hobby that they could do alone, or with a more accepting social group.

Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: AweSAM! on February 20, 2011, 01:57:43 PM
I've never been into anime or manga. I do some language studies, except those are mostly domestic. Me =/= this particular stereotype. My interests just lie elsewhere.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Ribbons on February 20, 2011, 09:09:58 PM
We're a group of people.

Go onto any forum and you'll see both anime fans and video game fans.  It's quite popular, especially online.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Skyanne on February 25, 2011, 07:15:56 PM
Quote from: Westsidebtch69 on February 25, 2011, 07:14:25 PM
Why did I even open this thread?

I don't know. It seems to be the nectar of geeky type folks. Anime sucks unless someone is getting hurt or it's the Boondocks. That show is hella fun.

Psh, club going nerd.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Skyanne on February 25, 2011, 07:29:43 PM
Quote from: Westsidebtch69 on February 25, 2011, 07:26:30 PM
If they are into anime, that means some of them are furries. OMG, I thought those people just dressed up as sports mascots. But they have "other motives".

My b/f is into Japanese culture and he says, "all those cat eared people" and I am like, "I know, right homie Huh?"

I know! Geez, some of them might even be like...transsexuals or something! What a bunch of weirdo's huh?
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Skyanne on February 25, 2011, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Westsidebtch69 on February 25, 2011, 07:31:48 PM
Are you attempting to bait me?

No way homie, we're cool! Word.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Skyanne on February 25, 2011, 07:44:20 PM
Quote from: Westsidebtch69 on February 25, 2011, 07:43:30 PM
OMG. No one has said word since Vanilla Ice.

Actually the female pronoun of homie is "Homiella"

Oh, sorry dawgette.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: BridgetBby on February 25, 2011, 08:05:36 PM
ok i mean it was fun in elementary school and maybe middleschool but really im just like growup =/
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Skyanne on February 25, 2011, 08:20:34 PM
Quote from: BridgetBby on February 25, 2011, 08:05:36 PM
ok i mean it was fun in elementary school and maybe middleschool but really im just like growup =/

Well, on a kinda more serious note, I think the mature attitude here is to let people enjoy the things that make them happy. You don't have to like them, but it's silly to point fingers and say this is mature, this is immature, this is geeky, etc. It's very subjective.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: PixieBoy on February 26, 2011, 07:10:51 AM
I am a HUGE geek. There, I said it. Been playing tabletop roleplaying games since I was 6 years old, been playing computer games since kindergarten, reading comics since forever. However, I am not very easy to please when it comes to anime. In my opinion, most of it is bad (well, that which I've seen). I like the Miyazaki stuff (Princess Mononoke, My Neighbour Totoro, Porco Rosso, Laputa), an anime called Aoi Hana (lesbian highschool drama, gorgeously animated), and one called Dennou Coil (kind of like what would happen if Miyazaki and William Gibson worked together; beautiful cyberpunk for kids).
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Serra on February 26, 2011, 01:40:24 PM
Quote from: WeStSideButt on February 25, 2011, 08:10:34 PM
Not to mention a lot of anime is incredibly childish.
Yeah, there's a lot of live action films that are incredibly childish, clearly the whole body of work should be dismissed. ::)  Honestly, anyone who says all Anime is for children needs to see some of the other works out there.  Elfen Lied, Ghost in the Shell, Darker Than Black, and others.
I won't say I'm obsessed, but I do enjoy it heavily.  I seek out new Anime on a regular basis, go to conventions when money/time permits, and even cosplay some.  But I have zero plans to learn Japanese or visit japan.  I just enjoy the style of work, couldn't tell you why.
As for why there seems to be a higher percentage of fans, I'd say the Anime avatars make them more visible.  In addition, as someone said, Anime/manga seem to be more tolerant of gender variance than western works, which would be a natural draw.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: suzannemarie on February 26, 2011, 01:52:20 PM
i think a lot of trans are huge sci-fi fantasy fans as well. it seems like there are a lot of comic nerds too. (like myself)
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: spacial on February 26, 2011, 03:43:02 PM
Quote from: BridgetBby on February 25, 2011, 08:05:36 PM
ok i mean it was fun in elementary school and maybe middleschool but really im just like growup =/

I've watched 3 episodes of Wandering Son and tend to agree.

I can see the attraction. It's kinda gentle and safe. Relationships are, for the most part, non-threatening. Feelings are expressed openly.

But It seems to lack substance, for my tastes. And it's painfully slow.

I must say, I am very grateful for the tip on crunchyroll.com It seems to be a good source.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: rar on February 26, 2011, 06:53:32 PM
Quote from: spacial on February 26, 2011, 03:43:02 PMBut It seems to lack substance, for my tastes...

*cough* Haibane Renmei *cough* Time of Eve *cough*
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: spacial on February 27, 2011, 06:44:56 AM
Quote from: rar on February 26, 2011, 06:53:32 PM
*cough* Haibane Renmei *cough* Time of Eve *cough*

Thank you. I'll check that out when I can.

I do hope your caugh gets better.  ;D
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: MasterAsh on February 27, 2011, 07:22:21 PM
I just dig animation altogether.

Live-action series and movies usually feel very restricted to me. The few live-action works few I do latch on to have very animated characters or scripts, but even an animated work in a contemporary setting will win my attention over a live-action interpretation. For example, I've enjoyed the likes of The Drew Carey Show, Married...With Children, and Scrubs, but I'd much rather watch King of the Hill, The Oblongs, and South Park.

So far in my life, I've been far more emotionally invested in characters portrayed in animation than in live-action, with the casts of Avatar: The Last Airbender and Cowboy Bebop moving me tremendously.

Concerning Japanese culture: I like how varied and progressive it appears on the surface, though as I understand it many of the country's citizens are quite conservative.
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: Ribbons on February 28, 2011, 06:03:04 AM
Quote from: spacial on February 26, 2011, 03:43:02 PM
I've watched 3 episodes of Wandering Son and tend to agree.

Do you read the manga? The anime sucks so much compared to the manga, no offense. Not to say that the anime is bad though. 
The anime is making a slow paced documentary series into a romance anime, and it's changed a bunch of things.

HM is made to be slow. It's a slow paced series about life, like a documentary. People may think it's boring, but I've read every chapter a good five or so times already (and there are over 90).
Title: Re: Why are alot of the trans here anime freaks/japanese obsessed?
Post by: spacial on February 28, 2011, 08:39:05 AM
I read the subtitles, if that's what you mean.

I can see the attraction of anmie. It has a beautiful style. I also understand that some is much faster paced than others.

In the case of this series, if I'm going to be honest, (with you as much as with myself), I keep feeling I've some old git looking on the lives of very young people. It isn't that I'm some old, wise one who wants to hand down wisdom from on high. I don't have any experience of these lives. None are in any way like mine or any I know. In that respect, it's really intresting.

But it's a bit like watching programs aimed at toddlers. They are cute as hell. Warming. Fun and so on. But they are aimed at that age group. I feel out of place.

Does that make any sense to you?