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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: Thatman on March 15, 2011, 12:29:35 PM

Poll
Question: How many TG/TS/CD/IS people currently or have had problems with self-harm?
Option 1: Currently votes: 18
Option 2: In the Past, but not since beginning transition votes: 16
Option 3: Never votes: 13
Option 4: In the Past, but have had some problems since beginning transition votes: 8
Option 5: Have had thoughts but never acted on them votes: 15
Title: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Thatman on March 15, 2011, 12:29:35 PM
Just wanted to run a quick poll to see how many of my fellow transgender people have had problems with self-mutilation. Thank you in advance for your votes. I know that this is a problem that I myself have battled for years. I am trying to get some numbers on this because I want to get an idea of the percentage out there in order to show the need for awareness for the youth of our community.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: tekla on March 15, 2011, 12:44:02 PM
The problem with any self-selective poll is that those who do are going to outnumber the replies of those who don't regardless of the reality.  So my guess is you're going to hear a lot of stories about SM, by people who do/have done it, and precious little from those who don't.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Janet_Girl on March 15, 2011, 12:52:47 PM
Everyday.  Some days are worst than others.  Especially when another girl goes in for SRS.

I know I always whine about, but this is the one thing that causes me the most pain.  I could care less about anything else.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Shang on March 15, 2011, 01:13:34 PM
I don't self-harm and never had the wish to do so.  I focus all of my negative-stuff into trying to do something positive, like playing with the dog or go for a walk.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Heath on March 15, 2011, 01:23:28 PM
I've definitely struggled with this before.  The last time I did it was October 2010.  I started T in January this year.  I'm hoping I never do it again because I end up feeling really stupid the next day for doing it.   :-\
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Korlee on March 15, 2011, 01:33:13 PM
I've had very strong desires and broken things around me on those anger, etc fits.  Along with the constant of staring at the flaws, desires, or just my wrists thinking about it.  However I am never taken the physical step in self harm.  My moods just tend to hurt good friends or those around me.  I suppose it is cowardice in taking it out on others and not being willing to keep it to myself.   My latest annoyance with it all on the fact even after SRS it will still be fake in a way I stayed in bed a week refusing to pretty much do anything.  Just a funk I got out of again.

I've actually stopped going to my support group because they are older peeps with careers that have had SRS or at the very least an education so options are there.  Plus just like here.. everyone leaves out the things you'd like to know.  When you ask about getting a job peeps just say -keep trying- or some other damn BS.  That is crap!  Details are everything and just trying doesn't get you ->-bleeped-<- or I'd have a damn job by now.  Optimistic as hell all of them on how the world views us now.  I think they live in a damn bubble because the world still seems pretty hostile to me.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: SnailPace on March 15, 2011, 01:37:35 PM
I did in high school but I didn't know why... now I do.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Nathan. on March 15, 2011, 01:38:12 PM
I picked "In the Past, but not since beginning transition" as thats pretty much true i've had a few slip ups but probably less then 5 since I came out. I've started cutting when I was 14 but self harmed before then, when I was angry or upset i'd punch myself or a wall but that was kinda rare and I didn't think anything of it at the time.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Thatman on March 15, 2011, 02:20:38 PM
I really appreciate everyone answering the polls and sharing your thoughts, feelings and stories. I myself have struggled for about the last 15 years with self-harm, basically the same as most of you. A lot of hitting walls etc., and I cut for many years starting at about 13, I can say that I haven't cut in over a year now, (i started my transition and T 9 months ago). But I have struggled still with the thoughts about it, usually when my dysphoria really kicks in. And like someone else had stated the feeling that even after SRS I will somehow still be fake. It wasn't until I really started getting into the state of mind that I was ready to transition that I could coincide my self-harm with being transgender and denying myself for so long. I want to reach out to the youth in our communities and try to help them. Unfortunately self-harm often goes hand in hand with suicide attempts and even in a lot of cases self-harm has unintended fatal consequences. I know that I have been blessed, intervention always reached me just in time. But some of our brothers and sisters out there haven't been so lucky, and may not be in the future. Thank you again for all of your support and sharing.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: atheris on March 15, 2011, 02:41:21 PM
Several times I've made sincere efforts to end my life. Now, I'm fully transitioned and post-op, but so many difficulties over so many years do not just disappear overnight. Many problems remain unresolved, and substance abuse continues to be a serious problem.

I know help is available for substance abuse. I'm just not interested.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: JessicaR on March 15, 2011, 03:44:35 PM
 I had to pick "thought about but never acted"

  I did try to castrate myself once but it I can't say that I really wanted to harm myself... just "correct" things.  I was desperate because I thought I would never be able to have GRS.

   I fought with suicide, however, from age 14 to quite recently. I came frighteningly close three times but never actually tried.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: N.Chaos on March 15, 2011, 03:48:59 PM
Picked the fourth option. It's been a while since I've tried to actively off myself, but the thought has crossed my mind on and off over the past year.
I've done some incredibly stupid ->-bleeped-<- in my life, though, and it'd take up entirely too much space to put it all down.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Dominick_81 on March 15, 2011, 11:18:32 PM
I started cutting myself when I was about 16... I'm 29. I still struggle with the urges all the time. I try to ignore the urges, but each time I ignore it and something else happens and so on, I come to the point where I break down and have to cut to make what I'm feeling inside go away, whether it be pain, anger or whatever. I try all the time not to cut. But I do have my slip ups.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Lee on March 16, 2011, 12:29:30 AM
I started cutting early in college and continued for a few years.  It took a few tries, but I finally stopped that about three years ago.  I still feel the urge to do it on occasion, but the more steps I take towards transitioning and the more male I look to myself, the less often this happens.  As Snail put it, I had no idea why I felt that way until recently. 
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Troy on March 16, 2011, 12:49:10 AM
A couple of years ago I would self harm quite a bit. Don't know if it's becuase of transgender issues or my biolar. But I noticed that since I've started transitioning, when people call me Troy I'm happy. My posture gets a little straighter and I feel prideful. I actually like myself.

Troy
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Yakshini on March 16, 2011, 02:07:07 AM
I've been suffering from self harm for a very long time. I was diagnosed with severe clinical depression in high school, and during my junior year of high school I dealt with the longest, most severe depressive episode of my life. Coincidentally, this episode was right before my coming out as trans, but the episode was not because of my being trans.
I would cut and burn myself on a daily basis to such a degree that most of you probably wouldn't believe the number of cuts I made. On a different support message board I explained how often I hurt myself and was met by such disbelief that I was attacked by other self-harmers for "lying".
When I started having sex, it became impossible for me to hide any injuries I made and was forced to quit. Even since coming out, I have had a few breakdowns that resulted in me cutting myself again but these are few and far between.
I have also suffered from Dermatillomania since I was ten. That means I compulsively pick at my skin, which could be considered self harm. I will search for any blemish on my body, whether it be a freckle or a pimple (particularly my face), and pick and tear at my skin until I am left with sores all over my body. I have probably permanently disfigured my face because of this.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: BrandonJames on March 16, 2011, 04:20:04 AM
I havent acted out but my thoughts are another thing altogether. it was real bad middle school through high school until i moved out of my moms house. it was so bad that I was hospitalized for 72 hours.

what happened was i refused to sign a paper from my doctor saying that I wouldnt: harm myself or others, or think of harming myself..... I think i staired at the doctor for 2 min after he read that off to me. told him that I would sign that I wouldnt hurt others. but couldnt sign that I wouldnt  think of hurting myself....my mom was sitting next to me she thought I was just being a drama teen. after I was admited she went around telling everyone that I was suicidle and that I had been hospitalized for it. Alex came down to see me and cried and cried while i explained what happened. my mom is evil and trouble.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Donnie B. on March 16, 2011, 09:44:17 AM
During last year, when my severe depression flared up again (it's been going on off and on for my entire life), I started self-harming, and have only in the past year been able to cut back slightly on it using excuses like how I don't want to explain to my mother why I have 20+ scars on my upper arms (I already have one-two scars right now).

I also have suicidal thoughts pretty frequently sometimes, which I've been too scared to tell others and get help because it's been made clear to me that any sign of that = long-term hospitalization, which is one of my strongest fears since hospitals, if I stay there for a long time, are worse-than-death horrific for me.

Edit: Actually, since I was such enough of a weirdo as to not check over my facts, I am actually getting help now for my severe depression, which rocks. Hooray for my no-sleep brain for getting stuff wrong! That, and I haven't had suicidal thoughts for about two months now thanks to that help.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Jeh on March 16, 2011, 09:13:53 PM
I've been hospitalized for depression and suicidality. I have bipolar disorder, and when I was first diagnosed it wasn't under control and I was close to suicide a few times. It's been more than a year since any of that has bothered me though.

A few years ago I had a problem with cutting my stomach and thighs, but it's been years since I've cut and I really think I won't ever do it again. I don't want the scars.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Liam K on March 16, 2011, 10:31:35 PM
As a child, I used to hit my head against walls.  I'm not sure that that had anything to do with gender issues, though.  But as a teenager, I was definitely engaged in some amount of self-harm.  I always had to be careful not to leave marks, though, because I was a swimmer and so there was very little of my body that I could hide.  I used to bite myself, methodically pull out large patches of body hairs, pick at my skin, and carve small, deep marks into my skin.  Once I stopped swimming, I could stop being so careful, and I did engage in some more serious cutting at that point.  I had pretty much stopped once I started social transition, but about six or seven months ago I went through a really rough patch relating to physical transition and having to stop hormones for a couple of months, and started cutting again.  I've stopped again, though, and have not had any strong desires to start again, which is good.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: kyril on March 16, 2011, 11:16:42 PM
Depends how you define "transition," but I haven't self-harmed since starting T. I have had some thoughts of suicide and self-harm - the last 6 weeks or so I was experimenting with a biweekly dosing schedule (I'd been weekly since I started) and this past weekend in the days before I was due for my shot I started getting brain fog, emotional instability, and self-harming thoughts. It was actually kind of a shock because the feeling had become so unfamiliar. It was like a flashback to when I was twelve and all of a sudden I started losing myself.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Ryan on March 17, 2011, 01:07:10 PM
I was a regular self harmer between the ages of 14 - 18.
I tried to quit so many times and always relapsed soon after. I transitioned and I just sort of stopping doing it. I still come close every now and again, but I can't remember the last time I actually did it.

I am however, far more likely to get angry and punch something as a form of self harm and release.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: gilligan on March 20, 2011, 05:43:28 PM
I started when I cutting when I was 11, and it will be 10 years ago the end of August. I know that statistics say that both men and women self-harm in equal proportions, but when I think about myself cutting I always think of it as a feminine, teenage thing to do. Then I get mad at myself for doing it so I end up doing it again. It really is a vicious cycle. I cut, then I get mad at myself for doing such, so I end up cutting again. I try not to, but it is SO HARD. Nonetheless, I need to stop.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: spenceroar on March 20, 2011, 07:55:33 PM
I began self harming when I was around 13, and stopped when I was 18.
At first it was a coping strategy, something that took my mind off the emotional pain and transformed it into something I could understand better: physical pain.
I was seeing psychiastrists and other mental health professionals to learn how to cope with my emotional pain better, and for the most part it didn't work.
What helped ultimately was starting to transition, which was when I was 18. After I had begun my physical transition, I no longer felt the need to replace emotional pain with physical pain. And when I felt the urge to cut, I used excercise as another means of "pain".
I'm proud to say I haven't cut in 6 years.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Padma on March 21, 2011, 04:36:53 AM
I don't know whether you count this, but I do - when I was in my mid-teens, I was anorexic (6'2" and weighing 105 pounds at one point) and it was partly tied up with body image and not wanting to grow up/out. For a completely unrelated reason, I got put on steroids for 2 months when I was 17, and that made me put on loads of weight, and my eating stabilised after that (I just started getting stoned instead...)
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: Gabby on March 21, 2011, 05:23:36 AM
Eating disorders count clearly.

For me there was more to my episode, looking back it was also my body telling me you're not that 16 stone war machine you aspire too, at 18 I went down at 5' 10 to 8stone 8lb through not eating period, and was passing as a girl constantly without knowing, people told me though.  Looking back that eating disorder was my body rebelling against masculinization, but I actually like some of the viper in me, and it's worked out pretty good.  I've lived as a man until my mid thirties and it's a part of my personality I needed to be him but he can't take me any further.

I'd blame a complete lack of support and prejudice from loved ones, but I think this is all going to work out well.
Title: Re: Self-Harm in the TG/TS/CD/IS community
Post by: JohnAlex on March 21, 2011, 05:43:12 PM
I selected  "Had thoughts but never acted on them."

I've definitely always had thoughts, still do.  but I think it's my absolute zero pain tolerance that never let me act on the thoughts.  Instead I'll just burn stuff like paper.  just to watch stuff burn.  it's kinda calming for me.